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Frank "i'll never work with Eubank again" Warren has announced this. All the bullshit about fighting Golovkin and the like yet Jr is sticking to defending his British title. Not sure how turning down millions at the 02 to fighting in Cardiff, for a fraction of that, in front of one man and a dog makes sense but it clearly does to them.
The poster has it 2nd billing to Liam Williams-Ahmet Patterson (good fight).
I haven't seen it anywhere , but does anyone know how much the purse bid was that Warren put in?
I'm really curious to find out how much Junior will be getting compared to the £3 million that Brook is getting in his place to fight GGG.
I heard snr say before he wishes he regrets not winning the british title to keep
maybe that's a motivation
Has junior won the lonsdale belt outright?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Going for the Lonsdale belt outright makes sense but they're so nuts I doubt it. Unless they keep playing the game of - call out world-class bods but fight domestic level, I suppose they can keep that going for another year.
Whatever the purse bids were he'll be getting peanuts compared to what he could have made. Even Billy Joe has said they turned down 900k to face him.
Junior is clearly not ready for world title fights but want the publicity of a world champion.
They put Junior in with Saunders and he came up short, they realised he needed more experience in the bank before they step it up again, he has smashed Spike, almost killed a guy, battered the next and now is fighting to keep the lonsdale belt outright , he is clearly above british level. The amount of money to be made off Junior is a very very large amount they will not take risks until they are sure as can be that he is ready, Junior should fight BJS after this one it will be a good measure to see how much he has learnt since last time, BJS is top euro level at best, GGG is a beast and should not be on the radar until after the Canelo fight. Good luck to Mr langford he is going to need it.
What is really funny is that promoters who hate him still work with him. Hearn wants him smashed to bits by GGG but Junior did not take the bait.
They work with him because they make money off him. They don't want him to lose because he will be of no use to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
What's more funny Is that he turned down £1million to fight for £110k and £3 million plus to fight for peanuts, probably £50-£100k.
So this "Team Eubank master plan " is already about £4 Million down on what he could've been. So he has to earn £4 million just to get to quits! Good luck with that! ;D
But you would think the £1m and £3m fights will still be there for him assuming this British title fight is routine, given BJS's lack of activity and GGG's pound 4 pound status (not overlooking Kell Brook here!!!). So I think in reality he probably hasn't lost these potential paydays, assuming the named opponents can be arsed dealing with the Eubanks in the future!Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraThey work with him because they make money off him. They don't want him to lose because he will be of no use to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
What's more funny Is that he turned down £1million to fight for £110k and £3 million plus to fight for peanuts, probably £50-£100k.
So this "Team Eubank master plan " is already about £4 Million down on what he could've been. So he has to earn £4 million just to get to quits! Good luck with that! ;D
Are those paydays still there? Nowadays you don't get many big Money fights , they're very hard to make. All he has to do is lose to BJS Again and then how does he make those fights ? And even if he does get those paydays, it'll take a couple of years realistically . He could've had that money in the bank and spent the next couple of years making more. Whichever way you look , Team Eubank have put themselves behind the 8 ball and made themselves look pretty stupid in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by The PocketRocketBut you would think the £1m and £3m fights will still be there for him assuming this British title fight is routine, given BJS's lack of activity and GGG's pound 4 pound status (not overlooking Kell Brook here!!!). So I think in reality he probably hasn't lost these potential paydays, assuming the named opponents can be arsed dealing with the Eubanks in the future!Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraThey work with him because they make money off him. They don't want him to lose because he will be of no use to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
What's more funny Is that he turned down £1million to fight for £110k and £3 million plus to fight for peanuts, probably £50-£100k.
So this "Team Eubank master plan " is already about £4 Million down on what he could've been. So he has to earn £4 million just to get to quits! Good luck with that! ;D
Totally right, totally stupid from team Eubank, any loss against GGG would have been 'acceptable' and not affected his future earnings much. Cannot work it out other than EU JR is after Big Brother more than boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraAre those paydays still there? Nowadays you don't get many big Money fights , they're very hard to make. All he has to do is lose to BJS Again and then how does he make those fights ? And even if he does get those paydays, it'll take a couple of years realistically . He could've had that money in the bank and spent the next couple of years making more. Whichever way you look , Team Eubank have put themselves behind the 8 ball and made themselves look pretty stupid in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by The PocketRocketBut you would think the £1m and £3m fights will still be there for him assuming this British title fight is routine, given BJS's lack of activity and GGG's pound 4 pound status (not overlooking Kell Brook here!!!). So I think in reality he probably hasn't lost these potential paydays, assuming the named opponents can be arsed dealing with the Eubanks in the future!Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraThey work with him because they make money off him. They don't want him to lose because he will be of no use to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
What's more funny Is that he turned down £1million to fight for £110k and £3 million plus to fight for peanuts, probably £50-£100k.
So this "Team Eubank master plan " is already about £4 Million down on what he could've been. So he has to earn £4 million just to get to quits! Good luck with that! ;D
The best preparation for the deadly punching GGG , light hitting British contenders?
That is the joke, the pay days are still there. Hearn said Junior could be next for GGG after he demolishes Brook.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomTotally right, totally stupid from team Eubank, any loss against GGG would have been 'acceptable' and not affected his future earnings much. Cannot work it out other than EU JR is after Big Brother more than boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraAre those paydays still there? Nowadays you don't get many big Money fights , they're very hard to make. All he has to do is lose to BJS Again and then how does he make those fights ? And even if he does get those paydays, it'll take a couple of years realistically . He could've had that money in the bank and spent the next couple of years making more. Whichever way you look , Team Eubank have put themselves behind the 8 ball and made themselves look pretty stupid in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by The PocketRocketBut you would think the £1m and £3m fights will still be there for him assuming this British title fight is routine, given BJS's lack of activity and GGG's pound 4 pound status (not overlooking Kell Brook here!!!). So I think in reality he probably hasn't lost these potential paydays, assuming the named opponents can be arsed dealing with the Eubanks in the future!Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraThey work with him because they make money off him. They don't want him to lose because he will be of no use to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
What's more funny Is that he turned down £1million to fight for £110k and £3 million plus to fight for peanuts, probably £50-£100k.
So this "Team Eubank master plan " is already about £4 Million down on what he could've been. So he has to earn £4 million just to get to quits! Good luck with that! ;D
Well let's see what happened the outfit counts a lot like Boxing Gloves Quality and then comes training and the trainer finger crossed for a pure fight
Regarding the money - I don't see the big deal with whatever Eubank turns down if they don't think he's ready. He's only 26, still fighting at British title level yet talked about among the elite (yes I know they give it the big'un but deep down this GGG palaver maybe showed what they really think).
If the old man was on a money grab he wouldn't be turning down these 7-figure paydays. It's also the oldest trick in the book to call out everyone yet fight "no-one."
Personally I think the old man is nuts and doesn't know what he's doing, but just maybe he does. Jr is not going to lose at this level, the more wins he stacks up the more impressive he looks and the big fights are there for him when they choose, purely on name recognition alone.
If I was in charge of Junior it would be euro title next, keep on keeping his name out there and slowly move him up in class, knocking ten bells out of everyone on the way, build and build the name until he is the main draw at world level. Why fight BJS for 20% when you are the main draw leave it to simmer let Saunders loose to GGG then beat him better, let Canelo and GGG fight, then go and clean up the mess. No need to rush Juniors still got to put the polish on the skills that he has in abundance.
I think BJS is next for Canelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Duke
Daddy is calling it seems very foolish indeed calling GGG out and then having a diva moment,! and turning the fight down.
I used to laugh at there comedy double act at first, now they are making themselves look foolish.
Jr is a talented fighter but Sr seems to be reliving his career through his son, they are making themselves look stupid and will loose there credibility with the fans.
Langford fight really is a joke I for one shall not be interested in this fight, shall I remain a fan of Jr I don't really know maybe not.
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Originally Posted by Dia bando
you could argue all day weather they are doing it right or wrong but I think they are just trying to build him up in a way that he will eventually make the most amount of money
Ok, you're right , you could argue all day long about what's right for him and not, but let's put it another way and put it into perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
you could argue all day weather they are doing it right or wrong but I think they are just trying to build him up in a way that he will eventually make the most amount of money
Somebody offers YOU a job and says you could earn a million NOW. You turn it down and accept £110k and think you'll work your way up and you're confident you can do that.
So you do that job, and then another one for similar money, then Somebody offers you a job for £3 Million plus , and you're confident you can work your way up and over the years earn more. So you turn it down and take another job for £100k.
Bear in mind, all the time you are telling anyone who cares to listen that you're the best in the World at your job and you would piss the £3 million job!!!
Is that how YOU would play that scenario?
Not sure I would.
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Originally Posted by Primo CarneraOk, you're right , you could argue all day long about what's right for him and not, but let's put it another way and put it into perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
you could argue all day weather they are doing it right or wrong but I think they are just trying to build him up in a way that he will eventually make the most amount of money
Somebody offers YOU a job and says you could earn a million NOW. You turn it down and accept £110k and think you'll work your way up and you're confident you can do that.
So you do that job, and then another one for similar money, then Somebody offers you a job for £3 Million plus , and you're confident you can work your way up and over the years earn more. So you turn it down and take another job for £100k.
Bear in mind, all the time you are telling anyone who cares to listen that you're the best in the World at your job and you would piss the £3 million job!!!
Is that how YOU would play that scenario?
Not sure I would.
yeah sounds strange I know
I personally would take the bag of sweets now even if it meant my career was over
they are obviously very confident that by turning it down now they can get the same bag of sweets and more in the future
another way of thinking is, they have money, why risk the health of JR any more than they need to
or perhaps staying relevant is worth more than the money
after all a smashing by GGG inside a round and his whole career is over
?
In order to get that money back, sooner or later he's gonna have to take that smashing by GGG. Where else will he earn that money, not even against BJS.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraOk, you're right , you could argue all day long about what's right for him and not, but let's put it another way and put it into perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
you could argue all day weather they are doing it right or wrong but I think they are just trying to build him up in a way that he will eventually make the most amount of money
Somebody offers YOU a job and says you could earn a million NOW. You turn it down and accept £110k and think you'll work your way up and you're confident you can do that.
So you do that job, and then another one for similar money, then Somebody offers you a job for £3 Million plus , and you're confident you can work your way up and over the years earn more. So you turn it down and take another job for £100k.
Bear in mind, all the time you are telling anyone who cares to listen that you're the best in the World at your job and you would piss the £3 million job!!!
Is that how YOU would play that scenario?
Not sure I would.
yeah sounds strange I know
I personally would take the bag of sweets now even if it meant my career was over
they are obviously very confident that by turning it down now they can get the same bag of sweets and more in the future
another way of thinking is, they have money, why risk the health of JR any more than they need to
or perhaps staying relevant is worth more than the money
after all a smashing by GGG inside a round and his whole career is over
?
And if his health is more important and if he's gonna get a beating , then why shout his mouth off all the time about what he is going to and not going to do against GGG.
And please, nobody come on hear saying "yeah, but that's Boxing!" That ain't fucking Boxing, that's BULLSHIT, pure and simple. And if people are mug enough to accept that, more fool them.
What is the Cunt? 27 years old? He's in his peak years, forget about this potential bollocks!
Fight oft, Jr injured
Warren has released a statement saying Jr and Sr are unprofessional and unpredictable
Statement from Jr's camp
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Chris Eubank Jnr suffered a severe injury sparring against a 14 stone opponent two days ago. The injury was assessed and confirmed by a Doctor on Friday 16th September, who works with the British Boxing Board of Control. The unforeseeable future puts us in a position where we have to allow the remaining contenders the ability to earn a living and, more importantly, prevent the promoter incurring any further costs before a press conference takes place as they had reminded the Eubank Management team that this was the highest purse bid they had secured.
Eubank Jnr’s management team have advised that, in their opinion, there has not been a fighter in the history of British Boxing who has had such a vast chasm of fighting prowess between him and the contenders for the British Championship in ability, speed, strength, accuracy and skill since its inauguration by the Marquess of Queensbury in the 1800’s.
So vast, in fact, that when winning the challenge for British Championship, Chris Eubank Snr had to advise him to leave his opponent’s head alone as he was taking far too much punishment and the referee didn't see what was clear to the former world champion.
Chris Eubank Jnr was advised to go to the body because of his father’s past participation in the great game. If you can disrupt your opponent’s breathing, you can effectively stop him quicker than to the head. There is strategic and tactical knowledge in the advice as well as compassion because the body can recover where the head does not always recover.
The opponent was subsequently put into an induced coma as a result of the punishment he was made to sustain.
It is now with relief, as it has become clear to Chris Eubank Jnr’s management over these past few months how much danger the health and lives of these contenders are in, therefore the relinquishing of the British Championship due to injury sustained in a sparring session is perhaps a blessing in disguise.
The severe injury to Chris Jnr’s elbow follows an ongoing injury which has been a recurring issue for the last 18 months. This allows Chris Eubank Jnr, and his management, the opportunity to relinquish the title which provides all contenders the right to earn a living and fight amongst their equal calibre of competitors.
As much as we love the tradition of the British Championship we will be forward thinking and be protective of our competition as the risk to them is real. This is seen as a positive move forward in Chris Eubank Jnr’s career.
The former world champion, Chris Eubank Snr has hospitalised men and has himself been hospitalised, and is therefore cognisant of what those outside of the ring are not.
Chris Eubank Jnr’s management team will use the injury as an opportunity to step aside and fight high calibre world competition in the coming future. Details of a press conference will follow.
Frank Warrens statement
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Due to the fact we are hours away from one of our fighters appearing in a major international event at one of America's biggest football stadiums, further developments will have to wait until Monday when we will be speaking to the BBBC.
Thereafter we will make a formal statement regarding the situation and subsequently regarding the event.
Although we are disappointed by the Eubank statement, we are not surprised, as the public know full well for themselves, they make a habit of talking up fights but not following through.
They are also incredibly unpredictable, unprofessional and very difficult to work with.
We are extremely disappointed for the fans who have booked tickets, coaches and hotels. Actions such as this are totally disrespectful to the sport and the fans.
We feel most for Tommy, who has been waiting patiently for his shot at the Lonsdale belt.
The event will be still take place on 22nd October in Cardiff and the changes that will have to be made because of this will be disclosed when we are able to do so.
So Jr is pleased to have been injured as it protects the challengers for the belt, what an absolute cunt that statement makes him out to be.
has eubank jr been lined up for golovkins next opponent ?
First thing that I thought, especially with the 'sparring against a 14stone opponent'
Still a real cuntish statement though, full of arrogance, self importance and not a single appologie in sight to the people who have paid for tickets and hotels etc
That statement sounds like it was written by Eubank Sr. I have no idea if Langford was any good(likely not) but why take those fights in the first place if that's your attitude at this stage.
I doubt very much Eubank sr can read or write.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
True enough, only in sentiment then;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlI doubt very much Eubank sr can read or write.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Eubank Sr was in a children's home about 5 miles away.
My brother used to drive a mini bus now and then he and his Mrs , used to take the kids out they remember this cheeky young lad always after a fag it was Chris LOL.
So all those people who said "it doesn't matter about the money, he'll make that back", well now it fucking matters!
He has alienated Warren and Hearn, he deserves congrats for that! Where now?
Also a. The statement said a "severe injury" and b. Why the fuck do they have to mention that he was sparring a 14 stone opponent? And furthermore it was a fucking elbow injury, so what has 14 stone got to do with anything?
Fuck 'em! Bunch of clowns.
I am getting the feeling that you do not like them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
The Eubank statement is so shameless and cringeworthy it's funny.
Yes a great double act pantomime villains , maybe we are falling for the BS bums on seats many coming to see him getting his head knocked off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Are we being played yes I would say for all the crap he can fight a bit LOL.
As a person, there are some things I like about Snr. But he's just such a thick cunt and what makes a thick cunt worse is when they think they're clever!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
As for Jnr. His problem is that he tries to be like his old man, but when his old man used to talk shite, he knew it was a game. Jnr. Doesn't and that makes him even more stupid!
Apart from that, they're alright! 😂😂😂
eubanks statement is genius
people think they are daft, they arent
Uh, I think they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44