Deontay Wilder-Chris Arreola in Play For Summer Showdown
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well arreola hasn't been ko'd for a while :S
About as good a fight as you could have expected for a voluntary from Wilder. I think Arreola is pretty much shit now though, would be surprised if he made this interesting.
Areola will get KTFO in 2 rounds or less.
Good fight IMO.
Much better than another FNF opponent like Spilka. He was tough as hell though and doing well for a while.
Elephant seal poses a real threat I think.
Well we still don't know how well Wilder takes a punch. Arreola could land a big one on Deontay and it could be upset city.
That said it should be Wilder KO in 2-4
There was a time that Arreola was fit and could box and see a lot of the flaws in Wilders game. That time is past. Chris will still be able to see the flaws but he's too shot to take advantage of any of them. He'll get caught looking and dropped in the second.
If he does beat wilder, it says far more about wilder than it does arreola.
I want Chris to win, he can do it all he has to do is take the wild punches from Wilder and tire him out. Rocky style.
When was this when he was in the amateurs?Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
Close! He was a very underrated boxer when he was an amateur. He debuted at heavy professionally, so as he was able to knock people out early in his career he stopped boxing. I was looking for early footage but the earliest i found was 2006. He was great but there was probably a very small window where he remembered how to box and had the fitness to make it work for him. Its kinda sad that the only thing he's remembered for now are his moobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWhen was this when he was in the amateurs?Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
Have a feeling Chris will come off his suspension and be blasted out in spectacular fashion. Man hasn't been fierce since KO'ing Seth Mitchell and has been tooth and nail with guys a world trinket challenger shouldn't be as of late. That chin is cracka la cracked!
True, it is easy to forget that Cris was a LIGHTheavyweight 178 lbs as an amateur....he was a very promising fighter and obviously his power was pretty epic at that weight as well. It is a shame he wasn't dedicated enough to stay at a healthy weight. I think a Cris Arreola that was 215-225 would have been a title holder regardless of how big his opponents were. Not only did he get heavy around the middle his hands got heavier and his feet got heavier....he's the Chicano version of David Tua IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
I forgot about Seth Mitchell. Nice guy and some good talent just weak chin and got in the game too late after football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Hard to defend this decision. I like Wilder, but this is an awful fight to make as a champ.
Lateef Kayode or dare I say Briggs would've been a better choice.
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Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Lateef Kayode? Nah, lol. Arreola used to be good enough to probably beat Wilder imo, so it is at least interesting for the chance that he could turn things back. Guy has been vulnerable forever though, and has looked terrible in his last few fights. There was no chance Wilder was going to fight anyone more dangerous for a voluntary.
Chris was defeated by an opponent who found him tailor made, The meal and snack warriors. Chris seems like a guy who could never pass up the burritos. He will be defeated at the weigh in UNLESS HE IS Chained up at night and all the refrigerators are guarded by armed security. His disposition on fight night may not be fit for viewing by children or those with a heart condition.
They bull rushed poor Mitchell to the HBO hype/grind machine ;D. He was in deep early and if anything maxed the boxing half of it to his credit. Reminded of Cliff Etienne or Jefferson. Minus the whole shooting at cops and shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkI forgot about Seth Mitchell. Nice guy and some good talent just weak chin and got in the game too late after football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Arreola would smash Kayode in 4 rounds I think. Too small. He's not a heavy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
He'd be favorite over old Briggs too.
I liked Seth, really wanted him to be the next star. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThey bull rushed poor Mitchell to the HBO hype/grind machine ;D. He was in deep early and if anything maxed the boxing half of it to his credit. Reminded of Cliff Etienne or Jefferson. Minus the whole shooting at cops and shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkI forgot about Seth Mitchell. Nice guy and some good talent just weak chin and got in the game too late after football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Briggs/Areola I'd pay to see
Arreola best shot may be a mental letdown by Wilder. Under all of the BOMB :bomb: SQUAD yelling and seeming an ok dude, I think Wilder is wrapped way too tight. If Chris commits himself to 4 rounds and gets his arse on his shoulders he may pull off a million dollar brick. The longer it goes the fatter his face becomes though.
Anyone know where they are doing this? Back in Alabama for Wilder maybe
Arreola is really starting to show signs of major wear now, he is slipping a lot i think, he used to be super tough and able to take a lot of punches but he's been knocked down early his last fight and even curtis harper had him in a fair bit of trouble at stages of their fight, he is really getting hit with a lot of punches that he just doesn't see coming anymore and of course they do the most damage. Wilder is certainly not great but he has fast hands and can generate a lot of power so if he takes on this older beat down arreola then I really can't see it ending well for arreola at all S:
Why on earth is he facing this bum is he not a champ god man how much more does he need to learn. I mean he won the belt and he facing a guy who never beat anyone worth a shit really. Why not face a contender is there a reason why these guys are not fighting each other or not.
Povetkin failed the drug test in what was a pretty big money fight. Considering that could be rescheduled and this is a voluntary defence, I think Arreola is about as decent a guy as you could have hoped for, though I agree he's probably getting flattened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I did not know about that well shit he just fighting a guy who got his ass whooped few times by the guy Wilder won title from not to mention fatty has not really done anything at high level. Who knows though Wilder was having a rough time with that no name dude maybe a good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingPovetkin failed the drug test in what was a pretty big money fight. Considering that could be rescheduled and this is a voluntary defence, I think Arreola is about as decent a guy as you could have hoped for, though I agree he's probably getting flattened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
It's pathetic, a title challenger should be formidable. Wilder is a punk and the sport is sad to read about. Everyone maximizing earnings, no glory.
Thank god Crawford and Ward moved up for challenges or the sport wouldn't have anyone to respect.(hard to say since I hate Ward)
I hope Arreola makes GOOD payday for this, and then gets out. I hope he purses over $1.5. Or else taking this fight to knowingly go in and lose is not worth it.
But, the set up ain't "that bad". One of the guys, Molina, that Wilder went in with lost to Arreola in the first round. I'm certain the other two guys that Wilder has ko'd, Arreola would wipe the floor with them just as much ASIDE from Duhappas, and it would all depend on if Arreola came in in shape to go the distance.
Not more than 6 rounds this goes. But let's hope Arreola gets a good, decent "retire me" pay day.
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Enough of this guys.
Arreola will be the best title defense Wilder has made and we all know it.
He's shopworn but leagues above Arthur Spilka and company.
I don't think he is anymore. THe Duhaupas guy Wilder fought proved to be at least formidable stopping Helenius not long ago, and Spizka is a young guy who is decent and probably had his best performance against Wilder. A fighter isn't always as good as his last fight, but his last 3? Pretty safe to say gives you an idea. Watch Arreolas, and tell me thats the same guy he was.
I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit here and let you bash the fight he had with that fat black guy he fought whose name escapes me at the moment lolQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Honestly, elephant seal should be in better shape for his shot at Wilder.
Curtis Harper?! They took turns rattling the blubber on one another.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkI'll be damned if I'm gonna sit here and let you bash the fight he had with that fat black guy he fought whose name escapes me at the moment lolQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Honestly, elephant seal should be in better shape for his shot at Wilder.
Yes that was the epitome of the Sweet Science.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeCurtis Harper?! They took turns rattling the blubber on one another.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkI'll be damned if I'm gonna sit here and let you bash the fight he had with that fat black guy he fought whose name escapes me at the moment lolQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Honestly, elephant seal should be in better shape for his shot at Wilder.
So Arreola gets his head wobbled by Stiverne twice and still gets to fight Wilder while Fury is left scratching his head.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Fury had the Klitschko rematch first I think no matter what, but yeah. Also I think he still has the WBA title? Louis Ortiz is the interm champ for that and would actually fight him or anyone I suspect, that's a better one to hope for. Gave Wilder credit for taking the Povetkin fight in Russia, but he sort of had to. I don't see him going to the UK to unify, which he would also probably have to do.
If Wilder was going to fight Povetkin in Russia I am sure he would be prepared to come to UK to face Fury or AJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Good point. I was ready to throw Wilder under the bus for even entertaining the idea of fighting Arreola.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIf Wilder was going to fight Povetkin in Russia I am sure he would be prepared to come to UK to face Fury or AJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Arreola just went life and death with harpoon harper. who per fight record previous loss was to a 4-0 opponent.
But did he ever really intend to fight Povetkin, or was he looking for a way out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
And he certainly was very reluctant to go ("it's too cold").
Difficult to imagine Wilder, who has been VERY protected, going to the UK to fight a heavyweight close to his own size - especially someone with Fury's skills or Joshua's power.
Wilder was already in Russia when Povetkin failed the VADA test, pretty hard to play that card. He lost the purse bid in that fight and had to go to keep his title was the thing, I agree it's hard to see him going to the UK to unify when he won't have to.
Arreola has a decent chance.
That being said, if Wilder ever gets a good trainer who rids him of his amateurish, wild shot bullshit.... he'll immediately become the dominant HW of this era today.