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Eubank Jr v GGG figthing in autumn
Just had a tweet come through about it.
Poor old Jr, he gunna get KTFO...If it is true that is, Eddie Hearn tweeted it apparently I had the text from sky sports
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Jr is fearless and has a steel chin , it may be an entertaining fight. I would pay to see it .
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This will not be an easy fight for Golovkin.
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Dark Lord Al
Jr is fearless and has a steel chin , it may be an entertaining fight. I would pay to see it .
Me too, yeah chins no prob.
Him and snr will be working on countering body shots with sinking elbows and hooking out a counter response.
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Batman
Just had a tweet come through about it.
Poor old Jr, he gunna get KTFO...If it is true that is, Eddie Hearn tweeted it apparently I had the text from sky sports
I think Hearn will be quite relieved that the pair, or more precisely Snr, may well STFU for at least a few minutes.
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Eubank has the style and stamina to give Golovkin big problems.
I think he stands a better chance of beating Golovkin than any other middle weight certainly better than anyone willing to face him.
Golovkin is methodical and needs time and space to work. Eubank wouldnt give him that with his work rate and will keep him thinking about whats coming back.
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ross
Eubank has the style and stamina to give Golovkin big problems.
I think he stands a better chance of beating Golovkin than any other middle weight certainly better than anyone willing to face him.
Golovkin is methodical and needs time and space to work. Eubank wouldnt give him that with his work rate and will keep him thinking about whats coming back.
I think chin alone he has a better chance than many , not sure if I will be enough to win but he has daddies chin for sure.
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At least Junior is taking the fight and not chasing Saunders. This will elevate Junior, even if he loses, to other world title fights.
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Master
At least Junior is taking the fight and not chasing Saunders. This will elevate Junior, even if he loses, to other world title fights.
Other World Title fights? There's only 2 other champions and Eubank has turned down fights with both of them!
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Pretty brutal stoppage for Golovkin. There is nothing to suggest that Eubank has the kind of power, patience or skill to keep GGG of him. Everything points toward him being over confident, dropping his hands and /or showboating at some point, and getting proper mullered. Will be worth it to hear Snr pulling some outlandish excuse or conspiracy theory out of the hat to explain it.
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I deffenetly think jr has the best chance out of everyone else to beat GGG. Obviously GGG will be big favourite to win but I wouldn't be surprised one bit if jr pulled it off.
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Greenbeanz
Pretty brutal stoppage for Golovkin. There is nothing to suggest that Eubank has the kind of power, patience or skill to keep GGG of him. Everything points toward him being over confident, dropping his hands and /or showboating at some point, and getting proper mullered. Will be worth it to hear Snr pulling some outlandish excuse or conspiracy theory out of the hat to explain it.
Yeah yeah yeah, all the same things were said about Fury before he fought Klitschko;D
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A loss wont even hurt the kids career. It will simply be put off as to much to soon. I'd love to see it and think it would be the Kazaks toughest fight thus far given the time clock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mGXuJBrJ4I
Refreshing. No manufactured response. The kid means every word he says.
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ross
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Greenbeanz
Pretty brutal stoppage for Golovkin. There is nothing to suggest that Eubank has the kind of power, patience or skill to keep GGG of him. Everything points toward him being over confident, dropping his hands and /or showboating at some point, and getting proper mullered. Will be worth it to hear Snr pulling some outlandish excuse or conspiracy theory out of the hat to explain it.
Yeah yeah yeah, all the same things were said about Fury before he fought Klitschko;D
You've got to ask yourself one question. Do I feel lucky? :lyle::author:
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Greenbeanz
Pretty brutal stoppage for Golovkin. There is nothing to suggest that Eubank has the kind of power, patience or skill to keep GGG of him. Everything points toward him being over confident, dropping his hands and /or showboating at some point, and getting proper mullered. Will be worth it to hear Snr pulling some outlandish excuse or conspiracy theory out of the hat to explain it.
Yeah yeah yeah, all the same things were said about Fury before he fought Klitschko;D
I had no idea GGG was a glass jawed 40 year old pacifist.
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Dark Lord Al
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ross
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Greenbeanz
Pretty brutal stoppage for Golovkin. There is nothing to suggest that Eubank has the kind of power, patience or skill to keep GGG of him. Everything points toward him being over confident, dropping his hands and /or showboating at some point, and getting proper mullered. Will be worth it to hear Snr pulling some outlandish excuse or conspiracy theory out of the hat to explain it.
Yeah yeah yeah, all the same things were said about Fury before he fought Klitschko;D
I had no idea GGG was a glass jawed 40 year old pacifist.
Don't worry Ross I've got this one.
Yeah yeah yeah, people only started saying that about Klitschko after Fury beat him :D:D:D
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Batman
Just had a tweet come through about it.
Poor old Jr, he gunna get KTFO...If it is true that is, Eddie Hearn tweeted it apparently I had the text from sky sports
No so fast
Does GGG hit as hard as they make out ? Have you seen a ref over a Triple G opponent say "7,8,9, 10"
Mike Tyson used to knock them out for the count of 30 !!
Have you ever seen Triple G, KO someone out cold like Canelo did Khan ?
I haven't.
But Eubank should be applauded for showing some bollocks. To be honest. I see Eubank Jr winning.
Triple G is by no means old. But, at 34, he is not young either and with his come forward "You hit me. but I hit harder" I see this being similar to when Julio Chavez fought Meldrick Taylor in 1990.
I see Eubank throwing lots of punches and being ahead, but it's just whether Triple G would catch up with him down the stretch. I've always said I'm not fan of Triple G at all. I just don't see anything special about him. Now I could be wrong but I say what I see, not what people tell me.
Roy Jones. James Toney. Bernard Hopkins. Micheal Nunn. Mike McCallum would have stood him on his head. I think Steve Collins and Eubank Sr and Micheal Watson, Nigel Benn and Gerald McCllelan would have beat him too.
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Golovkin is very heavy handed and stopped a lot of durable opponents like Murray, who Groves could not stop at super middle, so triple G's power must be respected.
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denilson200
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Batman
Just had a tweet come through about it.
Poor old Jr, he gunna get KTFO...If it is true that is, Eddie Hearn tweeted it apparently I had the text from sky sports
No so fast
Does GGG hit as hard as they make out ? Have you seen a ref over a Triple G opponent say "7,8,9, 10"
point taken on the GGG knocking people out cold, it did make me have a hunt on youtube and I came across this one which I don't believe I have seen before, I think its fair to say this was a pretty solid knockout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DG7OUZThzs
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Well if the kid does indeed have his dads chin that alone will be a bigger Challenge then anything GGG has faced in his career. If GGG power is taken away from him i am very curious how good he will look he is a good boxer not great his power masks his flaws he has would love to watch the fight.
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GGG is an effortless punching machine , he is pinpoint and deadly. The bodywork will break JR down and he will be most likely stopped in the later rounds.
I think its a good matchup.
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This is all bollocks. At the post fight press conference Hearn said the fight is done from Golovkin's end, everyones on board, but the Eubanks have to sign. To which the old man started waffling about it's up to Sky/money.
They're just using Golovkin's name.
Also, I don't agree there's evidence Jr has his dads beard, the only world-class fighter he's faced was a non-puncher. Doran, Spike, Blackwell - yeah these guys can crack but compared to Jacobs, Lee, Lemieux let alone Golovkin. Different levels.
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if it isn't bollox, which I don't think it is, then Eubank does deserve a pat on the back for chasing the fight
there's ways of gaining publicity that aren't chasing (what looks like) the most brutal boxer that's been on the scene for the last 30 years
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Who is in charge of his career? Is it Papa, Fast Eddie or him. Promoters say a lot of things about "done deals"
The kid seems genuine. If its a front then they got me. If the fight happens great and if it does not so what? Its not supposed to.
Question to Mr. @denilson200.
How many 10 counts have you seen in the last 30 years?
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he took on Saunders very early
he had fought absolutely no one at the time and had only been a handful of rounds in 15ish fights
to risk his unbeaten record against Saunders who is clearly a very good fighter and something which was clear at the time, that takes some balls
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erics44
he took on Saunders very early
he had fought absolutely no one at the time and had only been a handful of rounds in 15ish fights
to risk his unbeaten record against Saunders who is clearly a very good fighter and something which was clear at the time, that takes some balls
Eubank had a wrongly placed self inflated view of his own ability and did not fight an experienced fight against BJS. Junior would probably end up losing to Golovkin for the very same reason. Junior has not fought at a world class stage against a world class fighter and won.
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Master
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erics44
he took on Saunders very early
he had fought absolutely no one at the time and had only been a handful of rounds in 15ish fights
to risk his unbeaten record against Saunders who is clearly a very good fighter and something which was clear at the time, that takes some balls
Eubank had a wrongly placed self inflated view of his own ability and did not fight an experienced fight against BJS. Junior would probably end up losing to Golovkin for the very same reason. Junior has not fought at a world class stage against a world class fighter and won.
that's all probably very true
but my post was in reaction to people saying his is bullshitting
I'm saying that I think he is serious, I think that he actually thinks he can win and for the reasons you suggest
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erics44
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Master
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erics44
he took on Saunders very early
he had fought absolutely no one at the time and had only been a handful of rounds in 15ish fights
to risk his unbeaten record against Saunders who is clearly a very good fighter and something which was clear at the time, that takes some balls
Eubank had a wrongly placed self inflated view of his own ability and did not fight an experienced fight against BJS. Junior would probably end up losing to Golovkin for the very same reason. Junior has not fought at a world class stage against a world class fighter and won.
that's all probably very true
but my post was in reaction to people saying his is bullshitting
I'm saying that I think he is serious, I think that he actually thinks he can win and for the reasons you suggest
I think so too.
I would still like to see him take that opportunity to face Jacobs, not that I think Jacobs is great but Eubank has no fear of these last few opponents and isnt as focussed during the fight as he should be. He took the piss in that Doran fight. He could have wiped the floor with him in round one had he been deadly serious. Thats what I wanted to see. I think he troubles Golovkin but he needs someone who can pressure him with some power first even though I suppose in a way OSullivan and Blackwell could do that to a degree, they arent the best at not getting hit.
Like Master said it could be Saunders over again. Just needed that bit more experience but pushes him to a close decision.
I would still back him if he was to fight Golovkin next but if I was managing him id want that Jacobs fight first.
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I want eubanks carear to be long and entertaining with the belief he is at the top level
the GGG fight is a massive risk, he could well get blasted out in a round
and that would take the edge of what ever he does from then on
so yes, id rather see him fight Jacobs too
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Hope I'm wrong but I think this Golovkin talk could be bluffing from eubank snr. Jnr could have fought Jacobs but fought Blackwell. He could've rematched saunders but chose Doran so why would he fight Golovkin next. Limieux is a more realistic fight for him
If it does happen, props to eubank for going after the avoided man. Canelos ducking of the same guy was inexcusable. Possibly the worst duck in history.
Pac and Floyd was bad but they had excuses over drug testing principles etc. Canelo just blatantly ducked Golovkin to fight Liam smith and that's shameful.
So if eubank steps up he gets full credit.
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Well if the kid does indeed have his dads chin that alone will be a bigger Challenge then anything GGG has faced in his career. If GGG power is taken away from him i am very curious how good he will look he is a good boxer not great his power masks his flaws he has would love to watch the fight.
Yeah if he is being out pointed mid way through and realizes he cant drop Jnr off head shots the whole thing could head into an area we haven't seen yet, which is what we all want; to see him tested out.
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erics44
if it isn't bollox, which I don't think it is, then Eubank does deserve a pat on the back for chasing the fight
there's ways of gaining publicity that aren't chasing (what looks like) the most brutal boxer that's been on the scene for the last 30 years
No I think the old man truly believes Jr will batter Golovkin. He's that nuts. However, he's not nuts enough to demand a kings ransom to be proven right.
I'd love it to happen, especially as we get Golovkin in the UK, but think it's more likely we'll be hearing about Sky/Matchroom couldn't meet their demands.
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You mainlanders in the UK get to see Rigondeaux, Golovkin and Klitschko on your doorstep this year. Cant be bad.
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ross
You mainlanders in the UK get to see Rigondeaux, Golovkin and Klitschko on your doorstep this year. Cant be bad.
That's if the Brexit lot let them in. They will probably arrive to a "Go home Vermin" on the dressing room door if it carries on like it is ;D
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Andre
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Mr140
Well if the kid does indeed have his dads chin that alone will be a bigger Challenge then anything GGG has faced in his career. If GGG power is taken away from him i am very curious how good he will look he is a good boxer not great his power masks his flaws he has would love to watch the fight.
Yeah if he is being out pointed mid way through and realizes he cant drop Jnr off head shots the whole thing could head into an area we haven't seen yet, which is what we all want; to see him tested out.
If GGG does not have the power to hurt the guy he is fighting he is about half the fighter. GGG outside of his power is kinda of meh there a reason he not moving up weight classes because his power is his main weapon take that away and we see what he is made of this would be a step up i think.
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How exactly is anyone going to take away GGGs power? He gets great leverage on nearly every punch. He moves his feet beautifully, he picks his punches beautifully. There was a reason I wanted to see Ward/GGG so badly, nobody else at 160/168 is nearly as good as GGG.(somebody might rise up but right now he stands alone)
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GGG is much more than just power. His foot work, jab and boxing brain are terrific.
To say if he didn't have power he wouldn't be the same... well yeah. You wouldn't be the same if you was born with a fanny instead of goolies.
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Yep, lot of Ifs there. If GGG can't impose his power and If Eubank has his Dad's Chin. Might as well just come out and say "I don't like GGG."