If this fight comes off, what weight will it be at, has anyone seen what was being discussed? All I know is Gilberto wants the fight and Loeffler is open to it but I never see what weight is proposed.
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If this fight comes off, what weight will it be at, has anyone seen what was being discussed? All I know is Gilberto wants the fight and Loeffler is open to it but I never see what weight is proposed.
I heard 168 as an option along with saunders if canelo negotiations fall through. They would try to make Canelo first, presumably Saunders Second and Ramirez's name was thrown into the fold and another exciting name so it doesnt seem like hes out of options. (sounds like GBP is making canelo possibly a non option and Saunders "could fight" (his words) but maybe prices himself out. question is if both canelo and saunders duck him, is it enough for GGG to say "close enough, I got the big 3 (1 on technicality) and the 4 one doesn't want to fight....so everyone knows i'm the peoples champ" and move on...
He's facing hard options now because there's a snake behind every door. Golden boy behind canelo, warren behind saunders, and haymon behind jacobs. As much as id like to see Jacobs and GGG, i have to say its stupid to force a guy to win every title twice. if he beats jacobs, then what. they're gonna take the belt away again anyway and find some other guy to make champ and pay the sanctioning fee in the meantime and keep doing the same thing.
GGG is to busy ducking ward and lara.
GGG would crush Lara. He boxes with his legs too much for a guy that cuts off the ring so well.
You have to be diverse to beat GGG and you have to occupy him. GGG would only be hunting against Lara and he's the best hunter in the business right now.
It must be a ploy and negotiation tool to show that Golovkin has other options.
Saul will look bad if the fight does not happen.
Eubank senior predicted jnr vs ggg in september.... im gonna guesss he means september 2017 😂
He should prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
If no canelo...move up.
Sad scenario.
I'd give a few of GGG's opponents a great chance to beat Lara at 160 pounds, and I do like the Cuban's style. It would prove absolutely nothing if GGG were to beat him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by impHe should prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
If no canelo...move up.
This is going to be funny/interesting as much as canelo and gbp have dodged golovkin at 160lbs I am pretty sure that this is still the fight golovkin and team want, they saw how much khan was paid(over inflated pay of course) and how much golovkin was paid for his win over wade and they know where the money is, which is what they are really after(which is perfectly fine in my opinion). Modern day boxing is full of crap dodges and the whole risk/reward farce but I do enjoy watching these subtle little games unfold, it's like a boxing match between the promoters outside of the ring S:
It would also be very funny all around if ramirez agreed to face ggg for the smw title at a catch weight :S
If they are serious about this one and legit 168 for Golvokin, it's a helluva fight and frankly I think formidable challenge for him. Dude is big all over and absolute volume. If it's a CW then smack Golovkin with a glove of hypocrisy. Jacobs probably gets the nod should he dispatch Lee.
that has potential to be a knockdown fest shootout btw ;D
Is Jacobs fighting Lee next for sure? Think thats more likely a blow out than a shoot out if so.
Nothing solid aside from few mentions, last I saw Jacobs talked Eubank as mandatory. Jacobs-Lee would be fun tv fight. any fighter dropped and hurt bad by a single Mora left hook can be flattened by a bricklayer like Lee ;D. Jacobs should be camping on Golovkins front lawn at this point but promotion is and will be snag.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by SpicoliNothing solid aside from few mentions, last I saw Jacobs talked Eubank as mandatory. Jacobs-Lee would be fun tv fight. any fighter dropped and hurt bad by a single Mora left hook can be flattened by a bricklayer like Lee ;D. Jacobs should be camping on Golovkins front lawn at this point but promotion is and will be snag.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I give Jacobs some benefit of the doubt there as he probably didn't respect Moras punch and wanted a blowout. He couldn't have put his chin on a bigger plate rushing into that hook and Lee seems to only win fights when he's on the verge of being KO'ed though, so good point;D
Its definitely the fight that Team GGG is looking to make, the elephant in the room for Loeffler that noone else sees is the risk being run here by walking away. Loeffler knows if he can't make the fight theres the possibility of other promoters calling around renewal time with the pitch that Loeffler /K2 couldnt get him the big fight. And as soon as GGG signs with Arum or Golden boy, that canelo is suddenly done masturbating err "marinating" at 155 and the fights made a lot easier. For that alone, loyalty aside, Loeffler will probably be wh*ring himself out to get a deal done under his tenure.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
I agree on Lara. It doesn't prove a whole lot to corral a smaller fleet footed lara into a corner and drop a hammer on him when he really cant hurt you. But i have grown quite a fondness for Lara and his style... which is weird considering i cant stand what floyd became, what ward does and how rigo conducted his business much of the time. Maybe because Lara seems to just take a few steps then sets for an exchange, gets the better of it and moves on before doing it again 2 seconds later. There's no 45 seconds of continues side stepping, feinting, clinching, sitting in a shell just to land a pot shot... He'll throw with you and just finds away to slip or block your shot at the same time. and i have to say it cracked me up when he mocked martyrosians flurries.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingI'd give a few of GGG's opponents a great chance to beat Lara at 160 pounds, and I do like the Cuban's style. It would prove absolutely nothing if GGG were to beat him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by impHe should prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
If no canelo...move up.
I think I like him because he's juts not quite as good/complete as those guys imo, so he has to fight in spots and really sits down on the openings he gets. Vanes did some mean body work in their fight, I'm surprised Lara was in the mood to even mention GGG with how his ribs must have felt.
Well that's just it, I think if he was more picky with his shots or actively clinching, he could inch his way toward that circle but he chooses to commit more and dance/hold less even if he knows it could up the chances of him getting caught. Vanes got his body work done but it didnt affect lara as much as i thought it would. In fact it looked at times that Lara was almost invited it at times to get VM's gloves away from his face and open him up a little to the counters. Of course lara wants that recognition and payday but i don't think he can take the abuse as well as he thinks (just because he fought canelo)Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
GGG is negotiating with Eubank for September. Does he stay at 168 if he goes there or does he drop back down?
Eubank wants to go to the Olympics so he is being busy or just lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
if he beat up eubank and makes himself a bit of a star in blighty surely he could set up a relativity big fight v saunders for the last main belt at middleweight, that would be cool, alvarez is too big to go back to 154 for long so as long as he keeps making money then the real big fight for golovkin will be there in the future. I would think he stays at middleweight .Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Well it seems like a good idea for him his division is pretty much trash and not much going on. I am a critic of GGG but in no way can i say he ducked Ward because Ward did not fight for ever and when he came back moved up in division. Moving up in weight is best way to get some names on GGG resume. I really want to see if his power moves up in division or he might end up like Pavlik because you could tell his power at mw and lhw were night and day it will be some good fights though i am sure of it.