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David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
David Haye isn't getting any younger, he should fight one of the top contenders before he begins to fade, rather than wasting time with old Shannon Briggs.
Haye has looked good since coming back, he's ready for a real fight.
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Whilst he has the quality to go in with the big boys he doesn't deserve it he fucked about with his career and now just wants to walk back into the blockbuster fights, fuck him let him rot with his milkmen and butchers.
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
I don't think to many guys would have looked bad against those opponents so it's hard to read, but otherwise I agree. If he's making money to fight these kind of guys then you have to figure he's content with doing that. Definitely won't be easier for him to face Joshua if he doesn't fight anyone good beforehand, and time is definitely not on his side there.
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
Lewis fought briggs nearly 20 years ago.
Nearly 20 years ago!
Briggs is in great condition but this is crazy.
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
I like haye..but I want the joshua/fury/wilder era to prosper...
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imp
I like haye..but I want the joshua/fury/wilder era to prosper...
At the moment I think Haye or Joshua spark Wilder easily, probably all the promoters do also!!!! We will have to sit back and see if the fly tipper versus klit affects that judgement.
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
Who are these supposed top HWs?
Wlad holds title... its because the era has been weak.
Fury has a title and now there are top HWs?
I so want that old man to knock Haye the (F) out.
LETS GO CHAMP!
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SlimTrae
Who are these supposed top HWs?
Wlad holds title... its because the era has been weak.
Fury has a title and now there are top HWs?
I so want that old man to knock Haye the (F) out.
LETS GO CHAMP!
Foreman dominated Briggs.
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
Who are these supposed top HWs?
Wlad holds title... its because the era has been weak.
Fury has a title and now there are top HWs?
I so want that old man to knock Haye the (F) out.
LETS GO CHAMP!
Wilder, Joshua, and Luis Ortiz are the top heavies many would like to see Haye fight.
I too would like to see Briggs KO him but I think it's pretty unlikely. Could happen tho as Briggs hits hard n Haye hasn't had a punch thrown back at him in two fights now.
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Hulk
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
Who are these supposed top HWs?
Wlad holds title... its because the era has been weak.
Fury has a title and now there are top HWs?
I so want that old man to knock Haye the (F) out.
LETS GO CHAMP!
Wilder, Joshua, and Luis Ortiz are the top heavies many would like to see Haye fight.
I too would like to see Briggs KO him but I think it's pretty unlikely. Could happen tho as Briggs hits hard n Haye hasn't had a punch thrown back at him in four years now.
Fixed that for ya
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He took the easy road in his prime, no reason to expect him to take the hard road now. I have a great deal of respect for the support you show your guys across the pond but David has taken advantage of that in a disgusting way. His entire HW portion of his career has been the easiest possible path to the most money. He has not earned the wealth you bestowed him.
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
Haye is ridiculous and so are his fans.
Getting excited over his last two fights. Be honest would this cobra have got out of the first round with Fury, Klitschko, Wilder, Joshua, Parker etc? I doubt it.
Haye is in this just for the money obviously and I suppose fair play to him. But it does grate listening to idiots who think he could beat Fury. If he really thought that himself he had two chances already and wouldnt be fighting such shit opponents now.
Briggs is a godsend for him. Promotes himself, slow, old and unfit and most importantly a ranking.
There are not many more fighters he would risk it against now in the rankings. Molina and Duhaupas have just proved that even good journeymen are still dangerous.
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I'm good with it since it will shut one of these two clowns up. Neither is a legitimate threat or contender right now, in my opinion. Come to think of it, both fighters were similar in that both could punch and looked the part, but fell apart against the best big men (both had stamina issues as well).
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ross
Haye is ridiculous and so are his fans.
Getting excited over his last two fights. Be honest would this cobra have got out of the first round with Fury, Klitschko, Wilder, Joshua, Parker etc? I doubt it.
Haye is in this just for the money obviously and I suppose fair play to him. But it does grate listening to idiots who think he could beat Fury. If he really thought that himself he had two chances already and wouldnt be fighting such shit opponents now.
Briggs is a godsend for him. Promotes himself, slow, old and unfit and most importantly a ranking.
There are not many more fighters he would risk it against now in the rankings. Molina and Duhaupas have just proved that even good journeymen are still dangerous.
I really don't think anyone is getting excited about Haye. There are some who think he would beat Fury, but that's because they don't rate Fury that much. There is a difference.
And I also think that of the names you posted, apart from Joshua, that guy probably would've have got out of the first round , because none of the others are particularly Heavy handed seek and destroy merchants, but it's pretty irrelevant cos the guy was shit.
You're right about all Haye is looking for is the money, and I'm not sure he believes he can be a champion.
He'll fight Briggs in a bullshit hype match up which will be some sort of crappy "semi final eliminator " then he'll have to fight someone with a pulse for a final eliminator and depending on how that goes , we see what happens .
If he wants to be a World Champion and is serious about, I think he should start chasing Wilder rather than Joshua.
But after what I've seen so far, this comeback may not get that far as I'm not sure he has the patience.
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Haye should be ashamed of himself for beating this old joker up. Fair play to Briggs for clowning himself into a payday - I like him - but he's got a one round punchers chance then will get knackered and become a punch bag until he quits.
Ridiculous to think this fossil gave Lennox Lewis a decent fight in the 90s (in very brief patches)
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ross
Haye is ridiculous and so are his fans.
I have said that from the very start and never changed my opinion about him. I think he has some pretty decent talent truth be told, but he has no desire to be the best he only has a desire to not get knocked out and that will only take you so far.
David Haye could have been a lot better than what he is and what he is, is a part time boxer and full time asshole
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
Not sure what people saw. David Haye looked like his skills, speed etc had eroded completely. If that Haye fights Briggs he will get smashed.
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
To put Hayes win in perspective...
Hayes opponent was taken 7 rounds by Briggs opponent.
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IamInuit
Not sure what people saw. David Haye looked like his skills, speed etc had eroded completely. If that Haye fights Briggs he will get smashed.
That would be hilarious!
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
Why all the hate for David Haye?
David has come back from a career threatening and serious injury. He was out of boxing for a number of years so he is taking easy fights back. He is fighting quite regularly and slowly building up momentum.
Briggs is an ideal next opponent because he is a big name, ranked and easy to beat. David Haye will take on the better fighters 2017 but the main thing for him was to test his shoulder, not get injured, fight regularly and win with big crowds. He has done all that and everything is going according to plan.
Haye is in it for the long term, otherwise he could have tried to cash out but Joshua is still a bit green, Fury hates him and will not fight him, Wilder has to fight Povetkin. Realistically Haye could win the other trinket but he is keeping all his options open which is smart.
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
If Haye was smart he wouldnt have blown his money and be here now.
Also, Whyte has just had the same surgery as Haye and is fighting In June this year, not June 2019;D
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ross
If Haye was smart he wouldnt have blown his money and be here now.
Also, Whyte has just had the same surgery as Haye and is fighting In June this year, not June 2019;D
He is not the first fighter to become broke and will not be the last. He is earning a lot now and hope he invests it better this time around.
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
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Master
Why all the hate for David Haye?
David has come back from a career threatening and serious injury. He was out of boxing for a number of years so he is taking easy fights back. He is fighting quite regularly and slowly building up momentum.
Briggs is an ideal next opponent because he is a big name, ranked and easy to beat. David Haye will take on the better fighters 2017 but the main thing for him was to test his shoulder, not get injured, fight regularly and win with big crowds. He has done all that and everything is going according to plan.
Haye is in it for the long term, otherwise he could have tried to cash out but Joshua is still a bit green, Fury hates him and will not fight him, Wilder has to fight Povetkin. Realistically Haye could win the other trinket but he is keeping all his options open which is smart.
This doesn't make sense mate. How do you suggest that he could possibly "Cash Out."? he has no choice but to work his way back and make himself credible. You've even written above reasons why he wouldn't be able to Cash out. He has no Fucking choice!
I like Haye, but people have to understand that all he is doing is earn as much money as he possibly can . It's not about titles, It's not about being the best , it's about earning as much as he can, as quickly as he can . if he can con a few people into thinking he's there for the duration and he's "Quicker, faster.stronger than he's ever been and his Timing is spot on", then more fool them .
I don't have a major problem with it because I'm not putting a single penny his way, and I don't feel mugged off, because I know what I expect , but other people have to realise this.
It's a bit like people feeling robbed when Floyd fought Manny because they thought it would be this amazing fight! It was always going to be what it was and as long as you realise this and don't expect unrealistic shit to happen, it's fine.
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
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Master
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ross
If Haye was smart he wouldnt have blown his money and be here now.
Also, Whyte has just had the same surgery as Haye and is fighting In June this year, not June 2019;D
He is not the first fighter to become broke and will not be the last. He is earning a lot now and hope he invests it better this time around.
I dont think hes earning alot. Hes funding these shows which is why its shit opponents and shit undercard fights and the first one he pulled a few of the fights off. Remember Billy Dib? Had an injury which is why he couldnt fight yet just a few weeks later he had a fight!;D
Apparently there werestill ringside tickets available on whatever site it was that you could buy them from on the afternoon of the fight. Probably gave tickets away or allowed people to move forward because there were alot of empty seats in the back.
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Master
He is not the first fighter to become broke and will not be the last.
Oh but it was SOOOOO much fun watching him go from "I'm going to retire by 30 as champion after beating Wladimir" to "I'm going to have a super fight with Shannon Briggs" at age 35.
He talked so much shit for so fucking long and I'm happy he's broke, I couldn't be more pleased.....seeing Briggs knock him out would actually be the icing on the cake though. Then I will guarantee you there will be a rematch vs Chisora!
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
Like Master don't know why the Haye hate, apart from Ross obviously.
Should fight a top heavyweight? - Who the fuck would that be? Having a Giraffe????
On one side of the divide we have the fly tipper, who appears to be going loopy, versus Klit, who may well be shot and retire before the fight, lets wait and see what happens there.
On the other side of the draw we have Joshua, Haye and Wilder, Now that Lucas Browne is out of it (belly laugh).
Heavyweight boxing now is shit, and as much as I hated Hayes shit show on Saturday, at least it was free and kept some tight bastards on this site happy.
You cannot blame any of them jockeying for a money making position in the dying days of competitive world heavyweight boxing. Sad but true.
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
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Master
Why all the hate for David Haye?
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You aren't looking for an answer, are you?:lolololol::pointlol::rotflmao:
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Can't decide which of the two has Donald Trumped his way into a big payday more??? Because both have done next to nothing in six years and are about five removed from being clowned and tamed by a Klitschko. If they make this it's one of those circus acts and Briggs wins all around while Haye beats up a photogenic weezing geezer who really never could box. Haye should aim higher and stay current.
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Haye is a media whore and will beat the biggest slag in boxing called Shannon Briggs.
Love him or hate him, he is attracting fans and attention to boxing.
Naz mark 2.0
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El Kabong
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Master
He is not the first fighter to become broke and will not be the last.
Oh but it was SOOOOO much fun watching him go from "I'm going to retire by 30 as champion after beating Wladimir" to "I'm going to have a super fight with Shannon Briggs" at age 35.
He talked so much shit for so fucking long and I'm happy he's broke, I couldn't be more pleased.....seeing Briggs knock him out would actually be the icing on the cake though. Then I will guarantee you there will be a rematch vs Chisora!
;D
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I hadnt considered this but watching Eddie Hearn on IFL last night he doesnt think Haye v Briggs will happen. Briggs wants to get paid but whos going to buy the fight to give the funds for the purses?
Briggs wont accept chump change I dont think knowing it could be his last fight. Haye will have to find another bum with a ranking.
Can you imagine the reality of the fight? Both would be exhausted by the third round after lots of swinging and missing and would need oxygen between rounds.
No one still knows how much worse Hayes stamina has got.
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Master
Naz mark 2.0
Hahaha, right on the money
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Re: David Haye should fight a top HW next, not old Shannon Briggs
Can't speak for anyone else, but I think Haye sucks because he ran his mouth so much and then put in a non effort vs Wladimir. I could've forgiven his cowardly tactics if he had shown some character and balls by admitting that Wlad was just too big and too skilled for him, but instead he blamed it on his pinkie toe. What a vagina.
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i agree with Mikeeod.
Haye really annoys me because he loves himself so much. Watch him being interviewed and he keeps closing his eyes when he talks about himself, just like a cat being stroked.
He loves the celebrity circuit and all the trappings of fame. Those things don't make real fighters.
His non effort against Wlad was shameful, then to blame a wide wide wide loss on a broken toe! If you can't fight properly due to injury, you shouldn't get in the ring (yes, Manny, you too). That is cheating the paying fans.
Talking of which, Haye has no problem in cheating the fans as most of his fights have been zero risk affairs that allow him to blow people away quickly without getting touched. His last two 'fights' have been total con jobs.
He disrespects the sport, and he disrespects fans.
The REALLY annoying thing is that it didn't have to be like this. Haye is (was) fast, strong, skilful and he could really hit. As an offensive machine, he was exciting and dangerous. He likes hurting people and has that vicious streak.
When I look back on his career in years to come, it will be as one of unfulfilled promise. He has always had a stamina problem, and that will be worse now he is bigger. Anyone who can withstand five rounds or so will IMO stop an exhausted Haye.
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Freedom
Nicely written article, Whyte makes no money (and why should it), Wilder wont fight him unless its for a title and big money - the top 3 are not UK box office, rightly or wrongly.
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Box office is bollocks ppv crap. AJ is manufactured/political by Sky and Hearn to become box office but they could easily do the same for Haye and Fury if they wanted. They sold Bellew v Cleverly fight as ppv as well as Haye v Audley so they can do it for anything.