Are "migrants" the same as "refugees" the same as...?

What a sham that is going on. Does anybody really think that all these millions and millions and millions of so-called refugees are from Syria escaping the Assad regime? That's really funny because I never met a Syrian with black skin and when I see these boats with five or six hundred so called refugees packed onto them leaving from the beaches of Libya they sure looked to be non-syrian to me !!!!

How the wool is being pulled over the eyes of the leaders of the European Union unless they have an ulterior motive and they're just playing dumb

@Gandalf

They need to stop calling it "Refugee" crisis and they need to stop blaming Syria. From the looks of the refugees the media need to start mentioing Eritrea and Sudan and Somalia and Chad and Libya and Algeria and Egypt and Yemen and Djibouti and Iraq.

And we need to start asking the question why should people who happen to be having a very difficult life in Yemen for example or in Eritrea or Algeria or Egypt have a right and the benefit of the doubt that they are telling the truth ....to have automatic residence in Europe if they can make it onto the bandwagon to the shores of Italy?

If you take a look at the people from all those countries I just mentioned maybe a more accurate description of this supposed crisis is the Voluntary Muslim Immigrant crisis

@Oswald Mosely

Nobody has noticed they are black?

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Nobody has noticed they are black?

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Me and you and many of our friends notice. But its being whitewashed under ONE VAGUE UMBRELLA as "Syrian refugees fleeing the Assad regime".

No they are not one of the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kyjTHs6Rts

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@Oswald Mosely

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you can't be serious that it is a logical conclusion that just because I am against the criteria being used which seems very random with so many loopholes that is beyond laughable and that I therefore criticized the procedures or let's say lack thereof that are in effect means that therefore what I said was fascist in nature. Concluding that about what I said is actually perhaps just as presumptuous as what I said.

Also that kind of knee jerk judgement of anyone who questions the process just goes to show how quickly you are labeled if you don't go along with the program.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kyjTHs6Rts

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Excellent video.

Excellent.

The entire world has gone mental with this bullshit Social Justice horsecrap and here's the PROOF it's horsecrap....


Anyone asking Arab nations to take in these "immigrants"? Anyone complaining about how the Saudis aren't taking anyone in from Syria? Anyone complaining how the UAE isn't taking anyone in? Kuwait? Qatar? Any of those fucking shithole countries who get their wealth not from work they do but from what their lucky asses sit on top of?


Fuck them! Fuck anyone who is crying about these fighting age men who are running like the shit cowards they are from their own countries (and a lot of them ain't Syrian fyi)!

If there's a tyrant in my country killing my people I'm fucking fighting not running away and then demanding my needs be met by someone living in another culture.

It's weaponized victimhood and I'm sick to death of it! Same goes for ANYONE here in the United States thinking that we need to apologize for how good we have it!


Now I will say this, Hispanics, Mexicans, typically they are coming across the boarder to WORK, they aren't looking for hand outs, they aren't running away from their nation which America is paying to fucking rebuild. So in my eyes all immigrants aren't equal, I'll take a few of the illegal immigrants from Mexico, I don't like that they won't come legally, but if they are working and benefitting society and not fucking shit up fine......fucking "Syrian refugees" can go get fucked, bottom line. They aren't nice, they aren't going to assimilate, they ARE going to wage Jihad.....sorry I've got no room in my country for 1 single motherfucker like that!

agreed.

Weaponized --- precisely. The minute you question it or disagree with it.

Kenya Begins Building Wall Along Somali Border


Fucking racist ass Kenyans building a wall to keep out "terrorists". You know what they means by "terrorists" right? MUSLIMS! Not all Muslims are part of al-Shabab or Al-Qaeda! Some of these Muslims just want to get into Kenya and those damned racists in Kenya are now building a fucking racist wall to keep out Muslims!


IT'S RACIST!



......I'm kidding, it's only racist when America does it ;D

Trouble is economic migrants jump on the refugee band wagon, it seems the UK is the land of milk
and honey ! and the main problem is who is the genuine because we don't really no do we.
I wonder how long before we stop taking in people that are a burden to our country, many young North African men heading our way not family's just economic migrants looking for a free lunch.

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Trouble is economic migrants jump on the refugee band wagon, it seems the UK is the land of milk
and honey ! and the main problem is who is the genuine because we don't really no do we.
I wonder how long before we stop taking in people that are a burden to our country, many young North African men heading our way not family's just economic migrants looking for a free lunch.

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Woah there Welsh Hitler ;)


Funniest part is that the Saudi's have millions of air conditioned tents (typically used for pilgrimages to Mecca) just lying around and they've taken in......0 refugees....0 of their Muslim brothers and sisters who are in dire need of help.


Why the FUCK is the west expected to house these people? It is going to destroy our nations......oh....I see why we're expected to do it now, never mind :rolleyes:

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Trouble is economic migrants jump on the refugee band wagon, it seems the UK is the land of milk
and honey ! and the main problem is who is the genuine because we don't really no do we.
I wonder how long before we stop taking in people that are a burden to our country, many young North African men heading our way not family's just economic migrants looking for a free lunch.

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Woah there Welsh Hitler ;)


Funniest part is that the Saudi's have millions of air conditioned tents (typically used for pilgrimages to Mecca) just lying around and they've taken in......0 refugees....0 of their Muslim brothers and sisters who are in dire need of help.


Why the FUCK is the west expected to house these people? It is going to destroy our nations......oh....I see why we're expected to do it now, never mind :rolleyes:

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Lyle they are the wrong type of Musilm mate simple,! I asked this same question and was told that
Adolf Bando got a nice ring to it.;D

I think the Saudi Muslims and the Syrian Muslims do not get on.

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I think the Saudi Muslims and the Syrian Muslims do not get on.

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Who DO Muslims "get on" with? Not Christians, certainly not Jews, not Atheists, not Sikhs, not Hindus....they can't even "get on" with other Muslims.

If you've been married 9 times and they all have ended in divorce....maybe the problem is YOU.


If the Muslims can't "get on" with anyone, then well perhaps they should look in the mirror......or maybe that too is against their religion and unacceptable to Allah Peace be Upon him.

The house of saud causes many issues with that Wahhabis brand of Islam I've read some on it and it's very intense

One of the many pc issues I have is with our American press referring to illegal aliens as undocumented aliens or migrants when did this come about and why do we allow it

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The house of saud causes many issues with that Wahhabis brand of Islam I've read some on it and it's very intense

One of the many pc issues I have is with our American press referring to illegal aliens as undocumented aliens or migrants when did this come about and why do we allow it

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The press in general is filled to the brim with bleeding hearts. The press wouldn't DARE call these "refugees" out on who they really are and why? you may ask.......well the answer is the very same as why those professional teleprompter readers support #blacklivesmatter....



They don't live anywhere near ground zero of those issues/events. These lily white reporters want to be seen as down for the struggle, but they don't want to be bothered in the gated communities they live in......why gates? Well to keep out the filthy immigrants and street urchins of course......oh but they're so, SO down for the struggle faced by "undocumented immigrants" #nopersonisillegal and thugs like Mike Brown #blacklivesmatter.


The news, the politicians, everyone in power or with "agency" whatever the fuck SJW's mean by that in the West today (bar a few rebels) doesn't live near the trouble they are causing, they think/assume they are doing right, they assume they are helping, but they can't know, they don't witness what happens on the streets.


If I was in a country that had an idiot for President.....that President would look a lot like Obama #worsethanCarter

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The house of saud causes many issues with that Wahhabis brand of Islam I've read some on it and it's very intense

One of the many pc issues I have is with our American press referring to illegal aliens as undocumented aliens or migrants when did this come about and why do we allow it

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The press wouldn't DARE call these "refugees" out on who they really are and why? you may ask.......well the answer is the very same as why those professional teleprompter readers support #blacklivesmatter....



They don't live anywhere near ground zero of those issues/events. These lily white reporters want to be seen as down for the struggle, but they don't want to be bothered in the gated communities they live in......why gates? Well to keep out the filthy immigrants and street urchins of course......oh but they're so, SO down for the struggle faced by "undocumented immigrants" #nopersonisillegal and thugs like Mike Brown #blacklivesmatter.


The news, the politicians, everyone in power or with "agency" whatever the fuck SJW's mean by that in the West today (bar a few rebels) doesn't live near the trouble they are causing, they think/assume they are doing right, they assume they are helping, but they can't know, they don't witness what happens on the streets.


If I was in a country that had an idiot for President.....that President would look a lot like Obama #worsethanCarter

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Why isn't there a Life of Brian Islam style? It is time the borders were closed and satire makes a welcome return.

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Why isn't there a Life of Brian Islam style? It is time the borders were closed and satire makes a welcome return.

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Because all the actors would be beheaded and every Cinema would be burnt to the ground mate them Muslims have NO sense of humour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42jpuXJPk0w

Sweden yooooh best not to say anything ;)

watch 1:40 hahahahhaaha

I'll say whatever the fuck i want.

Sorry but swedes are fucking pussies to allow that shit to go on. What the fuck was all that assault for against the camera crews? Out and out assault.

Swedes are pussies. You need about 10,000 new york city cops. That shit would be cleaned up in 2 weeks tops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSJY0c8QWw

I'm just going to add this in here as well....



100% of all immigrants legal or illegal should learn the language of the nation they have immigrated to, and so if they move to the United States they should learn English.


Why?


Well for a number of reasons: they'll be able to understand what authority figures are saying so if they are stopped by the police they can understand what the policeman is saying, they can better understand judges/legal issues, they can speak with their neighbors who are citizens, learning the language is part of assimilation, they will be able to communicate with other citizens outside their neighborhoods, it will help them get jobs, it will NOT rob them of their culture, and it is a gracious thing to do. If I was to move to France I'd learn French, if I was to move to Japan I'd learn Japanese.....why can't an immigrant learn English? It's in their best interests to do so if they plan on living here.

I disagree with that one. For instance, English teachers, especially in their first few years out here, teach around 30 hours a week and are expected to use their native tongue. Where would they find the energy or time to learn a second language? And why should they? Granted it makes more sense if you are long term and actually manage to get some free time, but statistically you are unlikely to ever master the language. It is probably different for migrant workers who don't have such specialised work, but on that basis I disagree with you there Lyle.

It is in the next generation that the integration can and should be much more complete as the child would be bilingual and typically the child will have a parent who is a local and so will be fully immersed into the culture. I know myself how difficult learning a language is and to be honest I tend to give up half way through each semester as I have too much work to do. I could take a few years out and take a course, but that is a heavy investment to make.

The problem the West has is that most immigrants marry among themselves and you end up with no go areas that are like little countries within countries. There is no cultural integration and the cultures are too different. I agree that something needs to be done about that. I would hate to see that here. But English teachers come and go and the ones that stay are typically those who end up married. They are all educated, checked, and had jobs lined up prior to arriving. Little welfare dependency or any of those things. You cannot expect everyone to speak Korean, but you should know some basics for the sake of politeness.

Ha! Funking priceless :-)

Racist.

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I disagree with that one. For instance, English teachers, especially in their first few years out here, teach around 30 hours a week and are expected to use their native tongue. Where would they find the energy or time to learn a second language? And why should they? Granted it makes more sense if you are long term and actually manage to get some free time, but statistically you are unlikely to ever master the language. It is probably different for migrant workers who don't have such specialised work, but on that basis I disagree with you there Lyle.

It is in the next generation that the integration can and should be much more complete as the child would be bilingual and typically the child will have a parent who is a local and so will be fully immersed into the culture. I know myself how difficult learning a language is and to be honest I tend to give up half way through each semester as I have too much work to do. I could take a few years out and take a course, but that is a heavy investment to make.

The problem the West has is that most immigrants marry among themselves and you end up with no go areas that are like little countries within countries. There is no cultural integration and the cultures are too different. I agree that something needs to be done about that. I would hate to see that here. But English teachers come and go and the ones that stay are typically those who end up married. They are all educated, checked, and had jobs lined up prior to arriving. Little welfare dependency or any of those things. You cannot expect everyone to speak Korean, but you should know some basics for the sake of politeness.

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Miles, they must learn the language for their own safety and to ensure that they are getting fair treatment in the land they have migrated to. I for one don't wish to see immigrants illegal or otherwise railroaded by authorities, I don't want their rights infringed....granted illegals should be charged for illegally coming here and if they are violent criminals attempting to escape from their homeland they should be extradited back to face punishment for their previous wrongdoings but I don't think they should be shot on sight or anything (unless caught in the act of doing something worthy of being shot on sight).

The only way to guarantee this is for the migrants to learn the language of the land...it's not saying they have to unlearn their native tongue or completely forget their culture, but they have to practice within the "confines" of the laws of that land....I would expect no different if I was the one immigrating.

Bollocks. When in Rome do as the Romans do.

Also teachers are not migrants who crawled ashore looking for handouts but are professional workers who had to qualify for the position through the embassy of the guest country by submitting various academic credentials.

For example....the age of consent in my state (North Carolina) is 16 years old, meanwhile the age of consent in Mexico is 12.

Do you see how assimilation to the culture could be kind of an important thing? Do you see how understanding the language of the land is kind of an important thing? Do you see how following the law of the land is kind of an important thing?

Same with uptight Muslims complaining about miniskirts .....in Europe.

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Same with uptight Muslims complaining about miniskirts .....in Europe.

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And so enter the authoritarian politicians parading as they are helping out the little guy by saying "we have to teach them not to rape"....as if the politicians believe that brown people are incapable of responsibility, they are HUMANS they fucking know right from wrong and they should be treated as such! I highly doubt if I break a rule in the nations where these immigrants have fled from that their leaders will say "This poor white devil doesn't understand or comprehend how we live here, we must teach him".....they'd teach me alright, they'd lop my head off of lash the absolute dog shit out of me and THAT would be the lesson I learn and not some patronizing lecture from some bullshit politician!

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I disagree with that one. For instance, English teachers, especially in their first few years out here, teach around 30 hours a week and are expected to use their native tongue. Where would they find the energy or time to learn a second language? And why should they? Granted it makes more sense if you are long term and actually manage to get some free time, but statistically you are unlikely to ever master the language. It is probably different for migrant workers who don't have such specialised work, but on that basis I disagree with you there Lyle.

It is in the next generation that the integration can and should be much more complete as the child would be bilingual and typically the child will have a parent who is a local and so will be fully immersed into the culture. I know myself how difficult learning a language is and to be honest I tend to give up half way through each semester as I have too much work to do. I could take a few years out and take a course, but that is a heavy investment to make.

The problem the West has is that most immigrants marry among themselves and you end up with no go areas that are like little countries within countries. There is no cultural integration and the cultures are too different. I agree that something needs to be done about that. I would hate to see that here. But English teachers come and go and the ones that stay are typically those who end up married. They are all educated, checked, and had jobs lined up prior to arriving. Little welfare dependency or any of those things. You cannot expect everyone to speak Korean, but you should know some basics for the sake of politeness.

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Miles, they must learn the language for their own safety and to ensure that they are getting fair treatment in the land they have migrated to. I for one don't wish to see immigrants illegal or otherwise railroaded by authorities, I don't want their rights infringed....granted illegals should be charged for illegally coming here and if they are violent criminals attempting to escape from their homeland they should be extradited back to face punishment for their previous wrongdoings but I don't think they should be shot on sight or anything (unless caught in the act of doing something worthy of being shot on sight).

The only way to guarantee this is for the migrants to learn the language of the land...it's not saying they have to unlearn their native tongue or completely forget their culture, but they have to practice within the "confines" of the laws of that land....I would expect no different if I was the one immigrating.

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I guess there are different types of migrant. I just don't think I have much in common with people running to a country illegally, marrying within their own, and then expecting several wives to live on welfare and have lots and lots of children. I don't try to force my way on the local culture. If anything I have moved away from my own culture and embraced this way of thinking as it is just better for the self and is far more sensible than back home. Families, education, work, self discipline, these are things the West seems to have left behind with the don't hurt my feelings and worship thy single Mum's brigade. Men are against all this immigration, it is feminists who are the problem.

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Bollocks. When in Rome do as the Romans do.

Also teachers are not migrants who crawled ashore looking for handouts but are professional workers who had to qualify for the position through the embassy of the guest country by submitting various academic credentials.

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They are still economic migrants though and it would be absurd to expect a short term visa holder to learn a host language. The Romans are learning English too, but I agree that there is a big difference between an illegal immigrant and an educated Western teacher.

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They are still economic migrants though and it would be absurd to expect a short term visa holder to learn a host language. The Romans are learning English too, but I agree that there is a big difference between an illegal immigrant and an educated Western teacher.

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You Brits and your classism...."those plebs needn't bother learning the language" :rolleyes:

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Bollocks. When in Rome do as the Romans do.

Also teachers are not migrants who crawled ashore looking for handouts but are professional workers who had to qualify for the position through the embassy of the guest country by submitting various academic credentials.

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They are still economic migrants though and it would be absurd to expect a short term visa holder to learn a host language. The Romans are learning English too, but I agree that there is a big difference between an illegal immigrant and an educated Western teacher.

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theyre not short term migrants. they are here FOR FUCKING EVER!!!