These guys are nutz. I hate to say but it is only a matter of time before we get it. I feel terrible for Europe. You guys did a lot for immigration to (help) people and it's like you are being punished.
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These guys are nutz. I hate to say but it is only a matter of time before we get it. I feel terrible for Europe. You guys did a lot for immigration to (help) people and it's like you are being punished.
Immigration is not causing terrorism many are homegrown. Try again.
I do not believe such loose and free immigration is helping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Now I'm most certainly NOT saying that freedom of movement should be impinged given that you have proper passports and everything. I'm not saying refugees shouldn't be helped. I'm saying that unvetted immigrants, un-assimilated groups of migrants and immigrants, are hindering things. Other Asian groups and European groups and African groups move into the West and they do alright in fact in America Asian immigrants make a shit ton of money, they average making more than your average white guy does. Where's the problem? What's the issue? Why the violence?
I'd say and this is only me here...I'd say the issues are 1. Education 2. Benefits 3. Work.
1. Education: We're (at least in America, i won't project onto England) not learning history, we're not learning sociology, we're learning OPPRESSION we're learning about POWER and we're learning about GUILT. You get hammered down every fucking day America is bad, America is evil, America is stolen land, America was built on slavery, White people are the Devil....that isn't even hyperbole for me to say anymore, children are being taught LITERALLY that! Well if you're from an immigrant family, you look back at where you came from, you feel this sickness about America, maybe you confide in a relative and they agree, they say "Yes, your teacher is right, but they are not telling you the full story" and down that rabbit hole you go and boom you've become radicalized.
2. Benefits: You know who deserves, welfare, food stamps, unemployment? TAX PAYERS, those who have paid into the system. You cannot as a nation operate under the idea that there will be a social safety net for the citizens of your nation and THEN welcome the world to your house....there's simply not enough money for that. Also why should some newb get benefits before a veteran gets theirs? FUCK THAT!
3. Work: Immigrants USED TO do the most shit jobs there were in order to make it in America only fair since pretty much every immigrant (and we're a nation of them) has been there and done that. Whites were slaves or the PC term "indentured servant" they were also refugees fleeing for religious freedom, Blacks were slaves, the Chinese were slaves, etc...everyone in this country has had to pull their weight, these new guys what weight are they pulling? Are they REALLY running away from war in Syria? Are they all Syrians? Look at the numbers, I don't think so, look at the boats of Africans coming across the Med....come on, let's not play dumb here.
I guess people will hate on me for mentioning those things but that is what makes sense to me, these are the problems we're facing.
Master, the people who you let in consume the radical idealogy. If they weren't in your country the message would fall on deaf ears. Ok say that ain't trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Oh there are plenty of SJWs more than willing to gobble that shit up......look at all the ginger jihadis it's all that SJW horsecrap!Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusMaster, the people who you let in consume the radical idealogy. If they weren't in your country the message would fall on deaf ears. Ok say that ain't trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
The whole "racism equals prejudice plus power" and "cultural appropriation" type shit....that is poisoning the well! It's dangerous and I hope to God there's a change in education before I sire children if not there's going to be quite a few parent teacher conferences that don't end in a happy fun time.
@El Kabong u are thinking of starting a family good for youQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOh there are plenty of SJWs more than willing to gobble that shit up......look at all the ginger jihadis it's all that SJW horsecrap!Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusMaster, the people who you let in consume the radical idealogy. If they weren't in your country the message would fall on deaf ears. Ok say that ain't trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
The whole "racism equals prejudice plus power" and "cultural appropriation" type shit....that is poisoning the well! It's dangerous and I hope to God there's a change in education before I sire children if not there's going to be quite a few parent teacher conferences that don't end in a happy fun time.
Of course why wouldn't I want to? Ever seen an old person with no relatives, no grandkids, no nothing left behind, they've had no impact on generations after them? It's very sad.
That is your perspective and I respect that but I did not experience education where the west/ whites are the devil. It was colonised and civilised the poor Black countries. Welfare should be for the most in need and vulnerable. The lowest paid jobs are still for the poor immigrants there are allowed to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI do not believe such loose and free immigration is helping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
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Now I'm most certainly NOT saying that freedom of movement should be impinged given that you have proper passports and everything. I'm not saying refugees shouldn't be helped. I'm saying that unvetted immigrants, un-assimilated groups of migrants and immigrants, are hindering things. Other Asian groups and European groups and African groups move into the West and they do alright in fact in America Asian immigrants make a shit ton of money, they average making more than your average white guy does. Where's the problem? What's the issue? Why the violence?
I'd say and this is only me here...I'd say the issues are 1. Education 2. Benefits 3. Work.
1. Education: We're (at least in America, i won't project onto England) not learning history, we're not learning sociology, we're learning OPPRESSION we're learning about POWER and we're learning about GUILT. You get hammered down every fucking day America is bad, America is evil, America is stolen land, America was built on slavery, White people are the Devil....that isn't even hyperbole for me to say anymore, children are being taught LITERALLY that! Well if you're from an immigrant family, you look back at where you came from, you feel this sickness about America, maybe you confide in a relative and they agree, they say "Yes, your teacher is right, but they are not telling you the full story" and down that rabbit hole you go and boom you've become radicalized.
2. Benefits: You know who deserves, welfare, food stamps, unemployment? TAX PAYERS, those who have paid into the system. You cannot as a nation operate under the idea that there will be a social safety net for the citizens of your nation and THEN welcome the world to your house....there's simply not enough money for that. Also why should some newb get benefits before a veteran gets theirs? FUCK THAT!
3. Work: Immigrants USED TO do the most shit jobs there were in order to make it in America only fair since pretty much every immigrant (and we're a nation of them) has been there and done that. Whites were slaves or the PC term "indentured servant" they were also refugees fleeing for religious freedom, Blacks were slaves, the Chinese were slaves, etc...everyone in this country has had to pull their weight, these new guys what weight are they pulling? Are they REALLY running away from war in Syria? Are they all Syrians? Look at the numbers, I don't think so, look at the boats of Africans coming across the Med....come on, let's not play dumb here.
I guess people will hate on me for mentioning those things but that is what makes sense to me, these are the problems we're facing.
I respect your perspective too @MasterQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
What year did you finish your schooling and what kind of school was it?
"Colonized" is a bad thing these days, "Civilized" likewise is a horrible awful no good thing these days. I'm NOT saying there weren't guys like Leopold II who was a horrible shitstain of a person, but there's no room for nuance in education these days, it's 100% to the left and it's either that or the teacher doesn't have a job or the students riot both things have happened in America very recently.....to the point where invited speakers have been sent away and schools have rioted in protest of their speaking. Free speech means something to me, it's the bedrock of our society and it's being taken away....that isn't good for anyone.
Welfare should be for the needy and vulnerable who have paid into the system, that is how a social (social, society...for those members of that society) safety net is supposed to work. What you have described is charity. I love charity, I work very closely with a charity. Of my own free will, I give time, money, effort to those in need what's stopping others from doing the same?
If these Immigrants want to work why then do they move to the countries with the highest benefit packages? Is it because they need that much help or is it because they are looking to take advantage? I hate to be cynical but I've seen little if any benefit from inviting over so many people.
Here's a tiny window into American education at the moment
George Ciccarello-Maher Professor Drexel University
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Now that's just 1 guy who is very vocal and outspoken via the internet and he teaches young students every single day. He's not the most crazy, he's not the most dangerous, he's not out of a job, he's slightly left of average.
That's the fucking problem I see today. It is a delayed overextending reaction to history regardless of why that history happened it's not intelligent, it's not cute, it's certainly not safe......and the best bit is he doesn't deal in fact, he deals in propaganda.
WowQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI respect your perspective too @MasterQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
What year did you finish your schooling and what kind of school was it?
"Colonized" is a bad thing these days, "Civilized" likewise is a horrible awful no good thing these days. I'm NOT saying there weren't guys like Leopold II who was a horrible shitstain of a person, but there's no room for nuance in education these days, it's 100% to the left and it's either that or the teacher doesn't have a job or the students riot both things have happened in America very recently.....to the point where invited speakers have been sent away and schools have rioted in protest of their speaking. Free speech means something to me, it's the bedrock of our society and it's being taken away....that isn't good for anyone.
Welfare should be for the needy and vulnerable who have paid into the system, that is how a social (social, society...for those members of that society) safety net is supposed to work. What you have described is charity. I love charity, I work very closely with a charity. Of my own free will, I give time, money, effort to those in need what's stopping others from doing the same?
If these Immigrants want to work why then do they move to the countries with the highest benefit packages? Is it because they need that much help or is it because they are looking to take advantage? I hate to be cynical but I've seen little if any benefit from inviting over so many people.
I call shenanigansQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
There is no way he is slightly left of average. You wish he was to confirm your own prejudices, but I highly doubt that your thoughts have much to do with reality anymore if you think that is true.
islam is the problem , it needs to be stopped. Its doesn't mix with the west.
I've been to many Islamic countries over my life and your opinion is irrelevant , that how it should be in the uk .
Wow
How about Brussels ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
islam doesn't mix with itself let alone the west.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzHow about Brussels ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Damn, what a bloody ramadan
I beg to differ but we are all alone when we die and makeQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
No impact what so ever unless someone in line commits a horrible crime.
our purpose is not of this worldQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusi beg to differ but we are all alone when we die and makeQuote:
Originally Posted by el kabong
no impact what so ever unless someone in line commits a horrible crime.
Dude that is so right but so hard to followQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustour purpose is not of this worldQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusi beg to differ but we are all alone when we die and makeQuote:
Originally Posted by el kabong
no impact what so ever unless someone in line commits a horrible crime.
I agree this guy is clearly out to sabotage positive multicultural work.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzI call shenanigansQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
There is no way he is slightly left of average. You wish he was to confirm your own prejudices, but I highly doubt that your thoughts have much to do with reality anymore if you think that is true.
My children are at school and they learn Black History month October which is a good thing to do but they learn more about royals and Christianity than anything else which I have no problem with either.
So true. We are beings of light.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusDude that is so right but so hard to followQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustour purpose is not of this worldQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusi beg to differ but we are all alone when we die and makeQuote:
Originally Posted by el kabong
no impact what so ever unless someone in line commits a horrible crime.
Oh really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Bill Ayers, is now retired from his professorial gig at University of Illinois at Chicago, but before then he was part of the Weather Underground which was a terrorist organization with lofty Communist ideals.
You can't sling a dead cat at a University in America without hitting a FAR leftist.....but I suppose you know better than me :rolleyes:
The "bike lock attacker" was Professor Eric Clanton...how far left is he? Far enough left to think it's ok to attempt to cave in some dude's head with a bike lock. PROFESSOR...but yeah, tell me I'm wrong because you know better.
Yvette Felarca School teacher (oh great she gets to indoctrinate even younger kids, HUZZAH!) leader of BAMN (By Any Means Necessary) an antifascist (read PROCommunist) group intent on stopping "fascists" (read Anyone who disagrees with them).
Dr. James McPherson, who applauded a woman that attempted to run over a Republican congressman for voting to repeal Obamacare. McPherson wrote on Twitter that it could be considered self-defense to run over the Congressman
Dr. Johnny Williams Professor of Sociology at Trinity College, after Congressman Steve Scalise was shot Dr. Williams said the first responders should have let the Congressman die for being white and that white people should fucking die and that white people are "inhuman assholes"
Dr. Robert Thurston was a Professor of History at Miami University and is a Josef Stalin defender.....fucking Stalin dude
Dr. Kelly Train is a sociology instructor at Ryerson University in Toronto. Train's essay instructions prohibited using government data, newspaper articles, or business sources (they are part of the patriarchy according to Train). Instead, "feminist sources" are to be utilized.
Dr. Danielle Allen is a Professor of Ethics at Harvard. She said that the rise of Donald Trump is just like the rise of Hitler.
Eric Canin, is an adjunct instructor of Anthropology at Cal-State Fullerton According to The Daily Titan, "“(Canin) came up, tried to grab (my) sign and pushed our way … Then he went after (Ingalls) and started swinging at him,"....he assaulted students because they dared oppose 'Students for Justice In Palestine' in a counter protest
Dr. Melissa Click formerly taught journalism and communications at Mizzou. She called for "muscle" to be used against a student journalist who was trying to film the protests on campus. She was fired, she's now a lecturer at Gonzaga because :dontknow:
Olga Perez Stable Cox is an instructor at Orange Coast College. She used class time to call the election of Donald Trump "an act of terrorism" and also called him a white supremacist
Dr. Arthur Butz is a tenured engineering professor at Northwestern University and a well-known Holocaust denier. He wrote a book called "The Hoax of the Twentieth Century" where he claims the Holocaust is a hoax. The book claims, "not only that they [the Jews] were not virtually wiped out, but what's more, that no evidence exists to date to confirm that there was ever any Hitler attempt to do so".
Dr. Charles Angeletti is a tenured professor at Metropolitan State University Denver and an admitted socialist. He required students to recite a pledge that describes a racist, sexist, homophobic America.
Dr. Julio Cesar Pino, an Associate Professor at Kent State University faced investigation by the FBI for connections to ISIS. He is strongly anti-Israel and calls Israel the “spiritual heir to Nazism”.
It's like finding needles in .....a stack full of needles Beanz.
Sure there are people who teach whom I disagree with an ddo not like: Cornel West, Noam Chomsky, etc....but there's quite a few that take their shit to the next level and beyond. A TENURED Professor who denies the Holocaust, holy fuck man.
You wouldn't expect violence to come from an ideology started by a 7th century illiterate merchant warlord who owned black slaves, cut off jew heads and had sex with children.
Then why defend it like you have so vociferously?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
WowQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzThen why defend it like you have so vociferously?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust