Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
I'd like to think kov would have some bargaining power
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
Kov always gets the short end of purses against B Hop and Ward. Kov just gets in there and fights. He is a god of a warrior like Kratos.
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
He'll get whatever the rematch clause says he gets. You don't negotiate from a position of no power, that would be foolish. You work that out while you have leverage. Expect the best but prepare for the worst.
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
I wouldn't necessarily say he's got no power. It's not like Ward got an undisputed decision. Ward needs this, if only to make clear what wasn't made clear the first time. If he tries to come back with some ridiculous split knowing full well Kov can't accept it, he's a punk.
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
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I wouldn't necessarily say he's got no power. It's not like Ward got an undisputed decision. Ward needs this, if only to make clear what wasn't made clear the first time. If he tries to come back with some ridiculous split knowing full well Kov can't accept it, he's a punk.
If Ward can weasel out of it he will
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
Its going to be bad. 70-30 again at least. It will be bad enough that Kovalev could walk. Because if you can have 3 belts, fight a returning guy that looked lousy in his tuneups, just got to your division and you're only pulling down 28% (not counting whatever Kov's cut of ppv earning was --160k buys) ... You win the fight in most people's opinion and get screwed out of a victory, are you willing to do it all over again for 15%?
You know ward and rock nation are going to try to press every advantage and even try to create more where there's not.... I'd wait till wards first intermediary fight (you know hes gonna ask for at least one or two) can't draw flies to sh*t and kovalev smashes someone else before negotiating percentages. It wont pull their heads completely out of the clouds but the numbers should at least be better than what roc nation is thinking now. They wont even negotiate because Ward its tired from fight his first hard fight in 6 years. :rolleyes:
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
What are you guys talking about negotiating? This stuff should all be hashed out in the rematch clause. If it wasn't his manager should be fired.
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
I thought this was about the higher ppv price they are sure to ask for ;D Won't make that mistake again :-X
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
Ward probably needs a decisive win much more than Kovalev in the eyes of the average fan because Kov will always be a crowd pleaser, regardles of whatever decision he gets. More so if it's such a questionable decision.
I think he actually does have plenty of bargaining power over Ward. So I'd say W-90%-K-10%.:p
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
I read that Ward's team is potentionally stating there really isn't a rematch clause. If they do pass on the Kovalev fight for now I'd hope he'd fight Stevenson and the Kovalev after that.
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
Kov should just stay active and fight Stevenson or whoever to win back a title and force Ward for the rematch but ask for more money.
Ward needs Kov as no one really wants to watch Ward unless it is someone that presents a challenge to him.
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
He is doing the Floyd retire threat. I highly doubt he will on such a high. He will make a number of defenses first.
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
He's gonna have some bargaining power for the one and only reason that Ward doesn't draw jack and shit at the gate. He will have a bigger part because he's the champion but the fact that he doesn't drag noting, where Kovy does a lot, means that they will be willing to let a little go so he makes money.
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
"Seriously considering retirement"??
News flash, Ward:
You're already retired... at least in some fans' minds.
Let's see now...
1 fight in 2012
1 fight in 2013
ZERO fights in 2014
1 fight in 2015
two bums in 2016, leading up to.....
1 good, but VERY controversial fight against Kov (with ZERO chance of a rematch)
Yep... time to wrap up a career.
Good riddance and don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
Seriously people, stop talking about bargaining. It's all already agreed. It was in the rematch clause as I said it would be because that's how contracts work. Kathy confirmed the numbers are all agreed already.
When we let simple stuff become a debate promoters get to spread their lies in with all the other confusion. Keep the simple stuff simple.
Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2..Money
And had already retired himself for years. I can't see him going out now