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Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
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http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-v-murray.html
this is the most work i've ever put into the start of a thread
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
Short fight for AJ. Easy work. Brezeale is terrible. He's out of shape and was going life and death with Amir Mansour in January. He paws his jab and AJ will just throw over the top of it and probably knock him into the stands.
Congratulations to Eddie Hearn though, he's managed to find an unbeaten Heavyweight who is worse than Martin ;D
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
An American Olympian Al Haymon fighter. Makes sense.
Going by the Mansour fight he'll do well to get out the first round.
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Brezeale is probably the highest ranked fighter in the IBF they could get. He's pony and going to get twatted inside 3 rounds. My mum could shoot a right hand over his jab and she's 5 foot nothing with bad knees.
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She is. I'll put in a good word. Im not calling you dad.
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Thanks pal, appreciate it
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
Groves v Murray
This is one I'm looking forward to. I reckon Groves has got the desire back, and I think Murray is tailor made for him . Very good support bout seeing as the main event probably won't last that long.
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Another heavyweight who will be talked up as dangerous at the pre fight press conferences
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
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sanatogen
Another heavyweight who will be talked up as dangerous at the pre fight press conferences
To be fair no one has ever sold a fight on the back of 'look he's horse shit but it's all we could get'
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he cant be total shit, he must be alright to have gotten to the Olympics
and he must have a chin, and he must be capable of landing a few punches
putting his last fight down as a bad start I think it might creep past 3
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
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erics44
Say what you want Joshua and Eddie Hearn but the fact is, this is Johsua's 4th young (30 and under) undefeated fighter he's gonna face in a row. That's tough match making in my book. As with any undefeated fighter, they could be anything, same applies to Brezeale who was an Olympian for the USA in 2012. For a 1st defence I think Brezeale is more than a respectable opponent.
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
Should be an easy fight for AJ, won't last 4 rounds if AJ has his mind right.
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denilson200
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erics44
Say what you want Joshua and Eddie Hearn but the fact is, this is Johsua's 4th young (30 and under) undefeated fighter he's gonna face in a row. That's tough match making in my book. As with any undefeated fighter, they could be anything, same applies to Brezeale who was an Olympian for the USA in 2012. For a 1st defence I think Brezeale is more than a respectable opponent.
He was never going to take on anyone like Wilder or Haye for his first defence was he, it is frustrating because we all think he needs to fight the best in order to be tested.
His power alone will take him through the B tier but you can see why they don't want to throw him in with the elite straight away.
Only problem now is that he is holding a world title so people will be demanding the big names sooner rather than later, also Hearn is going to keep putting him in with unknown fighters with a decent paper record and putting it on PPV purely because Joshua is now a 'name' with the general public and the casual fans.
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
Who says looking like shat over last couple fights doesn't reap rewards :-X Breazele was in the abyss vs Mansour and you can make a case he lost to Kassi as well. Should be a breeze for Joshua if he stays smart though 6'7 with decent pop and having the chips cashed in on you is nothing to take for granted.
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Brezeale has arguably had stiffer competition then Joshua and he's got that Cooney body type. He's not ripped. I doubt he folds like Martin did. I'm a little surprised they made this fight. I was thinking it was going to be Chisora or something.
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Chisora has got the Pulev fight.
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Wankers wanting ppv money for shite.
No wonder they dropped Fury because he embarrasses the crap they are selling to the public.
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IamInuit
Brezeale has arguably had stiffer competition then Joshua and he's got that Cooney body type. He's not ripped. I doubt he folds like Martin did. I'm a little surprised they made this fight. I was thinking it was going to be Chisora or something.
In a round about way it's a little make up payday for Breazele after Wlad losing and Fury stripped saw his fight with Martin cancelled on short notice. Dominic was dropped like a bad habit with shot at top rank gone. Undoubtedly the ibf will magically propel him from #13 to one of its goofy number one and two "not ranked" slots before the bell sounds for this.
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
Dominic Breazeale is okay as an opponent for Anthony Joshua at this time.
Let's not forget, Joshua just fought on April 9. Nice to see champions remaining active!
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IamInuit
Brezeale has arguably had stiffer competition then Joshua and he's got that Cooney body type. He's not ripped. I doubt he folds like Martin did. I'm a little surprised they made this fight. I was thinking it was going to be Chisora or something.
In a round about way it's a little make up payday for Breazele after Wlad losing and Fury stripped saw his fight with Martin cancelled on short notice. Dominic was dropped like a bad habit with shot at top rank gone. Undoubtedly the ibf will magically propel him from #13 to one of its goofy number one and two "not ranked" slots before the bell sounds for this.
That is what I'm not sure of. If one does the lineal thing it appears Mr. Brezeale would be a Joshua optional and not a mandatory which would then have to be the highest ranked available. But if it starts at Fury for refusing to fight Glazkov who then fought Martin for the vacant title then Joshua's next fight would have to be an optional because there was not even a mandatory to inherit. The Ibf had to know that Fury was contractually obligated to rematch Wlad when viewing the final agreement. If they didn’t then they should have stripped Wlad for fighting Fury instead of Glazkov and fired their front office. I think it’s a ballsy move because Joshua could have fought someone from the nose bleeds for an optional while the Ibf has a string of eliminators.
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
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Spicoli
Who says looking like shat over last couple fights doesn't reap rewards :-X Breazele was in the abyss vs Mansour and you can make a case he lost to Kassi as well. Should be a breeze for Joshua if he stays smart though 6'7 with decent pop and having the chips cashed in on you is nothing to take for granted.
I don't think the Kassi fight was that close at all, I was hoping kassi was going to win as he seems like a really interesting guy but I thought that breazeale was a comfortable winner there.. He had a good performance v the cuban fellow who was undfeated at the time but he has since went on to be stopped 3 times in a row :S... He was definently fortunate he cut mansours tongue in half with a punch( I remember him landing a really good one on amir, so there is that at least :S) otherwise he could well have been out of there, he was very nearly ko'd.
I suspect joshua will put him away when mansour just fell a little bit short but to be fair I think that says more about joshua than breazeale, if he blasts him out as we expect then it would be pretty impressive in my opinion.
There is certainly better options out there for joshua to face(maybe even mansour) but they want to get him exposure in america, so a blow out of an undefeated Olympian american with an 88% ko rate will look very good on paper for him.... the truth really isnt important here :S
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Freedom
Dominic Breazeale is okay as an opponent for Anthony Joshua at this time.
Let's not forget, Joshua just fought on April 9. Nice to see champions remaining active!
Agreed.
This is a pretty good opponent considering. Better than Malik Scott. Better than the guys Haye is fighting.
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This is the second PBC fighter in a row. Is AJ a Haymon fighter now???
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Hearn works with all the top American promoters. There's no TV clash for him in the states
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I just watched Brezeale Mansour and although it doesn't look like Joshua has much to worry about Mansour is a decent fighter and a good win
I dunno if I saw it right though but didn't Mansour quit and then raise his arms when the result was being read out?
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Freedom
Dominic Breazeale is okay as an opponent for Anthony Joshua at this time.
Let's not forget, Joshua just fought on April 9. Nice to see champions remaining active!
Yep and in fairness all the real competition is tied up, Wilder Povetkin, Fury Wlad, Takam Parker and even Pulev Chisora. Outside the above and Luis Ortiz Breazeale is more or less as good as anyone else.
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Jimanuel Boogustus
This is the second PBC fighter in a row. Is AJ a Haymon fighter now???
Groves is with a rival promoter but still appears consistently on Eddie's shows does not mean he is in with Matchroom.
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Master
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Jimanuel Boogustus
This is the second PBC fighter in a row. Is AJ a Haymon fighter now???
Groves is with a rival promoter but still appears consistently on Eddie's shows does not mean he is in with Matchroom.
No, far from it. Groves can't stand Hearn , Hearn knows it , but they both know that Groves brings a lot of interest and Money. It's a strictly business relationship and they are both mature enough to put up with each other for their mutual benefit.
Mind you, you wonder why the Sauerlands signed to promote Groves when they never ever have shows with him on?
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Primo Carnera
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Master
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Jimanuel Boogustus
This is the second PBC fighter in a row. Is AJ a Haymon fighter now???
Groves is with a rival promoter but still appears consistently on Eddie's shows does not mean he is in with Matchroom.
No, far from it. Groves can't stand Hearn , Hearn knows it , but they both know that Groves brings a lot of interest and Money. It's a strictly business relationship and they are both mature enough to put up with each other for their mutual benefit.
Mind you, you wonder why the Sauerlands signed to promote Groves when they never ever have shows with him on?
I guess they only do shows in Germany and Groves is bigger here obviously but Groves would have bashed up Abrahams.
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palmerq
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Spicoli
Who says looking like shat over last couple fights doesn't reap rewards :-X Breazele was in the abyss vs Mansour and you can make a case he lost to Kassi as well. Should be a breeze for Joshua if he stays smart though 6'7 with decent pop and having the chips cashed in on you is nothing to take for granted.
I don't think the Kassi fight was that close at all, I was hoping kassi was going to win as he seems like a really interesting guy but I thought that breazeale was a comfortable winner there.. He had a good performance v the cuban fellow who was undfeated at the time but he has since went on to be stopped 3 times in a row :S... He was definently fortunate he cut mansours tongue in half with a punch( I remember him landing a really good one on amir, so there is that at least :S) otherwise he could well have been out of there, he was very nearly ko'd.
I suspect joshua will put him away when mansour just fell a little bit short but to be fair I think that says more about joshua than breazeale, if he blasts him out as we expect then it would be pretty impressive in my opinion.
There is certainly better options out there for joshua to face(maybe even mansour) but they want to get him exposure in america, so a blow out of an undefeated Olympian american with an 88% ko rate will look very good on paper for him.... the truth really isnt important here :S
Oh yeh I think had it a draw but Kassi really put a spotlight on how lumbering and near stone structure slow Breazeale can be. Thought he out hustled and made him look silly with shifting in spots, his inside game is near void but literally a coin flip on cards. Its a very good 'big picture' match up for Joshua..U.S Olympian, undefeated and one with much exposure in lead up.. for Joshua really and if anything Breazeale will be dangerous with the lumber via upperhooks. Blind spots are your friend.
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When John Bray was training Breazale, they trained at a gym in my hometown and my friend went and watched him every day. My friend said he had never seen a pro fighter so lazy in the gym.
Breazale is now trained, or was for his last fight, by Manuel Robles, son of the legendary blind trainer, Chato Robles. He is a top trainer and a class guy (he trains Oscar Valdez and has done the gym work for many fighters that were seen in the ring with 'name' trainers) but I don't think he has much to work with here.
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
Brezeale really struggled with Kassi who is absolute muck. This fight is not going past 1 or 2 rounds. Not too fussed missing this fight to be honest.
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
AJ has just won the title give a Lamb as a sacrifice for a first defense, lot's of Champions have done the
same thing AJ is still work in progress, bit more learning to do would you not say.!;)
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Re: Joshuar v Brezeale June 25th
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Dia bando
AJ has just won the title give a Lamb as a sacrifice for a first defense, lot's of Champions have done the
same thing AJ is still work in progress, bit more learning to do would you not say.!;)
He had an easy route to the title, against a champ who was a worse novice than him and now defending against someone a lot worse than him. This heavyweight division is a joke and Eddie and AJ are laughing their way to the ppv bank.
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Master
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Dia bando
AJ has just won the title give a Lamb as a sacrifice for a first defense, lot's of Champions have done the
same thing AJ is still work in progress, bit more learning to do would you not say.!;)
He had an easy route to the title, against a champ who was a worse novice than him and now defending against someone a lot worse than him. This heavyweight division is a joke and Eddie and AJ are laughing their way to the ppv bank.
Yep, the HW Division is a joke. But can you tell me with any great deal of confidence one HW who you are absolutely certain would beat AJ?
Because if you look at the odds bookies are giving for prospective
match ups, they're pretty much 50-50 for the top guys.
So , yes the division is crap, but it's no more his fault than anyone else really.
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Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Dia bando
AJ has just won the title give a Lamb as a sacrifice for a first defense, lot's of Champions have done the
same thing AJ is still work in progress, bit more learning to do would you not say.!;)
He had an easy route to the title, against a champ who was a worse novice than him and now defending against someone a lot worse than him. This heavyweight division is a joke and Eddie and AJ are laughing their way to the ppv bank.
Yep, the HW Division is a joke. But can you tell me with any great deal of confidence one HW who you are absolutely certain would beat AJ?
Because if you look at the odds bookies are giving for prospective
match ups, they're pretty much 50-50 for the top guys.
So , yes the division is crap, but it's no more his fault than anyone else really.
Fury beat AJ with ease.