The poor 35 year old guy England locked up for a year for putting a bacon sandwich on a mosque in England was found dead in his cell
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The poor 35 year old guy England locked up for a year for putting a bacon sandwich on a mosque in England was found dead in his cell
Thank you for bringing attention to this news. He did more than put bacon in a mosque he admitted the racially-motivated attack on the Mosque in Bristol as well as putting a St George flag with the words ‘no mosques’ tied to the fence.
Lovely guy.
Alright not the brightest move but a non violent offender given a year in jail. I mean it wasn't the crime of the century. Do u think his death had to do with the Muslims in prison. Or maybe he ate too much baconQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
You know better than to post rubbish like this, you worked in prisons and the criminal justice system.
He got a year, in our country that is a lot his friends got suspended sentences which means he must have had previous.
Lets see what he died from first.
When you read the site that this news came from, you can tell they are inciting racial hatred. They are brain washing vulnerable people and this person may have been one.
What site it's on national news and I do think a year for this type of crime is extreme
And yes I do know what happens in prison it would not surprise me if his murder was reprisal. I'm not saying it was but I wouldn't be surprised
Oh what didn't u like my headline that was just me being sarcastic I will stick by what I said about the sentencing being extreme not defending the actions
Our criminal justice system is soft in comparison to the system in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
For this person to get a year, when his friends who were also found guilty were given suspended sentences means he has done this before. That is why he got a year in all probability.
You may be right but we are going the other way on non violent offenses. Something like this I would hope to see fines and probation but political pressure probably stuck it's head up. I'm not talking about what his friends got it's irrelevant I'm talking about the year sentence. If it happened in the us I'd be even more pissed with the sentence. Politics should not sit behind the bench but it always does
I think we have had some crazy sentences for putting swastikas on temples in the us. Again, stupid crime but if u don't have a record and do such a thing why bother with jail.
On the Off Topic boards ? If you really gave a damn about the bloke you would not be so sarcastic. If you really did work in the Criminal Justice System then you will know that without knowing about his previous convictions, reading any of the reports, interviews or even being in court your assessment of the sentencing is pretty pointless. If you want to throw your lot in with the boo boys and carry on inciting division and hatred then that is a bit sad. Saddo was never like this before. It was a cut above other forums in at least attempting to show all sides of a debate and not being entirely made up of shallow sensationalist click bait. Pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
That is the point I am making, which you miss, he must have had previous. What his friends got is relevant as they did not get sentenced and he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
The clues are there.
You do not get a custodial sentence here very easily. Even for this offence his friends did not go to prison.
Some of them did but the sentences were suspended its on their records as if they did. I can find no mention of previous crimes do u know if he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is the point I am making, which you miss, he must have had previous. What his friends got is relevant as they did not get sentenced and he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
The clues are there.
You do not get a custodial sentence here very easily. Even for this offence his friends did not go to prison.
Islam is NOT a raceQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ah yes that dreaded racist symbol the actual flag of England :vd:
It should be on their records, it is a despicable crime. For this person to be imprisoned, he must have had previous. Our prisons are overcrowded and you have to commit a serious crime or be a persistent offender to be imprisoned.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusSome of them did but the sentences were suspended its on their records as if they did. I can find no mention of previous crimes do u know if he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is the point I am making, which you miss, he must have had previous. What his friends got is relevant as they did not get sentenced and he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
The clues are there.
You do not get a custodial sentence here very easily. Even for this offence his friends did not go to prison.
One of his codefendants got nine months. I can find no mention of him having a record do you know if he did have a record. It appears he didn't. A year is just too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt should be on their records, it is a despicable crime. For this person to be imprisoned, he must have had previous. Our prisons are overcrowded and you have to commit a serious crime or be a persistent offender to be imprisoned.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusSome of them did but the sentences were suspended its on their records as if they did. I can find no mention of previous crimes do u know if he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is the point I am making, which you miss, he must have had previous. What his friends got is relevant as they did not get sentenced and he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
The clues are there.
You do not get a custodial sentence here very easily. Even for this offence his friends did not go to prison.
I'll tell you a fine, sensitivity training and probation would have been adequate. You disagree that's fine but it wasn't violent and jail just makes people worse. jails do too much damage to humans and it's just a big money making scheme in the western world. If u are not violent there are other options. He shouldn't have wasted the food to boot.
WAIT--- so Im not up on this case---- a guy put a bacon sandwich on a mosque and hung an insulting sign and got ONE YEAR IN PRISON? Master may be right if he had a previous criminal activity this would excacerbate the sentence, but if his previous was just misdemeanors, one year seems excessive beyond belief. If he had previous nonviolent misdemeanors, he could have gotten 30 or 60 days TOPS. Any more than 90 days for a bacon sandwich is WAY BEYOND REASONABLE.
I could hear you drooling before you even posted and it wasn't the smell of bacon that left you drooling. You can stop rubbing your hands together now :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
My word, how utterly dare you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzI could hear you drooling before you even posted and it wasn't the smell of bacon that left you drooling. You can stop rubbing your hands together now :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzOn the Off Topic boards ? If you really gave a damn about the bloke you would not be so sarcastic. If you really did work in the Criminal Justice System then you will know that without knowing about his previous convictions, reading any of the reports, interviews or even being in court your assessment of the sentencing is pretty pointless. If you want to throw your lot in with the boo boys and carry on inciting division and hatred then that is a bit sad. Saddo was never like this before. It was a cut above other forums in at least attempting to show all sides of a debate and not being entirely made up of shallow sensationalist click bait. Pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
I know nothing much about this case, nor any previous offences the court took into consideration.
However, I did see a picture of the bloke and he looked like a fat subnormal chav.
Therefore, it was right and proper that he was placed in a jail, where he might get murdered by another fat subnormal chav.
Logically, that is the most effective way to reduce the amount of fat subnormal chavs.
That is all. ;)
What's wrong with the main boards I didn't swear or say anything that bad. Beanz you are funny and I appreciate your new attitude but you can be annoying. Master is just misguided so I forgive him.
That does make sense and I need to reevaluate my thoughtsQuote:
Originally Posted by X
May I ask the MODS to forgive walrus as he has been triggered and he was not in his safe space.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Also working in criminal justice actually made me realize how screwed up the system was. @Beanz so you know my job was to help people get out of jail when we deemed it appropriate something I was very passionate about. I saw way too many mental health issues being incarcerated because the system had no where to put them which is unconstitutional. Had u ever worked in it you would know. Perhaps master worked from the other side but not me. I've seen people held in jail as they couldn't afford a 150 dollar fine.
Cook County Jail (Chicago) is the largest Mental Health facility in the United States....it's a shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Oooooh you @ mentioned Beanz.....don't you know he's triggered by that?
I agree that in the States it seems from an outsider that they are very quick to lock people up that could be helped in other ways and that mental health services are incredibly underfunded on both sides of the pond. The fact remains none of us are privy to all the facts in this case. None of us have seen his precons nor have we read any of the reports etc. We aslo do not even know if he died of natural causes. So it is just click bait to frame it like you have and it just cheapens th e site and makes it look like Trump Supporters any old chav is welcomeQuote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Oh heavens me, it "cheapens the site" :gay5:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
No, perhaps u were drooling to much but that was a question I posed saying I found no evidence he had previous crimes. If he had no previous major offenses I think the government taking a year of life for the crime is uncalled for just as I said that bail on the Muslim fellow who committed fraud at his little shop someone posted is extreme. If u Brits thinks the punishment fits the crime it's your perogTive
Ps in Israel they discourage school children from using the t or plus sign as it resembles the cross
I love Saddo's.
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We love u too but Puerto Rican women have bad tempersQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I wish someone would leave me bacon sandwiches on my doorstep every morning
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Originally Posted by Batman
I disagree, being a non muslim and being quite partial to a bacon sarnie it would be quite a nice little surprise for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabonghttp://www.vomzi.com/wp-content/uplo...st-gif-551.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Batman
He previous crimes are often not revealed to the mediaQuote:
Originally Posted by walrus
You're not Muslim?!?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanI disagree, being a non muslim and being quite partial to a bacon sarnie it would be quite a nice little surprise for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabonghttp://www.vomzi.com/wp-content/uplo...st-gif-551.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Batman
You RACIST!
You can ask them but even a priest may have trouble forgiving WalrusQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustMay I ask the MODS to forgive walrus as he has been triggered and he was not in his safe space.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
If u inserted wife instead of priest u would have been spot on. I she's mad at me now as I'm refusing to continue to paint today as I need to go into work tonight. I'm about to run upstairs and hide offing of the tvQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzYou can ask them but even a priest may have trouble forgiving WalrusQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustMay I ask the MODS to forgive walrus as he has been triggered and he was not in his safe space.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus