Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

So looks like Wilder has found a fill in opponent who doesn't test dirty :-X and Feb. 25th date is on. The good news on Washington is he's huge at 6'6 roughly 250 lbs. And he's undefeated, on paper. The bad news is he's yet another ex Football-basketball second rater turned boxer. He was caught clean and dropped by Tank Williams and near ran..literally..for his life vs Mansour.

Glad Wilder is back but slowly but surely just feels like his career is on perma pause. Wonder how his hands will hold up after big surgery.

THE fight is on undercard with jr middles Jarrett Hurd vs Tony Harrison going at it! Have a sneaking suspicion Jarrett Hurd is on his way to uuuge things. Kid looks the full package and very entertaining.

Ummm.....who?

Another disgrace

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So looks like Wilder has found a fill in opponent who doesn't test dirty :-X and Feb. 25th date is on. The good news on Washington is he's huge at 6'6 roughly 250 lbs. And he's undefeated, on paper. The bad news is he's yet another ex Football-basketball second rater turned boxer. He was caught clean and dropped by Tank Williams and near ran..literally..for his life vs Mansour.

Glad Wilder is back but slowly but surely just feels like his career is on perma pause. Wonder how his hands will hold up after big surgery.

THE fight is on undercard with jr middles Jarrett Hurd vs Tony Harrison going at it! Have a sneaking suspicion Jarrett Hurd is on his way to uuuge things. Kid looks the full package and very entertaining.

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Hurd has one of the best short uppercuts in boxing.

Washington isn't horrible, maybe just because he's huge and reasonably athletic, in some ways he for sure is horrible. If it wasn't such a trend for Wilder you could give it a pass due to the injury and layoff thing, but yeah another crap fight for sure.

For a short notice replacement it isn't that bad it certainly could have been worse, I can't really blame wilder for taking on someone like this after the original opponent dropped out again :S... It's a shame the original opponent was a bit crap to start with.

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Originally Posted by palmerq

For a short notice replacement it isn't that bad it certainly could have been worse, I can't really blame wilder for taking on someone like this after the original opponent dropped out again :S... It's a shame the original opponent was a bit crap to start with.

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Agreed. At late notice, it's not a bad replacement. Certainly no worse than the original opponent.

AJ has fought worse so can not be too critical.

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Originally Posted by Master

AJ has fought worse so can not be too critical.

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Fought worse as a champion? I dont think so, Washington Breazeale Molina are all in the same second tier bracket. The difference is, after 2 relative gimmes, Joshua has moved onto Wladimir.


Havent seen an awful lot of Washington but he looks like he cant actually fight. Doesnt look like he hits too hard. Went life and death with Mansour so he's obviously brilliant. He'll hang around for a bit before getting in the way of one of Wilders helicopter propellers.

Washington looks credible on paper, decent win over Eddie Chambers

BoxRec - Gerald Washington

itd have been nice for wilder to fighter a bigger name but its not bad for a 4 week replacement

I hope wilder has a big fight next mind

BTW, Wilder will be 32 this year.

No big deal. Just mentioning it because I'd hate to hear 6-7 years from now:

"Ok..... NOW we're ready for a huge fight, or a unification battle, against an elite opponent."

To be fair Wilder had his bags packed before that cheating cunt Povetkin got collared, but you are left wondering if he'll ever have a serious/massive fight.

He'll get chinned even at this level before long. When you see how AJ has dealt with the same competition, it's more a case of Wilder's limitations making them look good than Joshua being THAT good.

Wilder had a chance to be BIG TIME he really did, but he only looks spectacular when he has spectacular odds in his favor. I think Povetkin could have done him in roids or not, he's just a sharp boxer.


Wilder's career reminds me quite a bit of this guy BoxRec - Faruq Saleem




Very very sad

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Originally Posted by erics44

Washington looks credible on paper, decent win over Eddie Chambers

BoxRec - Gerald Washington

itd have been nice for wilder to fighter a bigger name but its not bad for a 4 week replacement

I hope wilder has a big fight next mind

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as Eric says, it's not a bad replacement. Makes me laugh when people criticize these guys as if they're a piece of shit . Whereas if this fellah was a Brit, he'd be the second coming of Christ! look at his record and tell me which Brits have better names on their CV's.
Fury before beating Wlad - NO . Had a World title shot.
Chisora - NO. well nobody that he's actually beaten. Had a World title shot.
Hughie Fury - NO. Being lined up for a World Title shot.
Dillian Whyte - NO. Being touted for a World title shot.
so before people say "He can't fight" or "He's an ex-tiddlywinks player", think about how you see the above names.

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Washington looks credible on paper, decent win over Eddie Chambers

BoxRec - Gerald Washington

itd have been nice for wilder to fighter a bigger name but its not bad for a 4 week replacement

I hope wilder has a big fight next mind

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as Eric says, it's not a bad replacement. Makes me laugh when people criticize these guys as if they're a piece of shit . Whereas if this fellah was a Brit, he'd be the second coming of Christ! look at his record and tell me which Brits have better names on their CV's.
Fury before beating Wlad - NO . Had a World title shot.
Chisora - NO. well nobody that he's actually beaten. Had a World title shot.
Hughie Fury - NO. Being lined up for a World Title shot.
Dillian Whyte - NO. Being touted for a World title shot.
so before people say "He can't fight" or "He's an ex-tiddlywinks player", think about how you see the above names.

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18-(12 KO)-0-1 is great....HE'S 34 FUCKING YEARS OLD!

That tells me if this guy was going to be somebody he would have done it by now.

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Washington looks credible on paper, decent win over Eddie Chambers

BoxRec - Gerald Washington

itd have been nice for wilder to fighter a bigger name but its not bad for a 4 week replacement

I hope wilder has a big fight next mind

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as Eric says, it's not a bad replacement. Makes me laugh when people criticize these guys as if they're a piece of shit . Whereas if this fellah was a Brit, he'd be the second coming of Christ! look at his record and tell me which Brits have better names on their CV's.
Fury before beating Wlad - NO . Had a World title shot.
Chisora - NO. well nobody that he's actually beaten. Had a World title shot.
Hughie Fury - NO. Being lined up for a World Title shot.
Dillian Whyte - NO. Being touted for a World title shot.
so before people say "He can't fight" or "He's an ex-tiddlywinks player", think about how you see the above names.

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18-(12 KO)-0-1 is great....HE'S 34 FUCKING YEARS OLD!

That tells me if this guy was going to be somebody he would have done it by now.

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I'm not saying he's gonna do anything. I'm not even saying he's any good. All I'm saying is a.) it's not the worst late replacement and b.) if he was a Brit , he would be (over) rated more so.

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

I'm not saying he's gonna do anything. I'm not even saying he's any good. All I'm saying is a.) it's not the worst late replacement and b.) if he was a Brit , he would be (over) rated more so.

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True if he was British he'd have more support on here.

I think Wlad would KO The Atomic Windmill, BUT......
I think AJ would smoke The Octopus @palmerq @mrbig1 @Batman @pacfan

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For a short notice replacement it isn't that bad it certainly could have been worse, I can't really blame wilder for taking on someone like this after the original opponent dropped out again :S... It's a shame the original opponent was a bit crap to start with.

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Agreed. At late notice, it's not a bad replacement. Certainly no worse than the original opponent.

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I actually like this opponent better than wawryk( i don't know how to spell polish names :S) at least washington hasn't been destroyed by povetkin, the polish fellow was blown away in a couple of rounds by povetkin who is the only credible opponent he has faced(I think he beat botha too but botha is 100 years old and well past it).. Washingtons record isn't great either, a points win against an aging eddie chambers( i liked eddie btw) and a draw with mansour isn't the best but at least he hasn't been blown away by someone and he is tall, strong and in good condition. Two undefeated americans fighting for the world title is pretty interesting sounding on paper too.

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I think Wlad would KO The Atomic Windmill, BUT......
I think AJ would smoke The Octopus @palmerq @mrbig1 @Batman @pacfan

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I agree the atomic windmill is not going to unify a lot of belts but I like him he does seem to have a good take anyone on attitude, looks like his managers have other ideas though... I would like to see wilder take on whoever the wbo champion may be after this fight, wilder v fury jr or parker would be pretty fun and a close contest.. Let the winner of joshua/ wladimir real (-fury) title fight deal with king kong.

Washington wouldn't be "the next coming" if a Brit. We have plenty of heavyweights/fighters with sexy records - Gary Cornish, Tom Dallas, Dave Allen, Larry OBoots etc - who are never seen as future world beaters, because the ultimate proof is seeing them fight not looking at records. The same goes for Washington - he's not bad but an obvious ex-American football player that came to boxing late.

British fighters like AJ and Price were decorated amateurs before turning pro. Guys like Chisora and Fury made their name by steadily having success as they moved up in class - area, continental, commonwealth, British, European - before proving themselves at world level. Whyte was a nobody but hit the jackpot by beating AJ in the amateurs, then put his money where his mouth is and made a name for himself.

On this forum only ross thinks Hughie Fury is the second coming.

Wilder has boxed awful opposition since becoming the titleholder (and before then too). So has Joshua.

Tyson Fury, to be fair to him, at least beat Klitschko for the title.

The lack of depth and quality in the heavyweights is mainly to blame for this. There are probably only 4 or 5 good heavyweights out there, and having multiple belts just exposes that shallowness.

wishful thinking, but if there was only one champion, we may get some more exciting matchups going forward instead of this bum of the year roadshows that they have to do at the moment.

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For a short notice replacement it isn't that bad it certainly could have been worse, I can't really blame wilder for taking on someone like this after the original opponent dropped out again :S... It's a shame the original opponent was a bit crap to start with.

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Agreed. At late notice, it's not a bad replacement. Certainly no worse than the original opponent.

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I actually like this opponent better than wawryk( i don't know how to spell polish names :S) at least washington hasn't been destroyed by povetkin, the polish fellow was blown away in a couple of rounds by povetkin who is the only credible opponent he has faced(I think he beat botha too but botha is 100 years old and well past it).. Washingtons record isn't great either, a points win against an aging eddie chambers( i liked eddie btw) and a draw with mansour isn't the best but at least he hasn't been blown away by someone and he is tall, strong and in good condition. Two undefeated americans fighting for the world title is pretty interesting sounding on paper too.

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It's not terrible for a fill in and Washington was kept in the background on a couple of Wilder cards with situation like this in mind possibly. It's funny looking at the records now that you mention it. 19 fights in Washingtons comp buries Wilders at the same stage. In fairness though that can be said of many random decent heavyweights. Think only shot Washington has is early as his hands gradually drop and his stamina isn't stellar. On hand speed Wilder may just beat him to the punch every time.

Washington is a better opponent than Wawrzyk. Although it still seems like a very safe opponent choice.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Washington is a better opponent than Wawrzyk. Although it still seems like a very safe opponent choice.

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Considering he has been out of the ring for a considerable amount of time due to a serious injury it is anot acceptable opponent.

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Washington is a better opponent than Wawrzyk. Although it still seems like a very safe opponent choice.

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Considering he has been out of the ring for a considerable amount of time due to a serious injury it is anot acceptable opponent.

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As a replacement it's better than the original.

watched a few of his fights and hes not exactly a skilful fighter, in fact his style is pretty poor

but I suppose Wilder isn't much better in that department

I think the Breazeale vs Ugonoh fight on the undercard will be interesting.

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I think the Breazeale vs Ugonoh fight on the undercard will be interesting.

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yes it will, izu has been looking good at times on parkers undercards although his opposition has been pretty weak(gergory tony did beat carlos takam a good few years ago). Breazale is very big and not terrible so he is in with a good chance, I think this could end up being very close, I am betting on izu to win a decision though(it might go to breazale though:S)

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I think the Breazeale vs Ugonoh fight on the undercard will be interesting.

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yes it will, izu has been looking good at times on parkers undercards although his opposition has been pretty weak(gergory tony did beat carlos takam a good few years ago). Breazale is very big and not terrible so he is in with a good chance, I think this could end up being very close, I am betting on izu to win a decision though(it might go to breazale though:S)

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Breazeale gets disregarded because AJ took him out but he showed a lot of grit against Mansour. Izu is relatively untested but with KOs like the one over Quarrie whats not to like?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgah9FNoYqg

that is a very impressive ko, I think izu was also a pretty good kickboxer too before he turned pro as a boxer.. Breazale did pretty good v mansour too, he was losing and was in danger of getting ko'd but he came back and got a "lucky" punch to force mansour to quit, I guess he was fortunate that mansours mouthpiece was crap and he nearly bit his tongue in half :S but like you said he showed grit and toughness.

Speaking of mansour he is fighting travis kauffman in march I think, Kauffman had a pretty good fight with arreola and was unluky to not get the decision there, that could be a fun fight.

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that is a very impressive ko, I think izu was also a pretty good kickboxer too before he turned pro as a boxer.. Breazale did pretty good v mansour too, he was losing and was in danger of getting ko'd but he came back and got a "lucky" punch to force mansour to quit, I guess he was fortunate that mansours mouthpiece was crap and he nearly bit his tongue in half :S but like you said he showed grit and toughness.

Speaking of mansour he is fighting travis kauffman in march I think, Kauffman had a pretty good fight with arreola and was unluky to not get the decision there, that could be a fun fight.

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I had Kauffman winning that fight. Steve Cunningham is supposed to be on that card I think.

This will be on sky sports.

This looks a good sparko card on paper - Hurd-Harrison and Breazeale-Ugonoh look 50/50s. Quite fancy Harrison for the slight upset but know virtually nothing about Hurd apart from he looks massive at the weight.

Ugonoh is the weirdest looking Pole ever - Polish/Nigerian, had a load of fights in New Zealand yet lives in Las Vegas. Err.. what? Breazeale is a 2/1 dog.

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This looks a good sparko card on paper - Hurd-Harrison and Breazeale-Ugonoh look 50/50s. Quite fancy Harrison for the slight upset but know virtually nothing about Hurd apart from he looks massive at the weight.

Ugonoh is the weirdest looking Pole ever - Polish/Nigerian, had a load of fights in New Zealand yet lives in Las Vegas. Err.. what? Breazeale is a 2/1 dog.

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Living on an island that isn't that racially diverse I still double take when I see black people with Scottish or Irish accents on TV.

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This looks a good sparko card on paper - Hurd-Harrison and Breazeale-Ugonoh look 50/50s. Quite fancy Harrison for the slight upset but know virtually nothing about Hurd apart from he looks massive at the weight.

Ugonoh is the weirdest looking Pole ever - Polish/Nigerian, had a load of fights in New Zealand yet lives in Las Vegas. Err.. what? Breazeale is a 2/1 dog.

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Looking forward to Hurd and Harrison in what is now a trinket grab. Hurd looks like a guy with all the tools but do wonder is he gets too lackadaisical in spots. Inside work and finishing are top notch, but Harrison is no Jo Jo Dan. Long road back for sharp boxer Harrison who must feel like he's looking in a mirror prior to being ko'd by Wilson. He was doing well there until late and Wilson can punch. He may look a weight class below when they touch up but very solid match up, like Hurd tko.

A lot of negativity aimed at Wilder for not stepping up and taking bigger fighters (AJ just yesterday said he needs to stop picking fights and step up) but let's give Wilder a break, he had a genuine injury so as far as i'm concerned gets a pass here.

Wilder KO win for me

Deontay Wilder will look put injuries behind him and take a step toward title unification on Saturday when he defends his WBC world heavyweight title against Gerald Washington at the Legacy Arena in Birmingham, Alabama.


http://www.badlefthook.com/2017/2/21...-and-breakdown

Considering Wilder is coming back from a serious injury then this is a respectable defence. This will build up nicely to then face AJ later in the year or early next year.

Wilder has also talked a lot about unifying with Parker so if he looks to fight one of those guys next I'll give him a pass here. As long as he doesn't waste time with a Stiverne rematch.

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Originally Posted by erics44

Washington looks credible on paper, decent win over Eddie ChambersBoxRec - Gerald Washingtonitd have been nice for wilder to fighter a bigger name but its not bad for a 4 week replacementI hope wilder has a big fight next mind

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This is a good opponent on paper. He's beaten 4 or so names that I recognize.