Will be more competitive than Floyd v Mcgregor
I whatsapped the link to about thirty friends this morning who all replied similar - crazy, wtf, etc.etc....but all said they'd definitely watch ! So why not
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40434050
Printable View
Will be more competitive than Floyd v Mcgregor
I whatsapped the link to about thirty friends this morning who all replied similar - crazy, wtf, etc.etc....but all said they'd definitely watch ! So why not
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40434050
Crazy old bastards. Will Roy Jones get the winner?
I think it is rather cute. Could be fun, neither man should have the speed or output to finish the other.
Steve Collins "don't kid yourself, I'm as fit as I've ever been, I ride horses!!!" 😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Camping it up, listen to the little mincer go! ;D
Connor has apparently begged his old man not to do it and has refused to be in his corner...that is something that will go in Nigel's favour anyway
Absolutely crazy and stupid fight between 2 men who were past it when they fought one another so now this is just a vanity contest where they get to knock each others head off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
I bet Eubank Senior will be interested in the winner.
Geriatric whirlwind of a trilogy. Question is, how does one actually keep a mouthpiece in with no dentures in???
British boxing chiefs will not sanction a third fight between Nigel Benn and Steve Collins, says BBC Radio 5 live pundit Steve Bunce.
Benn, 53, and Collins, 52, have told BBC Sport they have agreed to meet again, 21 years after their last fight.
"If it was a charity match, the British Boxing Board of Control might turn a blind eye," said Bunce. "But neither would make enough money."
Benn told 5 live there were "other avenues" for getting a licence.
British fighters David Haye and Dereck Chisora obtained clearance from Luxembourg's boxing federation prior to their fight at Upton Park in July 2012.
"They will not fight in this country under BBBofC rules," said Bunce. "You can forget that.
"That means it will take place under a Maltese licence or some other foreign body."
Londoner Benn feels he could convince the BBBofC that he is fit enough to compete.
But Dublin-born Collins, who beat Benn twice in 1996, and leading promoter Eddie Hearn do not think the organisation will sanction the fight.
BBBofC general secretary Robert Smith said on Thursday that neither Benn nor Collins had applied for a licence to fight again.
He said the only age limit imposed on those applying is they must be over 18, but added: "The older you get, the more unlikely it is."
Smith said he would be "surprised" if anyone wanted to promote the fight.
Benn, nicknamed 'The Dark Destroyer', held the WBO middleweight title and the WBC super-middleweight belt before retiring as a fighter following his second defeat by Collins at the Manchester Arena in November 1996.
First fight - 6 July 1996, Manchester
Collins ended Chris Eubank's unbeaten record to win the WBO super-middleweight title in 1995, and successfully defended the title seven times, include twice against Benn.
Benn came into the first fight in July 1996 having lost his WBC World super middleweight title to Thulani Malinga.
Collins stopped his opponent in the fourth round, with Benn suffering an ankle injury, but the pair then had a rematch just four months later.
Second fight - 9 November 1996, Manchester
Benn went into the rematch seeking revenge, but Collins was relentless in his attacking strategy.
The Englishman battled through to the end of round six before retiring in his corner. Collins had two more fights, retaining his WBO title, retiring in July 1997.
How did we get here?
Benn, whose son Conor made his professional debut in April 2016, has talked up the possibility of a return to the ring before.
An attempt to organise a rematch with old rival Eubank came to nothing, but both Benn and Collins have indicated that they are ready to fight each other again.
If the British Boxing Board of Control refuses to sanction the bout, both fighters have said they would seek a boxing licence from abroad.
"It's about the final chapter," Benn said. "It's about closure.
"I was going backwards and forwards with Chris and I thought: 'I wouldn't have a problem with Steve.' So I asked him if he wants to fight. He said yes. No mucking about."
Collins has not fought in almost 20 years, with an attempt to come out of retirement in 1999 halted when he collapsed during a sparring session.
The Irishman has also talked of fighting again in recent years, saying in a 2013 interview that he wanted to take on Roy Jones Jr.
Collins, whose son Steve Jr has been a professional boxer since 2013, said his motivations for taking on the fight with Benn were financial.
"It's just about money, a payday which will allow me to buy some more land," he said.
"I have no problem with Nigel. I have a lot of respect. I like him."
Since his retirement, Benn has helped train young boxers, and has also made a career as a DJ - while in 2002, he appeared as a contestant in the first series of ITV's I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here.
He said that he feels in the best shape of his life, comparing himself to Benjamin Button, the F Scott Fitzgerald character who becomes younger in appearance as he gets older.
Benn added that he felt fitter now than he did at his professional peak, a time during which he said he was smoking cannabis and struggling with troubles in his personal life.
"I'm not angry any more and I can have everything I ever want," he said. "I am Nigel 'Benjamin Button' Benn. I feel like I am in my thirties."
Collins, nicknamed 'The Celtic Warrior', has worked as an actor since his last professional fight, appearing in the 1998 film Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.
He is confident that he will be cleared medically to fight Benn, despite the collapse that prevented his comeback in the late 1990s.
"I am not fighting a 20-year-old-guy," he said. "I'm fighting someone the same age as me. There's no disadvantage to anybody.
"I get medicals every year and the most impressive part is my MRI. 'Excellent' was how the neurosurgeon described it. I'm very healthy and very fit."
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps...29228_benn.jpg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40434050
PAC and Floyd should take notes, this is how you let a fight marinate
If things keep getting like this me and miles fight might get a ppv
Freak show, but wtf, if Mayweather can run a sting, why not?
That's exactly what I saidQuote:
Originally Posted by holmcall
if mayweather can do it then why cant these two @Mark TKO?
Exactly. That's what I'm saying
At least Collins is honest enough to say it is about the money to buy some land.
The fucker Floyd is making it out that it is the fans demanding the McGregor fight when he has been generating it with the media throughout his retirement. Cunt.
Bit annoying what Collins is saying really.
It's like we've pissed our money up the wall and I want to buy some more land - will you mugs please fund it. Thanks
It reminds me of the old "hard nut" in the pub that gets bladdered then starts threatening young blokes with right handers. Just sit down you soppy old git.
How do I add a poll to this - to see who'd actually pay to watch it
I get many forms of outrage over the fight. But acting like "Money" Mayweather has been dishonest about wanting money is about as disengenuous as is possible. Is it sarcasm? If so well playedQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
You think this will be ppv?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
You Know @Master Ron? In his World, Floyd should not only fight for free, but he should fight somebody 3 weights bigger just so the fans can see him get beat up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonI get many forms of outrage over the fight. But acting like "Money" Mayweather has been dishonest about wanting money is about as disengenuous as is possible. Is it sarcasm? If so well playedQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Also , he wants every fighter to earn major money as long as there's no ppv.
So who should pay the fighters all this money if there's no ppv?
The promoters of course! How dare they make a penny out of their investment!
Oh yes, @Master's World #utopia
I don't really mind it even if they are obviously in a side category and well weeeelllllll beyond relevance. It's not nearly as farcical, to me, as the giant infomercial Mayweather and Dana Whites poster boy are staging. They have history, are actually trained professional prize fighters-boxers and know the base and intended audience. It's a joke that doesn't take itself too seriously and not shoved down the throats of world wide fans.
Fans pay subscription to the channels for boxing and increasingly they have to pay more for ppv fights which is an outrage. There is enough money if the promoters were not there for the fighters. You want to see more Bellew v Cleverly ppv then be my guest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYou Know @Master Ron? In his World, Floyd should not only fight for free, but he should fight somebody 3 weights bigger just so the fans can see him get beat up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonI get many forms of outrage over the fight. But acting like "Money" Mayweather has been dishonest about wanting money is about as disengenuous as is possible. Is it sarcasm? If so well playedQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Also , he wants every fighter to earn major money as long as there's no ppv.
So who should pay the fighters all this money if there's no ppv?
The promoters of course! How dare they make a penny out of their investment!
Oh yes, @Master's World #utopia
Not my point mate. My point is that when I moan that some earn too much, you say "it's a short career, it's a dangerous game , they deserve what they get."Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFans pay subscription to the channels for boxing and increasingly they have to pay more for ppv fights which is an outrage. There is enough money if the promoters were not there for the fighters. You want to see more Bellew v Cleverly ppv then be my guest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYou Know @Master Ron? In his World, Floyd should not only fight for free, but he should fight somebody 3 weights bigger just so the fans can see him get beat up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonI get many forms of outrage over the fight. But acting like "Money" Mayweather has been dishonest about wanting money is about as disengenuous as is possible. Is it sarcasm? If so well playedQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Also , he wants every fighter to earn major money as long as there's no ppv.
So who should pay the fighters all this money if there's no ppv?
The promoters of course! How dare they make a penny out of their investment!
Oh yes, @Master's World #utopia
Well where do you think they get that from?
It's a supply and demand World. If people want to be continually mugged off , so be it.
ITV PPV, Box Nation PPV... when does it end?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNot my point mate. My point is that when I moan that some earn too much, you say "it's a short career, it's a dangerous game , they deserve what they get."Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFans pay subscription to the channels for boxing and increasingly they have to pay more for ppv fights which is an outrage. There is enough money if the promoters were not there for the fighters. You want to see more Bellew v Cleverly ppv then be my guest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYou Know @Master Ron? In his World, Floyd should not only fight for free, but he should fight somebody 3 weights bigger just so the fans can see him get beat up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonI get many forms of outrage over the fight. But acting like "Money" Mayweather has been dishonest about wanting money is about as disengenuous as is possible. Is it sarcasm? If so well playedQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Also , he wants every fighter to earn major money as long as there's no ppv.
So who should pay the fighters all this money if there's no ppv?
The promoters of course! How dare they make a penny out of their investment!
Oh yes, @Master's World #utopia
Well where do you think they get that from?
It's a supply and demand World. If people want to be continually mugged off , so be it.
this hadn't crossed my mind. I was all for the fight but thought of paying Ppv is abit offputting. If it was sold as a charity match free to air it would get significantly more support but Ppv is a clear money grab and exploitation.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou think this will be ppv?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
i remember watching the 1st two fights and they left a sour taste. Never dreamt we'd get a 3rd fight over two decades later. 1st one Benn quit afew seconds after an ankle injury which looks worse since Haye continued fighting with a similar problem. Second time he just outright quit on his stool which wasn't consistent with his warrior mentality. The fire had gone and he's now saying it took 20 years to get it burning again
collins reason is as honest as it can get but he did give up his belt because he was scared to fight Calzaghe and I remember that he attempted a comeback some years later but fainted in training and couldn't get licensed. At 52 I'm confused how his health would've improved. I think he got eubank and Benn at the right time but at 4-0 in those fights he deserves credit.
the fight itself won't be much fun to watch. I rewatched the 1st two since this 3rd was announced and was reminded how sloppy those fights were. Styles didn't mesh and both guys missed a lot. So a 3rd fight can only be uglier. Let's see how it takes shape in the coming weeks but I have a feeling eubank jnr will have an itv Ppv rival
It doesn't mate. Look at football. Ordinary players earning over £100k that can only kick a ball with one foot!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterITV PPV, Box Nation PPV... when does it end?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNot my point mate. My point is that when I moan that some earn too much, you say "it's a short career, it's a dangerous game , they deserve what they get."Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFans pay subscription to the channels for boxing and increasingly they have to pay more for ppv fights which is an outrage. There is enough money if the promoters were not there for the fighters. You want to see more Bellew v Cleverly ppv then be my guest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYou Know @Master Ron? In his World, Floyd should not only fight for free, but he should fight somebody 3 weights bigger just so the fans can see him get beat up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonI get many forms of outrage over the fight. But acting like "Money" Mayweather has been dishonest about wanting money is about as disengenuous as is possible. Is it sarcasm? If so well playedQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Also , he wants every fighter to earn major money as long as there's no ppv.
So who should pay the fighters all this money if there's no ppv?
The promoters of course! How dare they make a penny out of their investment!
Oh yes, @Master's World #utopia
Well where do you think they get that from?
It's a supply and demand World. If people want to be continually mugged off , so be it.
The only way it will stop is if Joe Public grows a brain, and that's highly unlikely.
watching videos of benn he still looks pretty handy
id be surprised if Collins wins this one
I would hope and agree with that. the only thing I worry about is that you can look great in the gym or on a video clip and then you get in the ring and feel you have to pace yourself especially at their age . then you tighten up and start to look a bit like a donkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Look at Eubank Jr. for example. in his video clips , he looks like the kid off the Incredibles and his dopey old man says he throws "60 and 70 punch combinations".
then he gets in the ring and swings like a rusty gate, and I ain't never seen any fucker throw 60 and 70 punch combinations!!!
even when his wise old man in his corner says to him "why don't you throw a 60, just for the funk of it?" Priceless! ;D;D;D;D;D
lb4lb who do you thinks the better boxer nigel benn or connor McGregor?
Benn as Connor is not a good boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Are you serious??
I am afraid he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by XQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Are you serious??