Abdul Razak Aryan - Somali refugee ATTACKS 11, Ohio University

The piece of garbage RAN HIS VEHICLE OVER 11 PEOPLE, got out of the vehicle with a BUTCHER KNIFE, STABBING MANY PEOPLE, before heroic police SHOT HIS ASS DEAD AS A DOOR NAIL. (Said he had "nowhere to pray" and Ohio University "failed to provide Muslims prayer spaces".)

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What a nutcase. I'm glad he was taken down.

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The piece of garbage RAN HIS VEHICLE OVER 11 PEOPLE, got out of the vehicle with a BUTCHER KNIFE, STABBING MANY PEOPLE, before heroic police SHOT HIS ASS DEAD AS A DOOR NAIL. (Said he had "nowhere to pray" and Ohio University "failed to provide Muslims prayer spaces".)

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All of these cops have been by white men in the last few weeks. White lives sure didn't matter to these find upstanding citizens of the United States of America.
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Notice Brock does not do any posts when his white men kill other men, even though it's much greater number ?

But I suppose in suspected white supremacists minds like Brock everything pales in comparison to a good black-folks-raping-and-killing-whites tale. Nothing and I mean NOTHING beefs up white rage and paranoia better than that

Fancy that an attack ended by a gun. Who would have thought.

And 'mass' shooting in heart of French Quarter barely breaks national news. Maybe the idiot should have done it in the name of religion rather than street beefs :-X

1 year rookie? closed show on Ohio attacker today. Well done.

Thus isn't about he's black. Its about RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM and immigration

This stupid fuck described himself as a "scared Muslim". Talked about how Muslims weren't getting a fair shake.

Way to dispel the stereotypes you dumb cunt. I was very happy to learn that he was the only one killed during this ordeal. Useless fuck can't even jihad right. ;D

Go tell Allah you had the element of surprise, a 2-ton vehicle, a butcher knife and you couldn't even kill one infidel. No virgins in the afterlife for you, pal.

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@denilson200 make Austria great again

Scary stuff, glad nobody but him died, and good work by the cop.

Saying that, how do you attempt to run people over, hit 10 or so, then get out with a butcher knife to stab more, and not kill anyone? Guy must have been fucking useless ;D

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And 'mass' shooting in heart of French Quarter barely breaks national news. Maybe the idiot should have done it in the name of religion rather than street beefs :-X

1 year rookie? closed show on Ohio attacker today. Well done.

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Violence on a college campus always beats street violence which is why Chicago shootings never make news....too many of them, same old same old and they don't fit the narrative

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Thus isn't about he's black. Its about RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM and immigration

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What makes this a radical terrorist attack exactly ? The guy is 18.

He looks older though. Dude was losing his hair at such a young age.

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This was unorganized as hell. Look at this brilliant "terrorist". He managed to kill one person, himself. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! He obviously did not plan this well if he planned it at all

In many ways mass stabbings are more gangster and insane than mass shootings because stabbing is such an up close and personal thing. You have to be beyond help mentally to be able to jam a large knife into a stranger and have their blood literally on your hands. It’s easier to emotionally distance yourself from the act when you're just pulling a trigger from feet away.

I can't believe how much some Americans care about what they define as terrorism. It's a non-issue. You are magnitudes more likely to be killed by a fellow American than you are by ISIS.

Plus the people who are scared of terrorist live in places were Terrorists don’t want to go. As if somebody in "flyover country" has anything to worry about other than a swarm of locusts coming for their corn.

Americans die at alarming rates from gun violence but they'll lose their minds if you start talking about gun control. The number 1 cause of death in the USA is heart disease but that isn't stopping Americans from shovelling bacon cheeseburger after bacon cheeseburger down their gullets.

An American is more likely to be struck by lightning than to be killed in a terrorist attack.

Has anyone in the media ever uttered the term "Radical Christian Terrorism" or "Radical White Terrorism"?

Let it be a regular A'murican lashing out because of rage and it would be buried in the news

Nobody called Dylan Roof, Adam Lanza, James Holmes, Robert Dear a domestic terrorist. But people aren't afraid of guns and gun owners, they're afraid of terrorists..

If you can count all of the acts of terrorism in the US during the last decade using your hands than I can't even begin to understand why you or anyone else thinks it's a "real issue".

Let's count on our hands, shall we?

1. Boston Bombing - 3 deaths
2. San Bernadino - 14 deaths
3. Pulse - 49 deaths
4. Fort Hood - 13 deaths
5. NYC/NJ guy - 0 deaths
6. Queens hatchet attack - 0 deaths

I still have 4 fingers left. I totally see why so many Americans stay up at night worried about terrorism. With 320,000,000 people in the country and 79 of them dead from terrorism.

As to this Abdul guy if you are going to man up and take down things, at least go for the big dogs, not innocent people or students going about their business.

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Saying that, how do you attempt to run people over, hit 10 or so, then get out with a butcher knife to stab more, and not kill anyone? Guy must have been fucking useless ;D

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Agreed, this guy could fuck up a grilled cheese sandwich. ;D

It's a shame ISIS doesn't have more guys like this... ISIS would be gone in a week ;D

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Thus isn't about he's black. Its about RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM and immigration

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What makes this a radical terrorist attack exactly ? The guy is 18.

He looks older though. Dude was losing his hair at such a young age.

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This was unorganized as hell. Look at this brilliant "terrorist". He managed to kill one person, himself. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! He obviously did not plan this well if he planned it at all

In many ways mass stabbings are more gangster and insane than mass shootings because stabbing is such an up close and personal thing. You have to be beyond help mentally to be able to jam a large knife into a stranger and have their blood literally on your hands. It’s easier to emotionally distance yourself from the act when you're just pulling a trigger from feet away.

I can't believe how much some Americans care about what they define as terrorism. It's a non-issue. You are magnitudes more likely to be killed by a fellow American than you are by ISIS.

Plus the people who are scared of terrorist live in places were Terrorists don’t want to go. As if somebody in "flyover country" has anything to worry about other than a swarm of locusts coming for their corn.

Americans die at alarming rates from gun violence but they'll lose their minds if you start talking about gun control. The number 1 cause of death in the USA is heart disease but that isn't stopping Americans from shovelling bacon cheeseburger after bacon cheeseburger down their gullets.

An American is more likely to be struck by lightning than to be killed in a terrorist attack.

Has anyone in the media ever uttered the term "Radical Christian Terrorism" or "Radical White Terrorism"?

Let it be a regular A'murican lashing out because of rage and it would be buried in the news

Nobody called Dylan Roof, Adam Lanza, James Holmes, Robert Dear a domestic terrorist. But people aren't afraid of guns and gun owners, they're afraid of terrorists..

If you can count all of the acts of terrorism in the US during the last decade using your hands than I can't even begin to understand why you or anyone else thinks it's a "real issue".

Let's count on our hands, shall we?

1. Boston Bombing - 3 deaths
2. San Bernadino - 14 deaths
3. Pulse - 49 deaths
4. Fort Hood - 13 deaths
5. NYC/NJ guy - 0 deaths
6. Queens hatchet attack - 0 deaths

I still have 4 fingers left. I totally see why so many Americans stay up at night worried about terrorism. With 320,000,000 people in the country and 79 of them dead from terrorism.

As to this Abdul guy if you are going to man up and take down things, at least go for the big dogs, not innocent people or students going about their business.

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1. What makes it a "Radical Islamic Terrorist Attack" are the following A) The perpetrator was a Somalian refugee by way of Pakistan and a Muslim B) He posted on Facebook tying him to the line of thought of such people as Anwar Al-Awlaki whom he called a "hero"
2. He's from Somalia so for all we know he could have been 40 years old.
3. Nobody said terrorists were smart in fact I believe quite the opposite....I think the average terrorist is even dumber than you Denilson.
4. And what would you know about stabbing vs shooting?
5. People care about terrorism because we're importing it from other countries. People come here and instead of taking advantage of what America offers they wish to turn America into a Muslim run shithole...like the nations they tried so hard to escape.
6. People in "flyover country" aren't afraid of terrorists, they would be happy as hell to shoot a terrorist if given the opportunity. The folks in LA, New York, and on the very lefty college campuses are the scared ones. If he would have attacked anywhere in a small town he would have quite literally brought a knife to a gun fight.
7. :vd: Gun control only keeps law abiding citizens from owning guns toolbox. Chicago is A#1 in gun control and they are A#1 in shooting deaths...gee I wonder why that is?
8. Heart disease is something somebody does to themselves, Terrorism is something someone inflicts on you....retard
9. "Radical Christian Terrorism" I guess could be used to describe the Oklahoma City Bombing or Eric Robert Rudolph's Olympic Park Bombing and "Radical White Terrorism" is groups like The Weather Underground but that's very few and very far between.
10. The media would love nothing more than some redneck causing all of the violence: via WikiLeaks John Podesta wrote “Better if a guy named Sayeed Farouk was reporting that a guy named Christopher Hayes was the shooter.”....they want that to be the narrative but it's not and it'll never be the case.
11. Those guys were murderers, people certainly called Tim McVeigh a terrorist because he was, Eric Robert Rudolph also could be considered a terrorist, Robert Dear maybe as well. Holmes and Lanza were absolutely mentally unhinged....Roof is a racist and murderer, he knew full well what he was doing and he's going to pay the price.
12. Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez in Chattanooga killed 4, Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi in Garland, TX attempted to kill a large group of people, September 25, 2014 (Moore, OK) a Sharia Law advocate beheads a woman....or didn't you count those? But hey what's 80 some odd deaths which happen to regular people and not gang members or people doing illegal activities?
13. The terrorists won't go for "the big dogs" because they are stupid and they are cowards. Not in that they are afraid to die, no they pretty much accept that, but they are cowards because they attack the defenseless....they don't want a toe to toe war they'd never win it and they know it.

Islam isn't something that is good for Black people....but I suppose you know what you're doing :rolleyes:

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"O America! We are the Muslim Ummah! We will attack you forever!"

This is what FUCK-JOB SOMALI MUSLIM TERRORIST WROTE 5 MINUTES BEFORE HIS ATTACK. But deniLson is so stupid he tried to deny it was a radical Islamic terrorist attack. Actually @denilson200 is so goddam fucking stupid he FIRST TRIED TO SPIN THIS INTO A BLACK AND WHITE THING.

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Thus isn't about he's black. Its about RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM and immigration

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What makes this a radical terrorist attack exactly ? The guy is 18.

He looks older though. Dude was losing his hair at such a young age.

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This was unorganized as hell. Look at this brilliant "terrorist". He managed to kill one person, himself. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! He obviously did not plan this well if he planned it at all

In many ways mass stabbings are more gangster and insane than mass shootings because stabbing is such an up close and personal thing. You have to be beyond help mentally to be able to jam a large knife into a stranger and have their blood literally on your hands. It’s easier to emotionally distance yourself from the act when you're just pulling a trigger from feet away.

I can't believe how much some Americans care about what they define as terrorism. It's a non-issue. You are magnitudes more likely to be killed by a fellow American than you are by ISIS.

Plus the people who are scared of terrorist live in places were Terrorists don’t want to go. As if somebody in "flyover country" has anything to worry about other than a swarm of locusts coming for their corn.

Americans die at alarming rates from gun violence but they'll lose their minds if you start talking about gun control. The number 1 cause of death in the USA is heart disease but that isn't stopping Americans from shovelling bacon cheeseburger after bacon cheeseburger down their gullets.

An American is more likely to be struck by lightning than to be killed in a terrorist attack.

Has anyone in the media ever uttered the term "Radical Christian Terrorism" or "Radical White Terrorism"?

Let it be a regular A'murican lashing out because of rage and it would be buried in the news

Nobody called Dylan Roof, Adam Lanza, James Holmes, Robert Dear a domestic terrorist. But people aren't afraid of guns and gun owners, they're afraid of terrorists..

If you can count all of the acts of terrorism in the US during the last decade using your hands than I can't even begin to understand why you or anyone else thinks it's a "real issue".

Let's count on our hands, shall we?

1. Boston Bombing - 3 deaths
2. San Bernadino - 14 deaths
3. Pulse - 49 deaths
4. Fort Hood - 13 deaths
5. NYC/NJ guy - 0 deaths
6. Queens hatchet attack - 0 deaths

I still have 4 fingers left. I totally see why so many Americans stay up at night worried about terrorism. With 320,000,000 people in the country and 79 of them dead from terrorism.

As to this Abdul guy if you are going to man up and take down things, at least go for the big dogs, not innocent people or students going about their business.

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1. What makes it a "Radical Islamic Terrorist Attack" are the following A) The perpetrator was a Somalian refugee by way of Pakistan and a Muslim B) He posted on Facebook tying him to the line of thought of such people as Anwar Al-Awlaki whom he called a "hero"
2. He's from Somalia so for all we know he could have been 40 years old.
3. Nobody said terrorists were smart in fact I believe quite the opposite....I think the average terrorist is even dumber than you Denilson.
4. And what would you know about stabbing vs shooting?
5. People care about terrorism because we're importing it from other countries. People come here and instead of taking advantage of what America offers they wish to turn America into a Muslim run shithole...like the nations they tried so hard to escape.
6. People in "flyover country" aren't afraid of terrorists, they would be happy as hell to shoot a terrorist if given the opportunity. The folks in LA, New York, and on the very lefty college campuses are the scared ones. If he would have attacked anywhere in a small town he would have quite literally brought a knife to a gun fight.
7. :vd: Gun control only keeps law abiding citizens from owning guns toolbox. Chicago is A#1 in gun control and they are A#1 in shooting deaths...gee I wonder why that is?
8. Heart disease is something somebody does to themselves, Terrorism is something someone inflicts on you....retard
9. "Radical Christian Terrorism" I guess could be used to describe the Oklahoma City Bombing or Eric Robert Rudolph's Olympic Park Bombing and "Radical White Terrorism" is groups like The Weather Underground but that's very few and very far between.
10. The media would love nothing more than some redneck causing all of the violence: via WikiLeaks John Podesta wrote “Better if a guy named Sayeed Farouk was reporting that a guy named Christopher Hayes was the shooter.”....they want that to be the narrative but it's not and it'll never be the case.
11. Those guys were murderers, people certainly called Tim McVeigh a terrorist because he was, Eric Robert Rudolph also could be considered a terrorist, Robert Dear maybe as well. Holmes and Lanza were absolutely mentally unhinged....Roof is a racist and murderer, he knew full well what he was doing and he's going to pay the price.
12. Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez in Chattanooga killed 4, Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi in Garland, TX attempted to kill a large group of people, September 25, 2014 (Moore, OK) a Sharia Law advocate beheads a woman....or didn't you count those? But hey what's 80 some odd deaths which happen to regular people and not gang members or people doing illegal activities?
13. The terrorists won't go for "the big dogs" because they are stupid and they are cowards. Not in that they are afraid to die, no they pretty much accept that, but they are cowards because they attack the defenseless....they don't want a toe to toe war they'd never win it and they know it.

Islam isn't something that is good for Black people....but I suppose you know what you're doing :rolleyes:

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What is the root of terrorism ?

Apart from that certain people don’t count.

The irony is Al Qaida was started by US money in 1980′s in Afganistan where Osama was fighting your previous enemies; the commies.

.If the UK and USA make it “us against them,” and project the idea worldwide that they see themselves locked in a crusader’s holy war against Islam, they can hardly act surprised if and when those on who they have declared that war on take them at their word and decide they have nothing to lose by taking as many of you down as they can in the process.

Terrorism will always exist as long as white people remain committed to a politics of Western dominance around the globe; so long as they stand in the way of self-determination for the Palestinian people; so long as they act as though they act like they entitled to other people’s oil.

So long as Israel is the only country allowed to have nuclear weapons in the middle east.

And this will not end quickly

The reason ? Because in the world of power politics, to do such a thing is to risk being viewed as inferior. Peace is for wimps. Real men hit back.

ISIS ? Even if they're able to pull off more terrorist attacks. Europe and the USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and quite clearly the ability to kill more of them than they can.

But even if ISIS were to disappear tomorrow, the threat of terrorism would always be here, so long as there is western dominance around the globe.

If the USA wishes to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against them, then they must insist that they turn from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

It is not legitimate to station American troops in Saudi Arabia, or to fund Israel to the tune of billions of dollars as they continue to subjugate the Palestinian people in ways they could not do for one week were they to have to pay for their police state on their own.

It is not legitimate to starve the people of Iraq with economic sanctions that kill hundreds of thousands of children.

"Yeah but we have nukes !!"

Nukes don’t mean nothing. They are impractical weapons. No-one wants to destroy the world. They would much rather control the world. And that’s what the ‘Robot Army’ concept allows for. But it takes a lot more drones to control the world than it takes nuclear weapons to destroy the world—thus the expense.

Also the cost of keeping up with the state-of-the-art technology is VERY expensive.

If all the kids in the sandbox think you’re scum, then after a while you’d best stop trying to beat them into submission, or thinking that they’re the problem, and instead begin to turn some of that analysis inward.

If, on the other hand, the USA does not give a f**k about that and there main concern was showing what a b.a.da.s.s they were, and how many guns and bombs they can use to kill them, then maybe this wouldn’t matter much to them at all. And in that case, they'd would set out to show those other kids who was boss and then act shocked when they hit back.

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Well spoken, Denilson. All these threads about individual acts of violence but silence when it comes to war crimes, invasion, drones, rendition and torture that Trump the new messiah advocates. Terrorism grows because the Western system makes money and creates a subservient domestic population from it. Threads like this show how easily played people are.

Yeah Denilson.

You talk a lot of shit about racism, but you speak a lot of truths on terrorism.

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Yeah Denilson.

You talk a lot of shit about racism, but you speak a lot of truths on terrorism.

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Don't do it guys that where it starts. A simple "oh yes I see" brings u down. Wipe those liberal rainbow tears from your eyes

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Yeah Denilson.

You talk a lot of shit about racism, but you speak a lot of truths on terrorism.

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Don't do it guys that where it starts. A simple "oh yes I see" brings u down. Wipe those liberal rainbow tears from your eyes

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Agreed. These guys are trolls. "Good post Denilson" hahaha. Gandalf is miffed by our posts but supports the most flagrant, blatant, allowed-to-be-a-Saddo-member-even-when-being-a-militant-black-racist piece of shit. Hahaha. You just can't make this stuff up. Walrus it could be painkillers.

So the guy's not allowed to make any good points on any topic?

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Yeah Denilson.

You talk a lot of shit about racism, but you speak a lot of truths on terrorism.

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Don't do it guys that where it starts. A simple "oh yes I see" brings u down. Wipe those liberal rainbow tears from your eyes

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Agreed. These guys are trolls. "Good post Denilson" hahaha. Gandalf is miffed by our posts but supports the most flagrant, blatant, allowed-to-be-a-Saddo-member-even-when-being-a-militant-black-racist piece of shit. Hahaha. You just can't make this stuff up. Walrus it could be painkillers.

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You are now calling a poster a piece of shit on the main boards? Then you accuse posters of being on drugs because they point out the hypocrisy of highlighting individual acts of violence whilst ignoring the full picture of how terrorism is created? No you couldn't make it up could you? Is there anything in Denilsons post you actually want to critique?

So denilson, you're saying all Americans are fair game because of American foreign policy which we, the individual citizens don't directly control?

Then I guess I should not care about ANY "innocent Muslims" caught in the crossfire. I mean if I a normal civilian am fair game and it's us or them all I have to say to that is:


Well....bye

Terrorism is reprehensible in either direction, because innocent civilians die. Denilson's point, which is similar to points Miles has made in the past, is that the U.S. is not blameless in these things, as a lot of the military strikes, whether it be drones or whatever.... kill a lot of innocent civilians as well. The point is the U.S. does stick its nose where it doesn't belong. Ideally, if you get down to it, the U.S. should limit itself to defending its own borders and people. That line that gets crossed whenever the U.S. takes on the role of global policeman is a very dangerous line to cross. It's common knowledge that a lot of U.S. actions abroad (in the name of global peace-keeping) are really driven by financial interests. That's not a good enough reason. So naturally there's a backlash. It doesn't make it right, and terrorists are the worst kind of people, worthy of the worst type of treatment when caught. But other countries can and will get pissed off.

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Yeah Denilson.

You talk a lot of shit about racism, but you speak a lot of truths on terrorism.

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Don't do it guys that where it starts. A simple "oh yes I see" brings u down. Wipe those liberal rainbow tears from your eyes

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Agreed. These guys are trolls. "Good post Denilson" hahaha. Gandalf is miffed by our posts but supports the most flagrant, blatant, allowed-to-be-a-Saddo-member-even-when-being-a-militant-black-racist piece of shit. Hahaha. You just can't make this stuff up. Walrus it could be painkillers.

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You are now calling a poster a piece of shit on the main boards? Then you accuse posters of being on drugs because they point out the hypocrisy of highlighting individual acts of violence whilst ignoring the full picture of how terrorism is created? No you couldn't make it up could you? Is there anything in Denilsons post you actually want to critique?

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He doesnt even deserve after calling for whites to be killed ..... Gandalf you are beyond ridiculous. The Rainbow Coalition has allowed a militant black racist to openly threaten whites for over a year now. And you want people to critique his post now?

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So denilson, you're saying all Americans are fair game because of American foreign policy which we, the individual citizens don't directly control?

Then I guess I should not care about ANY "innocent Muslims" caught in the crossfire. I mean if I a normal civilian am fair game and it's us or them all I have to say to that is:


Well....bye

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Lyle, Lyle. Time to <BLOCK> some idiots.

<BLOCK> Miles
<BLOCK> Denilson

Ahhhhh..... Pure pleasure.

Ahhhhhh!

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Yeah Denilson.

You talk a lot of shit about racism, but you speak a lot of truths on terrorism.

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Don't do it guys that where it starts. A simple "oh yes I see" brings u down. Wipe those liberal rainbow tears from your eyes

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Agreed. These guys are trolls. "Good post Denilson" hahaha. Gandalf is miffed by our posts but supports the most flagrant, blatant, allowed-to-be-a-Saddo-member-even-when-being-a-militant-black-racist piece of shit. Hahaha. You just can't make this stuff up. Walrus it could be painkillers.

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You are now calling a poster a piece of shit on the main boards? Then you accuse posters of being on drugs because they point out the hypocrisy of highlighting individual acts of violence whilst ignoring the full picture of how terrorism is created? No you couldn't make it up could you? Is there anything in Denilsons post you actually want to critique?

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He doesnt even deserve after calling for whites to be killed ..... Gandalf you are beyond ridiculous. The Rainbow Coalition has allowed a militant black racist to openly threaten whites for over a year now. And you want people to critique his post now?

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You said that soldiers should have their necks sliced open like rats so Denilson does not have a monopoly on extremist views. With that in mind you should probably be a bit more fair minded when it comes to the occasional silly thing Denilson might say. His post was an interesting one.

As individuals we all have our own hardships and tragedies - some obviously a lot more than others.

But there's no amount of injustice that you can suffer, either as an individual or as a group, that justifies acting like a murderous savage. There's no need for "but (x) did this" conversations.

This Abdul guy was a murderer, a piece of shit. Those who commit war crimes in the middle east are murderers (but a distinction between war and war criminal must be made).

To argue about who did what to who is irrelevant: a man who chooses to purposely kill innocent civilians is a savage, regardless of his color or religion. Let's call a savage a savage and move on.

This terrorist mind you came to the United States as a REFUGEE....he was assisted by the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT......he made use of entitlement programs from the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.....and he attacks American civilians for what? A war in where? On what? Are we at war with Somalia? Are we at war with Pakistan? Was this guy some kind of "citizen of the world" where he thinks he can fucking dictate to The United States how they should or should not deal with Radical Islamic Terrorism?


And you lot arguing that this guy was somehow justified in his actions (yeah, that's exactly what you're doing) are the same folks who think that the United States and the western world in general should accept MORE refugees from majority Muslim nations who produce some very twisted people....yeah, that'll work out well I am sure.



War is Hell, innocent people die all the time, who the fuck thinks it's sunshine, rainbows, and glittery unicorn farts? If terrorists hide behind civilians, then collateral damage will happen, yeah even with smart bombs. Oddly enough I don't recall ever hearing about the poor civilians of Dresden, I don't recall the Brits ever crying "foul" on the Germans for bombing London.....that's what war is and it shouldn't be entered in to lightly, nor should you EVER half ass a war because it'll only lead to bigger, bloodier conflicts in the future.

Exactly. I NEVER sliced to slice their necks like rats. I said and I quote: fuck the soldiers in Afghanistan, what are they doing there? Cut their throats like "pigs" (not rats), and they bleed like "rats". Can't you get the meaning there Miles? Did you think that meant "let in Somali refugees and then let them--- rather than being thankful and grateful--- run their vehicle over 11 COLLEGE STUDENTS and STAB THEM WITH A BUTCHER KNIFE"?

Afghanistan war on terror and Somali refugee----What has one to do with the other? Somali refugees are not victims of the US war on terror. @Gandalf how you love to compare apples and oranges to make some wild and remote connection that does not exist.

The meaning is essentially the same. You want soldiers to have their necks cut open yet take issue with Denilson because he believes in a violent struggle. You are all over the place with your logic.

The US has been at war with half a dozen countries simultaneously. The reality is it is out of control with the war crimes and is thus perpetuating and expanding terror. You guys document the individual acts yet turn a blind eye to the drones and acts of state violence.

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The meaning is essentially the same. You want soldiers to have their necks cut open yet take issue with Denilson because he believes in a violent struggle. You are all over the place with your logic.

The US has been at war with half a dozen countries simultaneously. The reality is it is out of control with the war crimes and is thus perpetuating and expanding terror. You guys document the individual acts yet turn a blind eye to the drones and acts of state violence.

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You are the one whose logic is all over the place. So would you care to try to make the logical connection between the drone strikes in Afghanistan with a refugee from Somalia running over University students with a car Miles? Hmmmmm??

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The meaning is essentially the same. You want soldiers to have their necks cut open yet take issue with Denilson because he believes in a violent struggle. You are all over the place with your logic.

The US has been at war with half a dozen countries simultaneously. The reality is it is out of control with the war crimes and is thus perpetuating and expanding terror. You guys document the individual acts yet turn a blind eye to the drones and acts of state violence.

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You are the one whose logic is all over the place. So would you care to try to make the logical connection between the drone strikes in Afghanistan with a refugee from Somalia running over University students with a car Miles? Hmmmmm??

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You do realise that drone strikes don't only take place in Afghanistan, right? You do understand that around the world there are around 1000 military bases, secret rendition sites, several secret wars, as well as the obvious and forgotten wars. You don't possibly think that acts of state sponsored terrorism have a correlatory affect on domestic acts of terror? You start all these threads day in day out and seldom look to the source of it all. You call me a shill but you are played like a puppet on a string.

You completely skipped my part about you being a hypocrite when it comes to how you treat Denilson. BTW good job on making me laugh with your post about going to Trump Tower to hand in your resume. Were there any goats there too?

#1 I don't care if you don't believe me about the goat OR Trump Tower resume dropoff. What IN GOD'S NAME would you know about NYC and what's here/what's possible here.

#2 you DO realize that we LET HIM IN FROM SOMALIA IN ORDER TO HELP HIM RIGHT? SO, DO TELL, what is the logical connection between drone strikes in Somalia and this kid being kindly and humanely handed FREE US CITIZENSHIP AND HIS MURSEROUS RAMPAGE rather than what should have been his gratefulness? Hmmmm?

I am too busy laughing to respond to any of that. You crack me up, but I shall try.....Let's assume I have become a citizen of this country and then an unjust act of aggression is carried out on my home country and innocent people are killed, maybe even my family. Do you not think there might be a slight correlation if I get slightly pissed off one day and respond? All this 'We did good for him and helped him' etc is very lovely, but ignores the fact that terrible war crimes have now been carried out and I don't feel welcome any longer in a country that ramps up the hostility through the media and the likes of you daily. In most cases the person would shrug it off and get on with life, but some people snap. You, with these constant threads are taking isolated individuals who snap and try to grandstand and say 'See, see, see, look at what he did!', but you completely disregard the wider context and get childish when people point out your absurdities.

What this guy did is awful, but it is going to happen when you have an illegal drone program, sanctions on every country going, several illegal wars, several secret wars, a 1000 overseas bases, etc etc. Now you could talk about those things and put pressure on your government to get real over those things, but instead you start constant threads on individual acts of barbarity whilst ignoring the wider context. You do it on purpose to push buttons.

I do appreciate the good chuckle you have given me there! Why so kind? It brightened up the rainy day here we are having.

Now then. It is with not the least bit of amusement I see you ~connecting~ ---SOMEHOW!--- drone strikes and a young man who was given FREE US CITIZENSHIP to escape from the clans' infighting in Haargeysa and the warlords' butchery in Mogadishu and decided DESPITE BEING ACCEPTED TO THE GREAT OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY to in his own words BECAUSE OF A LACK OF ZOHAR and MAGHREB prayer space for Muslims on campus RUN OVER 11 INNICENT STUDENTS WITH A VEHICLE and then proceed to STAB THEM WITH A BUTCHER KNIFE.

You guys are going at it good. ;D Who needs Beanz to fight with? ;D

I'll inject my two cents then leave you gents to duel it out.

On the Abdul front:

There's no excuse for that type of terror, and it's up to the government to do everything in its power to stop or at least decrease these occurrences. Trump is a bit extreme, but he's got the right idea about protecting U.S. borders and beefing up immigration controls. I also think we're living in the type of world that requires the U.S. to step up intelligence efforts in its own soil. Call it whatever you will.... it's called self-preservation.

On the international front:

The U.S. needs to stop creating enemies at every turn. There is ZERO need for the U.S. to appoint itself "world policeman". ZERO. Theoretically, as long as there isn't a direct threat against the U.S. or its people, there should be ZERO need for the U.S. to be butting its nose where it's not wanted. Leave other countries be, and let them resolve their own problems. Of course, there is that slight detail called "economic interests." So let's be frank and call a spade a spade. The U.S. butts into other countries affairs a lot of times based on economic special interests. That being the case, they (U.S.) should just come out and say it. "Look... we say we're interested in your internal affairs, but in reality we're just after your oil."

Iraqis are the only ones justified to attack US interests out of retaliation for the Iraq Invasion.

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You guys are going at it good. ;D Who needs Beanz to fight with? ;D

I'll inject my two cents then leave you gents to duel it out.

On the Abdul front:

There's no excuse for that type of terror, and it's up to the government to do everything in its power to stop or at least decrease these occurrences. Trump is a bit extreme, but he's got the right idea about protecting U.S. borders and beefing up immigration controls. I also think we're living in the type of world that requires the U.S. to step up intelligence efforts in its own soil. Call it whatever you will.... it's called self-preservation.

On the international front:

The U.S. needs to stop creating enemies at every turn. There is ZERO need for the U.S. to appoint itself "world policeman". ZERO. Theoretically, as long as there isn't a direct threat against the U.S. or its people, there should be ZERO need for the U.S. to be butting its nose where it's not wanted. Leave other countries be, and let them resolve their own problems. Of course, there is that slight detail called "economic interests." So let's be frank and call a spade a spade. The U.S. butts into other countries affairs a lot of times based on economic special interests. That being the case, they (U.S.) should just come out and say it. "Look... we say we're interested in your internal affairs, but in reality we're just after your oil."

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I agree with that. You reflect well on the need to maintain sensible immigration policies, whilst at the same time honestly appraising the overreach of US foreign policy. The problem is that the word sensible no longer correlates with either of those two areas.

Miles no one would dare to criticize you that you have become as you say a person with a new perspective or a person who has written some rather ridiculous flip-flopping things in the past sometimes bordering on silly or laughable and THEN how you conveniently blamed them on yoir being fickle or having drunk too much alcohol etc.. and NOW that you love to say that people change and that we should move on. I am all for all of those good words but why does it only apply to you? If I would cite a previous post that you made in the past you would say don't dredge that up why bring that back from the past people can change we should move on and try to be better etcetera and that and yet there you are bringing up one of my posts from over 1 year ago about cutting the throats of US soldiers in Afghanistan like rats.

. Isn't that a bit of hypocrisy there? @Gandalf