NASA Mission to search for life on Europa
Missions | Europa Mission
Europa - Overview | Planets - NASA Solar System Exploration
"Europa - an icy moon of Jupiter - is slightly smaller than Earth's moon. It is unique in the solar system, being thought to have a global ocean of water in contact with a rocky sea floor. If the ocean is proven to exist, Europa could be a promising place to look for life beyond Earth."
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What are the things I love the most about freedom is that he always post stuff about astrophysics. That is one of my favorite topics of all time
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brocktonblockbust
What are the things I love the most about freedom is that he always post stuff about astrophysics. That is one of my favorite topics of all time
We could send you to the moon. :)
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It’s a near certainty that life exists on other planets (not just maybe Proxima B) but many other planets.
The only way that this isn’t true is if there’s a god who has only decided to create one planet with life.
That blue dot ? It’s 200 light years (A light year is 5.88 trillion miles or 9.5 trillion km) in diameter. It happens to represent how far all of our radio communications have travelled through space… ever.
This is how far they’ve gotten after two hundred years travelling at the speed of light (186,000 miles a sec)
https://i0.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...pszpetsgpg.png
Our galaxy (The Milky Way)
https://i1.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...psm9q9cbil.jpg
Our solar system is the tiny, insignificant part of the blue dot, which is a tiny insignificant part of our galaxy.
Our solar system makes up just 0.01% of the area of that blue dot. And the blue dot is 0.0004% of the area of the our galaxy and there are 100+ billion galaxies. So our galaxy isn’t even significant in the scheme of things.
Just to put that into perspective – If you have just $1, you are much closer to Bill Gates’ net worth ($79.1 billion) than this galaxy (Milky Way) is to the number of total galaxies. Our solar system is pretty insignificant
So if creating life were easy enough to happen once by random chance then it’s probable enough to happen many times. Because the universe is so fucking big it's unreal
More importantly what would life on other planets look and be like ?
I would not expect humanoid development to be a universal rule of any sort. Life on earth takes on many forms. We have life that’s totally underwater, that flies, that is intelligent, that isn’t, that lives on top of mountains, that lives with virtually no water.
So lifeforms on other planets may look quite a bit different.
What if the dinosaurs were never wiped out? Would one of them have developed humanlike intelligence?
Who knows Europa might be full of dinosaurs?
https://i2.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...psbtdikq6t.jpg
Or if Proxima B planet (the Earth-like planet that circles Proxima Centauri, the nearest star to the Sun.) has low gravity and an atmosphere three times denser than Earth’s, then animals as large as whales might find flying cool, according to scientists.
https://i2.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...ps6ihpc5n8.jpg
When you think that the universe has been around for 13.8 billion years and the earth for 4.6 billion years, and life on earth for 3.6 billion years. Then humans have only been around for 200,000 years, but it was only 10,000 years ago that agriculture (arguably the start of “modern civilization”) began.
10,000 years is nothing in comparison to the history of the world. As badass as humans think we are – It doesn’t take much of a “head start” to be way ahead of human civilisation.
If you ask me, we’re probably best off not encountering other intelligent life. The benefits are intellectual, maybe some science advancement.
But the risks if the life we find is more advanced than us?
Massive.
Just ask any civilisation on earth that encountered more advanced cultures.
Would any say that they’re the better for it?
Of course, we have little choice in the matter. It’s the more advanced cultures that tend to discover the less advanced cultures, since it’s advancement that offers the ability for exploration. If we encounter other lifeforms that are more advanced, they’ll likely found us.
Let’s just hope it goes well.
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denilson200
It’s a near certainty that life exists on other planets (not just maybe Proxima B) but many other planets.
The only way that this isn’t true is if there’s a god who has only decided to create one planet with life.
That blue dot ? It’s 200 light years in diameter. It happens to represent how far all of our radio communications have travelled through space… ever.
This is how far they’ve gotten after two hundred years travelling at the speed of light.
https://i0.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...pszpetsgpg.png
Our galaxy.
https://i1.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...psm9q9cbil.jpg
Our solar system (Milky way) is the tiny, insignificant part of the blue dot, which is a tiny insignificant part of our galaxy.
Our solar system makes up just 0.01% of the area of that blue dot. And the blue dot is 0.0004% of the area of the Milky Way and there are 100+ billion galaxies. So our galaxy isn’t even significant in the scheme of things.
Just to put that into perspective – If you have just $1, you are much closer to Bill Gates’ net worth ($79.1 billion) than this galaxy (Milky Way) is to the number of total galaxies. Our solar system is pretty insignificant
So if creating life were easy enough to happen once by random chance then it’s probable enough to happen many times. Because the universe is so fucking it's unreal big.
More importantly what would life on other planets look and be like ?
I would not expect humanoid development to be a universal rule of any sort. Life on earth takes on many forms. We have life that’s totally underwater, that flies, that is intelligent, that isn’t, that lives on top of mountains, that lives with virtually no water.
So lifeforms on other planets may look quite a bit different.
What if the dinosaurs were never wiped out? Would one of them have developed humanlike intelligence?
Who knows Europa might be full of dinosaurs?
https://i2.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...psbtdikq6t.jpg
Or if Proxima B planet (the Earth-like planet that circles Proxima Centauri, the nearest star to the Sun.) has low gravity and an atmosphere three times denser than Earth’s, then animals as large as whales might find flying cool, according to scientists.
https://i2.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...ps6ihpc5n8.jpg
When you think that the universe has been around for 13.8 billion years and the earth for 4.6 billion years, and life on earth for 3.6 billion years. Then humans have only been around for 200,000 years, but it was only 10,000 years ago that agriculture (arguably the start of “modern civilization”) began.
10,000 years is nothing in comparison to the history of the world. As badass as humans think we are – It doesn’t take much of a “head start” to be way ahead of human civilisation.
If you ask me, we’re probably best off not encountering other intelligent life. The benefits are intellectual, maybe some science advancement.
But the risks if the life we find is more advanced than us?
Massive.
Just ask any civilisation on earth that encountered more advanced cultures.
Would any say that they’re the better for it?
Of course, we have little choice in the matter. It’s the more advanced cultures that tend to discover the less advanced cultures, since it’s advancement that offers the ability for exploration. If we encounter other lifeforms that are more advanced, they’ll likely found us.
Let’s just hope it goes well.
Full of dinosaurs or maybe white supremacists ?
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Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
denilson200
It’s a near certainty that life exists on other planets (not just maybe Proxima B) but many other planets.
The only way that this isn’t true is if there’s a god who has only decided to create one planet with life.
That blue dot ? It’s 200 light years in diameter. It happens to represent how far all of our radio communications have travelled through space… ever.
This is how far they’ve gotten after two hundred years travelling at the speed of light.
https://i0.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...pszpetsgpg.png
Our galaxy.
https://i1.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...psm9q9cbil.jpg
Our solar system (Milky way) is the tiny, insignificant part of the blue dot, which is a tiny insignificant part of our galaxy.
Our solar system makes up just 0.01% of the area of that blue dot. And the blue dot is 0.0004% of the area of the Milky Way and there are 100+ billion galaxies. So our galaxy isn’t even significant in the scheme of things.
Just to put that into perspective – If you have just $1, you are much closer to Bill Gates’ net worth ($79.1 billion) than this galaxy (Milky Way) is to the number of total galaxies. Our solar system is pretty insignificant
So if creating life were easy enough to happen once by random chance then it’s probable enough to happen many times. Because the universe is so fucking it's unreal big.
More importantly what would life on other planets look and be like ?
I would not expect humanoid development to be a universal rule of any sort. Life on earth takes on many forms. We have life that’s totally underwater, that flies, that is intelligent, that isn’t, that lives on top of mountains, that lives with virtually no water.
So lifeforms on other planets may look quite a bit different.
What if the dinosaurs were never wiped out? Would one of them have developed humanlike intelligence?
Who knows Europa might be full of dinosaurs?
https://i2.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...psbtdikq6t.jpg
Or if Proxima B planet (the Earth-like planet that circles Proxima Centauri, the nearest star to the Sun.) has low gravity and an atmosphere three times denser than Earth’s, then animals as large as whales might find flying cool, according to scientists.
https://i2.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...ps6ihpc5n8.jpg
When you think that the universe has been around for 13.8 billion years and the earth for 4.6 billion years, and life on earth for 3.6 billion years. Then humans have only been around for 200,000 years, but it was only 10,000 years ago that agriculture (arguably the start of “modern civilization”) began.
10,000 years is nothing in comparison to the history of the world. As badass as humans think we are – It doesn’t take much of a “head start” to be way ahead of human civilisation.
If you ask me, we’re probably best off not encountering other intelligent life. The benefits are intellectual, maybe some science advancement.
But the risks if the life we find is more advanced than us?
Massive.
Just ask any civilisation on earth that encountered more advanced cultures.
Would any say that they’re the better for it?
Of course, we have little choice in the matter. It’s the more advanced cultures that tend to discover the less advanced cultures, since it’s advancement that offers the ability for exploration. If we encounter other lifeforms that are more advanced, they’ll likely found us.
Let’s just hope it goes well.
Full of dinosaurs or maybe white supremacists ?
Same thing
Re: NASA Mission to search for life on Europa
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Originally Posted by
denilson200
It’s a near certainty that life exists on other planets (not just maybe Proxima B) but many other planets.
The only way that this isn’t true is if there’s a god who has only decided to create one planet with life.
That blue dot ? It’s 200 light years in diameter. It happens to represent how far all of our radio communications have travelled through space… ever.
This is how far they’ve gotten after two hundred years travelling at the speed of light.
https://i0.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...pszpetsgpg.png
Our galaxy.
https://i1.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...psm9q9cbil.jpg
Our solar system (Milky way) is the tiny, insignificant part of the blue dot, which is a tiny insignificant part of our galaxy.
Our solar system makes up just 0.01% of the area of that blue dot. And the blue dot is 0.0004% of the area of the Milky Way and there are 100+ billion galaxies. So our galaxy isn’t even significant in the scheme of things.
Just to put that into perspective – If you have just $1, you are much closer to Bill Gates’ net worth ($79.1 billion) than this galaxy (Milky Way) is to the number of total galaxies. Our solar system is pretty insignificant
So if creating life were easy enough to happen once by random chance then it’s probable enough to happen many times. Because the universe is so fucking it's unreal big.
More importantly what would life on other planets look and be like ?
I would not expect humanoid development to be a universal rule of any sort. Life on earth takes on many forms. We have life that’s totally underwater, that flies, that is intelligent, that isn’t, that lives on top of mountains, that lives with virtually no water.
So lifeforms on other planets may look quite a bit different.
What if the dinosaurs were never wiped out? Would one of them have developed humanlike intelligence?
Who knows Europa might be full of dinosaurs?
https://i2.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...psbtdikq6t.jpg
Or if Proxima B planet (the Earth-like planet that circles Proxima Centauri, the nearest star to the Sun.) has low gravity and an atmosphere three times denser than Earth’s, then animals as large as whales might find flying cool, according to scientists.
https://i2.wp.com/i374.photobucket.c...ps6ihpc5n8.jpg
When you think that the universe has been around for 13.8 billion years and the earth for 4.6 billion years, and life on earth for 3.6 billion years. Then humans have only been around for 200,000 years, but it was only 10,000 years ago that agriculture (arguably the start of “modern civilization”) began.
10,000 years is nothing in comparison to the history of the world. As badass as humans think we are – It doesn’t take much of a “head start” to be way ahead of human civilisation.
If you ask me, we’re probably best off not encountering other intelligent life. The benefits are intellectual, maybe some science advancement.
But the risks if the life we find is more advanced than us?
Massive.
Just ask any civilisation on earth that encountered more advanced cultures.
Would any say that they’re the better for it?
Of course, we have little choice in the matter. It’s the more advanced cultures that tend to discover the less advanced cultures, since it’s advancement that offers the ability for exploration. If we encounter other lifeforms that are more advanced, they’ll likely found us.
Let’s just hope it goes well.
@denilson200 did u get those facts from the African Union space program
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Master
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brocktonblockbust
What are the things I love the most about freedom is that he always post stuff about astrophysics. That is one of my favorite topics of all time
We could send you to the moon. :)
How about the Magnetosphere?
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Denny has blown his cover.
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Do you think that muslim suicide bombers are actually trying to launch themselves into space and havent yet got it right ?
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Yes because according to Aya number 3 of Surah Muzzamil:
"O Muhammad! We have launched you on a solid rocket booster into the Upper Atmosphere, of which the Unbelievers know not!"
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I actually think it is a waste of money to carry out missions like this. It costs a fortune to do that and I think that would be money better spent on trying to improve conditions here on earth. Just as people are turning away from globalism, I think people should turn away from space. Until we have a decent system on this planet and we can protect our own citizens, then we have no business poncing around looking for water on moons. We have plenty of water here and we are poisoning it on a daily basis. We need to get our priorities straight.
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Gandalf
I actually think it is a waste of money to carry out missions like this. It costs a fortune to do that and I think that would be money better spent on trying to improve conditions here on earth. Just as people are turning away from globalism, I think people should turn away from space. Until we have a decent system on this planet and we can protect our own citizens, then we have no business poncing around looking for water on moons. We have plenty of water here and we are poisoning it on a daily basis. We need to get our priorities straight.
A lot of positive has come out of space exploration and as long as private money is financing it a lot of it then it is worth it.
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I don't know, Master. I'm not sure we have discovered anything worth using here on earth. I am all for space exploration, but think we would be better off using the money to help people here and now. The world is in a horrible pickle and water on a moon just seems a bit of a silly distraction when dams are ready to burst after decades of infrastructure neglect. Seems all back to front to me.
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Gandalf
I don't know, Master. I'm not sure we have discovered anything worth using here on earth. I am all for space exploration, but think we would be better off using the money to help people here and now. The world is in a horrible pickle and water on a moon just seems a bit of a silly distraction when dams are ready to burst after decades of infrastructure neglect. Seems all back to front to me.
A lot of the technology is used in everyday products because of space exploration.
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That's back to front. There is no reason why we cannot innovate and just have it be for the good of the people rather than have to send it to the moon first.
The computers used to send us to the moon ended up being used to create credit systems so fat lot of good that one did us.
Nope, I don't see the point. Space exploration is a luxury and if the poor are getting poorer then it is money misspent.
At the end of the day only the elite are getting access once the planet is decimated, so let's ground them all and have them be dragged out of their bunkers instead. It serves no purpose for the common man.
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Scientists searching for evidence of life beyond Earth have discovered organic material on Ceres, the dwarf planet located between Mars and Jupiter.
The carbon-based materials, similar to what may have been the building blocks for life on Earth, were discovered by NASA's Dawn space probe.
The exact molecular compounds in the organics cannot be identified, but they match tar-like minerals such as kerite or asphaltite.
"The discovery indicates that the starting material in the solar system contained the essential elements, or the building blocks, for life," said Dawn's lead scientist, Christopher Russell.
"Ceres may have been able to take this process only so far. Perhaps to move further along the path took a larger body with more complex structure and dynamics (like Earth)."
Ceres, a Texas-sized rock-and-ice world about 590 miles (950 km) in diameter, is the largest object in the asteroid belt and is located about three times farther from the sun than Earth.
Its composition is thought to reflect the material present in parts of the solar system when it was forming some 4.5 billion years ago.
The organic material was found near a 31-mile-wide (50km) crater in Ceres' northern hemisphere and experts say the location and type of organics mean they cannot have been deposited by a crashing asteroid or comet.
The dwarf planet now joins Mars and several ocean-bearing moons of Jupiter and Saturn, among others, as places of interest to scientists looking for life beyond Earth.
"This opens the possibility that primitive life could have developed on Ceres itself," said planetary scientist Michael Kuppers of the European Space Astronomy Centre.
But Mr Russell was less bold, saying: "I think these organic molecules are a long way from microbial life.
"However, this discovery tells us that we need to explore Ceres further."
NASA finds life's building blocks on dwarf planet
