question for people who have actually boxed regarding fighting when injured

If you have/had a fight coming up and wasn't 100% fit what would you do, would you consider pulling out or would you truck on through the pain?

Specifically I am talking about a whiplash sort of injury.

I mean whiplash can affect your neck, back and shoulders which to me would seem like a pretty fucking major thing to be struggling with when going into a fight, on the flipside though if you are a pro and you are getting paid for it would you let a whiplash injury with a prognosis of say 12 months stop you from fighting?

I've had whiplash and I know for a fact that for 2 months I could barely masturbate with my right hand so I know it can be debilitating but again the fighters brain works differently to the average persons.

What sort of checks do the BBBofC do before a fight or is it generally down to the fighter to ensure that he is physically fit enough to get in the ring?

This is something that is work related for me and its been doing my head in all day so I thought I'd come to the experts.

If I had a whiplash injury and was a boxer I would never spar never mind box in a match. Far too dangerous.

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If I had a whiplash injury and was a boxer I would never spar never mind box in a match. Far too dangerous.

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I'm talking 2 months after the accident then taking a fight, I'm not saying the dude was even really injured, he could have seen the accident as a way to make a quick £3000 I'm just wondering what the mindset is of actual fighters, I mean if you are a professional fighter a 12 month injury to your neck/shoulder is pretty fucking massive, I mean a broken hand has a lower recovery period than a 12 month whippy.

Also whiplash injuries are notoriously difficult to prove/disprove so would the BBBofC commision a fight if they were aware that someone was still potentially sufferring from that or is it down to the fighter himself, I'm actually looking for an argument to help the dude out, 99% of claims are fucking bull shit but this one has been thrown out because he is a boxer and because he had a fight whilst he was apparently still suffering from the injury.

p.s. I would have thought that sparring after having a brain injury that was serious enough to leave you in a coma would have been far too dangerous but apparently for some people it isn't.

Depends on the level pro or am and the situation. If the guy needs the money he may fight anyway whilst still injured.

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If I had a whiplash injury and was a boxer I would never spar never mind box in a match. Far too dangerous.

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"If I had a whiplash injury and was a boxer"
Well you haven't and you're not, so read the thread title and butt out, just like I have. Otherwise you'll have Ross on your back! 😉😂😂

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you'll have Ross on your back!

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Sounds kinky.

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you'll have Ross on your back!

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Sounds kinky.

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I'm guessing you haven't had the pleasure of meeting Ross yet? If Ross was on Masters back he'd staple a picture of Tyson Fury to the back of his head

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you'll have Ross on your back!

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Sounds kinky.

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I'm guessing you haven't had the pleasure of meeting Ross yet? If Ross was on Masters back he'd staple a picture of Tyson Fury to the back of his head

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And happily bum fuck him ;D

Behave Smashup. It's not like your relationship with Haye;)

How did this thread end up so gay?

Blame Alpha, I reckon this newbie is a bit of a sexual deviant

Sorry I was just having some fun. @Master chin up dear you don't need Tyson's help to keep @ross interested.

I had 56 amateur fights and can only remember two or three when I was 'perfect'. Every other bout was with me carrying an injury or having some sort of niggle.

If you're training hard for a fight, or a tournament, you put your body under tremendous stress and pressure, plus you're doing hard sparring. Injuries are statistically very likely.

I always assessed things by 1) how much the injury will affect my performance and therefore the risk of losing and 2) if it was a latent injury, like a bad back or whiplash, how likely is it to flare up during the bout.

I pulled out of one fight because of those assessments.

The real reason Rocky Marciano retired was that he was carrying a latent back injury, and by the end of his career it could have 'gone' at any time in the ring.

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I had 56 amateur fights and can only remember two or three when I was 'perfect'. Every other bout was with me carrying an injury or having some sort of niggle.

If you're training hard for a fight, or a tournament, you put your body under tremendous stress and pressure, plus you're doing hard sparring. Injuries are statistically very likely.

I always assessed things by 1) how much the injury will affect my performance and therefore the risk of losing and 2) if it was a latent injury, like a bad back or whiplash, how likely is it to flare up during the bout.

I pulled out of one fight because of those assessments.

The real reason Rocky Marciano retired was that he was carrying a latent back injury, and by the end of his career it could have 'gone' at any time in the ring.

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Cheers, I wanna help the dude out and let him know that he can still pursue his claim but I just can't see as though the courts would accept him fighting when he was supposedly injured.

Me experience is you are never 100% when a fight is coming up. But whiplash is a deal breaker. Sorry man, you need to heal.

​To be honest, if the guy can seriously consider getting in the ring and fighting then he probably doesn't really have bad whiplash and shouldn't be making any Claim!

ive boxed as well as taken part in many other sports and I think for boxing you need to be in tip top peak condition more than anything else maaaaaaaaannn

I've had many many injuries. The were always ones I feared more than others. Neck, back and feet are a few things on the body where if they aren't right, nothings right. Some neck and back problems don't even require movement for them to really hurt you. Mostly because involuntary actions like breathing, laughing, sneezing or coughing can tweak you just enough to really cause you stabbing pain. Pain in your feet can cause problems with your back and neck sometimes because the interconnected tendons and ligaments and muscles can fatigue as your adjust your posture to compensate or favor the injured foot/leg. Anti-inflammatories are your best friend but also can give you a false sense of security (leaving you prone to doing more damage)... After learning what they can do to your heart later in life, I avoid them now... and go the natural road to recovery.

I used to compete with injuries. I used to pride myself on fighting through the pain because Hagler was my idol and I would remember his comments about Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns pulling out of fights for injuries. You are never 100% if you are training hard, but whiplash, tendon damage...etc., is reason to postpone/not fight.

Mentality and confidence are vitally important for combat sports, and is the main reason why undefeated fighters are so difficult to beat. Looking back now, I realize I did myself a disservice, and that while I pulled some good victories out, the damage/losses sustained from fighting injured limited my growth/ability to reach the next level. In addition to the career implications, my body is a mess today. My shoulders are done, and I can't do pull ups or bench without severe pain these days.

If I could talk to my younger self, I would tell the young me to take care of my body, and set myself up for success by coming to every fight as close to 100% as possible, and taking time off to let my body (and mind) heal. The real problem, however, is that I was given that very advice and let my ego overwrite my common sense.