Guaranteed at 154.
Fight would eclipse ANY purse in history.
And I'm rooting for Money in this one.
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Guaranteed at 154.
Fight would eclipse ANY purse in history.
And I'm rooting for Money in this one.
It won't happen, and you actually think it would eclipse Floyd vs Mannyif it did? How?
It would definitely eclipse Floyd v Manny money wise, but it definitely WON'T happen in September.
It will not happen as Floyd would get his ass kicked.
Floyd would be more interested in a rematch against Berto.
I'll bet.
Floyd wont fight this year.
If he could, he would but just can not get someone to write him a big fat cheque to fight a mediocre fighter for his 50th fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
GGG is not a money maker.
He's not known outside the sport.
Manny = $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Floyd = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
GGG = $
GGG is so scared of ward it's embarrassing.
Ward is stepping up and taking the risks that GGG wish he could.
Floyd vs garcia only if garcia beats brook in summer..
The only way this fight would make money is if GGG would blast out Canelo and starts talking crap and selling himself to make even half the amount Manny and Floyd made.
"GGG is so scared of ward it's embarrassing."
STOP PRESS! Golovkin is afraid of ghosts!!
"Ward is stepping up and taking the risks that GGG wish he could."
Stepping up and taking the risks? This is a piss take right? He hasn't fought at LHW Yet.
It must be a boring life being a cheerleader for someone who fights once every 4 years! :rolleyes:
Ward has done jack shit. Take on Kov and then you can say what you are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
100% if Floyd has a comeback fight it will be against Danny Garcia. How long can he get away with this blatant ducking of Amir Khan?
Wait a minute, Khan's a MW isn't he? How can Floyd be ducking him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
a. He's retired
b. He fights at WW.
Just because "IN YOUR OPINION", Floyd is coming back in September, that means he's blatantly ducking Khan!
If your post was in some way sarcasm or half in jest, I apologise if I didn't get it. 😄
Saunders has now openly challenged Golovkin. Golovkin is not taking it seriously and says its nobody but Alvarez next. If Floyd has intentions he may disrupt that by fighting the Alvarez/Khan winner but Golovkin would need to erode fundamentally for Floyd to consider it after a lay-off. Just like Leonard/Hagler.
Gennady Golovkin says he would rather face Saul Alvarez not Billy Joe Saunders | Boxing News | Sky Sports
If anyone "erodes", it's Floyd. Not GGG. GGG would have a clear advantage over Floyd after a long layoff.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Really? I couldn't see it even coming close. Floyd vs Manny had unprecedented hype, surpassed the numbers anyone thought it might do, and most importantly left a lot of casual fans(who made the fight massive) turned off. That fight did around 5 million buys, Floyds next fight with Berto didn't even do 1, and I don't think Golovkin has done close to 1 in any fight yet. I get that just about any hardcore boxing fan would want to see this fight at all costs, but that wouldn't carry it enough. The only way it would happen is if you are right, and even then I can't see it, Floyd is to old now and was always to small.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I hope Floyd stays retired.
Until I see it confirmed that he is definitely making a comeback I can't be arsed to speculate about who he will/wont/may fight.
Floyd Mayweather is definitely going to fight 3G in the fall this year after 3G destroyed Canelo
i think Broner is more likely to fight him lol. Things seem to be heating up between them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NhLW62xIM8
Nothing to see here, ain't no black on black crime going down, selling a fight is what they are doing...badlyQuote:
Originally Posted by jabvargas24
Does he think people will fall for this staged nonsense? Hope it falls flat on their face.
Floyd vs Broner would reek of a set up/sparring session, would be a shame if that came off.
Firstly, it doesn't matter that GGG did a million buys(which isn't a bad number imo) its Floyd they pay to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingReally? I couldn't see it even coming close. Floyd vs Manny had unprecedented hype, surpassed the numbers anyone thought it might do, and most importantly left a lot of casual fans(who made the fight massive) turned off. That fight did around 5 million buys, Floyds next fight with Berto didn't even do 1, and I don't think Golovkin has done close to 1 in any fight yet. I get that just about any hardcore boxing fan would want to see this fight at all costs, but that wouldn't carry it enough. The only way it would happen is if you are right, and even then I can't see it, Floyd is to old now and was always to small.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
For example , I don't know what Manny's best PPV numbers are and he has fought some massive names, but I bet they don't come close to 4 million, probably not 2 million, but with the Floyd factor, BOOM! over 4 million PPV buys!
However, I agree, this fight never comes off. The longer Floyd is out of the ring, the rustier he gets and the closer he gets to 40.
It's almost ridiculous to think it could happen. He doesn't need it and he sure ain't gonna do it cos "the fans want it" and I really don't blame it.
All these people saying it could or should happen, if they were in Floyd's shoes they wouldn't take it, and if they did take it, that's why they're not in Floyd's shoes.😄
Well it would matter, even if I wasn't way off, GGG's highest selling PPV was 150 thousand:p If people only paid to see Floyd and his drawing power didn't take a hit from the Pacquiao fight, he would have done more than 500K against Berto, surely? Pacquiao also has topped a million buys a bunch, against Marquez twice, Mosley, Margarito, and Cotto. Nobody else aside from Floyd has even come all that close to those numbers since De La Hoya. Those are the facts, sonny!
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Originally Posted by MasterWard has done jack shit. Take on Kov and then you can say what you are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
I like your use of "jack shit" here. Very appropriate. ;D
However.... "Ward has done jack shit" infers that he has done something.
The correct terminology is "Ward hasn't done jack shit".
..... and with that we conclude the longest period of time I've thought about Andre Ward in years.
well your facts kinda back up what I'm saying. Manny fights Massive names in boxing like Marquez, Mosley and Cotto and does a Million, he fights Floyd and does 4 and a half Million.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
forgive me, I don't know what Canelo v Cotto did, but that is a yardstick for what GGG v Cotto would've done. the fact he only did 500k against Berto is also proof that it would sell big. why? well only half a million watched that , so the other 3 and a half million or so that watched Manny refused to buy because they didn't feel it was competitive, a fight with GGG would be competitive.
it's all a bit of a moot point , because I don't feel it will ever happen, but these are just my thoughts, "Sonny!" ;D;)
I'm starting to think Ross might make more sense between the two of you:p Neither Manny or Floyd had ever sold anything close to what they did together was my point, it was WELL over double what either had done, wasn't only Manny seeing a big increase. You think the difference in buys between Pacquiao and Berto was only due to how competitive people thought it would be, over name recognition and overall appeal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerawell your facts kinda back up what I'm saying. Manny fights Massive names in boxing like Marquez, Mosley and Cotto and does a Million, he fights Floyd and does 4 and a half Million.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
forgive me, I don't know what Canelo v Cotto did, but that is a yardstick for what GGG v Cotto would've done. the fact he only did 500k against Berto is also proof that it would sell big. why? well only half a million watched that , so the other 3 and a half million or so that watched Manny refused to buy because they didn't feel it was competitive, a fight with GGG would be competitive.
it's all a bit of a moot point , because I don't feel it will ever happen, but these are just my thoughts, "Sonny!" ;D;)
Hey, now you have crossed a line , Sonny!!!;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingI'm starting to think Ross might make more sense between the two of you:p Neither Manny or Floyd had ever sold anything close to what they did together was my point, it was WELL over double what either had done, wasn't only Manny seeing a big increase. You think the difference in buys between Pacquiao and Berto was only due to how competitive people thought it would be, over name recognition and overall appeal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerawell your facts kinda back up what I'm saying. Manny fights Massive names in boxing like Marquez, Mosley and Cotto and does a Million, he fights Floyd and does 4 and a half Million.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
forgive me, I don't know what Canelo v Cotto did, but that is a yardstick for what GGG v Cotto would've done. the fact he only did 500k against Berto is also proof that it would sell big. why? well only half a million watched that , so the other 3 and a half million or so that watched Manny refused to buy because they didn't feel it was competitive, a fight with GGG would be competitive.
it's all a bit of a moot point , because I don't feel it will ever happen, but these are just my thoughts, "Sonny!" ;D;)
I ain't gonna argue any more about something neither me or you believe is actually gonna happen , so we can't be proved right or wrong.
There's not enough dough in the world for Floyd to get in a ring with Golovkin.
The Floyd-Manny numbers wont be beat for decades - until new massive stars emerge. You had the two biggest stars in the sport, the only two that could single-handedly sell a million PPV's in one of the most anticipated fights in history.
Yeah, they said the same thing about Leonard after he sat out 3 years and approached Hagler.Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepwalkerIf anyone "erodes", it's Floyd. Not GGG. GGG would have a clear advantage over Floyd after a long layoff.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Well to be fair Mayweather has been fighting longer and is older then GGG evrything is against Mayweather in that fight in GGG favor. Lenoard and Hagler were close to the same age at least and they were both pretty young still when the fight came off as well they were not old.