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Kill em All. The album not making a suggestion :-X. RIP Cliff! Wait what?
kill them? who said that? But if Trump or his supporters were saying this shit it would be #ProtectHillaryQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
I love Metallica and still love Kirk... but he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer!
Even the other guys in Metallica can barely stand him. On Metallica's new album he was completely left out of the song writing process for the first time, because he was a dope and couldn't be relied on. He claimed he had all these great riffs for the album, but he recorded them on his iPhone and then lost the iPhone and he couldn't remember any of them lol
Epic Fail , and no that is not an album title :-X The only one having a meltdown is the Mark Dice arsehole ranting down the camera, yourself and Lyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustkill them? who said that? But if Trump or his supporters were saying this shit it would be #ProtectHillaryQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Hammett tweeting a bunch of stuff is hardly a meltdown. If you are going to get all girly about who you LIKE and don't like according to the personal views of the band members then you missed that boat when Metallica trashed any cred that might have had amongst Punks with the Corporate Napster bullshit.
Then to expand upon your meltdown with vid after vid of inane rubbish ? Get a life man, move on your man/boy got in and has made it quite clear he is very willing to fuck things up for everyone.
"America First, Brexit means Brexit " What does that even mean?
Glen had a point
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WyC7Hyexw4
I'm a big Metallica fan .... they sort of invented a new genre, then went off the boil for a few years, but have come back with a bang with their new album, Moth into Flame.
I am completely uninterested in their politics or their personal opinions about anything, whatsoever. I like their music.
i am a Roger Federer fan, and couldn't care less about his politics (whatever they are). I am a Usain Bolt fan, but don't care what his favourite colour is. I think Dan Carter is a great rugby player, but I'm not interested in what his favourite vegetable is.
Get real, people!
I went to Metallica's concert in San Juan last October, and now I'm thinking about asking for a refund.
Metallica died when they did 'Some Kind of Monster'.....therapy sessions?!?!?! That was straight out of fucking 'Spinal Tap'. They are so fucking full of themselves...politics? They are musicians of course they have a more left wing take on things.
I don't watch movies or listen to music based on someone's politics, if I did then every movie would star ME and every song would be sung and played by ME and hell I don't always agree with myself if you give me long enough to think about it.
I'm not a Metallica guy I liked Van Halen and Guns'N'Roses better than them always have always will....and I am CERTAIN that Van Halen and GNR have very similar political views to Metallica but I don't care just play the fucking music and shut the fuck up! Act and shut the fuck up!
Alec Baldwin, complete loony tune lefty and quite possibly a horrible human being....I love his work as an actor Hunt For Red October, Glengarry Glen Ross...fucking brilliant. The more he spouts off about politics, the harder time I have enjoying his movies but I still enjoy them.
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Brilliant, ha ha ha !
Would that be the same as only listening to opinions that are the same as yours, blocking any internet content that doesn't chime with your own viewpoint, and then continually surfing the net for inane videos that chime with your own world view, and then posting them continuously? I suspect we may have a couple of people like that on this forum, which contains less and less boxing threads. ;)
Incidentally, I am going to see GnR this summer!!
If a band or actor go out of the way to make a political statement that I disagree with it will turn me off from rushing out to see something they made. I won't necessarily boycott them but I will stop rushing to see what they made.
I still post to the boxing forum on this site X but I believe you'll agree that as of right now bigger things are happening outside of boxing than inside of boxing ergo my commenting on such. We don't ONLY talk boxing here, we talk different topics with other boxing fans do we not? Otherwise the forum would just be the boxing and training forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
Good for you, I saw Axle Rose and Dizzy Reed as GNR on the Chinese Democracy tour....Mr. Rose was in good shape and sang quite well. The wife and I are going to see Red Hot Chili Peppers this Spring.
The disgust I felt watching a bunch of 40-something rock stars (one with bleached blonde hair like Eminem) talking about their feelings... I can't even describe. As a huge Metallica fan I can't watch that. I'd rather walk in on my mother performing a rusty trombone on a hispanic. I have several times and I know it isn't as bad as Some kind of Monster ;D Saint Anger sucked ass too btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Death Magnetic and their latest one are good, not great, but I enjoy them.
Agree with vidgil and walrus
Then PM Vidgil and Walrus. Seriously mate I do not give a toss what Mark Dice thinks or what he has found to be outraged about. Stop sending me videos in PM's from the guy, he is no better than the idiots he is bemoaning. Someone needs to smack him square in the mouth. Not because he is offensive because is a whinging dick. His only opinion seems to be "ooh look at these libtards moaning", well duh stop giving them exposure then Dice you sad twat.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by Beanz
#1. 'Someone needs to smack him square in the mouth.'
How very PROGRESSIVE and TOLERANT of you.
#2. 'well duh stop giving them exposure then Dice you sad twat.'
Do you honestly believe that will stop them???
Oh God Beanz talk about whinging about one single solitary PM you are worse than Dice you Chav.
Speaking of Metallica and politics, I listened to James on the JRE and he was talking about how he had to move away from San Fransisco because there were way too many snowflake lefties casting judgement on his lifestyle (big hunter) and beliefs. He lives in a small town in Colorado now.
Queers, FEMS, castrated gender-confused GENETIC REJECTS. SF will "go under" soon. 9.1 on the Richter Scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidgil
Stop them what / Having a different opinion to him? Or a different opinion to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
#1. 'Someone needs to smack him square in the mouth.'
How very PROGRESSIVE and TOLERANT of you.
:vd: Seriously Lyle? and you think that the rest of the world had trouble interpreting what Trump meant? Figuratively not literally he is so in love with his own outrage he is absolutely no different to the lefties you so waste your energy despising.
But while we are on the point there comes a point when facism and far right nutters will so get used to standing on people's toes and intimidating communities that the right and proper thing to do is to resist, and sometimes that means socking someone in the mush. I am talking about the kind of people that will set fire to an immigrants shop or surround a black guy to beat the crap out of him without even a second thought . Not You, or Dice, or Brockton, but those people exist in large numbers here not just the States.
#2. 'well duh stop giving them exposure then Dice you sad twat.'
Do you honestly believe that will stop them???
Beanz, Beanz, Beanz....whatever will we do with you :shakehead:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzStop them what / Having a different opinion to him? Or a different opinion to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
#1. 'Someone needs to smack him square in the mouth.'
How very PROGRESSIVE and TOLERANT of you.
:vd: Seriously Lyle? and you think that the rest of the world had trouble interpreting what Trump meant? Figuratively not literally he is so in love with his own outrage he is absolutely no different to the lefties you so waste your energy despising.
But while we are on the point there comes a point when facism and far right nutters will so get used to standing on people's toes and intimidating communities that the right and proper thing to do is to resist, and sometimes that means socking someone in the mush. I am talking about the kind of people that will set fire to an immigrants shop or surround a black guy to beat the crap out of him without even a second thought . Not You, or Dice, or Brockton, but those people exist in large numbers here not just the States.
#2. 'well duh stop giving them exposure then Dice you sad twat.'
Do you honestly believe that will stop them???
Yes, I believe the Left has a "YUGE" interpretation problem. They have interpreted President Trump as beign equal to the end of their world....that is what most folk call "hyperbole"
hy·per·bo·le
hīˈpərbəlē
noun
exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
Ah it's the RIGHT that "will so get used to standing on people's toes and intimidating communities"? That so Beanz? The RIGHT is shutting down campus speakers? The RIGHT is assaulting people? The RIGHT is doing that? That is projection at it's finest Beanz, the left are the new Victorians, the perpetually offended delicate special little snowflakes attempting to dictate what I can say or do or how I'm able to express myself. And if there are blows thrown.....well then may God have Mercy on the Left because I fucking won't.
When I say "stop them", I mean stop them from being insatiable authoritarian thought police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0
That's an old clip, but this kind of thing happens to who Beanz? To Democrats? To Leftist celebrities? To people who buy into the SJW college campus mentality? No it ONLY happens to those who disagree with it! Milo Yiannopolous, Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter.....well it DID happen to Bill Maher after his "thought crime" of insulting Islam on his show so UC Berkeley didn't allow him to give a commencement speech, it's happened to Ayaan Hirsi Ali....hell even Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinijhad wasn't no platformed when he spoke at Columbia, take a fucking second to look into this Beanz, I don't think you're stupid, but I do think you're blinded by your politics, and yeah I know that's ironic coming from me, but again, Lefties ain't shut out like that and don't tell me there aren't any despicable lefties out there, there are a LULU!
Lyle that clip is from 2012 and you have posted it umpteen times. I am talking from personal experience not from watching some Youtube. When I was growing up the National Front were very active and people from minorities getting jumped and beaten up was an everyday fact of life. So if I was on a march with the anti-nazi league and boots started to fly, damn right I am going to stand my ground and not back down. You are trying to teach your Granny to suck eggs. When you are part of a group that is affected you soon learn that you cannot just keep your head down and wish it away. What you are talking about here is in no way comparable. Yes there are offensive idiots on the left that want to shut down debate but you are doing the very same thing several times a day when you put the entire left into one group and dismisss them on mass on the behaviour of extreme examples. That is not the same thing as real facists who exist and are starting to crawl out of the woodwork because the climate has now made it acceptable to air repugnant voices about ethnic cleansing and to take their fight out into neighborhoods.
Trump does not help things when he refuses to speak out against those extremists. Do you think the entire womens marches across the world the day after his inauguration were composed of misguided stupid idiots who simply wanted to shout their mouths of in an act of self aggrandizing hyperbole ? Millions around the world and you are putting them all into the same category and dismissing them. You would seemingly defend Trump whatever he says. The fact that you have such an issue with Universities and can't stop yourself from wanting equivalence with all those who have genuine beef puts you into the same camp as those celebrity gobshites who just want to shout the loudest and have everyone pat them on the back.
The women's marches are funded by George Soros they are not a group of people protesting they are a group of people being manipulated when I say funded I mean he and move on dot org and a number of other of Hillary supporters planned this shit. It's very said how they use peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
What a load of rubbish. The womens marches happened all over the world and were attended by millions of people who would not be seen dead supporting Hilary Clinton. I don't want to be patronising but do all Americans see everything in such a blcck and white binary way, in fact no I will withdraw that because I know for a fact many Americans are not so reactionary and simplistic. Your politics is so adversarial that this is an almost inevitable consequence. No consensus building just tear lumps out of the other side and stop any progress being made. We have the same thing here and all it serves is the people at the top of the pyramid shitting on everyone else below.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusThe women's marches are funded by George Soros they are not a group of people protesting they are a group of people being manipulated when I say funded I mean he and move on dot org and a number of other of Hillary supporters planned this shit. It's very said how they use peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
The hilarious thing about this thread is that it is started by someone who clearly is not even a Metallica fan sharing a video of some prick who makes a living by moaning about lefty SJW's or whatever bollocks is the latest acronym, ( I mean even that SJW (it's text speak OMG teenage girl stuff and this is from the new hipster alt right that Brock and Lyle worship in the fervour and eagerness to be anti establishment much like the libtards they are both mocking and mirroring in EVERY way ha!) . What is the guy genuine problem that he must make an entire Youtube episode from ? Someone in a band tweeted something that he finds offensive the VERY SAME THING that he is jumping down the throat of other people who find Trumps innane ramblings offensive. The difference being if you are in a punk or metal band your job is to be fucking offensive ...duh? What a joke the new right is. Pussies.
Beanz I'm serious it was all backed and started by Soros and his people it's not hard to find
beanz the SJWs are the pussies, not the law & order Trumpsters.
I posted the clip because that is relevant it happened to Warren Farrell a former member and president of New York City's chapter of NOW....and that is the climate on campuses all over the west due to the Left!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Oh the National Front was around in 1810? I would not know about it I'm not a facist but keep lumping me in with them and see where it gets you.
Anti-FA is like most Lefty things, good SOUNDING but full of horrible shit! Bunch of commies and anarchists.
Where are all the SJW's (your teenage girl text speak acronym not mine ) threads started in response to being offended by the Trumpster or his groupies tweets then ?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
This very thread is you posting a trumpster moaning about a tweet that does not suck up to the Don. That is a pretty pussy thing to do.
If you are all so robust and secure then why are still days after his election on high alert defense duty ?
I mean Lyle is still addicted to updating his anti-woman (who are not exactly as he prescribes they should be) dressed up as anti-feminist thread, and you are on a non-stop roll posting thread after thread of goobldeegook about how you want the police to lock up transgender people or put immigrants in internment camps. That your idea of being a man is it?
Sounds a lot more like miaow to me
They do sound rather threatened. The man is in, he wants to bring back torture, thinks invading countries and stealing their resources is a good idea, he appoints bankers and war mongers and all the Trumpsters can do is moan about SJW's? They ignore what is happening and pick out the extreme examples of those who resist. It is very childish. Then they wonder about the psychology of Nazi Germany. :vd:
Hitler did nothing wrong . You have said that milesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I have never said that. Hitler was clearly a crazed dictator. What I have suggested is that we don't always know the complete truth about Nazi Germany because the West has made it its mission to turn WW2 into a battle between 'good' and 'evil' and in a situation like that the 'winners' make the history and the 'losers' have to be branded, and of course in the case of Nazi Germany, there was a lot wrong with how the state behaved. For instance, the holocaust clearly happened, but I don't know for sure that the numbers are as high as in the higher estimates. Some historians question that, the numbers go up and down depending on source. Also, Nuremberg ended up being a 'victor's court' where every crime carried out by the Nazi's was deemed evil, but it ignored that the allies carried out numerous war crimes of their own. It's good to put war criminals on trial, but it is hypocritical if you are going to let your own war criminals walk free as happened. There was only a Nuremberg for the Germans.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusHitler did nothing wrong . You have said that milesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
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Originally Posted by GandalfI have never said that. Hitler was clearly a crazed dictator. What I have suggested is that we don't always know the complete truth about Nazi Germany because the West has made it its mission to turn WW2 into a battle between 'good' and 'evil' and in a situation like that the 'winners' make the history and the 'losers' have to be branded, and of course in the case of Nazi Germany, there was a lot wrong with how the state behaved. For instance, the holocaust clearly happened, but I don't know for sure that the numbers are as high as in the higher estimates. Some historians question that, the numbers go up and down depending on source. Also, Nuremberg ended up being a 'victor's court' where every crime carried out by the Nazi's was deemed evil, but it ignored that the allies carried out numerous war crimes of their own. It's good to put war criminals on trial, but it is hypocritical if you are going to let your own war criminals walk free as happened. There was only a Nuremberg for the Germans.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusHitler did nothing wrong . You have said that milesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the need to constantly try and "overanalyze" everything. It's good to question and dig. But when facts stare you in the face. When you've seen real footage of the horrors committed by the Nazis directed by Hitler. When you consider Hitler's penchant for invading countries for the hell of it. When you hear personal accounts from some of the perpetrators themselves...... Why would you want to keep going over it with a fine-toothed comb? Some things in life are indeed gray. Most things, actually. But once in awhile, events happen that are clearly black or white. Where there is an absolute right and an absolute wrong. No need to nitpick and find fault where there isn't any, IMO. Were war crimes committed by the Allies? Very likely so. It was a war.... a massive war, fought on many fronts. War in itself is full of suffering, stressful decisions, anger, misery. Atrocities are bound to happen on both sides. Questioning numbers of slaughtered Jews is something else I don't get. So does a million less slaughtered men, women and children make it any less of an unspeakable tragedy? What does it matter in the overall scheme of things? Many armed conflicts have blurred sides and motives. The war against Nazi Germany wasn't one of them.
My points were to counter what Walrus said. It doesn't make anything less of a tragedy to go over anything, but people have a general perception of good versus evil and it wasn't as cut and dry as that. The lines were much more blurred. Churchill had a lot of blood on his hands too. The carpet bombing of Dresden was a case in point. Clear examples of war crimes, but at the end of the war, it was all about holding Germany completely responsible and like you say there were blurred sides and motives. Hitler was obviously deranged and it was a terrible tragedy that he was voted in. A very dangerous man, so it was wrong to say that I said Hitler did nothing wrong. I just look at sources and question narratives really, but it isn't a subject I have read about for a long while.Quote:
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Originally Posted by GandalfI have never said that. Hitler was clearly a crazed dictator. What I have suggested is that we don't always know the complete truth about Nazi Germany because the West has made it its mission to turn WW2 into a battle between 'good' and 'evil' and in a situation like that the 'winners' make the history and the 'losers' have to be branded, and of course in the case of Nazi Germany, there was a lot wrong with how the state behaved. For instance, the holocaust clearly happened, but I don't know for sure that the numbers are as high as in the higher estimates. Some historians question that, the numbers go up and down depending on source. Also, Nuremberg ended up being a 'victor's court' where every crime carried out by the Nazi's was deemed evil, but it ignored that the allies carried out numerous war crimes of their own. It's good to put war criminals on trial, but it is hypocritical if you are going to let your own war criminals walk free as happened. There was only a Nuremberg for the Germans.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusHitler did nothing wrong . You have said that milesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the need to constantly try and "overanalyze" everything. It's good to question and dig. But when facts stare you in the face. When you've seen real footage of the horrors committed by the Nazis directed by Hitler. When you consider Hitler's penchant for invading countries for the hell of it. When you hear personal accounts from some of the perpetrators themselves...... Why would you want to keep going over it with a fine-toothed comb? Some things in life are indeed gray. Most things, actually. But once in awhile, events happen that are clearly black or white. Where there is an absolute right and an absolute wrong. No need to nitpick and find fault where there isn't any, IMO. Were war crimes committed by the Allies? Very likely so. It was a war.... a massive war, fought on many fronts. War in itself is full of suffering, stressful decisions, anger, misery. Atrocities are bound to happen on both sides. Questioning numbers of slaughtered Jews is something else I don't get. So does a million less slaughtered men, women and children make it any less of an unspeakable tragedy? What does it matter in the overall scheme of things? Many armed conflicts have blurred sides and motives. The war against Nazi Germany wasn't one of them.
I dont know where Miles you get the gall to come across like that "oh I dont know if the numbers are as high as the higher estimates", do you even need to mention such pedantry? trying to quantify a genocide as if 4 million 700k Jews isnt the same as 6 million? How utterly dare you actually bother saying that a difference of a million or 2 really matter when we are talking about the most heinous, dark, sinister evil (besides genghis khan) to ever befall mankind.
My word, yes Miles, keep pumping the "Trump wants to steal others' resources" poppycock. The ONLY reason he said take the oil is to preclude what has actually happened Miles: ISIS HS THE OIL AND USES IT TO FUND THEIR HORRIFIC AGENDA. Damn, son, context, CONTEXT.
It is just being honest, I do not not if the numbers are as high as stated by some or as low as stated by others. I have not carried out the research myself. Questioning narratives is healthy. Does it matter? Well, if it doesn't matter then maybe we should just replace history with past copies of the Daily Mail which is seemingly your kind of thing when it comes to accuracy. You really don't seem to be questioning any narratives lately. You have becoming quite extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Either way this conversation has gone on a tangent because Walrus lied and deflected from my main point.
@Gandalf Ive been trying to tell you since 2014 that walrus is a cunt and you have fought me every step of the way. Now, MAYBE NOW, you are starting to see what the fuck I was talking about all these years.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIt is just being honest, I do not not if the numbers are as high as stated by some or as low as stated by others. I have not carried out the research myself. Questioning narratives is healthy. Does it matter? Well, if it doesn't matter then maybe we should just replace history with past copies of the Daily Mail which is seemingly your kind of thing when it comes to accuracy. You really don't seem to be questioning any narratives lately. You have becoming quite extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Either way this conversation has gone on a tangent because Walrus lied and deflected from my main point.
Hang the Pope hang the Pope hang the Pope
Hang the Pope hang the Pope hang the Pope
Hang him with a fucking rope
Let's go to the Vatican, get him out of bed
Put the noose around his neck and hang him till he's dead
Hang the Pope hang the Pope hang the Pope
Hang the Pope hang the Pope hang the Pope
Hang him with a fucking rope
Let's go to the Vatican, get him out of bed
Put the noose around his neck and hang him till he's fucking dead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXghCfbqJg