Panama Papers and GOOD OL' BOYS
David Cameron and all other kinds it all varies and variations of international leaders including president of China and United Arab Emirates and Iceland etcetera all of these people who call themselves our leaders and want to put us in jail if we have two drinks and drive drunk or if we make a mistake on a tax return by $220 and want to give us time in jail. All these people call themselves our leaders who lead the shyster Clinton who is responsible for Isis and who is responsible for terrorists now in Libya using her private email account to transfer top secret governmental information all of these shysters and charlatans who never have any price to pay to get nothing more than a little slap on the wrist all these pieces of crap want to put us in jail and want to keep us in line and crack down hard on the General Public and tell us what to do and tell us how to live.
These people are not my leaders.
They couldn't lead me across the street.
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David Cameron and all other kinds it all varies and variations of international leaders including president of China and United Arab Emirates and Iceland etcetera all of these people who call themselves our leaders and want to put us in jail if we have two drinks and drive drunk or if we make a mistake on a tax return by $220 and want to give us time in jail. All these people call themselves our leaders who lead the shyster Clinton who is responsible for Isis and who is responsible for terrorists now in Libya using her private email account to transfer top secret governmental information all of these shysters and charlatans who never have any price to pay to get nothing more than a little slap on the wrist all these pieces of crap want to put us in jail and want to keep us in line and crack down hard on the General Public and tell us what to do and tell us how to live.
These people are not my leaders.
They couldn't lead me across the street.
Omg, I agree with the vagisil queen crumpet.
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All US Secretaries of State have used private email servers since there's been email including Condy Rice and Colin Powell. US foreign policy is a criminal enterprise, you don't want a lot of what goes on on any official record or you could be looking at charges and indictments down the line.
The people caught by the Panama thing are a bunch of amateurs.
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All US Secretaries of State have used private email servers since there's been email including Condy Rice and Colin Powell. US foreign policy is a criminal enterprise, you don't want a lot of what goes on on any official record or you could be looking at charges and indictments down the line.
The people caught by the Panama thing are a bunch of amateurs.
The sole authority speaks.
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David Cameron and all other kinds it all varies and variations of international leaders including president of China and United Arab Emirates and Iceland etcetera all of these people who call themselves our leaders and want to put us in jail if we have two drinks and drive drunk or if we make a mistake on a tax return by $220 and want to give us time in jail. All these people call themselves our leaders who lead the shyster Clinton who is responsible for Isis and who is responsible for terrorists now in Libya using her private email account to transfer top secret governmental information all of these shysters and charlatans who never have any price to pay to get nothing more than a little slap on the wrist all these pieces of crap want to put us in jail and want to keep us in line and crack down hard on the General Public and tell us what to do and tell us how to live.
These people are not my leaders.
They couldn't lead me across the street.
My conspiracy side thinks her emails would show Clinton led in the Libyan Khadafi stuff. But then again it could also go into Isis etc as you stated.
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So are you suggesting that the previous Western policy of supporting undemocratic dictators, murderers and strongmen, and keeping them in power against the wishes of their people, was the right way to go?
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All US Secretaries of State have used private email servers since there's been email including Condy Rice and Colin Powell. US foreign policy is a criminal enterprise, you don't want a lot of what goes on on any official record or you could be looking at charges and indictments down the line.
The people caught by the Panama thing are a bunch of amateurs.
The sole authority speaks.
Just wait until all the American names with Panama dealings come out.
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US states also are tax havens even worse than Cayman Islands. There should never be any laws that allow tax evasion anyway. They are there because the politicians are in on it. Cunts the lot of them.
The prime minister of Iceland has resigned - the first major casualty of the Panama Papers leaks which have shed an embarrassing spotlight on the world of offshore finance.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35966412
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A huge leak of documents has lifted the lid on how the rich and powerful use tax havens to hide their wealth. The files were leaked from one of the world's most secretive companies, a Panamanian law firm called Mossack Fonseca.
What are the Panama Papers?
The files show how Mossack Fonseca clients were able to launder money, dodge sanctions and avoid tax.
In one case, the company offered an American millionaire fake ownership records to hide money from the authorities. This is in direct breach of international regulations designed to stop money laundering and tax evasion.
It is the biggest leak in history, dwarfing the data released by the Wikileaks organisation in 2010. For context, if the amount of data released by Wikileaks was equivalent to the population of San Francisco, the amount of data released in the Panama Papers is the equivalent to that of India.
You can find our special report on the revelations here.
Who is in the papers?
There are links to 12 current or former heads of state in the data, including dictators accused of looting their own countries.
More than 60 relatives and associates of heads of state and other politicians are also implicated.
The files also reveal a suspected billion-dollar money laundering ring involving close associates of Russia's President, Vladimir Putin.
Also mentioned are the brother-in-law of China's President Xi Jinping; Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko; Argentina President Mauricio Macri; the late father of UK Prime Minister David Cameron and three of the four children of Pakistan's Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.
The documents show that Iceland's Prime Minister, Sigmundur Gunnlaugsson, had an undeclared interest linked to his wife's wealth. He is now facing calls for his resignation.
The scandal also touches football's world governing body, Fifa.
Part of the documents suggest that a key member of Fifa's ethics committee, Uruguayan lawyer Juan Pedro Damiani, and his firm provided legal assistance for at least seven offshore companies linked to a former Fifa vice-president arrested last May as part of the US inquiry into football corruption.
How do tax havens work?
Although there are legitimate ways of using tax havens, most of what has been going on is about hiding the true owners of money, the origin of the money and avoiding paying tax on the money.
You can read more on how tax havens work here.
Some of the main allegations centre on the creation of shell companies, that have the outward appearance of being legitimate businesses, but are just empty shells. They do nothing but manage money, while hiding who owns it.
One of the media partners involved in the investigation, McClatchy, has more on how shell companies work in this video.
What do those involved have to say?
Mossack Fonseca says it has operated beyond reproach for 40 years and never been accused or charged with criminal wrong-doing.
Mr Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the reports were down to "journalists and members of other organisations actively trying to discredit Putin and this country's leadership". Publication of the leaks may be down to "former employees of the State Department, the CIA, other security services," he said.
In an interview with a Swedish television channel, Mr Gunnlaugsson said his business affairs were above board and broke off the interview.
Fifa said it is now investigating Mr Damiani, who told Reuters on Sunday that he broke off relations with the Fifa member under investigation as soon as the latter had been accused of corruption.
Who leaked the Panama Papers?
The 11.5m documents were obtained by the German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung and shared with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ).
The ICIJ then worked with journalists from 107 media organisations in 76 countries, including UK newspaper the Guardian, to analyse the documents over a year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-35954224
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Oi, Switzerland, China, Hongkong, and now Panama, when does Belize, Cayman islands, Singapore? just give it a few years.
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All US Secretaries of State have used private email servers since there's been email including Condy Rice and Colin Powell. US foreign policy is a criminal enterprise, you don't want a lot of what goes on on any official record or you could be looking at charges and indictments down the line.
The people caught by the Panama thing are a bunch of amateurs.
The sole authority speaks.
Just wait until all the American names with Panama dealings come out.
Ok Kirk, I'll wait. Hmmmm hmmmm.
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I think it's funny when people believe there are two parties. Working people are slaves in our Nation no matter who's in office. A vote for one is a vote for the other.
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Hillary CREATED Isis. There were no terrorists under Col. Moammar.
Look at Libya now. Look at Iraq. What TREMENDOUS US foreign policy at work.
Yeah but Hillary has a degree in slanderology, Lieonomics and a professor of amnesiology.
She can slander about the lie she forgot she told....that's a serious politician, yo 'B'.
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Hillary CREATED Isis. There were no terrorists under Col. Moammar.
Look at Libya now. Look at Iraq. What TREMENDOUS US foreign policy at work.
Yeah but Hillary has a degree in slanderology, Lieonomics and a professor of amnesiology.
She can slander about the lie she forgot she told....that's a serious politician, yo 'B'.
Word, the Hillary getting beat last six out of seven.
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David Cameron admits he profited from father's Panama offshore trust. He is a cunt!
PM sold stake in Blairmore investment fund, which featured in Panama Papers, for £31,500 four months before entering No 10
Where does David Cameron’s money come from?
Banks told to declare links to Mossack Fonseca by next week
David Cameron admits he profited from father's Panama offshore trust | News | The Guardian
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walrus
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Kirkland Laing
All US Secretaries of State have used private email servers since there's been email including Condy Rice and Colin Powell. US foreign policy is a criminal enterprise, you don't want a lot of what goes on on any official record or you could be looking at charges and indictments down the line.
The people caught by the Panama thing are a bunch of amateurs.
The sole authority speaks.
Just wait until all the American names with Panama dealings come out.
Ok Kirk, I'll wait. Hmmmm hmmmm.
Wow, groundbreaking huh Kirk.
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Perhaps we have all become too cynical. Why should we be suspicious of people who hide money deep within multiple shell companies on a tax-haven island with the transparency of a lead-lined coffin? It’s like being suspicious of your husband just because he’s hidden a second mobile phone in a box of Maltesers in his gym bag, wrapped in an old dust sheet, in the car, in the space where the spare wheel should be.
This scandal suggests some complex element in the British psyche that knows this kind of thing is happening but can’t bear to be confronted with the knowledge. We know Cameron is filthy rich – he’s wearing a two-grand suit – but his sin is that he has forced us to think about it. Cameron has struggled to deal with the revelations partly because he has no idea what normal is. I mean, none of us are certain, really, but let’s not forget that Dave once did a photo op where he tried to eat a hotdog with a knife and fork. The phrase “something like £30,000” is one the man in the street can only tolerate being used so casually if it’s describing the weekly wage of some journeyman left-back sex-case that his club is after.
One thing we’ve learned is that rich people aren’t even rational: they can afford to live in the Cayman Islands and leave their money here. Instead, they make their money go on holiday so they can live in perpetual rain, like the way the dwarves in the Snow White movie kept all the diamonds and lived in the forest.
Of course, there will be many in his parliamentary party who would be glad for Cameron to go, but not like this. If he goes because benefiting in some way from offshore funds is unacceptable, then literally none of them can replace him and the party will have to be led by a picture of a bulldog for a while.
A standard rhetorical pose on the left is that austerity is not economic but ideological. Is it an ideology? Isn’t that giving a bit too much credibility to a philosophy that amounts to: “I think we should take everybody else’s stuff”? Describing austerity as an ideology suggests that people like Osborne and Boris have a misguided faith in free-market principles that is simply too pure for this cruel world, when they’re actually two drinks away from robbing a charity box in a pub.
I’ll admit that I watched Iain Duncan Smith on Andrew Marr after he resigned, and for the briefest moment, thought I could see a certain passion, albeit misguided. I suppose I had a glimpse of how he and his supporters see him – as an almost heroic figure. But if a serial killer sees himself as being sent to rid the streets of prostitutes, we don’t sit there and say: “Ah, yes, I suppose he is a cleansing flame wielded by The Almighty, if you look at it from his point of view.”
Work assessments for people with Parkinson’s and cerebral palsy isn’t a different take on morality, it’s immorality, and it doesn’t particularly matter what the rationalisation is. I sometimes wonder if austerity might be less of an ideology and more of a pathology.
One of the reasons the Panama scandal is so damaging is that Conservatism has positioned itself as moralist: there’s a lot of talk about what’s right and fair. In practice, this rightness and fairness is only seen as being something deserved by “hardworking families”, who “speak English”. So there’s an implicit rejection of the foundation of morality: universality. When you look at it like that, Conservatives raging against human rights is actually completely consistent. They don’t believe that everybody deserves what’s right and fair, just those who conform to their idea of normal. And let’s not forget they have their ideas of normal forged in the public school system, a bloody crucible of hierarchical sodomy.
Of course, they totally fuck over hardworking families who speak English as well, because once you’ve abandoned the key principle of morality, you’ve actually adopted a mindset quite close to that of a sociopath. I mean, we think of them all as jolly millionaire mal vivants, but they’re much more dreadful than that. I’m ashamed to say that, at my worst, I think maybe hardworking, English-speaking families who voted for Cameron deserve what they get, because they chose to believe a serial killer when he told them that they were his favourite.
In the old days, courtiers aped the style of the monarch. Modern politicians aspire to be like today’s rulers – our corporate overlords. If you spend a sizeable chunk of your career making sure corporations can take their money offshore, and hope to work for those companies later in your career with some title like Non-Executive Director Of Thanks For All The Favours, and if corporations actively court political influence through massive lobbying operations, then you will end up with a certain level of symbiosis.
Also, let’s not forget that the lobbyists’ job is to mimic politicians, and the politicians are trying to promote themselves and their agendas to business. It’s like Mad Men if there were no creatives and everybody worked in sales. Imagine the horrifying occasions where they bond: drunken lunches; awards ceremonies; a black mass in the Cotswolds. Imagine being a senior Tory politician on an all-expenses-paid trip in a five-star hotel. You ring down for an extra pillow, then curse yourself for forgetting that in such exclusive establishments “extra pillow” is a codeword for prostitute. Now you are going to have two prostitutes, and only one pillow to smother them with.
In the end, as a senior politician having spent a career in what is the PR wing of corporatism, offshore tax arrangements might well be one of the few things you know anything about. I mean that quite literally. Politics is full of people who don’t know the price of a pint of milk but do understand the incorporation of a shell company. Why wouldn’t they have a trust in Panama?
Corporations may hire celebrity spokesmodels, personify themselves as mascots, and in the US, demand that they have the constitutional rights of people, but they are not people. They are blueprints for making money, and they don’t address their social obligations because they don’t care. I suspect before long we’ll see corporations donating to space exploration in the hope that they’ll be able to take advantage of a zero per cent tax rate by screwing their “Company Headquarters” plaques to the surface of the moon. In a decade, it’ll be covered with so much tessellating brass, it’ll shimmer like a distant glitterball through the gaps in the roofs of their employees’ shacks.
I should perhaps come clean and tell you that the worst holiday I’ve ever had was in the British Virgin Islands. There is so much money sloshing around that I saw seabirds stranded on the shores, collected by volunteers and taken to wildlife shelters, where skilled vets carefully removed the wads of cash clogging up their feathers. I saw a heron have enough roubles pulled from its wings to buy a decent family hatchback. I remember a pelican, its bill pouch stuffed to bursting, crumpled euros and untraceable yen spilling from its mouth like a stripper’s thong. In a restaurant, for dessert I was served a battered suitcase brimming over with 200m euros’ worth of bearer shares. When I told the waiter that I’d ordered the creme brûlée, he gave a dry chuckle and said that he must have misheard. He let me keep the suitcase saying that there was plenty more where that came from.
At night, we gathered on a starlit veranda to watch the arrival of the cash. It’s one of nature’s most epic sights. First we heard the grunting, faint at first but then louder, until by just the accents alone we could almost tell the Russian from the Australian from the French. The sea began to foam, the frenzied activity just offshore. And then they landed. Huge creatures, some as massive as an alpha walrus. Fat, and breathing heavily, they heaved themselves on to the shore. Hundreds, if not thousands. Lawyers, drug lords, politicians, prime ministers, mafia members, businessmen, peers of the realm, sex offenders and a cellist. Their bodies warm and fleshy. It had been a good summer.
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This mass of quivering corporate meat quickly made its way towards the dunes. Dragging themselves forward. Thinking only of themselves. Smaller, weaker animals were crushed, suffocated. Then in a hysterical free-for-all using hands, feet, snouts, they dig. Each of these secretive creatures digs its own filthy hole. And then lumbering into position, lower their “vent” into the crater. It’s then that they began laying. Firing into the golden sand wads of unmarked bills, fake invoices, untraceable companies, gold bullion. It takes but a moment, the animals moving quickly so as not to be exposed on the shore for any longer than necessary. Then, with feverish activity from their hindquarters, the hole is backfilled. Without so much as a fingerprint left in the sand they shuffle, belly-first back towards the sea.
They raise their heads to the moon and roar. It is a primeval sound, and one by one they all join in. Soon the waves crashing on to the beach are drowned out by the beasts. There is a final sight of them before they are drawn back into the black tide, anonymous, and free. This is something that will happen forever, which scientists now estimate might be as little as 30 or 40 years.
Politicians don’t know the price of milk – but they do know how to set up a shell company | Opinion | The Guardian
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Until the link, I was thinking: wow, master is a master....:rolleyes:
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The media has really picked and chosen the data that was released and the initial and false Putin association was obviously gibberish. Rather than get me angry about tax havens (which are of course completely wrong) it has me shaking my head at the Western media and their agenda. They are a duplicitous and hypocritical bunch.
The world is so wrong and in so many ways. You have war criminal tax avoiders in charge and not only are they fiddling the books but they are selling off state assets and destroying everything good and making laws to protect themselves. Swiss bank tax evasion sweetheart deals anyone? Chilcott? How many decades? Blair is old already.The media sweeps it under the rug. The BBC is appalling and you would expect it no other way. Bunch of gravy train train lackeys.
Prince William is a dome headed muppet, but oh Bama, come and sip wine whilst my low paid servants kneel. And this is news? We sit outside the Taj Mahal and this gets more coverage than protests of tens of thousands? What an absurd and hypocritical lot the media henchman are.
Goebbels must be chortling to himself up on high.
