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Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
The heavyweight title cannot be frozen. He should be stripped not because he is glamorizing drugs but because he is not in a position to defend the title.
I wouldn't be surprised if the poor guy took his own life in the next 3 months.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
The heavyweight title cannot be frozen. He should be stripped not because he is glamorizing drugs but because he is not in a position to defend the title.
I wouldn't be surprised if the poor guy took his own life in the next 3 months.
Its a good job your predictions and Nostradamus impersonations are always wrong;D
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
That sounds quite messy but guess what, plausible. I remember an old joke when I was growing up in Brooklyn just before the draft became every teen's nightmare, Why is a gypsy excused from the draft? He has crystal balls. If I didn't know it was a joke I would probably have been on line with every draft dodger in town.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
Wouldn't shock to see a 'medical' suspension knowing the backroom dealings of the ruling bodies. Get ready for a half dozen interim title fights while he is either stripped or ruled a champ in recess or some nonsense. If he is suicidal or/does need counseling..vacate the trinket.
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The title should not be dormant Tyson did take Cocaine, his titles vacant to be honest Fury is not fit to box, ! and how long will he be out of action for.
If or when he comes back Tyson will be under scrutiny from the power's that be and the media.
Fury is in shit street at the moment and nobody really knows how it will pan out.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
Strip him, and let the next two guys in line go at it.
End of story.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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TitoFan
Strip him, and let the next two guys in line go at it.
End of story.
The next 2 are Wlad and AJ since Wilder is injured. Makes sense.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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Master
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TitoFan
Strip him, and let the next two guys in line go at it.
End of story.
The next 2 are Wlad and AJ since Wilder is injured. Makes sense.
Why not.
I used to be a Wlad hater, until I got a dose of Fury as HW champion.
I still don't like Wlad's style, the way he reigned over the division with that style.
I'd give anything to watch a HW fight in which Wlad forgot about his porcelain chin and went out and actually fought like a HW (former) champion.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
The heavyweight title cannot be frozen. He should be stripped not because he is glamorizing drugs but because he is not in a position to defend the title.
I wouldn't be surprised if the poor guy took his own life in the next 3 months.
We don't say that sort of thing over here, we might think it but....
He needs some sort of help, and from what I'm reading Peter Fury did the training and Fat Mick did the money, there was no old fashioned 'manager' to sort him out. According to Peter, Tyson surrounded himself with 'tossers' no doubt on the showbiz/celeb/cocaine trail courtesy of Tysons money. He wont be the first or the last to do that. Bloody shame because he deserves better than that having been undisputed HW Champ. Not sure what the answer is unfortunately, Ross?
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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nuggetdotcom
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
The heavyweight title cannot be frozen. He should be stripped not because he is glamorizing drugs but because he is not in a position to defend the title.
I wouldn't be surprised if the poor guy took his own life in the next 3 months.
We don't say that sort of thing over here, we might think it but....
He needs some sort of help, and from what I'm reading Peter Fury did the training and Fat Mick did the money, there was no old fashioned 'manager' to sort him out. According to Peter, Tyson surrounded himself with 'tossers' no doubt on the showbiz/celeb/cocaine trail courtesy of Tysons money. He wont be the first or the last to do that. Bloody shame because he deserves better than that having been undisputed HW Champ. Not sure what the answer is unfortunately, Ross?
No idea, I'm not a psychologist.
Maybe time with his family over Christmas getting his mind off boxing for a bit will help? Maybe being tied to the rematch straight away is what's done him in. He hasn't been able to take his mind off and rest since how long?
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
I hope he is ok, he has to support the brunt of a lot of world hatred towards his kind,even though he used its persona well for advertising for the love hate relationship of getting those sort of punters involved more and now wanting to see him lose.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
The heavyweight title cannot be frozen. He should be stripped not because he is glamorizing drugs but because he is not in a position to defend the title.
I wouldn't be surprised if the poor guy took his own life in the next 3 months.
There is no question he should be stripped of his title. I just hope he gets the help he needs. Some people just cannot handle fame.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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ross
No idea, I'm not a psychologist.
Maybe time with his family over Christmas getting his mind off boxing for a bit will help? Maybe being tied to the rematch straight away is what's done him in. He hasn't been able to take his mind off and rest since how long?
You're not a psychologist, you haven't studied psychology and THEREFORE ross by your own asinine standards you have 0 business even speculating about Tyson Fury's psychological state.
Wlad was champion for 9 years or so....he didn't seem bothered by being champion.....this Tyson Fury is a dainty little pansy isn't he?
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
does that make wlad special?
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
ross
No idea, I'm not a psychologist.
Maybe time with his family over Christmas getting his mind off boxing for a bit will help? Maybe being tied to the rematch straight away is what's done him in. He hasn't been able to take his mind off and rest since how long?
You're not a psychologist, you haven't studied psychology and THEREFORE ross by your own asinine standards you have 0 business even speculating about Tyson Fury's psychological state.
Wlad was champion for 9 years or so....he didn't seem bothered by being champion.....this Tyson Fury is a dainty little pansy isn't he?
Mental illness is not something to be laughed and should be taken seriously. This should be treated as an injury and should he come back he should have the right to fight the current holder, whoever that is.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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Originally Posted by
Master
Mental illness is not something to be laughed and should be taken seriously. This should be treated as an injury and should he come back he should have the right to fight the current holder, whoever that is.
Who is laughing Master? Boxing has been in a tough spot for ages due to corruption, bad judging, bad reffing, promoters playing games, and Tyson Fury is the icing on the cake. He says "Yeah I do lots of cocaine" and what we're supposed to feel bad for him? He spouts a bunch of bullshit and some keyboard warriors took it to him and he's crying about it, I don't feel sorry for him not one fucking bit.....why should I?
Gypsies are great, Gypsies are brilliant, Gypsy warrior, Gypsy blood, Gypsy King Tyson Fury....and then folks on the internet hit him right square in his pride and he goes completely to pieces. What is there to feel sad about? Like no other fighter has had to deal with critics? FUCK Tyson Fury, he's a pussy he hasn't fucking been champ a year and he's folded up like a lawn chair and due to what...internet trolls......fucking hell.
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: I can't do me cocaine no more :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: boxing has taken my life from me :eek::eek::eek::eek: it's no fun being champion because people say mean things about me :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
Master, has ANY other champion reacted this way? Any ever in the history of the sport? This is a complete breakdown, maybe Tyson Fury is bipolar, alright let's assume he is....Mike Tyson had his fair share of mental issues he never broke down like that. Ike Ibeabuchi was mental, he ended up in jail because he was a lunatic, but he never felt sorry for himself the way Tyson Fury has.
Instead of a parade Tyson Fury is throwing himself a pity party and it is fucking PATHETIC....let him retire, let him do whatever he wants far far away from boxing because the sport doesn't need this added to everything else it's dealing with.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
The fact is fury cant fight due to health , he hasn't fought for almost a year and has cancelled his last two fights. Strip him of the titles and let him go away and recover.
If he wants to fight again then fine , if he doesn't then also fine. My opinion is he will not come back as he has lost whatever desire he had to train. He was fat when he was in his pomp , he isn't going to train now he has lost the desire , he will look like butterbean within 12 months.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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Dark Lord Al
The fact is fury cant fight due to health , he hasn't fought for almost a year and has cancelled his last two fights. Strip him of the titles and let him go away and recover.
If he wants to fight again then fine , if he doesn't then also fine. My opinion is he will not come back as he has lost whatever desire he had to train. He was fat when he was in his pomp , he isn't going to train now he has lost the desire , he will look like butterbean within 12 months.
Here's the thing people don't understand but need to get through their heads....
Had David Haye beaten Wladimir he would have done the same thing, had Chisora beaten Wlad he would have done the same thing....maybe those two wouldn't cry about "duh mean peoplez on duh internets" but they would have GLADLY taken the belts and held them hostage.
You guys don't understand how good we had it as fans with Wlad, a champion who was all too ready to defend his titles twice a year. Tyson Fury may never box again and what will he say in the future??? MARK MY WORDS
"Nobody ever beat me, I'm the greatest the sport has ever seen."
Proof? What's that? PEDs? Don't know what you're talking about. Cocaine? Yes please!
Tyson "The Gypsy DISGRACE" Fury coming to a pub near you to whine and complain about his being treated poorly because he's a Gypsy while bragging insufferably that he's a Gypsy....apparently Tyson is not one for cause and effect....don't try to teach him mind you just give him the cocaine and let him live his lovely life
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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Master
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El Kabong
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ross
No idea, I'm not a psychologist.
Maybe time with his family over Christmas getting his mind off boxing for a bit will help? Maybe being tied to the rematch straight away is what's done him in. He hasn't been able to take his mind off and rest since how long?
You're not a psychologist, you haven't studied psychology and THEREFORE ross by your own asinine standards you have 0 business even speculating about Tyson Fury's psychological state.
Wlad was champion for 9 years or so....he didn't seem bothered by being champion.....this Tyson Fury is a dainty little pansy isn't he?
Mental illness is not something to be laughed and should be taken seriously. This should be treated as an injury and should he come back he should have the right to fight the current holder, whoever that is.
I totally agree with this. Mental Illness should be shown some respect. It shouldn't be USED AS AN EXCUSE because you happen to have fucked up by taking Cocaine!
Now I've been patient and given Fury the benefit of the doubt, but he hasn't produced one shred of evidence to the governing bodies to back up his claims.
Don't get me wrong , I don't want to see it myself or read about it in the Sun , It's none of mine or anybody else's business IF he is clinically depressed. But he needs to give medical evidence to the governing bodies.
It tickled me when I saw Peter Fury say "yeah, they can take his titles , but when he's ready, blah,blah,blah." Guess what Peter, they don't need your blessing! :rolleyes:
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
A lot of sour grape issues surround him now online, like you say he should just stay home over Christmas not even look for friction from those who shouldnt count to him. That focus screw is loose.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
Just wondering, if he has been absolutely hammering the cocaine for some time then couldn't that lead to mental issues as well, you know, such as depression?
Peter Fury has said that it is a recent thing but there is no proof of that, as people have said previously cocaine leaves the system extremely fast, no on knows how long he has been taking it, all we know is that he has told people that he has done loads of it.
If it was the drugs that were the catalyst of the mental issues and not vice versa would people still be understanding or would it be a case of 'he bought it on himself'
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
Hes been random tested loads before and this is the first time hes tested for it.
In the interview hes said hes also not trained for months but iv seen pictures of him training with his family and with a personal trainer at a gym somewhere. Again, take everything he says with a pinch of salt.
One thing everyone will agree is hes not and never has been sane;D
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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Originally Posted by
ross
Hes been random tested loads before and this is the first time hes tested for it.
In the interview hes said hes also not trained for months but iv seen pictures of him training with his family and with a personal trainer at a gym somewhere. Again, take everything he says with a pinch of salt.
One thing everyone will agree is hes not and never has been sane;D
Yeah it was more of a hypothetical question, more of an 'IF' it was the drugs that fucked his brains up would people still be sympathetic or would it be his own fault?
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ross
Hes been random tested loads before and this is the first time hes tested for it.
In the interview hes said hes also not trained for months but iv seen pictures of him training with his family and with a personal trainer at a gym somewhere. Again, take everything he says with a pinch of salt.
One thing everyone will agree is hes not and never has been sane;D
Perhaps because cocaine doesn't stay in the system long....or have you not grasped that concept yet?
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Primo Carnera
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Master
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El Kabong
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ross
No idea, I'm not a psychologist.
Maybe time with his family over Christmas getting his mind off boxing for a bit will help? Maybe being tied to the rematch straight away is what's done him in. He hasn't been able to take his mind off and rest since how long?
You're not a psychologist, you haven't studied psychology and THEREFORE ross by your own asinine standards you have 0 business even speculating about Tyson Fury's psychological state.
Wlad was champion for 9 years or so....he didn't seem bothered by being champion.....this Tyson Fury is a dainty little pansy isn't he?
Mental illness is not something to be laughed and should be taken seriously. This should be treated as an injury and should he come back he should have the right to fight the current holder, whoever that is.
I totally agree with this. Mental Illness should be shown some respect. It shouldn't be USED AS AN EXCUSE because you happen to have fucked up by taking Cocaine!
Now I've been patient and given Fury the benefit of the doubt, but he hasn't produced one shred of evidence to the governing bodies to back up his claims.
Don't get me wrong , I don't want to see it myself or read about it in the Sun , It's none of mine or anybody else's business IF he is clinically depressed. But he needs to give medical evidence to the governing bodies.
It tickled me when I saw Peter Fury say "yeah, they can take his titles , but when he's ready, blah,blah,blah." Guess what Peter, they don't need your blessing! :rolleyes:
This is where I am with it all as well. Uncle Peter, Hughie, Billy fucking Joe Saunders dont get to decide if someone has got a mental illness or not. I dont either but I reckon they're all touched in the fucking head. He's now been given 10 days by the WBO to provide them with some answers which suggests he's said fuck all.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
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Master
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El Kabong
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ross
No idea, I'm not a psychologist.
Maybe time with his family over Christmas getting his mind off boxing for a bit will help? Maybe being tied to the rematch straight away is what's done him in. He hasn't been able to take his mind off and rest since how long?
You're not a psychologist, you haven't studied psychology and THEREFORE ross by your own asinine standards you have 0 business even speculating about Tyson Fury's psychological state.
Wlad was champion for 9 years or so....he didn't seem bothered by being champion.....this Tyson Fury is a dainty little pansy isn't he?
Mental illness is not something to be laughed and should be taken seriously. This should be treated as an injury and should he come back he should have the right to fight the current holder, whoever that is.
Could not agree more.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
Tyson Fury Tyson Mike Tyson Chicken
Big Coke Big Dick Big Champ
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Fury has taken steroids so he is a cheat simple .! He has taken Cocaine a banned substance in boxing.
For the above he must be banned from boxing.
As for the mental health issues he needs help he needs to forget about boxing
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Fury should be stripped for the sole reason that he doesn't seem to be able to fight. If you want belts then you have to defend them. I don't think anyone is belittling mental illness and everyone will be there at some point in their life, but if you cannot do the job then you need to take a time out and gather yourself. Fury is in the blessed situation where he doesn't really need to work and he should make the most of it. Most have to grin and bear the suffering. Fury can go to the best of rehabs, speak to the best of doctors, take as much time as he needs, but boxing should go on with or without him. Fury is relatively young, hopefully he can grow in time.
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Dia bando
Fury has taken steroids so he is a cheat simple .! He has taken Cocaine a banned substance in boxing.
For the above he must be banned from boxing.
As for the mental health issues he needs help he needs to forget about boxing
Indeed.
I wonder if this depression is maybe a guilty conscience which he's trying to treat with cocaine.
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So he refuses to supply any evidence of his condition. All we have to look at is 3 failed drug tests.
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What a piece of work. Man is he fucked. Can you imagine just. HANDING THE *FUCK* OVER YOUR WBO, WBA, IBF OR WHATEVER ALPHABET SOUP/BEAN SOUP BELTS YOU HAVE?
What a champion!
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I need some facts here. I know he failed a drugs test and traces that indicated cocaine (or morphiates anyway) showed up. I know that there is always a 'B' sample test to avoid any doubt. This also showed morphiates.
what is this third test that has been mentioned? What did the B sample show? Has there been a concrete failure for PEDS?
Can anybody show me a link to something factual, not social media shit or media rumours?
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you wont see fury again now , his personal issues and drug problems will magnify . He doesn't have the desire or will to train hard for a fight , who would sign to fight him for fear of him cancelling at the last minute.
He has earned millions so he can retire without needing any more money , as I have said many times before you wont see fury fight again.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
As predicted fury's licence has been suspended.
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Does he really have that much money though? He's obviously pretty well off but other than Klit he's never really been in any other big money fights has he.
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Batman
Does he really have that much money though? He's obviously pretty well off but other than Klit he's never really been in any other big money fights has he.
He'll be back when he runs out. He only really has the payday against Junior and it won't have been that big unless he got a decent chunk of the UK PPV money. He'll be back in around twelve months though. He can have an easy comeback fight rematching Junior and then fight for the championship again.
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Re: Tyson Fury suicidal & unable to defend Title: Title can't be frozen while we wait
Ok, so he's handed over all his belts and he's had his boxing license suspended.
I think it's fair to say "pot-shot" -ing season on Tyson should be officially over and we should move to other topics.
Speaking strictly in terms of a fellow human being, I wish him a speedy recovery for his own sake and that of his family.
Personally, I have no wish to see him in a boxing ring again.
