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The mirror is saying Tyson Fury tested positive for a steroid last year
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I posted this in the Fury v Klit thread.
Strange one both he and Hughie tested for it but I'm guessing it was a tiny amount over otherwise it would have been pretty big news, as it is its a small story in the mirror.
Maybe more will come out as time goes on but I kind of think it's being blown out of proportion at the minute
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I hope they investigate and finds out that this is all a mistake and not true.
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Batman
I posted this in the Fury v Klit thread.
Strange one both he and Hughie tested for it but I'm guessing it was a tiny amount over otherwise it would have been pretty big news, as it is its a small story in the mirror.
Maybe more will come out as time goes on but I kind of think it's being blown out of proportion at the minute
yeah, I just re-read my comment and first of all I say its a small story in the mirror and then I say it is being blown out of proportion, doesn't really make sense does it.
I guess I am trying to say that the article is misleading and could be insinuating that it has the potential to be more serious than it is.
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Its misleading when it says an anabolic steroid but then says its a naturally occuring subtance in the human body already. The levels were slightly raised as to what a normal person would produce. Well the afurys arent normal people. The are the land of the giants and all look adult by the time they are teenagers.
I dont think there has been any cheating. If you are at that stage in your career would you really use something so old hat? I remember Linford Christie being found using this and I think Dwain Chambers, sprinters in the early 2000's.
If he had been found cheating Klitschkos team would have been all over it.
What would really happen if he was actually found guilty of cheating, whch he hasnt. What would happen to the belts, including the IBF?
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Its misleading when it says an anabolic steroid but then says its a naturally occuring subtance in the human body already. The levels were slightly raised as to what a normal person would produce. Well the afurys arent normal people. The are the land of the giants and all look adult by the time they are teenagers.
I dont think there has been any cheating. If you are at that stage in your career would you really use something so old hat? I remember Linford Christie being found using this and I think Dwain Chambers, sprinters in the early 2000's.
If he had been found cheating Klitschkos team would have been all over it.
What would really happen if he was actually found guilty of cheating, whch he hasnt. What would happen to the belts, including the IBF?
Eddie Hearne mentioned that they would be handed back to Klit and he would then be looking to arrange a fight against him with AJ
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Fury doesnt strike me as having the build of someone who uses roids.
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Batman
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ross
Its misleading when it says an anabolic steroid but then says its a naturally occuring subtance in the human body already. The levels were slightly raised as to what a normal person would produce. Well the afurys arent normal people. The are the land of the giants and all look adult by the time they are teenagers.
I dont think there has been any cheating. If you are at that stage in your career would you really use something so old hat? I remember Linford Christie being found using this and I think Dwain Chambers, sprinters in the early 2000's.
If he had been found cheating Klitschkos team would have been all over it.
What would really happen if he was actually found guilty of cheating, whch he hasnt. What would happen to the belts, including the IBF?
Eddie Hearne mentioned that they would be handed back to Klit and he would then be looking to arrange a fight against him with AJ
But what about Joshuas bullshit IBF? Would tha go straight back to Wlad?
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Dark Lord Al
Fury doesnt strike me as having the build of someone who uses roids.
Now I wont believe Fury has chead until someone can prove it BUT that is quite naive! Basing opinions on bodyshape.
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"A much more likely theory has recently emerged from the results of a preliminary investigation at Aberdeen University. The findings are that dietary supplements themselves are harmless and produce no increased levels of nandrolone. Exercise alone, too, doesn't cause any problems. But a combination of both dietary supplements (none of which contain a banned substance) and exercise, can result in a positive nandrolone test. The reason for this is still unclear, but one theory is that there is a link between heavy training, the dehydration that goes with it, and their effects upon the components of high protein diets. Until more work is done, however, the 'nandrolone mystery' goes on..."
Nandrolone
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Tam Seddon
Tyson Fury is white. So that will affect how the powers that be treat him. That is, his denials will be taken more seriously and the penalties won't be as harsh as they would have been had it had been Wilder or Josh.
Look at what happened when Sharapova admitted to using steds (2 year ban) if that was Serena Williams she would have never been allowed to hit another tennis ball again.
But in regards to this case, If anyone actually believes Fury is on roids, they need their head examined
Nothing about him says roids, not his body, or his power
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...1793584753.jpg
But then again, Erkan Teper was juiced up and look at the state of him
http://75a9.http.cdn.softlayer.net/0...Teper-A720.jpg
The only thing which is suspicious to me is how quickly he can get himself in fighting condition.
2 weeks into training and his body looked drastically different. I suppose its doable especially with insane training regime. but tyson is not the most motivated person.
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Tam Seddon
Tyson Fury is white. So that will affect how the powers that be treat him. That is, his denials will be taken more seriously and the penalties won't be as harsh as they would have been had it had been Wilder or Josh.
Look at what happened when Sharapova admitted to using steds (2 year ban) if that was Serena Williams she would have never been allowed to hit another tennis ball again.
But in regards to this case, If anyone actually believes Fury is on roids, they need their head examined
Nothing about him says roids, not his body, or his power
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...1793584753.jpg
But then again, Erkan Teper was juiced up and look at the state of him
http://75a9.http.cdn.softlayer.net/0...Teper-A720.jpg
The only thing which is suspicious to me is how quickly he can get himself in fighting condition.
2 weeks into training and his body looked drastically different. I suppose its doable especially with insane training regime. but tyson is not the most motivated person.
Ignoring the infantile bit at the start of your post you end it by saying Fury isn't the most motivated person, I've read countless times that when he gets into camp he trains like an absolute mad man and lives breathes and dies for it, yeah he isn't a gym rat in between fights but he certainly can motivate himself when he has to.
And don't believe him when he says himself he isn't motivated, that is all tomfoolery and head games.
He ain't no Mayweather in between fights but he ain't quite Ricky Hatton either
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I am not so sure Tyson Fury is white.
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Dark Lord Al
Fury doesnt strike me as having the build of someone who uses roids.
Saw this same response by people in the states about Rafael Palmeiro, he popped hot only a few months after waving his finger at members of congress.
Look at Tysons body now, it has changed quite a bit since he tested positive, like a man that stopped using. Go to the gym and you will see many soft men. What you have to consider is not the shape they are in but rather the shape they would be in without.
We don't know anything except that they both failed the tests, that part is not being contested. They will have a chance to explain why they tested positive and then people can choose whether they believe them by whether they like them or not. Because that is what is always the deciding factor with fans sadly.
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Whoa calm down he hasnt failed any test. They have found raised levels of a substance that naturally occurs in your body and there is research done that proves hard training and taking legal suppliments can raise these levels somehow. Read the link I posted above.
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Whoa calm down he hasnt failed any test. They have found raised levels of a substance that naturally occurs in your body and there is research done that proves hard training and taking legal suppliments can raise these levels somehow. Read the link I posted above.
That is a failed test
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If James "2tons" Tobey could pop for a substance so can Fury. Seems most people limit roids to be used solely for power, when there are various reasons athletes use substances.
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Ron Swanson
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ross
Whoa calm down he hasnt failed any test. They have found raised levels of a substance that naturally occurs in your body and there is research done that proves hard training and taking legal suppliments can raise these levels somehow. Read the link I posted above.
That is a failed test
If the levels were over the allowed limit wouldnt he have been banned by now?
All they are saying is they are higher than expected and if anyone actually bothers to fucking read the link I posted, the combination intense excercise and legal supplements can raise nandrolone levels but no one knows why.
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ross
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Ron Swanson
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ross
Whoa calm down he hasnt failed any test. They have found raised levels of a substance that naturally occurs in your body and there is research done that proves hard training and taking legal suppliments can raise these levels somehow. Read the link I posted above.
That is a failed test
If the levels were over the allowed limit wouldnt he have been banned by now?
All they are saying is they are higher than expected and if anyone actually bothers to fucking read the link I posted, the combination intense excercise and legal supplements can raise nandrolone levels but no one knows why.
When I heard that they failed the test my very first thought was "I wonder how Ross will defend this" and here you are. So predictable.
If you look through my history you will see I am consistent no matter who the fighter. I condemn all drug cheats. Of course it all has to play out, they get their day in court to explain why they had unnatural levels in their system but you jumping to their defense only shines light on you, not the situation at hand.
This idea that people will have unnatural levels through the combination of exercise and supplements. Well Ross, why then do thousands and thousands and thousands of tests not fail every year? Including tests of Tyson and Hughie? Don't you think it is some amazing coincidence that both suddenly now fail on the same day? Or are you not to be trusted in the slightest?
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Maybe we should consider the possibility Tyson is pregnant. That would explain the elevated levels. After all, that is why some communist countries would impregnate their female athletes and only later abort the pregnancies. Maybe he can write a book "Training advantages of pregnancy-by Tyson Fury"
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Sorry Ron I assumed you werent a scientist.
You know better than all those scientists at the Aberdeen university that say a high protein diet and dehydration from intense training does produce a positive nandrolone result.
Its there in black and white by scholars but nope we have to listen to dullard Ron Swanson and his educated opinion on the matter;D
Twat;D
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Ha ha! Ross and his uni buddies!!! I love it when Ross gets all heated and pissy and tries to make out he's calm by putting a smiley emoji after the word "twat" ! Priceless.
Until we hear some more about this, I'm not really interested.
But what I am interested in is if @ross is going to apologise to Anthony Joshua for continually insinuating that AJ is on steroids because of his muscle mass increase, despite the fact that he has neither failed a test or produced unnaturally high Nandrolone levels.
I won't hold my breath.
Double Twat! 😂😂😂😂
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ross
Sorry Ron I assumed you werent a scientist.
You know better than all those scientists at the Aberdeen university that say a high protein diet and dehydration from intense training does produce a positive nandrolone result.
Its there in black and white by scholars but nope we have to listen to dullard Ron Swanson and his educated opinion on the matter;D
Twat;D
Answer the questions coward
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They didnt fail. The levels werent high enough to fail, just raised amounts of a naturally occuring substance.
If he had failed do you really think hed now be THE heavyweight champion of the world? The tests were done last March, over a year ago.
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Ron Swanson
Maybe we should consider the possibility Tyson is pregnant. That would explain the elevated levels. After all, that is why some communist countries would impregnate their female athletes and only later abort the pregnancies. Maybe he can write a book "Training advantages of pregnancy-by Tyson Fury"
is this true?
I wonder who got the job of the impregnator
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You can actually get raised levels of Nandrolone by sleeping with a pregnant woman apparently as well;)
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Took them two months to strip Lucas Browne of his world title, currently 7 months in with Tyson
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Batman
Took them two months to strip Lucas Browne of his world title, currently 7 months in with Tyson
Only 15 months after the test result.....
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Ron Swanson
Maybe we should consider the possibility Tyson is pregnant. That would explain the elevated levels. After all, that is why some communist countries would impregnate their female athletes and only later abort the pregnancies. Maybe he can write a book "Training advantages of pregnancy-by Tyson Fury"
is this true?
I wonder who got the job of the impregnator
Yes. Women have higher levels of nandrolone than men generally because it is a precursor of estrogen production. It(nandrolone) spikes after women become pregnant. So female athletes were impregnated, they trained, then after they had their benefits the babies were aborted. The Olympics have been a horror show in so many ways for so long.
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ross
They didnt fail. The levels werent high enough to fail, just raised amounts of a naturally occuring substance.
If he had failed do you really think hed now be THE heavyweight champion of the world? The tests were done last March, over a year ago.
Testosterone is naturally occurring. What is it when you have unnatural levels of testosterone? Don't act dumb, everyone knows the answer to this question.
As for the "high protein diet and exercise", almost every athlete in the world has a high protein diet. It is the first thing that is recommended. When you begin training you diet is adjusted to a certain level of protein(high) fat, and carbs. But these 2 guys have passed tests before suddenly fail. Did they just now begin to eat like men? Because men eat protein. And men train. But these 2 suddenly are different from everyone else even though they eat the same and train like everyone else. Hell, they are even different than they themselves have been. But there's nothing funny about that right?
I don't know why they failed their tests so I am not going to condemn them yet. But defending them blindly is far more absurd because to do so you have to say "I don't care at all about the evidence I support them and I will say whatever I must"
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Ron Swanson
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erics44
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Ron Swanson
Maybe we should consider the possibility Tyson is pregnant. That would explain the elevated levels. After all, that is why some communist countries would impregnate their female athletes and only later abort the pregnancies. Maybe he can write a book "Training advantages of pregnancy-by Tyson Fury"
is this true?
I wonder who got the job of the impregnator
Yes. Women have higher levels of nandrolone than men generally because it is a precursor of estrogen production. It(nandrolone) spikes after women become pregnant. So female athletes were impregnated, they trained, then after they had their benefits the babies were aborted. The Olympics have been a horror show in so many ways for so long.
id love to impregnate some lady athletes
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erics44
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Ron Swanson
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erics44
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Ron Swanson
Maybe we should consider the possibility Tyson is pregnant. That would explain the elevated levels. After all, that is why some communist countries would impregnate their female athletes and only later abort the pregnancies. Maybe he can write a book "Training advantages of pregnancy-by Tyson Fury"
is this true?
I wonder who got the job of the impregnator
Yes. Women have higher levels of nandrolone than men generally because it is a precursor of estrogen production. It(nandrolone) spikes after women become pregnant. So female athletes were impregnated, they trained, then after they had their benefits the babies were aborted. The Olympics have been a horror show in so many ways for so long.
id love to impregnate some lady athletes
Please, no more Ginger people! 😂😂😉
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@Tam Seddon
They were regularly tested last year and I believe at the fake tip offs of Klitschkos team. Hoping to catch him out before he had to face him and inevitably lose. He never wanted to face Tyson but Tyson forced his hand becoming mandatory with two of the belts.
Check out Peters tweet from a couple of months after the test in the news. They were still getting randomly tested but nothing showed up!? If he had tested positive the Klitschko fight would have never happened.
https://twitter.com/peterfury/status/598080946399752192
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I hope you took every one of those responding to Peters tweet to task for insinuating that Fury cant be on PEDs because he's a fat fucker?
Im not sure what that tweet is supposed to prove?
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what does the tweet say, I don't seem to be able to work think link at work
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I hope you took every one of those responding to Peters tweet to task for insinuating that Fury cant be on PEDs because he's a fat fucker?
Im not sure what that tweet is supposed to prove?
Guess he must have gotten those PEDs from James Toney
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Tweet says "I see Robert smith of the BBBOC keep sending the dope testing people on our door. Tested & Clean. "
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Even if you take the tweet as gospel (I almost punched myself in the face for saying that) it 'proves' that up until May Tyson was clean. No mention of the other 6 months up to the Klitschko fight in which if you're going to do a cycle of something, this would be the time no?
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The test in question was from last March. If they had found him positive they wouldnt just be continuing to randomly test him 2 momths later they would have him in front of a panel banning him.
