Trump wins in Landslide. Here's why:

The corporate-backed media CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CNBC, The Washington Post, The New York Times, are obviously on the most MANIACAL, INCESSANT, DO-OR-DIE, DESPERATE WITCH HUNT that I have EVER seen, their true colors have been utterly exposed, as we ALL ALWAYS KNEW.

they are now day and night engaging in the MOST BIASED, OPENLY PARTIAL, SHAMELESSLY DISHONEST WITCH HUNT of ALL TIME, it boggles the mind.

It can ONLY MEAN they have foreknowledge of Trump's LANDSLIDE SILENT MAJORITY VICTORY and are pulling out all the stops at the Establishment's Marching Orders.

Trump is the LEAST POLITICAL
ESTABLISHMENT you can get and the DONORS AND SPECIAL INTERESTS are gonna LOSE BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. they are now doing EVERYTHING THEY CAN to keep their money. Anyone making the "argument" Trump is establishment is wrong.

INCLUDING ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT SOON.

DONALD MY MAN, DUCK!!!

I would vote for Hitler before Hillary. If someone could please show me a bigger liar I would love to know who it is. If I do vote it will be for Gary Johnson.

I concur. If.....



: GJ

Trump is right on, common sense. That is not fear mongering--- how easy to dismiss his common sense points with "fear mongering" accusations.

The situation IS bad in America. He's telling it like it is. Here's just one example . I've worked and lived in 24 countries in this world. That means that I have seen 24 different airports. The airports that I saw in Malaysia and Korea and even poor countries like Turkey and India are far better equipped and clean and convenient and modern than the third-world shithole airports here in the United States. Donald Trump has traveled around the world, he knows about that stuff. I saw it with my own eyes. The problem is that most Americans have not been in 24 other countries so that they can compare the transit system, the long-distance train system, the airport's, the roads the bridges and tunnels with the dilapidated crap that is here in the United States. What he says is all true and it is sad that Americans dismiss it as fear-mongering when most of them have not even left their little Hometown to venture out to see anything in this world outside of America with their own eyes for more than a 4 Day Holiday.

You're a fool if you don't vote.

I am no fool if I don't vote.

Trump has given up. He's the guy who bullshited his way into the interview and fogs over when they describe the 'job' to him :kar:

btw Isis got some of it's ass kicked this weekend. Don't care who takes credit it's just good to know ;D.

Trump has given up. ***UTTER NONSENSE


He's the guy who bullshited his way into the interview ***EVERYTHING HE HAS SAID IS TRUE



and fogs over when they describe the 'job' to him ***UTTERLY INVALID ANALOGY

not sure what you're smoking .....

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Why, who is so important to you out of those two absolute plants you have to chose between?

The Don ,
will be his new title.

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The Don ,
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It will be.

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You're a fool if you don't vote.

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Why, who is so important to you out of those two absolute plants you have to chose between?

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Trump won more votes than ANY REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IN U.S. HISTORY my friend. The "plants" were Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush and the other 16 contestants he annihilated.

The lame two party system wants you to pass on your right vote.
They want you to feel so disenfranchised that you won't participate in the democratic system.
The only way to achieve change is to participate. Going online and crying like a baby about how no candidate represents you is a cop out. Find the person who best represents your needs, wants & hopes, and vote for them.
They don't have to be a democrat or republican.
If neither of those two options appeal to you, there are other options. There are other parties. By voting for one of the others, you help raise that party's profile and may help them to achieve official party status, get them airtime in the official debates, and receive federal funding. This kind of voting help communicate the need for a change in the current system.
It's hell of a lot more effective than wasting your opportunity to contribute by not voting at all.

People have died so we could vote, we owe it at least for them to use that right.

Oh yes oh yes I will certainly be exercising my rights and voting for Donald J Trump

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

The lame two party system wants you to pass on your right vote.
They want you to feel so disenfranchised that you won't participate in the democratic system.
The only way to achieve change is to participate. Going online and crying like a baby about how no candidate represents you is a cop out. Find the person who best represents your needs, wants & hopes, and vote for them.
They don't have to be a democrat or republican.
If neither of those two options appeal to you, there are other options. There are other parties. By voting for one of the others, you help raise that party's profile and may help them to achieve official party status, get them airtime in the official debates, and receive federal funding. This kind of voting help communicate the need for a change in the current system.
It's hell of a lot more effective than wasting your opportunity to contribute by not voting at all.

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Rocco what do you care, I've travelled the world in a uniform and i doubt you have ever worn a boyscout uniform but if you did I bet you got your basket making badge.

You call me a xenophobe but I've been hugged and cheered in four different countries for helping them. Rocco, I give you permission not to vote this year. The rank and file of the USMC, army etc are scared shirtless of Clinton, Obama handed out pinkslips to sergeants and others while we were deployed. Can you imagine one day your getting shot at the next day the president is saying we don't need you many more.So please Rocco, you say you care about the military so vote for trump we need him

Like or hate him Trump is his own man not a career politician, just a business man.
Clinton has the backing of large companies so she may be open to be manipulated by theses party's.
Trump has shocked the establishment he is a serious contender to be the next president.!
He has been demonized by the media why because they fear him he is not one of their own.
The thing is all the other contenders fell by the way side, he kicked there ass, and he looks like he will kick Clinton's ass, so much for the guy on the outside looking in.
Trump will win people want change all them career politicians are as sick as pigs.

Sick as pigs too are CNN CNBC MSNBC ABC NY TIMES WASHINGTON POST VOX ETC. SICK SICK CLINTON-SHILLS

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

The lame two party system wants you to pass on your right vote.
They want you to feel so disenfranchised that you won't participate in the democratic system.
The only way to achieve change is to participate. Going online and crying like a baby about how no candidate represents you is a cop out. Find the person who best represents your needs, wants & hopes, and vote for them.
They don't have to be a democrat or republican.
If neither of those two options appeal to you, there are other options. There are other parties. By voting for one of the others, you help raise that party's profile and may help them to achieve official party status, get them airtime in the official debates, and receive federal funding. This kind of voting help communicate the need for a change in the current system.
It's hell of a lot more effective than wasting your opportunity to contribute by not voting at all.

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Rocco what do you care, I've travelled the world in a uniform and i doubt you have ever worn a boyscout uniform but if you did I bet you got your basket making badge.

You call me a xenophobe but I've been hugged and cheered in four different countries for helping them. Rocco, I give you permission not to vote this year. The rank and file of the USMC, army etc are scared shirtless of Clinton, Obama handed out pinkslips to sergeants and others while we were deployed. Can you imagine one day your getting shot at the next day the president is saying we don't need you many more.So please Rocco, you say you care about the military so vote for trump we need him

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Who is this idiot and what is he going off about?

My post is about the importance of taking an active roll in a democracy by voting.

Are you shell shocked?

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

The lame two party system wants you to pass on your right vote.
They want you to feel so disenfranchised that you won't participate in the democratic system.

(Yeah I used to say that, but I grew into the knowledge of how limited the POTUS is. And how our votes don't nominate advisors (foreign/domestic policies), FCC chairman (allowed monopolization of our airwaves), FDA regulators (that usher in drugs with endless side effects, food made with hundreds of chemicals),
Oh and a banking system which the Prez controls nothing. Nada jack. Not inflation, depression let alone interest rates.

The only way to achieve change is to participate.
I did. Like those who taught me when I was in my 20's. Each election a different candidate pushes for the same policies , same talking points as the one before. Chairmen of Republican/Democratic Party determines the platform, not our votes.. Does your vote elect RNC?DNC head? Just a question.
See to me that matters when that chick stepped down from the DNC for pushing Clinton, Anti-Sanders- We only learned it because outside forces brought it to light. Rocco--did You vote in the RNC chairman who stated in 2012 elections...to change rules to take delegates and give them to whom he chose aka Romney? Then in 2016 he decided the opposite. Your vote is diluted. That is IMO. It doesnt have weight like it use to, how else did delegates get stolen from Ron Paul by RNC head...changing rules?



Going online and crying like a baby about how no candidate represents you is a cop out.
That is your opinion. Kinda like me saying.... critizing people for not voting for a candidate you have yet to endorse... is like an angry bitch mouthing off cause that's all a bitch does;accuse.

Find the person who best represents your needs, wants & hopes, and vote for them.
They don't have to be a democrat or republican.

I understand your point. I did that in 2008-voted Independent. Voted write-in 2010 midterm, which rules discounted 2010 vote because the write-ins had to go through hoola hoops to be counted.

If neither of those two options appeal to you, there are other options. There are other parties.

You are correct, I was asked to be a delegate for the Wisconsin Constitution Party by Mr. Christenson candidate and president Jerry Broitzman, unfortunatley there is no media that allots for Constitutionalist, libertarians, Green Party, let alone Independents. Unfortunately there are 2 votes. One is popular the other you know is electoral. Voting neither Dem/Repub is a vote for one's conscious, not a serious vote to elect.

By voting for one of the others, you help raise that party's profile and may help them to achieve official party status, get them airtime in the official debates, and receive federal funding. This kind of voting help communicate the need for a change in the current system.
It's hell of a lot more effective than wasting your opportunity to contribute by not voting at all.

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Your words are wonderful, in theory. But in practice? Waste is not when you blog, or write books as I have done. Having Book signings, participating in lectures, grassroots organizing like I have.

We see the same thing from a different perspective. I didn't change my thinking, I simply grew into understanding the power of advisors, the power of lobbyists, the power of a life time nominee supreme court justiced picked on ideology liberalism or conservatism.
1976 Carter said rich are getting richer, poor getting poorer. 2016 same campaign, different person saying it.
1980 Reagan & Bush said Terrorism is a priority, slogan: No negotiations. 2016 Terrorism is in everybody's backyard. Same slogan..different candidate.
1992- Newt Gingrich Revolution- Immigration is a serious issue to be confronted. 2016 same campaign statement, different person.

As pointed in the central bank thread..it was unanimous...a few people run our world as we know it.
Rockerfellers, Duponts, Koch Brothers...and Rothschild said it best " Permit me to issue and control a nation's money supply...and I care NOT who makes it laws.

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

The lame two party system wants you to pass on your right vote.
They want you to feel so disenfranchised that you won't participate in the democratic system.
The only way to achieve change is to participate. Going online and crying like a baby about how no candidate represents you is a cop out. Find the person who best represents your needs, wants & hopes, and vote for them.
They don't have to be a democrat or republican.
If neither of those two options appeal to you, there are other options. There are other parties. By voting for one of the others, you help raise that party's profile and may help them to achieve official party status, get them airtime in the official debates, and receive federal funding. This kind of voting help communicate the need for a change in the current system.
It's hell of a lot more effective than wasting your opportunity to contribute by not voting at all.

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Rocco what do you care, I've travelled the world in a uniform and i doubt you have ever worn a boyscout uniform but if you did I bet you got your basket making badge.

You call me a xenophobe but I've been hugged and cheered in four different countries for helping them. Rocco, I give you permission not to vote this year. The rank and file of the USMC, army etc are scared shirtless of Clinton, Obama handed out pinkslips to sergeants and others while we were deployed. Can you imagine one day your getting shot at the next day the president is saying we don't need you many more.So please Rocco, you say you care about the military so vote for trump we need him

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Who is this idiot and what is he going off about?

My post is about the importance of taking an active roll in a democracy by voting.

Are you shell shocked?

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We haven't used shell shocked since ww1 or was that the ww2 term I forget

Shillary The Shill Sodom Klit-Kunt to have a ~SHAKIN' SEIZURE~ "LIVE, ON STAGE" A SHIT-DIARRHEA ATTACK OF EPIC KUMBAYA PROPORTIONS, AND TRUMP WILL ROMP 'N ROLL ALL OVER IN RAUCOUS LAUGHTER!

IT WILL BE A REAL "'~shitter

BwwaaaAAAAHAHAHAAAAA!

for Shit-lary


BbwwwaaaAAAAHAHHAAAAA!!!

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Shillary The Shill Sodom Klit-Kunt to have a ~SHAKIN' SEIZURE~ "LIVE, ON STAGE" A SHIT-DIARRHEA ATTACK OF EPIC KUMBAYA PROPORTIONS, AND TRUMP WILL ROMP 'N ROLL ALL OVER IN RAUCOUS LAUGHTER!

IT WILL BE A REAL "'~shitter

BwwaaaAAAAHAHAHAAAAA!

for Shit-lary


BbwwwaaaAAAAHAHHAAAAA!!!

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Sayith the poet...BrockSpeare

She shitteth me.
She shitteth me not.
She shitteth, allith the dayeth...
:LOS:

Hillary, according to one recent poll has 56 percent of the millennial vote versus 20 percent for trump. The millenials probably think we still have a democracy

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

The lame two party system wants you to pass on your right vote.
They want you to feel so disenfranchised that you won't participate in the democratic system.

(Yeah I used to say that, but I grew into the knowledge of how limited the POTUS is. And how our votes don't nominate advisors (foreign/domestic policies), FCC chairman (allowed monopolization of our airwaves), FDA regulators (that usher in drugs with endless side effects, food made with hundreds of chemicals),
Oh and a banking system which the Prez controls nothing. Nada jack. Not inflation, depression let alone interest rates.

The only way to achieve change is to participate.
I did. Like those who taught me when I was in my 20's. Each election a different candidate pushes for the same policies , same talking points as the one before. Chairmen of Republican/Democratic Party determines the platform, not our votes.. Does your vote elect RNC?DNC head? Just a question.
See to me that matters when that chick stepped down from the DNC for pushing Clinton, Anti-Sanders- We only learned it because outside forces brought it to light. Rocco--did You vote in the RNC chairman who stated in 2012 elections...to change rules to take delegates and give them to whom he chose aka Romney? Then in 2016 he decided the opposite. Your vote is diluted. That is IMO. It doesnt have weight like it use to, how else did delegates get stolen from Ron Paul by RNC head...changing rules?



Going online and crying like a baby about how no candidate represents you is a cop out.
That is your opinion. Kinda like me saying.... critizing people for not voting for a candidate you have yet to endorse... is like an angry bitch mouthing off cause that's all a bitch does;accuse.

Find the person who best represents your needs, wants & hopes, and vote for them.
They don't have to be a democrat or republican.

I understand your point. I did that in 2008-voted Independent. Voted write-in 2010 midterm, which rules discounted 2010 vote because the write-ins had to go through hoola hoops to be counted.

If neither of those two options appeal to you, there are other options. There are other parties.

You are correct, I was asked to be a delegate for the Wisconsin Constitution Party by Mr. Christenson candidate and president Jerry Broitzman, unfortunatley there is no media that allots for Constitutionalist, libertarians, Green Party, let alone Independents. Unfortunately there are 2 votes. One is popular the other you know is electoral. Voting neither Dem/Repub is a vote for one's conscious, not a serious vote to elect.

By voting for one of the others, you help raise that party's profile and may help them to achieve official party status, get them airtime in the official debates, and receive federal funding. This kind of voting help communicate the need for a change in the current system.
It's hell of a lot more effective than wasting your opportunity to contribute by not voting at all.

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Your words are wonderful, in theory. But in practice? Waste is not when you blog, or write books as I have done. Having Book signings, participating in lectures, grassroots organizing like I have.

We see the same thing from a different perspective. I didn't change my thinking, I simply grew into understanding the power of advisors, the power of lobbyists, the power of a life time nominee supreme court justiced picked on ideology liberalism or conservatism.
1976 Carter said rich are getting richer, poor getting poorer. 2016 same campaign, different person saying it.
1980 Reagan & Bush said Terrorism is a priority, slogan: No negotiations. 2016 Terrorism is in everybody's backyard. Same slogan..different candidate.
1992- Newt Gingrich Revolution- Immigration is a serious issue to be confronted. 2016 same campaign statement, different person.

As pointed in the central bank thread..it was unanimous...a few people run our world as we know it.
Rockerfellers, Duponts, Koch Brothers...and Rothschild said it best " Permit me to issue and control a nation's money supply...and I care NOT who makes it laws.

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So... Your advice to achieving the needed change is...?

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Hillary, according to one recent poll has 56 percent of the millennial vote versus 20 percent for trump. The millenials probably think we still have a democracy

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HahaHHAHAHA!!!!!
Pathetic!
You will never have a democracy if you don't participate.
Don't like the way the game is played? Change it--you bunch of cry babies.

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Hillary, according to one recent poll has 56 percent of the millennial vote versus 20 percent for trump. The millenials probably think we still have a democracy

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HahaHHAHAHA!!!!!
Pathetic!
You will never have a democracy if you don't participate.
Don't like the way the game is played? Change it--you bunch of cry babies.

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Idiot you missed the whole point. We lost our democracy because of money. The people with the money pick who we will vote for. It's a fixed system. It's nothing to do with voting it's about campaign finance reform

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

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Originally Posted by walrus

Hillary, according to one recent poll has 56 percent of the millennial vote versus 20 percent for trump. The millenials probably think we still have a democracy

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HahaHHAHAHA!!!!!
Pathetic!
You will never have a democracy if you don't participate.
Don't like the way the game is played? Change it--you bunch of cry babies.

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Idiot you missed the whole point. We lost our democracy because of money. The people with the money pick who we will vote for. It's a fixed system. It's nothing to do with voting it's about campaign finance reform

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YOU missed the point.
The system isn't set in stone. If you want it to change you have to MAKE IT change. BUT...it will take EFFORT and DETERMINATION -- something you slack jawed donkeys are not willing to even try commit yourselves to.
Instead you just cry about it online on your fat asses.
You get the government you allow.
You got what you deserve.

Wtf are you talking about. You probably don't even now the Supreme Court ruling at the heart of the issue. And I am trying to do something about it. Send Trump to Washington to piss of the powers that be. If the republic wanted send a message we would just need to clean house instead incumbents have a 70 percent advantage. We could take this shit back but I think we've become apathetic. We should not be having lifelong politicians it's not what our founding fathers intended.

I think "MILLENIAL" hit a raw nerve there.

MoooooooooWAWAWAWOWOW

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

The lame two party system wants you to pass on your right vote.
They want you to feel so disenfranchised that you won't participate in the democratic system.

(Yeah I used to say that, but I grew into the knowledge of how limited the POTUS is. And how our votes don't nominate advisors (foreign/domestic policies), FCC chairman (allowed monopolization of our airwaves), FDA regulators (that usher in drugs with endless side effects, food made with hundreds of chemicals),
Oh and a banking system which the Prez controls nothing. Nada jack. Not inflation, depression let alone interest rates.

The only way to achieve change is to participate.
I did. Like those who taught me when I was in my 20's. Each election a different candidate pushes for the same policies , same talking points as the one before. Chairmen of Republican/Democratic Party determines the platform, not our votes.. Does your vote elect RNC?DNC head? Just a question.
See to me that matters when that chick stepped down from the DNC for pushing Clinton, Anti-Sanders- We only learned it because outside forces brought it to light. Rocco--did You vote in the RNC chairman who stated in 2012 elections...to change rules to take delegates and give them to whom he chose aka Romney? Then in 2016 he decided the opposite. Your vote is diluted. That is IMO. It doesnt have weight like it use to, how else did delegates get stolen from Ron Paul by RNC head...changing rules?



Going online and crying like a baby about how no candidate represents you is a cop out.
That is your opinion. Kinda like me saying.... critizing people for not voting for a candidate you have yet to endorse... is like an angry bitch mouthing off cause that's all a bitch does;accuse.

Find the person who best represents your needs, wants & hopes, and vote for them.
They don't have to be a democrat or republican.

I understand your point. I did that in 2008-voted Independent. Voted write-in 2010 midterm, which rules discounted 2010 vote because the write-ins had to go through hoola hoops to be counted.

If neither of those two options appeal to you, there are other options. There are other parties.

You are correct, I was asked to be a delegate for the Wisconsin Constitution Party by Mr. Christenson candidate and president Jerry Broitzman, unfortunatley there is no media that allots for Constitutionalist, libertarians, Green Party, let alone Independents. Unfortunately there are 2 votes. One is popular the other you know is electoral. Voting neither Dem/Repub is a vote for one's conscious, not a serious vote to elect.

By voting for one of the others, you help raise that party's profile and may help them to achieve official party status, get them airtime in the official debates, and receive federal funding. This kind of voting help communicate the need for a change in the current system.
It's hell of a lot more effective than wasting your opportunity to contribute by not voting at all.

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Your words are wonderful, in theory. But in practice? Waste is not when you blog, or write books as I have done. Having Book signings, participating in lectures, grassroots organizing like I have.

We see the same thing from a different perspective. I didn't change my thinking, I simply grew into understanding the power of advisors, the power of lobbyists, the power of a life time nominee supreme court justiced picked on ideology liberalism or conservatism.
1976 Carter said rich are getting richer, poor getting poorer. 2016 same campaign, different person saying it.
1980 Reagan & Bush said Terrorism is a priority, slogan: No negotiations. 2016 Terrorism is in everybody's backyard. Same slogan..different candidate.
1992- Newt Gingrich Revolution- Immigration is a serious issue to be confronted. 2016 same campaign statement, different person.

As pointed in the central bank thread..it was unanimous...a few people run our world as we know it.
Rockerfellers, Duponts, Koch Brothers...and Rothschild said it best " Permit me to issue and control a nation's money supply...and I care NOT who makes it laws.

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Top quality post

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Wtf are you talking about. You probably don't even now the Supreme Court ruling at the heart of the issue. And I am trying to do something about it. Send Trump to Washington to piss of the powers that be. If the republic wanted send a message we would just need to clean house instead incumbents have a 70 percent advantage. We could take this shit back but I think we've become apathetic. We should not be having lifelong politicians it's not what our founding fathers intended.

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Do you think about what you type? Do you even read what you write? You say you can't vote for change because the system is rigged--but you're voting for Trump to force change.!!?!???
You think you can achieve change, but believe that you're too apathetic--and you just bitch about it online instead of working for it.
You think money runs the country but you want a sociopathic 5 times bankrupted narcissist millionaire to be the leader of it.
No wonder the nation is fucked. You're probably the smart one in your circle of family and friends.
Good luck!

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

The lame two party system wants you to pass on your right vote.
They want you to feel so disenfranchised that you won't participate in the democratic system.

(Yeah I used to say that, but I grew into the knowledge of how limited the POTUS is. And how our votes don't nominate advisors (foreign/domestic policies), FCC chairman (allowed monopolization of our airwaves), FDA regulators (that usher in drugs with endless side effects, food made with hundreds of chemicals),
Oh and a banking system which the Prez controls nothing. Nada jack. Not inflation, depression let alone interest rates.

The only way to achieve change is to participate.
I did. Like those who taught me when I was in my 20's. Each election a different candidate pushes for the same policies , same talking points as the one before. Chairmen of Republican/Democratic Party determines the platform, not our votes.. Does your vote elect RNC?DNC head? Just a question.
See to me that matters when that chick stepped down from the DNC for pushing Clinton, Anti-Sanders- We only learned it because outside forces brought it to light. Rocco--did You vote in the RNC chairman who stated in 2012 elections...to change rules to take delegates and give them to whom he chose aka Romney? Then in 2016 he decided the opposite. Your vote is diluted. That is IMO. It doesnt have weight like it use to, how else did delegates get stolen from Ron Paul by RNC head...changing rules?



Going online and crying like a baby about how no candidate represents you is a cop out.
That is your opinion. Kinda like me saying.... critizing people for not voting for a candidate you have yet to endorse... is like an angry bitch mouthing off cause that's all a bitch does;accuse.

Find the person who best represents your needs, wants & hopes, and vote for them.
They don't have to be a democrat or republican.

I understand your point. I did that in 2008-voted Independent. Voted write-in 2010 midterm, which rules discounted 2010 vote because the write-ins had to go through hoola hoops to be counted.

If neither of those two options appeal to you, there are other options. There are other parties.

You are correct, I was asked to be a delegate for the Wisconsin Constitution Party by Mr. Christenson candidate and president Jerry Broitzman, unfortunatley there is no media that allots for Constitutionalist, libertarians, Green Party, let alone Independents. Unfortunately there are 2 votes. One is popular the other you know is electoral. Voting neither Dem/Repub is a vote for one's conscious, not a serious vote to elect.

By voting for one of the others, you help raise that party's profile and may help them to achieve official party status, get them airtime in the official debates, and receive federal funding. This kind of voting help communicate the need for a change in the current system.
It's hell of a lot more effective than wasting your opportunity to contribute by not voting at all.

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Your words are wonderful, in theory. But in practice? Waste is not when you blog, or write books as I have done. Having Book signings, participating in lectures, grassroots organizing like I have.

We see the same thing from a different perspective. I didn't change my thinking, I simply grew into understanding the power of advisors, the power of lobbyists, the power of a life time nominee supreme court justiced picked on ideology liberalism or conservatism.
1976 Carter said rich are getting richer, poor getting poorer. 2016 same campaign, different person saying it.
1980 Reagan & Bush said Terrorism is a priority, slogan: No negotiations. 2016 Terrorism is in everybody's backyard. Same slogan..different candidate.
1992- Newt Gingrich Revolution- Immigration is a serious issue to be confronted. 2016 same campaign statement, different person.

As pointed in the central bank thread..it was unanimous...a few people run our world as we know it.
Rockerfellers, Duponts, Koch Brothers...and Rothschild said it best " Permit me to issue and control a nation's money supply...and I care NOT who makes it laws.

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Top quality post

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It's not top quality. It's lazy whiner bullshit.
Save your once great country you sad sacks.

Dude I think you are a little concrete. I meant the country has become apathetic and accepting of the process. I don't see a lot of outrage being expressed. It seems people are quite happy to put Hillary and Bill back in power and if she's still able to she will probably be in for eight years. It's just a continuation of the same old same old. I'm talking about changing the system of money that puts the candidates in the fore front. Maybe people actually like it but the sphere of influence and access to the president will only get smaller with Clinton in. I'm not talking about the vote Rocco shit why do I even bother with you I'm not a fist grade teacher.

You are the definition of apathy--and you don't even see it.
Again, you'll get the government you deserve.

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You are the definition of apathy--and you don't even see it.
Again, you'll get the government you deserve.

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Honestly Rocco you sound like a twelve year old. You have no clue. Citizens United fucked us over with that Supreme Court ruling. I don't like how the shit works but maybe I'm wrong, maybe the people aren't pathetic but they think it is proper to continue to increase the power of money and one percent of the population. I just don't think it's the way to go. If you are for it more power to you it's a free country

Trump Victory in shocking landslide.

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

You are the definition of apathy--and you don't even see it.
Again, you'll get the government you deserve.

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Honestly Rocco you sound like a twelve year old. You have no clue. Citizens United fucked us over with that Supreme Court ruling. I don't like how the shit works but maybe I'm wrong, maybe the people aren't pathetic but they think it is proper to continue to increase the power of money and one percent of the population. I just don't think it's the way to go. If you are for it more power to you it's a free country

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Boo hoo!
Poor USA... Worlds greatest nation of slacker cry baby sucks.

Donald J. LANDSLIDE

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

You are the definition of apathy--and you don't even see it.
Again, you'll get the government you deserve.

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Honestly Rocco you sound like a twelve year old. You have no clue. Citizens United fucked us over with that Supreme Court ruling. I don't like how the shit works but maybe I'm wrong, maybe the people aren't pathetic but they think it is proper to continue to increase the power of money and one percent of the population. I just don't think it's the way to go. If you are for it more power to you it's a free country

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Boo hoo!
Poor USA... Worlds greatest nation of slacker cry baby sucks.

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Ha ha good talk rocco