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I find it rather boring to always look at the old guard against the old guard in HW (do you remember when Tyson was forced forward instead of all this luring? :-D), what would you guys say about a match-up against James Toney Vs. Sultan Ibragimov?
I think it would be a cracker of a fight but could not predict a result.
You?
James Toney in decent shape = UD win.
Ibragimov is pretty crappy so Toney by KO.
Toney would beat him, and it would be a very bad move to make the fight, he's not big enough to give Toney trouble imo, he is at best as good as Vassily was, unlikely even that good. I guess if Toney thought the same thing and came in at 470 it could be different.. Who cares about Toney though, I won't until he loses some damn weight.. What a joke, he's probably just going to fade away now, although he has all the potential to beat anyone if he just dropped 20 pounds.
That supposed to be him in your avatar as a Gorilla or somethin?Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
lol yea.. It was in some article about the Rahman fight I think.
its fukin freaky lookin man.
Toney is a legend, who the legend is doing 6-7 times more than the actual figure. Toney has actually did nothing the last 15 years. He would lose against any real top 15 HW. A professionel athlethe looking like him - please let him be broke.
i personally think Sultan would knock toney the fuck out
I thought that gorilla was a picture of Toney?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
I think Sultan would win also but I would like to see Toney and Sam Peter than toney would never fight again
This might be true. Sam Peter hits a lot harder than Toney!Quote:
Originally Posted by coog
If Toney trains, he wins a decision easy.
Toney doesn't want Peter now, or ever IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by coog
Ibrigamov's pretty quick and he goes to the body well. I think he's a tougher fight than Peter for Toney simply because of his speed and activity. Sam's made for a guy like James, Sam has no jab, throws wide, slow punches, has no sense of distance, no sense of timing, no skills whatsoever. Rahman outworked Toney cause of his jab, which is incomparably better than Peter's jab, I can't see Sam doing the same. Sam has a chin and a punch, that's it IMO. Maybe he'd land and KO James but he could also make James look very good. And no, I didn't jump off the bandwagon after the Wlad fight, I was never on it.
I agree with you about Peter making Toney look good, but Peter hits harder than rock, and he's going to go for broke, unlike Rock. Toney would get hit, and it would hurt. Unless Peter was the recognized champ, I don't think it would be wise for Toney to take the chance with Peter, and I think Toney would feel the same. But I'm not Toney so I could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
sultan ko 9 :P
Sultan is 1 of the todays best heavyweight i like . . . Sultan goign in a good way and he Knock the goffi Whitaker very well . . . He has a good power and he is 1 of the best Russian boxers now i know . . .
Sultan VS Toney would be a hard fight . . . By UD is Toney better and in KO would be Sultan in front i think . . .
I agree with Jax.
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IBRAGIMOV WOULD KO TONEY IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE FIGHT :D :D :D
Sultan is an exciting boxer to watch (unlike most heavyweights).
He is agressive as hell, fights more like a middleweight.
Currect fat ass Toney would get KO'd by Sultan in mid rounds!
Ibragimov is a bum and not even in James's class. Toney by easy UD or stoppage. Ibragimov is slowwwwwwwwwww
I would say Ibragimov by TKO 7th round.In the fights I have seen of his he really puts punches together and has some really good power.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Anyone talkin actually seen the Ibragimov brothers? They are dreadful, just horrible. A notch above club fighters at best, I'm dead serious. They suck.
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
WHAT?!?!?!
ive never seen timor, but sultan is the REAL DEAL
How is Sultan the Real Deal? Who did he beat, just Lance Whitaker? ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
I'd back toney, but wouldn't mind being proved wrong, for the benefit of getting to see a great fight.
he DEMOLISHED lance whitakerQuote:
Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
Sultan knocked Whitaker out in 8 AND WHO else did he beat?Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
toney is fat and out of shape and 37. i go with sultan by mid UD, cause its very tough to KO or TKO toney.
Because weebles wobble, but they don't fall down. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by K2-Promotion