Pound-for-pound rankings: Gennady Golovkin is the new No. 1
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After Gonzales loses? Makes sense.
I hope that was sarcasm. Most thought Ward lost to Kov, most thought Gonzalez beat Sor Rungvasai.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
No I was not being sarcastic just think the p4p list is too open for interpretation and abuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI hope that was sarcasm. Most thought Ward lost to Kov, most thought Gonzalez beat Sor Rungvasai.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I thought War v Kov was just won by Ward or a draw can't remember how I scored it and thought Gonzales won.
Atlas doesn't have Golovkin or Chocolatito in his top 10 (;D). Two "experts" have Wilder.
ESPN p4p lists are usually a joke
P4P is pointless really. We all know who the best fighters are but our opinions will differ slightly depending on a number of things. It's better to say "one of the best boxers in the world" than try to rank them. I crack up when fans get all worked up about P4P lists and such.
These are all subjective, but I would have Ward and Loma ahead of GGG right now. After watching the success Jacobs had, imagine what Ward would do to GGG. That would've been a blowout. I'm really interested to see GGG in with a world class fighter with elite speed. Not saying he is a fraud or would automatically lose, would just like to see what a more active, faster version of Jacobs would do against him.
I've always thought that kovalev was better than GGG and never understood why he didn't get the same amount of love. I think that there boxing skills are pretty equal but I think that kovalev has more one punch fight ending power.
Kovalev should have beaten the potential best fighter in the world (ward). I can't imagine GGG winning against someone of that skill level. And I think that GGG is very good.
Doesn't it really all individually come down to what we as fans look for in a skillset and fighting style? It's marketability and can be flavor of the month. With trinkets or division reigns that is where the wheels can come off in subjectivity. Those are easily manipulated now and done for p4p strictly in mind it seems. Once I saw Broner ranked #5 p4p best boxer in the world is when I officially shredded all p4p releases and used them as kitty litter.
It's like those that have Wilder now. I seem to remember GGG being high on lots of lists going way back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Me thinks a bit of white bias. Here ? No ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
No just your bias shining through.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200Me thinks a bit of white bias. Here ? No ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Gotta say I wouldn't be putting GGG no.1 . But I would love to here your top 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200Me thinks a bit of white bias. Here ? No ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
I was thinking the same thingQuote:
Originally Posted by denilson200Me thinks a bit of white bias. Here ? No ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
A top 10 is never a clinical science. Never. There is always place to interpretation and there are many factors to take in consideration? Does GGG deserve the prime spot? Based on the fact that he never backs off a top fight, that most folks are scared of him and that he just bulldozer his opponents (save from Jacob who gave him a run for his money), there are some good arguments to justify that he does. That wouldn't be abusal to put him in second or third spot though, depends of the factors that one favor and once again, it's not a clean cut science and it is sometimes difficult to determine which factor is more important than another given one. Even though we could argue that X or Y would deserve better the first spot, it would always be by a small margin and in that respect, it is not a "nonsense" to think that GGG could deserve it.
Atlas = DementiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
He's a brilliant trainer but a very mentally unsteady folk. I wouldn't want him anywhere too close to me save perhaps for the pad sessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcallAtlas = DementiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
All of his training gigs appear to end on a sour note. Other than Rauuuuuuuuuuuuuul, he has no friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessHe's a brilliant trainer but a very mentally unsteady folk. I wouldn't want him anywhere too close to me save perhaps for the pad sessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcallAtlas = DementiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
'Teddy no Friends' fits so perfectly. You get the feeling he would always be trying to lecture you with some drawn out speal using a million metaphors filled with repetitiveness that would make your eyes glaze over.Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcallAll of his training gigs appear to end on a sour note. Other than Rauuuuuuuuuuuuuul, he has no friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessHe's a brilliant trainer but a very mentally unsteady folk. I wouldn't want him anywhere too close to me save perhaps for the pad sessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcallAtlas = DementiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
You nailed it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha'Teddy no Friends' fits so perfectly. You get the feeling he would always be trying to lecture you with some drawn out speal using a million metaphors filled with repetitiveness that would make your eyes glaze over.Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcallAll of his training gigs appear to end on a sour note. Other than Rauuuuuuuuuuuuuul, he has no friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessHe's a brilliant trainer but a very mentally unsteady folk. I wouldn't want him anywhere too close to me save perhaps for the pad sessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcallAtlas = DementiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Teddy is one of those guys who has some good points but his schtick is to be over the top. I hate it when analysts become over the top just to get ratings. I've heard many controversial but sound opinions from him. I've also heard absolutely crazy things come out of his mouth that I doubt he himself believes.