Thurman was beautiful last night
Simply amazing performance by 1 time. He showed everything that night, he boxed with great lateral movement at times and at other times came forward and walked Garcia down. He was so fluid between those two transitions and both were effective. I loved how focused he was too you could see it in his eyes and feel it, especially when he was measuring and probing with the feeler jabs. He definatley rose to the occasion this fight!
I think Errol takes out everyone at 147 but thurman is a man to be respected for sure! Powerful and can box, cerebral and confident.
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I'm not going to knock you for you opinion but if you ask me it wasn't that impressive at all, he won the fight but neither fighter shone in their performance and it was a bit of a soggy fart if I'm being honest
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infomer24
Simply amazing performance by 1 time. He showed everything that night, he boxed with great lateral movement at times and at other times came forward and walked Garcia down. He was so fluid between those two transitions and both were effective. I loved how focused he was too you could see it in his eyes and feel it, especially when he was measuring and probing with the feeler jabs. He definatley rose to the occasion this fight!
I think Errol takes out everyone at 147 but thurman is a man to be respected for sure! Powerful and can box, cerebral and confident.
It was an interesting fight but Garcia was not busy enough and Thurman nearly threw the fight away at the end by giving up the rounds running. Thurman could have blown the fight away like Oscar did against Tito.
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Garcia was the prize pig everyone was bidding on because he just looked so succulent. Looked like the knife would carve him up like butter. Then Thurman made Garcia look hard. I've never thought Garcia was as good as I think now. Thanks to Thurman.
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Garcia was the prize pig everyone was bidding on because he just looked so succulent. Looked like the knife would carve him up like butter. Then Thurman made Garcia look hard. I've never thought Garcia was as good as I think now. Thanks to Thurman.
You are right, I never rated Garcia at all and did not see what others saw in him that made them think he could beat Thurman. I honestly thought Thurman would easily beat Garcia and even stop him because I saw Garcia as slow, low tempo and mechanical.
However he must be good to really press Thurman throughout the fight and he landed some hard shots.
On the other hand Thurman running late nearly cost him the fight and he should have pressed the later rounds more to win convincingly.
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I think we all pretty much knew Garcia has slow feet and that Thurman would exploit that flaw by moving constantly and not allowing Danny to set his feet to punch. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so I'm not Knocking or insulting you for yours, but I don't agree at all about Thurman looking good in that fight. I feel like Thurman had some moments early, but overall did the bare minimum to eke out a win vs a much slower opponent. I feel that Lamont Peterson dominated and looked better vs Danny than Thurman did (and he "lost" that fight!).
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Wow it felt strange watching the fight and not being able to post until Monday morning... ;D
Anyway, maybe my bar is too low, but I thought it was a good fight. I didn't enjoy seeing Thurman run "a la De La Hoya" during the last round. At least it was only the last round and not the last 3 rounds, like DLH did. Still, it looked ugly and he got booed lustily. Hopefully someday, when they're fixing other rules in boxing which turn people off, they'll address some way to avoid this sprinting contest in the last rounds.
Other than that, I thought Thurman did what he had to do to win the fight. He used his speed, and engaged in enough exchanges to make the fight very exciting. But again, that's just me. I thought Danny gave it his best shot, but should've pressed more in the 2nd half of the fight, as it became apparent he was falling behind. Mikeeod's point about Garcia being a 140-pounder must be considered also. Some of the shots he connected would've probably had more of an effect on someone other than a natural 147-pounder like Thurman.
I thought they acquitted themselves quite well, and my thought is I've had to pay for a lot crappier fights than this one I watched for free.
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I think we all pretty much knew Garcia has slow feet and that Thurman would exploit that flaw by moving constantly and not allowing Danny to set his feet to punch. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so I'm not Knocking or insulting you for yours, but I don't agree at all about Thurman looking good in that fight. I feel like Thurman had some moments early, but overall did the bare minimum to eke out a win vs a much slower opponent. I feel that Lamont Peterson dominated and looked better vs Danny than Thurman did (and he "lost" that fight!).
I have said on another thread that I actually rate Garcia more now in defeat because I never thought he was that good.
I did expect Thurman to win far easier but think Danny is better than I thought and not Thurman being poor. Thurman could have done better at the end instead of giving the rounds away but his right hand bombs kept Danny concerned and contained.
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Oscar was much more dominant and boxed at a MUCH higher level against a MUCH tougher opponent. It isn't even close. Tito and Oscar blow both of these guys out, as does Ike Quartey. Oba Carr cries himself to sleep after watching that unification fight...
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I think we are being harsh on both fighters who are young undefeated champions before they face one another.
Informer24 is a boxer and appreciates the subtle skills involved and I have to support what he said. It was not a classic but it was good quality world class boxing.
Comparing these guys with Leonard/Hearns or Tito/ODH is impossible more Curry/McCrory.
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Thurman did what he needed to get the win. I would have liked to see him stand and trade more but that would have been disadvantage to his game plan. Garcia needed to light a fire under his as* earlier. He needed to rough Thurman up, go to the body more and cut of the ring to minimize Thurman's movement. I hope both guys continue to seek out the best opposition from here going forward.
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I don't mean to sound so negative. I think both men gave their all and I'm glad two guys at the top got into the ring. Just, I think we all knew everyone if they were going to unify would like to start with Garcia. He was widely considered the weakest champion and for good reason. Just, I think the fight really displayed more of the weaknesses than it showed the strengths.
Thurman showed he is a lot to handle for the first couple rounds with his speed and power.
And we say Garcia should have turned up the heat, but Thurman deserves credit that he did not. Thurman did enough early to keep Danny respectful.
And how would Danny turn up the heat anyway? Danny is slow of foot. His style is not to press because he doesn't have the feet for it. His style is to make the other fighter come to him and use his strength, his timing.
It will take someone with better feet to beat Thurman because Thurman has no issues with turning a fight into a stinker. It would just be nice if he didn't have to do that so often.
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Wow it felt strange watching the fight and not being able to post until Monday morning... ;D
Anyway, maybe my bar is too low, but I thought it was a good fight. I didn't enjoy seeing Thurman run "a la De La Hoya" during the last round. At least it was only the last round and not the last 3 rounds, like DLH did. Still, it looked ugly and he got booed lustily. Hopefully someday, when they're fixing other rules in boxing which turn people off, they'll address some way to avoid this sprinting contest in the last rounds.
Other than that, I thought Thurman did what he had to do to win the fight. He used his speed, and engaged in enough exchanges to make the fight very exciting. But again, that's just me. I thought Danny gave it his best shot, but should've pressed more in the 2nd half of the fight, as it became apparent he was falling behind. Mikeeod's point about Garcia being a 140-pounder must be considered also. Some of the shots he connected would've probably had more of an effect on someone other than a natural 147-pounder like Thurman.
I thought they acquitted themselves quite well, and my thought is I've had to pay for a lot crappier fights than this one I watched for free.
Thurman ran the last 2 rounds (arguable 3). De la hoya was nowhere near that bad. The running is just a myth with him. He stayed back a bit but he was still landing and moving with intent. Thurman was just running.
I get you are Puerto Rican though so you are going to have that opinion 😁
I tried to put my Puerto Rican bias aside.... and rewatched Round 12 of Trinidad-De La Hoya.
Sorry.
I could be Martian, and I would still think De La Hoya ran just as much, if not more, than Thurman in Round 12. ;D
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"Run Time" Thurman sucks major pole and will be brutalized by either Spence or Brook. He fades in the late rounds and is very open for body work.:rolleyes:
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infomer24
Simply amazing performance by 1 time. He showed everything that night, he boxed with great lateral movement at times and at other times came forward and walked Garcia down. He was so fluid between those two transitions and both were effective. I loved how focused he was too you could see it in his eyes and feel it, especially when he was measuring and probing with the feeler jabs. He definatley rose to the occasion this fight!
I think Errol takes out everyone at 147 but thurman is a man to be respected for sure! Powerful and can box, cerebral and confident.
Spence is a KO waiting to happen. I would like to see Thurman vs Spence now.
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I though it was a bit weak. If Garcia had some footwork Thurman would have been forced to dig deeper. A Hatton/Cotto type fighter would bust him up and stomp him down as he reverts to running.
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Well when you look at the fight the right guy rightful won thank god for that but it was pretty much Oscar vs Trindad fight. This time they at least did not screw Thurman who won the most rounds so he should win the fight.
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beautifully hued, borrowing from Anderson's ... Thurman spends half of the movie in night gown-like silky dresses, and the other in expensive sweaters and Wellies. ... One of last night's top looks.
