Floyd-McGregor: Winners and Losers
Winners:
Floyd - He's obviously going to win the fight, most likey by early KO unless he decides to stretch it out. But he's also a winner 'cause he's getting paid for an easy night's work. He also gets his 50th, although I still maintain it should have an asterisk attached to it.
McGregor - Strange saying this, but probably even McGregor knows deep inside he has no chance to win a boxing match against Floyd. Still, he's getting paid mega bucks and his fans will remain his fans, just 'cause he's a tough guy warrior and he had the guts to climb in the ring with Floyd. He goes back to MMA richer and more well known than before.
Losers:
Boxing - Not much, mind you. I'd probably put boxing in a "Neutral" or "No Change" column... but I just don't think boxing itself gains anything or any new fans from this circus-like charade. Like with a car crash, people will stop to ogle for awhile... then go back to business as usual. Boxing fans will remain boxing fans, and likewise with MMA fans. Boxing fans can claim some sort of hollow victory over MMA, but it won't matter much. Boxing will have to deal with the embarrassment of handing Floyd his 50th win, gained by beating a non-professional boxer.
DLH - This will probably push him into another cocaine-filled, fishnets-wearing binge. His BFIBH event is being undercut by Floyd, who he obviously hates.
Cotto - It's unfortunate. But what could be a pretty good fight will be totally ignored due to the circus in town on the very same day. And since everybody loves the circus, the crowd watching Cotto-Kamagei could be reduced to dozens.
Fans - Specifically the ones who will pay to watch Floyd-McGregor. But..... a fool and his money.....
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Floyd will be a loser in this because he has stacked his cards so much in his favour that he looks a complete and utter pussy. He is expected to win and the 50th victory will be as hollow as his head. Fans will remind him constantly of what he could have should have done for the rest of his life.
Floyd will never be loved, respected and honoured as much as he thinks they should.
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good job ;D
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I think Boxing stands to lose big... When one considers this Idiot set the fight the smallest challenge for the most amount of money trend in motion... and the you don't have to knock someone out or hurt them in order to "dominate" or "Perform" in the "Hurt Game".... and the "I'm risking my life... what's in it for me?" mentalities.
Who's going to be the next one to try this? pac? Wilder? How about more mixed cards where an MMA fighter brutally knocks someone out with a head kick (or worse a punch) and then the boxing match that follows, goes 12 rounds while you have someone pitty patting running around the perimeter? -- Now this could go the other way-- with a brutal boxing KO following 5 rounds of 2 BJJ fighters working out of the gaurd, but MMA doesnt stand to lose any fans to boxing as much as boxing stands to lose to mma. You can still see a boxing KO in an MMA fight. Boxing has been in a slow controlled bleed since its heyday.. Which is pretty good considering the juggernaut the MMA became fan base wise. Both have been able to do their own thing and keep their respective fans and followings and enjoy some bleed over maybe as long as they stayed in their lanes. The comparisons were limited. Bring them together.... and i think that could all go out the window.
Lets look at at the fallout from the likely scenario:
Floyd moves, slips punches, and puts a pasting on Connor. Connor landed some punches but didn't do a lot of damage, and gets serious outgamed without his legs (He uses side kicks like power jabs). Floyd Wins (by ko or decision) .. Yaye Floyd wins... then takes his money and f*cks back off into retirement again. He's not going to fight thurman, porter or any of the other guys climbing the mountain.) The boxing upside ends there. Connor loses and goes back to the UFC... with floyds endorsement (He's a helluva fighter... a helluva fighter;)) and lets say he goes back and beats a few more guys... Some boxing fans follow him.. Connor, White and the others in MMA ... "Yeah i coodent feel nawtin in dem 12 ounce Glooves... yadda yadda yadda" ... So c'mon over and see Connor fight in his natural habitat.. what you witnessed was not the real Connor. Not saying people will flock in droves over to the next mma ppv.. But considering that Boxing PPVs are suffering and Top rank is resorted to the TV deal with ESPN (ala PBC), for pacs match with horn/ terrence crawford and Loma too.. That's already a red flag and any converts from here out will hurt more.
(There is the scenarios that Connor gets a big fat check and says.. "well ive done it all, theres nawtin left to dooo." and retires too.. but I doubt White lets that happen)
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I can see your point about boxing losing big, especially if other wannabes want to follow suit. Hopefully if they do, they'll fall flat on their face. I'm hoping only a Floyd can pull this off, as outlandish, ridiculous, and nauseating it might be in the face of the sport of boxing. Wilder hasn't built the stock in boxing to even consider circus stunts like this.
Boxing survived Ali going against martial arts guys and wrestlers. I'm sure it'll survive chickenshit Floyd picking on an MMA guy to get his 50th-asterisk-win.
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Boxing will not loose.
No other boxer will follow suit.
You won't see Andre Ward calling out Jon Jones.
This is an event.
Why is everyone crying about it all the time..if you don't like it then don't watch it.(I guarantee that you will)
I can't stand cricket or horse racing so I don't watch it.
Why get 30-40 million fighting Thurman or Spence when you get over 100 million fighting McGregor.?!
Floyd has done enough in the sport of boxing and fought everyone you wanted him to fight..just accept it.
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Boxing will not loose.
No other boxer will follow suit.
You won't see Andre Ward calling out Jon Jones.
This is an event.
Why is everyone crying about it all the time..if you don't like it then don't watch it.(I guarantee that you will)
I can't stand cricket or horse racing so I don't watch it.
Why get 30-40 million fighting Thurman or Spence when you get over 100 million fighting McGregor.?!
Floyd has done enough in the sport of boxing and fought everyone you wanted him to fight..just accept it.
My problem has never been with Floyd. I don't blame MacGregor taking that sort of money either.
My problem is with the people who run the "SPORT" for allowing it. And let's not forget, it is supposed to be a sport, and in Sport, you look for as even a matchup as you can get.
My problem is also with the Public, who fuelled by the media have this crazed obsession with Floyd.
Most of the people are obsessed because they want to see him lose! It's fucking ridiculous.
And I won't be watching, I promise. I have no interest in it at all, and I don't know why anyone else is interested.
You can almost see it already, after the Fight, which will result in Floyd toying with MacGregor and outclassing him, I guarantee you will get some dumbasses who turn around and say:
1. It was boring, Floyd didn't want to attack.
2. Floyd ran
3. Floyd is a coward
Seriously, what the fuck are you expecting?
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To put it not so tender, I see this farce as whoring out the sport. It's a con job. It's just a meaningless distraction that unfortunately will over shadow boxing and it's dedicated professionals. If I was one of Mayweathers fighters carrying his water on the undercard I'd demand to fight with a paper bag on my head.
On a side note I'm sitting here watching Heather Hardy win her mma debut..only because no live boxing is on ;D. Betting she has taken adapting mma skills and intentions much more serious than Conner has his boxing.
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The fans/boxing are certainly not going to be losers, just look at the interest it's generated. All the people that are boycotting this rubbish can't stop talking about it. ;D
You hate it so much you can't stop promoting it. Exactly why the fight is happening.
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The fans/boxing are certainly not going to be losers, just look at the interest it's generated. All the people that are boycotting this rubbish can't stop talking about it. ;D
You hate it so much you can't stop promoting it. Exactly why the fight is happening.
Completely agree.
Let's imagine for some strange reason Canelo beats GGG..everyone will be screaming for Floyd to fight Canelo in another rematch. (154)
It will be the same result but a lot more money this time round...how will he refuse..it's raining money for these guys and Canelo doesn't really deserve it compared to other top tier fighters.
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Floyd will never fight at 160.
Your hate for him is overpowering.
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Floyd will never fight at 160.
Your hate for him is overpowering.
Yes that is the reason not the fact he would get destroyed.
Your love for Floyd is truly sickening.
Big Lol.
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Floyd hasn't fought any I wanted since Mosely and hasn't fought anyone I wanted at the time he should have fought them since the Castillo rematch. Even now, his record breaking match isn't even against an a opponent who's at a disadvantages. (An Mma fighter who cant use his full arsenal, with pillow gloves, in a ring hes not used to.. some event;D) Ali fought Inoki in Tokyo (Scripted then unscripted and booed anyway), Mercer wore Boxing shoes into the octagon. If you want to fight an mma fighter in an exhibition, fine compromise the rules t fit both fighters. If you want to break a boxing record and it has to be in a boxing ring with boxing rules, choose a boxer. With all the talk from floyd that he could come back at 40 and beat Thurman's @$$... Now would be the perfect time to prove it... but who cares what happens to boxing, Floyd wants to get paid, take no risk and continue his glory on a technicality.
I won't watch this circus, the same as I haven't watched the berto fight... My time and money is reserved for actual fighters that have a warriors spirit, show heart, and chase greatness. And if you think that description fits Floyd.. to put things in perspective ... Consider that if Chavez Jr. had been able to finish off Martinez, he would have would have been 1 draw and 1 nc away from tying Marciano record by beating brian Vera almost 1.5 years before floyd... and been just as proud. ;)
I'm not saying that floyd hasn't accomplished anything in the ring... I'm just saying that him accomplishing something unequivocal maybe put his name in the record books, but it doesn't erase from peoples minds how he did it. If you want to be truly great, take no shorts. If money and technicalities are enough for you, then so be it but don't use boxing as a stage for your circus... as Spicoli said, Its a slap in the face to everyone whos doing this the right way. For every Kovalev willing to take no guaranteed money to regain former glory and avenge a rip off loss.. There's a group of money grubbing primadonnas who want to get paid to win and paid more to lose.. and people wonder why boxing isn't what it used to be.
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People talk about the fight in here to make fun of it. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
The U.S. elections generated a LOT of interest, and people can't stop talking about it either.
Does this translate into a big win for U.S. politics?
It's the Car Crash Syndrome. People will gather to ogle at anything and then move on. It's the sick aspect in many.
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The fans/boxing are certainly not going to be losers, just look at the interest it's generated. All the people that are boycotting this rubbish can't stop talking about it. ;D
You hate it so much you can't stop promoting it. Exactly why the fight is happening.
Completely agree.
Let's imagine for some strange reason Canelo beats GGG..everyone will be screaming for Floyd to fight Canelo in another rematch. (154)
It will be the same result but a lot more money this time round...how will he refuse..it's raining money for these guys and Canelo doesn't really deserve it compared to other top tier fighters.
When GGG rips Canelo apart watch the stuttering dumb ass Floyd say he will not fight him because there is no demand for the fight. Floyd is an utter cunt and just because I watch will not mean I support this event.
"just because I watch will not mean I support this event. "
Priceless!!!
He will be watching on the wireless, so not financially contributing to it ;D
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Boxing will not loose.No other boxer will follow suit.You won't see Andre Ward calling out Jon Jones.This is an event.Why is everyone crying about it all the time..if you don't like it then don't watch it.(I guarantee that you will)I can't stand cricket or horse racing so I don't watch it.Why get 30-40 million fighting Thurman or Spence when you get over 100 million fighting McGregor.?!Floyd has done enough in the sport of boxing and fought everyone you wanted him to fight..just accept it.
My problem has never been with Floyd. I don't blame MacGregor taking that sort of money either.My problem is with the people who run the "SPORT" for allowing it. And let's not forget, it is supposed to be a sport, and in Sport, you look for as even a matchup as you can get. My problem is also with the Public, who fuelled by the media have this crazed obsession with Floyd.Most of the people are obsessed because they want to see him lose! It's fucking ridiculous. And I won't be watching, I promise. I have no interest in it at all, and I don't know why anyone else is interested.You can almost see it already, after the Fight, which will result in Floyd toying with MacGregor and outclassing him, I guarantee you will get some dumbasses who turn around and say:1. It was boring, Floyd didn't want to attack.2. Floyd ran3. Floyd is a cowardSeriously, what the fuck are you expecting?
Boxing is not just a sport. It has no unified body running it. The idea of an even match up is hopeful at best, and not what happens consistently at any level from amateur kids to international professional adults. Promoters and managers put on what will sell or further their prospect and despite this boxing survives and continues to produce enthralling contests as well as average and poor ones. Without this panoply of pugilism the art would be poorer and less meaningful. It is the maverick in a predictable overly health and safety obsessed society in which codified bodies have reduced many other martial arts to point scoring exercises. Boxing runs the gamut and fights like this one are vital so that we cherish real classics when they happen and appreciate small Hall cogs that drive the bigger machine.
This is a good description of what normally describes the lopsidedness of match making, the fact that mismatches are heavy for favored fighters coming up or necessity and value of journeymen fighters. This however is simply a spectacle payout for two already established faces of their franchises that has no intention of leading anywhere. Show me any tilted scale of a bout where a boxer is brought in to lose and you will find in majority of cases at least 1,2 or a few times that b boxer side has pulled off the upset. Boxing has 1001 problems and is very much the black sheep of sports but this gimmick is essentially entering a supped up clown car in a car show. What will sell and promote this is not a few hardened overly cynical die hard fans calling crap crap but a mass media targeting casuals or status clingers who have no intention of watching the next boxing show on basic cable. I'm not a purist and do not begrudge a guy or gal making a buck but at the risk of sounding like a self righteous arse :-X, it's our house..our 3 legged adopted mutt of a sport and shouldn't just stand in line throwing our hands up waiting to eat at the trough of slop they shovel in for mass consumption.
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The fans/boxing are certainly not going to be losers, just look at the interest it's generated. All the people that are boycotting this rubbish can't stop talking about it. ;D
You hate it so much you can't stop promoting it. Exactly why the fight is happening.
Actually, I don't comment on the fight any longer and have no interest in the fight itself. It will likely be on TV free here. I won't watch it. I will likely stream the Cotto fight that won't be on TV instead. I'm not even joking. It's just a pointless fight. Only mugs will watch it.
