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Yep you knew this was coming. :)
How would you run it?
Honestly, I would just create reddit thread for the start, once I get some community, maybe I would start the forumQuote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Run forum? No good suggestions
Ben about 100 of you lot, instantly!
Have I missed something. Why did we know this was comingQuote:
Originally Posted by Andre
If you read in others threads apparently its the mods faults this place has apparently slipped. The numbers show growth in traffic over all and wavers in between decent fights, but we are talking control of what goes on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKOHave I missed something. Why did we know this was comingQuote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Aside from Banning Master what would you do different is my honest question to everyone.
Love to take on any good ideas that are fair.
Face book has many they are all linked to each other by the fans crossing over in one click too,the feeds are instant as soon as you like a page you are on tap from then on.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminHonestly, I would just create reddit thread for the start, once I get some community, maybe I would start the forumQuote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Run forum? No good suggestions
Their trouble is its one page and all over, too long to scroll on down a page if you are looking for something its gets slower and slower the further down you go. so there is no referencing, no set history, its all very scattered but instant and good info so no real threat to solid forums.
It's not the mods fault, who said that? There is a difference now though. When the majority of non boxing posts on the other boards are started by someone with obsessive compulsive disorder then of course the sheer volume and repetitive nature of them will change the landscape. Add to that the little gang mentality that has four or five cyber bum chums constantly ego stroking each other and absolutely never deviating from their group manifesto mentality and then it all becomes very babyish and bland. @Calling is now a shared compulsion and the very first reaction to another opinion is attack and deride enmasse. So most people stay out of those threads and it's just a big long list of Google and YouTube quotes and clips restating their own prejudices and bolstering their entrenched position. Threads used to ebb and flow and while people may not have changed their opinion at least a neutral reader could look at opinions from both sides. Respect for other posters is simply non existent unless they comply and toe the party line. I am not part of and have no wish to be part of that gang and yet even you, who are a pretty laid back and balanced guy, pretend that I am somehow supposed to just not express any kind of emotion in response and should just accept the new flow. It is partly my fault for not starting enough threads with an alternative viewpoint anymore but I simply do not have the time. It also gets kind of tiring to have to climb a mountain to just start from a level playing field. You mention anything about your personal life and if you are not invite gang you are just branded a liar, a mental health patient or junkie etc. If it was not for the boxing side I would have left like many others. Rarely see half the gang on fight Night threads which always used to be the great leveler but I am glad about that really, that really could be the final straw. Just wish it was not so one sided and repetitive on the other boards but am not surprised that the ones who have repeatedly stuck their middle fingers up to the mods and dissed most of the other posters and the forum have taken over the asylum.
Ok I got , it is like Brexit, well I will call the forum
Saddexit
I'd copy Saddo, as this forum is still going after a hundred years
((Andre, I don't know whose been saying what, but you need to learn how to tell people to fuck off instead of taking everthing to heart))
@Andre no need to change ANYTHING bud. Nothing has "slipped" here at all. Ridiculous accusation for anyone to make. This is a great forum, nothing "slipped" about it at all. Its easy for people to make wild, subjective claims like that, to try to make others feel guilty, GET THEIR WAY ABOUT whatever bug is up their ass.
Don't take it to heart mate, its not on you, we love you, NO ISSUES.
A moderator on an Internet forum is there merely to uphold the rules of engagement of the forum. It's a thankless job, with little reward and lots of criticism, as everyone has an opinion on everything. Humans are wonderful at second-guessing.
The mods here, by and large, do a good job at what they do, and have kept the forum going for a good number of years. Battles rage, and the mods only ask that the strong stuff be kept to the restricted, non-boxing boards. Bans are given, mostly temporary... and I imagine they mostly do the trick. Everyone can use a slap on the hand now and then.
There is a mechanism for complaining privately, and it's available to everyone. I've used it, and have received a response, whether it's what I wanted to hear or not.
It's tough dealing with so many different types of personalities on a forum, just like in real life. Finally, the fact that many of us keep coming back is the ultimate sign that something good we must be getting out of it.
Spoken like the True Champ of Vieques ;-)
I agree. Great assessment.... Bang fucking spot on.
We all keep coming back. And for "those" ( if they even exist!) Who were "driven off in rabid, indignant disgust" , well, er, ummm.... WOW, I'm just...WOW! I could never picture an adult quitting a forum because they "didn't like" certain threads.
If its not broke don't break it. People have opinions and people come and go. Aside from sorting out the occasional turd from the punch bowl and raining on a fire starter or two the last thing we need is to compare 'us' to another forum as we're a special...not short bus special :-X... kinda breed.
oh and I'd bring back Wacko for RBRs
Agreeeeeeeeeed. :-)). Ain't broken, don't fix it. I ALWAYS use that expression at work to my bosses. I love the "turd" metaphor! Sorting punch bowls and raining on fires IS THE SYSTEM WORKING PERFECTLY!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
No issues.
I havent taken this one to heart Im not upset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I want to know what they would do different. Thats called put up or shut up.
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Originally Posted by Andre
I guess I should look at the blogs before I comment...!
Do you have guests from time to time?
My fav site did. Most times it was boxers the moderators met at the boxing hall of fame.
Front page would headline it like Steve USS Cunningham online this Friday!! Taking questions.
The last guy was Nate Campbell right after he beat Diaz.
I would definitely have guest boxers, referees ...even try to get a few who post from time to time. ...if I had a site...or could suggest to this one.
In terms of moderating??? Especially the non boxing threads..I dunno. I tend to agree with Greenz I decided to kinda talk political on political sites..not so much here anymore. Here it isn't political discussion. Just bunker minded arguments with an I'm-right-your-wrong- mentality.
...one can't limit their ideas without denying their freedom of speech to denigrate, berate, contradict and or exemplify bias even bigoted thinking.
Such topics won't necessarily imply racism or violence. So a moderator has a helluva job in trying to moderate off topics...and not runaway certain people who cant take such great offense that they leave.
Again, I cannot fathom.a well-adjusted adult being driven off a forum.
I have read all sorts of stellar posts and rubbish as well, and none.of it has ever caused anything.
I thought I was sensitive, but one has to be a bloody fucking PETUNIA to find "disagreeable" or "childish" posts SO repugnant (OH! THE FUCKING MELODRAMA!) to opt out of participating.
WHAT UTTER, UTTER RUBBISH.
Put up or shut up.
Agreed.
Naw. . your TAN.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Tough
As
Nails.
Agreed. Freedom of speech.
Yeah. That's right. So hang tough homie. Corned beef and kites. New book coming out. Fireworks on the 4 th. Over in the north. Did you see mommy? She's making the pastrami. Power out. Sauer kraut.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeNaw. . your TAN.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Tough
As
Nails.
Agreed. Freedom of speech.
Not much to change really, but there should be politically correct board where those that don't like fun can post without being triggered.
••*****•••••```````THAT IS THE POST OF THE POST-BREXIT ERA`````•••••***********•••Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Damn, son, YOU HAVE NAILED IT!!!!!! OH HELL YEAH…………OH HELLLLLLLL YYYYYYYYEAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
Not broke don't fix.
Not being the boxing fan I once was I miss a lot of what goes on here - and I don't get involved in the political shit (on saying that I surprised myself by posting a few views on brevity yesterday) as it usually has to involve reading a couple of dissertations by Miles.
I have no problems with the Mods apart from the fact Master is one.
I remember the early days when JimC once changed the word 'Arse' in my post to 'bum'. ;D;D . Whattaguy. Sad do had to have a word. Anyone remember Saddo ?!?
Let the ones moaning speak
Beanz is right. Miles Brock Rocco and Master should be banned. Andre should be demoted and I should be a mod. I will clean this place up of the turds falling into these forums. If I ran this place there would be no more joking around and we would solve the issues screwing up this world. Way too many utter cunts around here.13 year olds would not be allowed which would take care of the Rocco issue. Spiccolli can stay, he doesn't piss me off like master does. This place has gone to hell. Bring back Bill Paxtom, so what he didn't like Joe Louis but he appreciated Ali. I'll trade two Brock's for one Bill Paxtom. Miles is alright but he's an utter cunt and he's trying to turn me gay. Well I have many other ideas to fix this place but most of you aren't smart enough to keep up with me yes, I was voted one of the best posters here which shows a few of you have a brain. I'm at work right now so I don't know why you are all bothering me but since I got this promotion at the job it seems I can do whatever I want and no one bothers me. I know it sounds good but I work third shift on the weekend and put in 40 hours in three days so it really isn't that great and I miss a lot of boxing so these bastards should leave me alone. I shall get to work and fix this forum but we definitely need to get rid of a number of utter cunts. Now stop bothering me.
@walrus I just may re-vote and give you post of the post-Brexit era! Stellar stuff. Now take me home, country roads, to the place, I belong, ...
This post defines the toughness of moderating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
10-20 years ago, there was no phrase called p.c. So those who spoke freely, ...to the point of insults...were labeled as assholes with no respect for other's opinions.
See, how does a moderator determine what is fun? For all?
Some like to call people names in fun. That's cool. Others because that's how they think. How does a moderator determine the difference?
Thanks to this new label...politically correct....a real goodness to gracious Christian can't engage in calling someone a hoe' ass punk ass dick suckin' liberal... Their principles.. Which they practice wouldn't allow.
Those who find fault in certain races, ethnicity, religions partisan parties have a ball using the label (PC).
I noticed those who don't use the term PC...are the very ones getting slapped with that very label.
Where is the fun in constantly deriding one political party? Constantly finding fault including certain demographics..ignoring others?
I don't initiate name calling on boards because I am PC...if I can't say it to your face, then I have no manly reason to say it across the internet.
Boxing, sports in general... I can take ragging...but adults 30,40 or 50 older...don't see fun the same way on social political iissues.
A good moderator has to take that into consideration.
Great points, Ben. You clearly don't see the fun in political mudslinging. I respect that. You have also concisely pointed how side-splittingly good fun other people find it. There is no right and wrong. Again, THE BEAUTY OF FREEDOM IS A POSTER CAN SKIP A THREAD THEY FIND REPUGNANT.
(Rather than accuse "wicked people" (oh! The bloody fucking MELODRAMA!) of "destroying" a forum!) Or....engage in character assassination....a southwestern favorite tactic that Miles and I have had hurled our way in countless occasions....
Master (except for his accidental banning of me for something Bill Paxton cruelly wrote about Bean on his birthday) is an AWESOME mod, and Andre is Cool Hand Luke who has amazed me with his even-handedness while coming under utterly unreasonable attack from Bean lately. Mods are doing great.
Threads get nixed or bounced, that's the way it goes, I have no issues.
Threads seem repugnant to some, hey, IGNORE THE THREAD OR PARTICIPATE AS YOU LIKE. You are FREE!
Yeah mate I think Saddo was smart setting up the boards like this that way we at least have a place to sweep stuff if some dirt start building and people are being to choke up ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeThis post defines the toughness of moderating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
10-20 years ago, there was no phrase called p.c. So those who spoke freely, ...to the point of insults...were labeled as assholes with no respect for other's opinions.
See, how does a moderator determine what is fun? For all?
Some like to call people names in fun. That's cool. Others because that's how they think. How does a moderator determine the difference?
Thanks to this new label...politically correct....a real goodness to gracious Christian can't engage in calling someone a hoe' ass punk ass dick suckin' liberal... Their principles.. Which they practice wouldn't allow.
Those who find fault in certain races, ethnicity, religions partisan parties have a ball using the label (PC).
I noticed those who don't use the term PC...are the very ones getting slapped with that very label.
Where is the fun in constantly deriding one political party? Constantly finding fault including certain demographics..ignoring others?
I don't initiate name calling on boards because I am PC...if I can't say it to your face, then I have no manly reason to say it across the internet.
Boxing, sports in general... I can take ragging...but adults 30,40 or 50 older...don't see fun the same way on social political iissues.
A good moderator has to take that into consideration.
Instead of getting too involved in it cause really who are we to judge its a changing world.
That said, I think it would be a running shit hole if the first rule of 'respect peoples race and sex' was quashed:
Then again that is for blatant discrimination and old fashioned abuse through name calling not talking about all it openly.
I think people should try and be polite to one another and I guess that is a form of political correctness. What confuses me though is when you offer some facts and then the reply is something along the lines of 'That is racist propaganda, you cunt'. And that just has me scratching my head because you are just offering facts that don't fit the politically correct narrative and then at the same time being abused for facts that are just facts. Like for instance it is a fact that children of single mothers are more likely to become single mothers too and have issues with drugs and alcohol and live in poverty. Pointing this out is apparently just being a cunt and I don't think it is. I think it is just offering evidence and then suggesting people don't need to perpetuate cycles of misery. Instead you are always a cunt no matter what you say or do. There is a double standard there. They ignore the serious issues and just want to make you a cunt regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeThis post defines the toughness of moderating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
10-20 years ago, there was no phrase called p.c. So those who spoke freely, ...to the point of insults...were labeled as assholes with no respect for other's opinions.
See, how does a moderator determine what is fun? For all?
Some like to call people names in fun. That's cool. Others because that's how they think. How does a moderator determine the difference?
Thanks to this new label...politically correct....a real goodness to gracious Christian can't engage in calling someone a hoe' ass punk ass dick suckin' liberal... Their principles.. Which they practice wouldn't allow.
Those who find fault in certain races, ethnicity, religions partisan parties have a ball using the label (PC).
I noticed those who don't use the term PC...are the very ones getting slapped with that very label.
Where is the fun in constantly deriding one political party? Constantly finding fault including certain demographics..ignoring others?
I don't initiate name calling on boards because I am PC...if I can't say it to your face, then I have no manly reason to say it across the internet.
Boxing, sports in general... I can take ragging...but adults 30,40 or 50 older...don't see fun the same way on social political iissues.
A good moderator has to take that into consideration.
In the past I would have liked it if the personal abuse could have been stopped because basically at times I had no choice but to defend myself in a very aggressive, base manner no different to those doing the attacking. At times it also led to me being very angry with Mods and the site. No doubt about it. I didn't feel I was getting a fair hearing. I hear it constantly now too, but it is just that I handle it a bit better than in the past. I have come to understand that those doing the attacking have serious issues of their own and it makes them feel better to have a few targets. I will have a dig back now and then, but certainly not lose sleep over it. It did use to make me very angry.
Now have I said some terrible things in my life as a younger man? Yes, I have. Now get over it! It's like the media saying Bowie was a fascist for making a few political comments and being caught mid wave/Nazi salute in the 1970's. He probably wasn't much of a fascist, but you can always hold a few drunk sentences up and say 'See, he was!'. Bit sad if you ask me.
Basically, that's called "mountains out of mole hills". Its been the norm now for about 15 years. What?! He was wearing a swastika? Oh he must be an anti-Semite!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Corny ass shit, really. Corny mofos with that shit.
Master is an awesome Mod ?
You must have one big dollop of shit in your head
He should be stripped of mod status immediately
If I had my way I would ban you straight away but because you are Saddo's boyfriend I am not allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
If I had my own forum I would have a tits and ass thread.
I would ban any positive conversation about Floyd.
The Ali legendary thread would be stickied for life.
Well we do have both threads I think on the Hidden forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIf I had my way I would ban you straight away but because you are Saddo's boyfriend I am not allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
If I had my own forum I would have a tits and ass thread. .
There is no hidden board.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustWell we do have both threads I think on the Hidden forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIf I had my way I would ban you straight away but because you are Saddo's boyfriend I am not allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
If I had my own forum I would have a tits and ass thread. .
Gee this made it on the forum......this forum has gone downhill.
I remember when we sat around peacefully discussing what hot drinks we preferred....now THAT was a forum thread! Today you just have nothing, a bunch of people wanting to debate politics, hypothesize about the role of government, and discuss current events and how they affect us as individuals living in different parts of the world.
Fucking forum fucking sucks! ;D
All the politics and culture stuff is interesting. It's good to read what different people think about serious issues.
YES!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
We even have the who sucks the most thread, intricately woven in between so many others , making up a GOTY Quilt of sorts, all to be merged with the Saddo Ghey Of the Year awards.
The sly little nuances these lads go too to win this years SGoY has become an in bitch art form I really cant pick a winner.
The forum and crown event is just not like it used to be,Its was all so clear once. But the girdle has slipped, it was all so upfront and clear in the old days,Id blame someone but like a little bitch with too many dresses to choose from, I cant decide :eek:.
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Stop trying to pretend you dont care about winning the crown this year, we can see right through your Gay attempts at civility and manliness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
BwaahahahAAAAA. when he pretends, he convinces nobody!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreStop trying to pretend you dont care about winning the crown this year, we can see right through your Gay attempts at civility and manliness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
When Big Joan Sets Up, off Trout Mask, I can hear "like a little bitch with too many dresses to pick from"...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYES!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
We even have the who sucks the most thread, intricately woven in between so many others , making up a GOTY Quilt of sorts, all to be merged with the Saddo Ghey Of the Year awards.
The sly little nuances these lads go too to win this years SGoY has become an in bitch art form I really cant pick a winner.
The forum and crown event is just not like it used to be,Its was all so clear once. But the girdle has slipped, it was all so upfront and clear in the old days,Id blame someone but like a little bitch with too many dresses to choose from, I cant decide :eek:.
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