Hi everyone, I have asked this before to a boxer and he never really answered it.
How do most good boxers go about creating hand speed ?
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Hi everyone, I have asked this before to a boxer and he never really answered it.
How do most good boxers go about creating hand speed ?
Welcome.
You have hand speed or you do not.
You are born with it and you can not learn it.
It is natural.
Elasticity is one of the components for speed.
By having a strong corr and flexible TFL.
Tensor Faciae Latae.
So no matter how hard you train,you cannot improve ? I don't think it works like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ali was a natural, but he still got faster by training.
Here's a guy with fast handsQuote:
Originally Posted by toyotajoeSo no matter how hard you train,you cannot improve ? I don't think it works like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ali was a natural, but he still got faster by training.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YulsRb7DY18
Well, there you go-----------------Bye
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Originally Posted by toyotajoe
Thanks Master let's keep this thread filled with factual info.Quote:
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Hi toyotajoe et al,
You asked:
Well, first off, your hand speed potential is determined by the ratio of fast twitch muscles fibers to slow twitch muscle fibers that you are genetically born with. So, if you got 'em, you're naturally blessed with hand speed. If not, that's the way the cookies crumbled for you.Quote:
How do most good boxers go about creating hand speed ?
With the above said, a fundamental way good boxers enhance their genetically-endowed hand speed is by having efficient form and biomechanics in all their punches and associated footwork, which is honed through good coaching and purpose-driven training.
On a more specific note, I highly recommend using alactic anaerobic energy system HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) protocols to fully develop all the speed and power you're genetically and athletically capable of generating. Instead of me writing a novel explaining and formatting this for you, I suggest doing a Google search on this subject where you'll find plenty of info that will assist you in this endeavor.
Ah, what the heck; just to whet your appetite to pursue more info, here's an alactic anaerobic HIIT protocol I highly, highly recommend for you and everyone else reading this to incorporate into your training for maximal speed and power development in your punches. What you do is blitz a heavy bag, focus mitts, etc. with all-out, full-speed, full-power punching barrages for 2 sets of 5-6 reps for 7-10 seconds each (no longer than that) with everything you can muster out of yourself (maintaining good biomechanical form in the process). Do this protocol twice-a-week and you'll eventually squeeze out every ounce of your potential.
Now, though it may or may not feel like it, this type of alactic anaerobic training heavily, and I mean heavily, taxes the CNS (Central Nervous System); so it is very important to take long rests in between reps and sets to allow for full recovery because you do not want to do this protocol under fatigue, which would defeat the purpose of why you're doing this protocol in the first place. It is so very important to do your reps in a "fresh" state (i.e. heart rate at 120 bpm or below). Anyway, the recommendation is to rest 2-5 minutes between reps and 8-15 minutes between sets. Now, these rest periods may seem long to you, and they relatively are when compared to traditional methods of training; but it is extremely, extremely important to heed them as recommended because we're not looking to develop muscular or cardiovascular/respiratory endurance here; we're strictly looking to maximize speed and power development here. With that said, rest period times should be increased to the high end limits listed on the last two or three reps of each set, especially on the second set. If you do not heed this, you will at some point suffer from CNS fatigue burnout, which will diminish rather than enhance skill performance and take some time to recover from. On last thing about the rest, you don't have to just stand or walk around during these periods. You can rest actively by doing some light activities such as shadow boxing, easy rope jumping, light cycling, or just lightly skipping/shuffling your feet around and shaking your arms & shoulders loose, which all serve to speed up recovery; just don't get carried away and overdo it. Remember, it's supposed to be rest.
On an FYI note, the above protocol is designed to increase how fast your alactic anaerobic energy system can produce and regenerate ATP (Adenosine Triphosphate), which is the energy source that allows you to perform as fast and powerfully as you can.
Hope this helps you out...
Take Care,
Lito
As the above poster said it is genetic and you either have it or not.
You can certainly improve speed.
Is some of it have to do with keeping lactic acid low?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
Its the reverse.Plus understanding, your environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by red foxIs some of it have to do with keeping lactic acid low?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
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Thank you for the bit of wisdom. I will start implementing this in the gym.
Timing is something that is better to focus on rather than just hand-speed.
This video explains it pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KEYB8NbjCI
Hi Remy et al,
Good video!
When it comes to honing your timing for real-world (sport or street) give-and-take/back-and-forth match fighting of any kind (i.e. boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, grappling, MMA, street fighting, etc), sparring is absolutely the best thing you can do to improve it...bar none. On this note, there are various types of purposeful sparring you can do starting with isolation sparring with singular-objectives for each combatant (offensively and/or defensively), progressing to multiple-objectives sparring (again, for each combatant...both offensively and/or defensively), culminating in full-on, unrestricted, uninhibited, spontaneous sparring where both combatants let loose with their complete game (i.e. full arsenal of strategies, tactics, and techniques).
With the above said, maximizing your speed potential in an isolated manner, along with your capacity to apply it, is still a very useful thing to do to get the most out of yourself in that regard. The isolated improvements in speed, explosive speed (and the capacity to apply it), can and will be seamlessly integrated into the mix when you purposefully spar.
If you truly want to become good at fighting (of any kind), you must spar and not just for timing's sake, but for a whole host of other practical reasons.
Take Care,
Lito
I've read some good comments in here. Lito for one. It is a fundamental rule of any athlete that you CAN improve on performance. I have a grand daughter who runs track. When she started she was fast. But over the past two years she has trained under a good coach and she got FASTER, and placed fourth at state level. This year, she will most likely get a scholarship for college because she has even improved on her past record. If it were true that you can not improve beyond what you are, there would be no hope for anyone in sports.
Just as a addition to the comments made I would recommend you go back to the basics Get on the heavy bag and start with snapping your punches quckly and returning to your defensive stance. Dont worry at first about how hard you are hitting. Keep your stance and your balance, then get into moving with your snap punching. Do not bulk up pumping iron. Have someone with a stop watch time your combinaton punches...that will give you a base line to work on speed. Practicing snap punches will improve your speed. It's a prove fact. Then you start putting some power behind those punches with your body and you are good to go. It's hard to type really so many other thngs that might factor in impovement. Hope this gives you some insight. I am 74 years old and fought with and trained hundreds of boxers, and beyond the quitters and bums, the fighter who listened to his trainer, himself, and others more skilled, I never saw anyone who did not improve.
We have had boxers in training who had problems with hand speed. Some of it was due to what I call laziness. They had become so acostomed to throwing slow and calculated punches that they were getting counter punches before the defensive stance and footwork could kick in.
Can you improve speed? Absolutly. Any trainer knows you can improve anythng, if you first recognize the problem, put your mindset into improving it, and then devote concentration and time into the training.
Improving hand speed is simply learning the technique of 'snap punching'. Have a video made of yourself in training, or in actual fighting, and see after you throw a punch if there is the slightest hesitation after delivery, in returning your arm and hand back into a defense posture, or a follow up punch. Chances are you will see it.
Simple solution: Work on snap punching on the heavy bag with a partner. First work on a snap punch and how fast it takes to return to your protectve stance. Then move to concentrate on delivery of a snap punch with force behind it. Next move delivery of a power snap punch and movement of the body to the side or backward. It takes time and concentration at the beginning until he becomes muscle memory. Snap punching is tied into fitness and stamina, so keep that in mind in your overall training.
I watched a football show yesterday and they practice and exercise the mind to become alert and improve it reactions to certain situations. That will improve the speed.
Its understanding what actually moves you is the starting place, plus the mechanics that apply.
This article will basically say everything I have to say on the subject:
https://www.brawlbros.com/punch-faster/
A little lengthy but worth the read.
Punching faster starts with the Feet, in relation to the Head. Its called posture, plus the position of the Coccyx, its called Balanced Body. It stops movement mechanics.
i punch with my coccyx and my punches arrive before I throw them, its like they happened already, theyre already there on the target, I cant explain it
Its something Ive been in to for years, Then the triathletes I work with, bought me some Sole less, Shoes. Wow do these things take you to a different level in balance, and understanding of Balance.
If you push yourself out with claps and throw heavy balls, your hands will be fasterQuote:
Originally Posted by toyotajoe
Hows this sound, Slower you go, the Faster you become,
That is a fact,