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as big as it comes
What a laughable fight, Haye should be boycotted.
you don't think its a viable fight?
Bellew is fat at CW , he will be hugely fat at HW.
Boxing in the UK is turning into Panto. The punters are absolute MUGS for paying for shit like this. Does it do any good for Haye's HW Prospects and Credibility? NO. Does it do anything for Bellew's CW World Champion status? NO.
We're gonna hear the same old mugs saying "Yeah but it'll be a good scrap" and "Yeah , it'll be a great build up." BOLLOCKS!
Listen, I'll watch the press conferences and I'll probably piss myself at some of the crap coming out, BUT I will not pay to line these twats pockets when it's a meaningless dust up.
I'm happy to wait 24 hours and get a stream of Bellew getting poleaxed! ;D;D;D;D
I just really don't understand it, I mean what is the selling point?
CW champion of the world has decided to not put his belts on the line and is instead moving up to heavyweight to fight a heavyweight that hasn't fought for 3 years.
Haye keeps banging on about winning a world title at heavyweight so he opts to knock out a cruiserweight, how is that going to increase his stock at all.
joke of a fight, the build up will be fun but they are two utterly unlikeable characters, having said that I want Bellew to take Hayes jaw clean off (even though that won't happen)
does this mean Haye has waived his right to a Mandatory shot at the winner of Ruiz/Parker? or will they wait for him to sort out his unfinished business? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
I forgot to mention in my last post.
Haye is a cunt
Meanwhile Shannon Briggs is clowning Haye nonstop on his Instagram account ;D
https://www.instagram.com/cannon_briggs/?hl=en
Confirmed with Haye means it has about a one in ten chance of happening. I like Haye but his scams make Trump blush.
You lot need to think outside the box for a minute and see the bigger picture ;)
Do you think it's a coincidence that Haye was "Working" ringside at the last Bellew fight... a matter of days after he had verbal warfare with him on social media ...... the Guy clearly put's himself in these positions where he is always in the middle of a Drama and always at exactly the right time.
Haye is and has ALWAYS been a genius at marketing himself and keeping himself on the publics tounge and that's the average man on the street let alone hardcore fight fans.
Haye has a Massive fan base right across the board.
Let's look at the facts......
Haye has had 2 joke fights (Since Chisora) on the Freeview Channel "Dave" both did over 3 Million views and he sold the O2 arena out twice with ZERO promotion/advertising , dogshit undercards and did so entirely on his own so he's 100% still Box office - But yet here he is still dominating boxing forums regularly.
He is now Mandatory to an as yet undecided Heavyweight Title next summer and now is in the position of jumping straight back into a very VERY winnable fight against a mediocre Cruiserweight on PPV live on Sky Sports Box Office - a fight that will sell shitloads because the fighters will sell it themselves.
Haye cashes in BIGTIME, has a Big domestic KO win and signs with Matchroom to fight for the Heavyweight Title in Summer 2017.
Boxing is as and always has been business first and sport second.
This is a smart smart move by Haye and i'd be amazed if Bellew isn't unconscious sometime in the first round :cool:
Haye dominated the Cruiserweights then won a genuine title at Heavyweight - he's been there and done it and clearly wants to now cash in.
Everyone on this forum will watch Haye beat Bellew to a pulp so let's stop pretending we won't do :)
And for the record i lost a lot of respect for Haye over the years because of one thing or another but time after time he dominates fight forums and is still easily talked about as much as AJ, Wilder, Fury etc....
And after only 2 shit fights in 4 odd years..... ask yourself why that is ;)
Win win for Bellew
Lose lose for Haye
If Bellew loses he gets money and the credibility of fighting a full blown HW
If he wins then he gets all sorts of marketability, money and a massive scalp.
If Haye wins he's expected to anyways, he gets ridiculed for fighting a CW and ducking bigger names and bigger fighters.
If he loses he is retired
Haye win's this easy Bellend gets smashed.
Probably Haye makes more money facing Tony than fighting for a vacant title, and it's a easy fight for Haye .
Easy money fight for haye.
Shame about Briggs.
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But he won't lose and jumps straight back into prime time PPV on a Sky/Matchroom Card in an easy 1-2 round KO fight - you my friend are seriously missing the point :)
I'm not saying for a second it won't sell and help both guys bank accounts, but is it a viable fight? Simply no. It's a guy who's 220 or 230 and has been a legit HW with KO power for years, against a guy who was KO'ed by Adonis Stevenson, lost to Nathan Cleverly and drew with Chilemba in that time. I'll stream it if I'm around sure, but anyone willing to pay for this is a sucker, again not saying there aren't lots of them. May as well put Cleverly vs AJ on the same bill, there's another mouth watering domestic clash.
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Your still not getting it :rolleyes: Haye doesn't need a "Viable" fight...! He want's one. it's a win win platform back into primetime PPV and a shot at the Heavyweight title again on Sky PPV with Matchroom.
You think Eddie Hearns not gonna rip his fucking hand off and do a deal after he smashes Bellew to bits in 1-2 rounds?
Fuck me the smart money would be on the deal between and Hearn already put to bed days ago ;D
Imagine Haye does fight as a mandatory for the Heavyweight title (which is 95% nailed on) Hearn could do a MASSIVE AJ v Haye fight at Wembley where everyones a winner $$£$£$£$£
Why do you think I'm missing that? I don't have as much faith as you seem to that Haye does want a real fight, but I understand if he's not doing anything else anyways this will only help him get it and demand more money, bravo for him, what a brilliant operator. My point was that it's due to people being stupid and easily conned, there is literally no reason anyone should pay for this, all I'm saying. It's as predictable a demolition as should ever be sanctioned on a high level.Quote:
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Your still not getting it :rolleyes: Haye doesn't need a "Viable" fight...! He want's one. it's a win win platform back into primetime PPV and a shot at the Heavyweight title again on Sky PPV with Matchroom.
You think Eddie Hearns not gonna rip his fucking hand off and do a deal after he smashes Bellew to bits in 1-2 rounds?
Fuck me the smart money would be on the deal between and Hearn already put to bed days ago ;D
Imagine Haye does fight as a mandatory for the Heavyweight title (which is 95% nailed on) Hearn could do a MASSIVE AJ v Haye fight at Wembley where everyones a winner $$£$£$£$£
@Vendettos @p4pking
Not for a second trying to come across as a know all etc but i used to get frustrated with certain fighters taking Bullshit fights that "Belt Wise" made no sense at all.
Believe me i've been watching fights live since 1988-89 when i was 12-13 years old and it was probably about 10 odd years ago when i was moaning about a similar situation (can't remember the fight or fighter if im honest) but a wise man basically said to me something similar to the point im trying to get across here.... like it or not Boxing is a business first and a sport second.
Always has been and probably always will be and UFC will follow suit sooner or later and the only reason they make regular "Best v Best fights" is simply because it isn't fractioned off yet and they all fight under one Ownership/Ruling so it's easy to make the big fights.
Boxing with all it's Belts/Governing Bodies is a logistical nightmare and money has the final say 99% of the time unfortunately.
And for the record the "Wise Man" who opened my eyes was the very man who runs this site @Saddo and another legend of this site, who some of you guys might not be familiar with - Curtis McCormick ;)
@Vendettos it's guys like you who will keep this site going and in my opinion are the new blood, massive passion for the square circle and a nice attitude to go with it.
Without realising i googled "Kuba Moczyk" the other day after hearing of yet another death in the sport and ended up seeing your youtube videos.
Keep it up son but FFS sort your bobble hat out ;D
You never have to worry about coming across as a know all. You aren't saying anything that isn't obvious, perhaps you are giving Haye credit for it and many wont, that's all. This fight will make sense for him because people are stupid, obviously that's all I should have typed so you wouldn't read so much into it.
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Originally Posted by p4pkingWhy do you think I'm missing that? I don't have as much faith as you seem to that Haye does want a real fight, but I understand if he's not doing anything else anyways this will only help him get it and demand more money, bravo for him, what a brilliant operator. My point was that it's due to people being stupid and easily conned, there is literally no reason anyone should pay for this, all I'm saying. It's as predictable a demolition as should ever be sanctioned on a high level.Quote:
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Your still not getting it :rolleyes: Haye doesn't need a "Viable" fight...! He want's one. it's a win win platform back into primetime PPV and a shot at the Heavyweight title again on Sky PPV with Matchroom.
You think Eddie Hearns not gonna rip his fucking hand off and do a deal after he smashes Bellew to bits in 1-2 rounds?
Fuck me the smart money would be on the deal between and Hearn already put to bed days ago ;D
Imagine Haye does fight as a mandatory for the Heavyweight title (which is 95% nailed on) Hearn could do a MASSIVE AJ v Haye fight at Wembley where everyones a winner $$£$£$£$£
My point exactly mate!!
Haye doesn't want a "Real Fight" and hasn't in years which is why he bottled it against Klitschko and refused to engage and didn't want it with Fury and now the same with Briggs.
He's a 2 weight World Champ and 36 years old now is he? (i don't think belts are really his driving force anymore)..... the guys Skint and as i understand it in the middle of a divorce case with his ex wife Natasha
He just want's to make huge money by taking as little risk as possible - i know it stinks but if a promoter (Hearn) and a massive Satellite tv platform on PPV (Sky) are willing to put this show on to the masses can we blame him.
I know it's not purist stuff or the way it should be but it just goes full circle to my point.
Business £$£$£ first - Sport second.
I know i'll watch it live and hand on heart would pay the full PPV price if i didn't get HD ppv for free anyway and i would bet my house 99% of people who think this is a joke fight will do too come fight week ;)
Bellews as much to Blame here anyway.... he's not even a convincing Cruiserweight for me and i think he'd get battered if he tries to unify against Dennis Lebedev and he knows it, which is why i think he's pushed so hard for Haye so he can Cash in before he's history as a Crusierweight ;)
Again..... Money talks :)
To everybody who's saying Boxing is a business first and a Sport second, the more of you that believe that, the more it is the case. And the more of you that pay for this horseshit the worse it gets.
And it's wrong , Boxing IS A SPORT! I'm amazed that people entertain mismatches like this.
And why do they get away with it? Because the "governing" bodies are all spineless crooks . The BBBOC Shouldn't sanction it and make the cunts use the Luxembourg BBOC again!
And the World bodies should strip Haye of his ranking and Bellew of his title.
And anyone who pays for this isn't really a fan of Boxing , but more a fan of hype and Bullshit. MUGS!
@smashup Haha.. appreciated mate! Glad you seen the videos, I only started them for saddo posts but I'm probably going to do them daily.Quote:
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And my hat is comfy as hell :D
https://s17.postimg.org/f3awrsmf3/20161125_210240.jpg
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Originally Posted by Vendettos@smashup Haha.. appreciated mate! Glad you seen the videos, I only started them for saddo posts but I'm probably going to do them daily.Quote:
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And my hat is comfy as hell :D
https://s17.postimg.org/f3awrsmf3/20161125_210240.jpg
;D;D;D;D
So are you basically saying that the "Vendettos Hat" is your "Burt Sugar Cigar" / "Don King Hair"
Being half Scottish myself i'd go for the Kilt personally!
Didn't do Frank Maloney any harm wearing a skirt for 20 years :-X
Haye is better than this and should make a serious go at winning the title fighting boxers that will get him a title shot, not make these gimmick fights.
Haye is preparing himself to get smashed by AJ and Wilder because Bellew is no preparation for those fighters.
Ugly joke and the worst thing is we have to hear from both of them until March 2017! Sky will plug this to death.
I hate boxing of this kind, total mis match like Canelo v Khan, GGG v Brook and now this. :mad:
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He doesn't have to though does he..! He's WBA mandatory and he's done fuck all to be in that position - this is just an easy and BIG payday that 99% guarantees Hearn will promote his Heavyweight title shot after he destroys Bellew on PPV.
Hearn/Haye are in bed together :cool:
I understand that but how is this preparing Haye to beat AJ or any of the big super heavyweights.
Haye could beat AJ if he made the effort.
@smashup Haha yea, you've just given me my gimmick!!Quote:
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Would have used the kilt but Scotland cold, my dick would shrivel up to 7 inches. ;)
It's a money fight @Master .. He had options .. Hatton said they tried to get Haye vs Browne rather than briggs but Haye wants none of that.
Haye is a celebrity boxer and is a waste of time and effort.
Is there any chance both these boxers knock themselves out?
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Once Haye smashes Bellew and is the talk of UK Boxing while it lasts he''ll milk the fuck out of it TV appearance wise then once/if he still gets that WBA or is it WBO Mandatory shot i think he'd knuckle down and have one more massive effort.... infact i think he'll do that for this Bellew fight because he knows what it leads too and it's his last roll of the dice.
Please don't ask me how the fuck Haye is Ranked 3, 4 and 7 by the IBF, WBO and WBA respectively after fighting 2 absolute nobodys ranked 46 and 208 in the World since fighting Chisora 4 and a half years ago? :confused:
The Heavyweight World rankings are all over the fucking place, it's like the sanctioning bodies met up one night, got on the piss and pulled the fucking names out of a hat (barring the obvious belt holders) ;D
I mean seriously can anyone tell me exactly how Haye has managed to be so highly ranked please? :confused:
http://www.fightnews.com/rankings-2
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Would have used the kilt but Scotland cold, my dick would shrivel up to 7 inches. ;)
It's a money fight @Master .. He had options .. Hatton said they tried to get Haye vs Browne rather than briggs but Haye wants none of that.
@Vendettos AKA "The Bagpipe" ;D
Smash is right. Haye is the smart one here and though he's not fooling us lot in terms of boxing achievements he's milking the uninformed casual fans and putting himself right up there for a shot at the title and a massive bank balance for fuck all risk to him.
And yes I'll probably pay to watch the thing ffs :-\
Bellow will be the party pooper though and blown Haye away inside 2 rounds. You heard it here first.
Just in case anyone missed my in depth, well thought out and utterly correct post that I made earier, I shall repeat it for one and all.
Haye is a cunt
As with all mismatches the fans will buy the PPV and they will.!
The hype the bullshit will sell the fight Eddie is rubbing his hands.
We will moan and bitch but we will watch it being fans we are hypocrite's because we like boxing mismatches or not.
UK boxing is so similar to the old Pride fighting championships with all these circus fights. I used to think it was cool how much you support your guys. In America we don't give a F where a guy is from. Hell, all our best sellers are foreign fighters and our top guys can't draw flies to shit.
But when you really look at what your support gets you with this garbage. And our lack of support forces our top guys to fight top guys for ratings. It seems not supporting is the way to go.
When this fight earns it will only mean more of this nonsense. Good luck with that
(Sidebar-Haye never had a real world title because the Yeti didn't have a real world title.And had lost his fake world title repeatedly before he got to Haye. Haye bought a bought belt from a fraud)
I feel like this going to be a beat down not sure why this fight is happening either. I mean is Hay done with the hw division now or what i thought he wanted to face Fury before the drug shit came up.
You'll order this PPV? If not, you aren't really a hypocrite for watching, I've done my part and can say David Haye has never earned a penny from me:p If I lived in the UK and this fight was on regular cable, I'd stream it anyways, that's how much of a crock it is.Quote:
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