Blackwell in Medically-Induced Coma After Eubank Jr. Loss - Boxing News
He had a small brain bleed after taking a lot of shots. I hope he gets through this.
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Blackwell in Medically-Induced Coma After Eubank Jr. Loss - Boxing News
He had a small brain bleed after taking a lot of shots. I hope he gets through this.
That's terrible.
I hope so too.
They were straight on the case so hopefully he will be ok.
Pretty sure thats it for his boxing now though and that will hurt more than the loss.
Its difficult to take because Eubank Sr is filmed talking about something like this happening in the press conference and even between rounds! I think Hennessey and Locket need to look at themselves because they allowed him to go out without a hope in hell of winning and tiring while Eubank was still strong and throwing combinations with reckless abandon.
It could have been prevented. Blackwell could be sat at home now feeling sorry for himself but able to box again and not in intensive care in a coma!
There are three scenarios that will happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
1) He will die.
2) He will have permanent damage (Eg Michael Watson - Gerald McClellan)
3) He will make good recovery.
We all hope it's #3.
But one thing we do know for sure, is that his fighting career is over. I thought it was a great fight. I for one, don't think the fight should have been stopped. Blackwell was never badly rocked. He was never down and even though he was taken big shots, his body posture, his legs, his balance and his whole bodily demeanour was that of a strong fighter who was in the fight.
So when Eubank was trying to do that Joe Calzaghe, Oscar De La Hoya thing, of trying to con the ref into stopping the fight, by blitzing Blackwell with a flurry of lots of half arsed arm punches, to get the ref to stop it. I can see why the ref did not buy it. Blackwell is a tough, tough, tough kid. Hope he pulls through.
Nick showed heart and took tremendous punches. Eubank was excellent and the fight was a good showdown for the British title.
No one is to blame for the injury it was stopped at the right time.
Denilson your talking rubbsh! Those werent arm punches, Eubank was loading up, they were landing Blackwells head was snapping back. Usually in fights like this people say "thats the type of fight that shortens a career". Well it was allowed to go on for too long and now Blackwell is paying the price because some people "thought" he was fine. The evidence was there, repeatedly taking good shot after good shot, too far behind to win on pounts, Eubank too strong to hurt by a tiring fighter. Unfortunately some peoples blood lust to see their moneys worth and poor judgement has led to Blackwell being in a coma.
To late to blame the damage has been done Blackwell is extremely tough,! boxing is and always has
been dangerous but it's safer now than it has ever been, with medical help at ringside thank god theses
people were there last night.
Chaps you NO when you see fighters getting hit to much and Blackwell was,! he needed to be pulled
out about round 7 in my opinion, we see fights week in week out thankfully theses injury's are few and
far between, hopefully Nick Blackwell makes a good recovery I love boxing and none of us on here want
to see anybody hurt do we.
Remember how Eubank must be feeling in reality he must be thinking the same thing happened with
his father and Michael Watson SHIT.
Yeah, hindsight is wonderful. Always someone to blame after the fact.
We're just as much to blame for loving/supporting a "sport" that is about smashing peoples head in.
Ref could have told blackwell corner to step it up a round before?
Or a standing 8 count?
Eubank was superb.
Such a shame on the aftermath.
Listening to a debate on Radio 5 Live, and they are saying that Eubank Sr knew Blackwell was being hurt in the eighth and told his son to go to the body to try and save him punishment. This is fine, but Eubank Sr was urging that earlier in the fight too.
This is why they shouldnt put just anyone in as a ref, because you would of seen him maimed or killed. Some refs are there to please the commission and the crowd first,they are not there for the fighters well being as a no1 priority.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200There are three scenarios that will happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
1) He will die.
2) He will have permanent damage (Eg Michael Watson - Gerald McClellan)
3) He will make good recovery.
We all hope it's #3.
But one thing we do know for sure, is that his fighting career is over. I thought it was a great fight. I for one, don't think the fight should have been stopped. Blackwell was never badly rocked. He was never down and even though he was taken big shots, his body posture, his legs, his balance and his whole bodily demeanour was that of a strong fighter who was in the fight.
So when Eubank was trying to do that Joe Calzaghe, Oscar De La Hoya thing, of trying to con the ref into stopping the fight, by blitzing Blackwell with a flurry of lots of half arsed arm punches, to get the ref to stop it. I can see why the ref did not buy it. Blackwell is a tough, tough, tough kid. Hope he pulls through.
Aside from a 99 to 1 shot, he couldnt of won that fight from where he was.
My thoughts & prayers are with Nick Blackwell & family. Hoping he makes a complete recovery. Always saddens me to see one of our boxing family seriously hurt
Dont know if you guys who havent got facebook can see this:
I cant find a full length one elsewhere. But this video shows Eubank Snr in the 5th round telling his son the ref isnt doing his job and he needs to finish this with body shots not head shots as Blackwell is getting hurt and there is no point to that. In the 5th! That should really tell you all something when the fight went on into the 10th round.
http://www.facebook.com/realboxinggu...1138897133427/
I think that we have blamed everyone possible in the aftermath of this, the ref, the promotors, JR, the corner, ourselves
It really does draw comparrisons to Bob Dylans 'Who killed Davey Moore' its well worth a watch even if you don't like him just for the similarities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IssR_J0QWr4
Quote:
Who killed Davey Moore?
Why an' what's the reason for?
"Not I", said the referee
"Don't point your finger at me
I could've stopped it in the eighth
An' maybe kept him from his fate
But the crowd would've booed, I'm sure
At not gettin' their money's worth
It's too bad that he had to go
But there was a pressure on me too, you know
It wasn't me that made him fall
No, you can't blame me at all"
Who killed Davey Moore?
Why an' what's the reason for?
"Not us", said the angry crowd
Whose screams filled the arena loud
"It's too bad he died that night
But we just like to see a fight
We didn't mean for him to meet his death
We just meant to see some sweat
There ain't nothing wrong in that
It wasn't us that made him fall
No, you can't blame us at all"
Who killed Davey Moore?
Why an' what's the reason for?
"Not me", said his manager
Puffing on a big cigar
"It's hard to say, it's hard to tell
I always thought that he was well
It's too bad for his wife an' kids he's dead
But if he was sick he should've said
It wasn't me that made him fall
No, you can't blame me at all"
Who killed Davey Moore
Why an' what's the reason for?
"Not me", says the gambling man
With his ticket stub still in his hand
"My wasn't me that knocked him down
My hands never touched him none
I didn't commit no ugly sin
Anyway, I put money on him to win
It wasn't me that made him fall
No, you can't blame me at all"
Who killed Davey Moore
Why an' what's the reason for?
"Not me", says the boxing writer
Pounding print on his old typewriter
Sayin', "Boxing ain't to blame
There's just as much danger in a football game"
Sayin', "Fist fighting is here to stay
It's just the old American way
It wasn't me that made him fall
No, you can't blame me at all"
Who killed Davey Moore?
Why an' what's the reason for?
"Not me", says the man whose fists
Laid him low in a cloud of mist
Who came here from Cuba's door
Where boxing ain't allowed no more
"I hit him, I hit him, yes, it's true
But that's what I am paid to do
Don't say 'murder,' don't say 'kill'
It was destiny, it was God's will"
Who killed Davey Moore
Why an' what's the reason for?
Read more: Bob Dylan - Who Killed Davey Moore? Lyrics | MetroLyrics
I'm sorry but I think this is getting stupid. Not only is the ref to blame , but Sr. Is some sort of Messiah!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
I've even read said somewhere that Eubank Sr. Saved Blackwell's life ffs!
Are you telling me that the fight should've been stopped at the end of the 5th? I'm pretty certain that Blackwell had some success and stunned Jr. After the 5th. (e.g.When Jr. Was busy chopsing off to Saunders like the fucking prick he is!)
All Sr. Was saying to his fighter was his usual mix of clichés and horseshit between rounds, and then standing back to admire his work for 10 seconds. Anything he said of any relevance is purely coincidental , HE IS NOT THE MESSIAH!
Finally, if Sr. Is some sort of soothsayer, does that mean Jr. Is a brutal murderer because he didn't want to listen to the Great one and virtually told him to Shut up one time?
Even between the last 2 rounds, you could hear Ronnie Davis saying to Jr. "Do it your way", trying to calm Jr. Down because he was getting fucked off with what the Messiah was saying.
It's funny how these things don't get quoted after the event, but then again they're not sensational enough are they?
Eubank only said go to the body because there was no way Blackwell was going to get knocked out. Nick's chin was solid.
The only time there could have been a stoppage was when Junior had Blackwell cornered and thew a lot of punches but they were being blocked. If the fight was stopped then then there would have been outrage.
In hindsight it could have been stopped then but 99 out of 100 it would have been ok to carry on.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/39/396b6...89331c8f95.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Eubank sr looks the part.
I would love his wardrobe.
I still think saunders is better and the rematch will make both men the best paydays of their career.
This Eubank trying to save Blackwell shit is beyond pathetic. He was giving Jr the "take it out the ref's hands" speech. He was telling him to focus on the body from the start.
They reckon he will be pulled out of the coma tomorrow, I just hope everything is OK when he comes round
Eubank Jr has a habit for headhunting instead of banging the drum, and Sr was on his case earlier in the fight too. For me, its typical of the media trying to think of an angle so they can bash boxing and the ref.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Quote attributed to Eubank
"But if he does to stop it and you keep on beating him like this – one, he is getting hurt. "And two, it is you who will have to make a decision. Why has the referee not stopped the fight? I don't know why. "But maybe you should not leave it to the referee. "So you are not going to take him out to the face, you are going to take him out to the body." -
Eubank,Haters will hate ;D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI'm sorry but I think this is getting stupid. Not only is the ref to blame , but Sr. Is some sort of Messiah!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
I've even read said somewhere that Eubank Sr. Saved Blackwell's life ffs!
Are you telling me that the fight should've been stopped at the end of the 5th? I'm pretty certain that Blackwell had some success and stunned Jr. After the 5th. (e.g.When Jr. Was busy chopsing off to Saunders like the fucking prick he is!)
All Sr. Was saying to his fighter was his usual mix of clichés and horseshit between rounds, and then standing back to admire his work for 10 seconds. Anything he said of any relevance is purely coincidental , HE IS NOT THE MESSIAH!
Finally, if Sr. Is some sort of soothsayer, does that mean Jr. Is a brutal murderer because he didn't want to listen to the Great one and virtually told him to Shut up one time?
Even between the last 2 rounds, you could hear Ronnie Davis saying to Jr. "Do it your way", trying to calm Jr. Down because he was getting fucked off with what the Messiah was saying.
It's funny how these things don't get quoted after the event, but then again they're not sensational enough are they?
Seriously though, Refs leave a lot to be desired. I've always been with Ron Lipton 100% regarding many refs out there and why they are there.Its is not No1 for the fighters sake as should be the no 1.
Yet here we see Eubank Snr being hated on cause he is there first for the fighters sake. No messiah shit,no ego shit, simply fighters safety through experience and logic, thats all. The video to me shows that there is a wide gap in peoples awareness refs included and Refs need to be taught signs and never fear backlash from a crowd of blood lusters because that does occur still. I recon Refs need to be accountable and liable through whoever they work for its them who should cover all insurance, not a fighter.
There it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Have not watched the fight but hope Blackwell rebounds to live a quality life. Yet another tragic example that while we sit behind keyboards and yell at the tube, there truly are no "bums" climbing into the ring regardless of ability level. They all get punched in the skull, and the damage is real.
Doubtful he will ever fight again though,real shame that and that is the real question, is it avoidable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
If Blackwell had been ok afterwards, would people be making a big deal out of the fight not being stopped? That's all you can really ask as far as how it was handled. It was a routine mismatch with the loser being to tough for his own good, complete par for the course in boxing. If the fight had been stopped far sooner, Blackwell might have wound up in a similar way a couple of fights down the line, still partially a result of the damage he took in this one. It would be nice if there were medical advances that allowed people to detect disposition for risk of brain injuries in the future, barring that about all you can suggest is that people not get punched in the head for a living.
I hope not as much as that sucks to say, imagine your entire career choice and way of life shut off over night. And that's the plus side of what we know could also be crippling or life ending injury. Cut and dry, no matter 1st round or 12th, fighters get hit and the inevitable result is damage. You inflict it and/or you avoid it. That's something we know at the door. It cannot be avoided to different degrees but key is lessening and being pro active. The last thing I want is to watch boxing go the way of the current NFL with the flag football injury-lawsuit conscience truckload of rules and penalties. But it starts at competent officiating and accountability. Even more so with the more and more obvious mismatches we buy into. Guys jumping not only class but weight division. Heavy favorites blowing weight and being allowed to pay some opponent an extra few thousand to "go along". Seriously more in favor of rehydration clauses now. Stateside we have States without athletic commissions who have to "borrow" officials for events and places where a Joe Mesi..with bleeding on the brain..can be allowed to fight. Or Oscar Larios going down to good ol' Mexico to do same. It doesn't always stop at Refs feet either, that's a bit of a cop out as I've watched commission heads literally leap over the top rope to stop obvious back street beatings the ref seemed to be tolerating all too much. That's a catch 22 yes but if you see your employee doing a shit job and pull him off the floor..so be it. Corners should also be allowed to again wave the flag or toss a towel instead of having it thrown out. And when you shout "one more round or else" fookin mean it! Maybe I'm getting old but we're not fookin cavemen. Don't get me wrong I love a great brawl and the primal yell of a fight but when we know its a showcase going in, we're all responsible. Having a granite beard or being so game is not necessarily a compliment so much as it is a constant to prove with some guys. Running on and in the wrong placeQuote:
Originally Posted by AndreDoubtful he will ever fight again though,real shame that and that is the real question, is it avoidable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Get well Mr. Blackwell!
His career should be stopped.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreDoubtful he will ever fight again though,real shame that and that is the real question, is it avoidable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
He takes way to much damage.
He already lost to saunders and eubank jr so no point in continuing career as a journeyman.
To me, that's typical Sr. Talking in riddles. But if you want to believe that he has some 6th sense, that's Up to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreThere it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
So , in summary, in your book he's saying "don't bother with head, because you'll hurt him, but give his ribs a good hiding and finish him off!!! Yeah, loads of empathy!
Hope he makes a speedy recovery...was a brutal fight. I guess you can hear what Eubank Snr said how you want to hear it...but i guess asking his son to take him out to the body rather than the face does imply he did not want Blackwell to sustain any more damage to the head
Primo: It's probably at the limit of empathy on what you would get standing in a professional boxing ring.
It's clear to me he's urging Jr to take it out of the refs hands. In other words - knock him the fuck out.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Two rounds later old Eubank told Jr - "get this guy out of here, I don't want it going the distance"
The way Eubank was playing around in the last round I think he took pitty on Blackwell. The lull in the action gave the ref the opportunity to have Blacwell looked at. Maybe one more uppercut and it could have been worse.
The Eubank family strike again. Junior's management team need to employ somebody to do all his motorway driving for him for at least as long as he's in professional boxing.
Taking credit for this compassion narrative has to rank up there with the most disgusting things ever in boxing. Disgrace.
For a moderator you dont half lower the tone in here sometimes with your biased views. Are you BJS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
You will hopefully never know what its like to punch someone in to a coma to qualify your disturbed opinion.
If I ever punched someone into a coma I wouldn't hold a press conference to piggyback the coverage it has got.
Since when were mods not allowed an opinion? I'll say what I like when I like.