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Your Nation's worst Drug problem(s)
National center for health, to CDC show that
Prescription Drug deaths have risen every year since Y2K.
Pills from street to pharmaceutical has been an issue in the states for decades.
Crack use in America peaked early 1980-1995 with incarceration as the best resolution.
Now Heroine has risen in Small towns to suburbs. Politicians are requesting tax payer dollars to fund rehabilitation, not incarceration.
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Acording to the federal Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, heroin users skyrocketed from about 373,000 in 2007 to 669,000 in 2012, and the number of those with heroin "dependence or abuse" more than doubled from 2002 to 2012, jumping from about 214,000 to 467,000. A recent report commissioned by the Office of National Drug Control Policy and prepared by the Rand Corp. says that in 2010 there were closer to 1.5 million "chronic heroin users" in the U.S.
Is there drug use, overdose or death rampant in your city, state, country?
Has your position changed on dealing with illicit drug use?
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Tobacco, sugar, alcohol, and saturated fats kill more than all illegal and abused drugs combined.
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Gotta be alcohol where I am from, (erdington, birmingham)
Having said that though the amount of cocaine in people shove up their nostrils is quite frightening, definitely more people on that than 10 years ago.
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Cigarettes and alcohol are pretty deadly and even deadlier in combination. They are cheap and readily available on any street corner. In a way I am glad that those are the only real menaces as I would hate to see junkies and speed freaks all over the place. People are bad enough on the coffee!
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In prisons it is the new legal highs which they are licking up in the letters.
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Prescriptions, Heroin, and I would venture to guess Methamphetamine would be 3rd.
Illegal drugs that are NOT an issue Marijuana and Moonshine top the list
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I do understand why people do drugs, we live in a jail, people who dont get any futher stays in the same rented apartment, working to pay their loans, they cant go anywhere, stuck with it, do drugs to escape the scene. i dont blame them i would too if i was in that situation.
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This is my two hippies i really look up to. They call us misfits, they later became addicted of heroin, broke into cars and took the stereo and sold, they had to steal 10 car stereos to earn a days trip on heroin, rough life. Swedish tv followed them on the streets and made a documentary about these two, they are 17 year olds in this clip. one died in OD, they other one is still making music.
https://youtu.be/XG9wJ7XVhhQ?t=18
https://youtu.be/6uCBZIUuQbQ?t=828
https://youtu.be/Pe8aAhTUqVg?t=1780
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The Ripple man. The Ripple. Locally we have drive thru beer and daiquiri shops on the same corners as Taco Bell. Alcohol is everywhere. Seems Heroin is on the up also with more arrests. Herb is around. I heard.
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When I was 20 something and asked why smoke marijuana, your problems don't go away.
My response was simple, I liked getting high.
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SlimTrae
When I was 20 something and asked why smoke marijuana, your problems don't go away.
My response was simple, I liked getting high.
And that is something that should not be illegal....people drink for the same reason
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SlimTrae
When I was 20 something and asked why smoke marijuana, your problems don't go away.
My response was simple, I liked getting high.
I like the freedom of smoking weed. The Government is not your Momma. Make drugs legal is the only way to control the problem.
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mrbig1
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SlimTrae
When I was 20 something and asked why smoke marijuana, your problems don't go away.
My response was simple, I liked getting high.
I like the freedom of smoking weed. The Government is not your Momma. Make drugs legal is the only way to control the problem.
That is like saying make killing legal, like the purge.
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Master
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mrbig1
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
When I was 20 something and asked why smoke marijuana, your problems don't go away.
My response was simple, I liked getting high.
I like the freedom of smoking weed. The Government is not your Momma. Make drugs legal is the only way to control the problem.
That is like saying make killing legal, like the purge.
Ummmm, no not really Master. I believe you should watch Ken Burns' Prohibition and see what happens when there's a massive demand for something and those in power say "No, we're not going to allow you to have that"....well, let me show you actually....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPaHjwL482M
Prohibition, be it for alcohol or drugs allows for guys who aren't so nice to get propped up guys like Al Capone, Pablo Escobar, El Chapo....those folks had a lot of blood on their hands and beyond that the police put away a lot of people and ruined a lot of lives and for what? Who the fuck is the government to tell me what I can and can't put in my body? I can drink beer and liquor literally until I die but I can't smoke 1 joint? Ridiculous.
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Last time I had any weed was over 12 months ago, I've never been a fan of the stuff and only had a bit because my mate had some.
I've probably had it about 4 or 5 times in the last 10 years...If I could walk into the co-op and buy some then I'm pretty sure I would.
That's just me though, I'm a bit of a idiot
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Batman
Last time I had any weed was over 12 months ago, I've never been a fan of the stuff and only had a bit because my mate had some.
I've probably had it about 4 or 5 times in the last 10 years...If I could walk into the co-op and buy some then I'm pretty sure I would.
That's just me though, I'm a bit of a idiot
To each their own.
I think that it just doesn't make financial sense to prohibit marijuana...look at the money spent and lives lost/ruined in the War on Drugs vs how much the government could rake in on taxes in having it legalized....Washington, Colorado, Oregon, they are extremely well off in terms of state taxes now
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The one thing that is imo bad about marijuana is the use of blunt wraps. Good green mother earth...then many wrap in toxic tobacco wraps.
I think this or next generation will inherit cancer.
I am guilty of it...but i foolishly blamed the lack of good weed making it to Wisconsin. Ganga Green I had in Atlanta. .one hit..whew!!! Had to back up off it.
Now they got these fruity flavors ...just killing the taste of good green. In just paper. .. You dont have to light it...just a gentle pull ....mmmmm 'dis dat shat!!! Fire it up!
Grape blunt cherry blunt watermelon..what next? Chicken and dressing blunt? Get high and satisfy your munchies all in one hit I guess...:stonedsmilie:
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I worked for many years with addicts. People start for different reasons but for some it becomes an all encompassing thing effecting all aspects of life ah I'll talk on it more later I'm tired
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I dont mind admitting I was and still am afraid to try the hard stuff. Cocaine, Heroine. Never seen acid, LSD and those photos of meth mouth users? Damn ...
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My gripe is with so many commercials geared toward heroine users.
We have a campaign add where some candidate is accused of not supporting heroine treatment programs. Treat it like crack. Incarceration.
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SlimTrae
My gripe is with so many commercials geared toward heroine users.
We have a campaign add where some candidate is accused of not supporting heroine treatment programs. Treat it like crack. Incarceration.
I think that's where I draw the line when you hear the 'legalize drugs' line in regards to actual drug effects and crime revolving around those two specifically. I've seen people beat to a pulp for street level rocks or a quick fix. I have not seen two stoners ever come to blows over a nickel bag of bud. Though there are those who treat it as such :-X. Edibles as far as pot can be very similar to lsd in quantity. I'm on the side of treatment rather than incarceration and asinine mandatory minimums in some possessions as with low level it is really just delaying a criminal act and addiction reboot. The irony is I know someone who kicked heroin and simply described withdrawal as a prison cell. Honestly with acid I wouldn't recommend that to my enemies and can have the highest high or the most terrifying low.
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I agree. I admit I am heartbroken over so many who went to jail for crack. No politicians uttered. treatment.
So many robberies as you say beatdowns just to answer that raging addiction. Lives families communities ultimately cities brought to heel as a result.
2001 ..we witnessed our government allocate 43 million to the Taliban to curb cultivating opium.
Our government called it a success. One year later we learned Taliban murdered their competition. ..now that drug has gained easy access to users globally.
And quietly suburbs..... nation wide ravaged by the ease to get it. Now....we must look at illicit drug use with passion.
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Slim you use a bowl, bong, or vape?
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El Kabong
Slim you use a bowl, bong, or vape?
LOL! I retired from my wooden guitar shaped bowl an tops. ..but if I ever launch my business to become self employed full time..
Will unretire......Got to try that vaporizer.
Heard 100% approval rating
Edit.... Not tops.... Wow it's been that long...came in orange cover....forgot.
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
I agree. I admit I am heartbroken over so many who went to jail for crack. No politicians uttered. treatment.
So many robberies as you say beatdowns just to answer that raging addiction. Lives families communities ultimately cities brought to heel as a result.
2001 ..we witnessed our government allocate 43 million to the Taliban to curb cultivating opium.
Our government called it a success. One year later we learned Taliban murdered their competition. ..now that drug has gained easy access to users globally.
And quietly suburbs..... nation wide ravaged by the ease to get it. Now....we must look at illicit drug use with passion.
At least a first step with long term payoff. Now if you violate terms or fail to participate in ordered treatment then you burn the bridge. Its almost a chicken or the egg syndrome with some drugs and crime.
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Slim you use a bowl, bong, or vape?
LOL! I retired from my wooden guitar shaped bowl an tops. ..but if I ever launch my business to become self employed full time..
Will unretire......Got to try that vaporizer.
Heard 100% approval rating
Edit.... Not tops.... Wow it's been that long...came in orange cover....forgot.
Zig Zags ;D
If its not a bong it's just wrong!
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LMAO! Zig Zag.......slow burning.
I stopped using tops long ago.. One day I had rolled a fat one...phone rang ..landline no cell early 90s for me.
When I got back to my room: the joint didn't go out.:o It kept burning.:mad:
Long ass piece of ash connected to a tiny piece of burning tops.
The room got high without me and it was my last joint. Damn them can't-put-it out tops.:mad:
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SlimTrae
LMAO! Zig Zag.......slow burning.
I stopped using tops long ago.. One day I had rolled a fat one...phone rang ..landline no cell early 90s for me.
When I got back to my room: the joint didn't go out.:o It kept burning.:mad:
Long ass piece of ash connected to a tiny piece of burning tops.
The room got high without me and it was my last joint. Damn them can't-put-it out tops.:mad:
Only paper I used were Ezwiders. The things were as big as bedsheets ;D and I have the finger dexterity of a sedated guerilla so I needed all the help I could find. Never big on papers, just seemed to get the room high as you say. Stuck to a simple boxed one hitter or a binger when the clouds were plentiful :-X
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Legal drugs must be pretty high up there. Things like vicodin are very addictive and there is a lot of money to be made in products like those. Apparently white housewives are losing years of life expectancy in the states because they have become legal junkies. I can't say I blame a lot of people for turning to substances. In an insane system I imagine people need to live in a distorted reality just to cope. I blame central banks and television for the problem. Drugs are a means of control and the system knows that people popping pills and drinking is a way to stop them thinking. That and sports and dumb reality television. Baaah baaah baaah.
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If we put one dealer in prison five more will take his place and the problem is still there. One dealer kills another because he's on his street corner. If all drugs were legal there would be no black market no dealer and no murder. Other places has tried it and it works. In the U.S. we have more people in prison than any other country in the world. 62% of them for soft drugs. Who are these people. These are people who's only crime was being poor. Now we have prison for profit where the rich get richer. By putting people in prison is a money maker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Qpa40m3DA
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Originally Posted by
mrbig1
If we put one dealer in prison five more will take his place and the problem is still there. One dealer kills another because he's on his street corner. If all drugs were legal there would be no black market no dealer and no murder. Other places has tried it and it works. In the U.S. we have more people in prison than any other country in the world. 62% of them for soft drugs. Who are these people. These are people who's only crime was being poor. Now we have prison for profit where the rich get richer. By putting people in prison is a money maker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Qpa40m3DA
I guess the black market is still thriving even in legal states. Growers and dealers to to apply for a lot of paper and pay taxes. Not saying it hasn't hurt the illegal side but it hasn't disapeared
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Wrexham was in bad way people off there head's on legal highs.
Till these highs became illegal people wondering around like extras off the walking dead.
Theses people were a bloody pain in the ass, people would not go to the town centre, because they were being asked for money by theses people.
They were very aggressive one asked me you got any change I said yes can I have it I said fuck off.