Conor McGregor toys with Paulie Malinaggi in sparring?

http://www.msn.com/en-ie/sport/news/...wNY?li=BBr5KbJ

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This picture of their sparring match has gone viral. It does not make Paulie, nor boxing look very good.

I say this picture doesn't tell the full story, but it is possible I suppose that a peaking, in shape, younger fighter like Conor could possibly be getting the better of an aging, out of shape, retired Paulie.

Still, I think Paulie likely outboxed him in sparring, even now.

What say you guys? Did Paulie school Conor or get schooled?

Its impossible to say from one single picture, but schooling Paulie (would be true) and making it a proof that he has a solid chance against Mayweather is all another thing.

I think if he schooled Paulie he would released the video not a picture.

If we look back Conor released video of him getting the better of Van Heerden so he responded with expanded video that showed Conor getting worked.

So before Paulie went there I was of the opinion they would make Paulie sign confidentiality and Conor would be the only person to record. If Conor won we would hear about it both through video and Paulie(because Paulie wants to sell the fight too with his television affiliations). Paulie said it was a few good rounds and he won't speak about details. So we got Paulie not selling and Conor not releasing video. If you put 2+2 together....

Maybe they release video later, who knows. What we do know is a picture says nothing. I can find pictures of Walsh landing solid on Gervonta Davis or Pedraza, but he kicked their arses.

Be better clowning if he was actually landing clean and putting him down. Looks like bit of a staged dope there in a still shot in this age of video. One of these guys could actually box with top tier guys, one needs photo ops.

How could you take anything from that? If Paulie had any pride invested in this he probably wouldn't have taken the job, he was as vocal as anyone that this fight was a joke from the get go. Considering he's now retired, not a world class fighter, and probably being paid well for this gig, he'd be more than willing to leak some stupid staged photo. Say even it isn't and Connor did well, Paulie got knocked out by the guy who plays the banjo in Deliverance last time he fought, it's not a measuring stick for anything.

It looks like Conor isn't sure where his hands are supposed to be and Paulie is trying to show him.

Fake news

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

It looks like Conor isn't sure where his hands are supposed to be and Paulie is trying to show him.

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You may be on to something.

If that is the best they can show of Colin, a picture not a video, then he is duly fecked even by a powder puff Floyd. This events gets even more embarrassing.

It's Paulie. Maybe he is asking him to hit him with his best shots. It's not Lemieux or Joshua, it's Paulie. You would presume that although Paulie may keep himself fit he is not going to be anywhere near the level of an active fighter in any discipline, and if that is at the end of a long spar then it is quite realistic. There is not really any boxer out there that is going to prepare you for Floyd even if you are a seasoned boxer yourself so it is academic anyway. Maidana is the blueprint and that is the only sensible way for McCregor to approach this. Make it messy and unpredictable, forget about clean shots and trying to box, balance on that edge and don't get yourself DQd but lean on him, hug him, spin him, give him a bit of his own elbow medicine, but thrown properly and put the fear of the rabid madmen into his head.

It will be over quick one way or the other and could be a lot of fun.


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Well, if Conor simply beat Paulie up he has no clue how to run a championship camp. Because after the session he invited Paulie to stay through the entire camp. That isn't what you do if you just easily beat a guy up. You keep a guy through an entire camp if you get good work as Paulie said.

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@PaulMalignaggi is this you? What is your assessment of @TheNotoriousMMA now? He looks like he handled you no problem #Eire #49-1 🍀🍀🍀🍀

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Was good work, if u can make out what kind of session we had based on a picture u must really have some telepathic powers u utter mong lol

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From Paulies Twatter

Wellll... that does it then. I guess I'm gonna have to bet a million dollars on Conor now.

According to Paulie, there's a method to Connor's madness: https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/7/2...conors-madness

In the article, Pailie seems to say that McGregor has an interesting plan, something that, apparently, will detonate from what we normally see (bringing with him some elements from his MMA background and stuff). I think that it makes sense that they'll try something totally unorthodox to fight Floyd as there is not a single chance in hell that using the conventional boxing, he could do anything meaningful in the King's court on his very own set of rules.
It's a good idea to try something totally "mad" that could perhaps surprise Floyd. That's their best chance, if that's true that they try something totally new, I top them my hat for trying it but I still believe it will be too little to win a fight against a Floyd that will just do as usual; take no chances at all.

I agree with what has been said before, if mcgreggor had got the better of Pauli we'd have stories and probably a video

Instead all we're hearing is that it's staying private

Somebody said it in another thread but it's worth mentioning again. There are boxers who have had a ton of amateur success and have been boxing for years before turning pro. Even they still start off with fighting lesser opposition at the beginning of their careers. There are very few fighters who can make the jump from amateur to professional and become a top guy within 10 fights. And not one of them fights a top guy their first fight.

So does anybody actually think Conor has any sort of chance whatsoever? Sure, he has sparred to train for MMA so he isn't completely incompetent, but he is nowhere near the boxer as an Olympian. And even many of these olympians end up totally failing during their careers.

Even if Conor is super talented at boxing and is a natural, he would still have to at least have a few fights under his belt to get used to the fight game and all of its intricacies. I don't care how naturally talented you are, you aren't beating Floyd in your first professional fight.

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

Somebody said it in another thread but it's worth mentioning again. There are boxers who have had a ton of amateur success and have been boxing for years before turning pro. Even they still start off with fighting lesser opposition at the beginning of their careers. There are very few fighters who can make the jump from amateur to professional and become a top guy within 10 fights. And not one of them fights a top guy their first fight.

So does anybody actually think Conor has any sort of chance whatsoever? Sure, he has sparred to train for MMA so he isn't completely incompetent, but he is nowhere near the boxer as an Olympian. And even many of these olympians end up totally failing during their careers.

Even if Conor is super talented at boxing and is a natural, he would still have to at least have a few fights under his belt to get used to the fight game and all of its intricacies. I don't care how naturally talented you are, you aren't beating Floyd in your first professional fight.

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I think its interesting that people think Conor is going to have success with something completely unorthodox that will shock Floyd, I am sure that all successful styles, methods and tactics would have been tried and tested in the few years that boxing has existed, the reason that the 'orthodox' styles, methods and tactics are used is because they work, the unorthodox...I'm guessing not so much.

The more I think about it the more I feel the possibility of Conor getting himself DQ'ed becomes more real.

Think about it. It's a way out. It's not a humiliating KO loss... and I don't think Conor is going to have the boxing discipline to put up with getting peppered for 12 rounds. He tries to discombobulate Floyd with whatever cockamamie scheme he's got up his sleeve, and..... when that doesn't work... either out of sheer frustration or a calculated move, he'll begin doing things that are ok by MMA standards, but not boxing. He puts up the good fight... gets himself DQ'ed... each claims a victory of sorts... the public gets fleeced... and life goes on.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

The more I think about it the more I feel the possibility of Conor getting himself DQ'ed becomes more real.Think about it. It's a way out. It's not a humiliating KO loss... and I don't think Conor is going to have the boxing discipline to put up with getting peppered for 12 rounds. He tries to discombobulate Floyd with whatever cockamamie scheme he's got up his sleeve, and..... when that doesn't work... either out of sheer frustration or a calculated move, he'll begin doing things that are ok by MMA standards, but not boxing. He puts up the good fight... gets himself DQ'ed... each claims a victory of sorts... the public gets fleeced... and life goes on.

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Many have suggested this, but evidently it's in the contract that he cannot do anything to get himself DQd or Mayweather will sue the pants off him and take damn near all of his money. As it is, I've read that the UFC will be taking 40% of Conor's proposed $100 million.

Smartest thing Floyd could've insisted on, obviously. But you gotta wonder how Conor will respond in the heat of the battle, especially if he's getting jabbed and boxed mercilessly, and he can't touch Floyd. Another thing is whether Conor will try shady tactics like faking a kick to get a rise out of Floyd in an attempt to throw him off. There's sure to be a lot of roughhousing, where Conor is sure to try and press his advantage, maybe even making it into a dirty fight. Think Shawn Porter on steroids, minus the boxing skills.

How's Mac's chin? Can he take clean shots from Floyd? If so he should just swing for the fences from the get go. Like Tito said make it ugly like Porter does but to the extreme. Is the ref going to DQ a guy when folks have paid through the teeth to watch this? I think McGregor will be given a lot of wiggle room here.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

How's Mac's chin? Can he take clean shots from Floyd? If so he should just swing for the fences from the get go. Like Tito said make it ugly like Porter does but to the extreme. Is the ref going to DQ a guy when folks have paid through the teeth to watch this? I think McGregor will be given a lot of wiggle room here.

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They are really going in with a loaded deck, has there ever been a guy given the mega start stage minus an ounce of boxing legitimacy? Need a no nonsense ref and not some Mercante Jr or Reiss type just looking for the cameras. I talked to a big mma fan who argued..per norm..that Mayweather "cannot hurt people" and Conner would not be stopped but maybe lose over 12 rounds ;D. Guys don't have to be flat on the back to be ktfo. They can just get tired of being spun in circles and punched cleanly repeatedly. Do think Mayweather was off comparing Conner to a Maidana. Chino was improved and knew about proper cut off and delivery.

Although Floyd is not a big puncher I could see him catching a frustrated McGregor rushing in with hands down and chin up. I wouldn't be surprised with a body shot no for Floyd either.

Floyd has only been wobbled a handful of times in his career and I just can't see McGregor with a limited technique landing a shot to end it.

People keep assuming Mc is gonna be a face first pressure fighter, but that's not his game. Why would a super highly skilled MMA fighter turn into a thick brawler knowing that's exactly what Floyd wants? The boooos are gonna be deafening.

And Floyd is probably the "dirtiest" fighter Mc will have faced - elbow, forearm, holding, low blows, feigning injury. From the little MMA i've seen those bods are far more disciplined than boxers (generally) when it comes to breaking rules.

The amount of fantasy narrative a stupid picture has generated it would've been better had Paulie been lying on the floor pretending to be sparked out. All the boxing wallies would have been making up excuses - he's old, out of shape, it was a lucky punch, Ali was knocked out sparrring, blah, blah, blah.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

People keep assuming Mc is gonna be a face first pressure fighter, but that's not his game. Why would a super highly skilled MMA fighter turn into a thick brawler knowing that's exactly what Floyd wants? The boooos are gonna be deafening.

And Floyd is probably the "dirtiest" fighter Mc will have faced - elbow, forearm, holding, low blows, feigning injury. From the little MMA i've seen those bods are far more disciplined than boxers (generally) when it comes to breaking rules.

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What other chance does he have? He won't out box Floyd or get him coming forward. Floyd is going to fight his fight. Mac is going to get frustrated sooner or later at swinging and missing, then getting countered. What would you advise him to do that 49 other boxers haven't already tried? Physical pressure fights like Castillo and Maidana are the closest I've seen to Floyd losing. DLH had success with the jab but I doubt Mac can emulate that and Judah boxed we'll from the southpaw stance early but is way more skilled than McGregor could ever hope to be. A pressure, grinding approach using his size and power has to be the logical game plan doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by Fenster

The amount of fantasy narrative a stupid picture has generated it would've been better had Paulie been lying on the floor pretending to be sparked out. All the boxing wallies would have been making up excuses - he's old, out of shape, it was a lucky punch, Ali was knocked out sparrring, blah, blah, blah.

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;D It was all kind of satire going in to be fair. I'm just glad Paulie took it easy on him so he can boast during the Showtime build up ;D

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Originally Posted by Alpha

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People keep assuming Mc is gonna be a face first pressure fighter, but that's not his game. Why would a super highly skilled MMA fighter turn into a thick brawler knowing that's exactly what Floyd wants? The boooos are gonna be deafening.

And Floyd is probably the "dirtiest" fighter Mc will have faced - elbow, forearm, holding, low blows, feigning injury. From the little MMA i've seen those bods are far more disciplined than boxers (generally) when it comes to breaking rules.

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What other chance does he have? He won't out box Floyd or get him coming forward. Floyd is going to fight his fight. Mac is going to get frustrated sooner or later at swinging and missing, then getting countered. What would you advise him to do that 49 other boxers haven't already tried? Physical pressure fights like Castillo and Maidana are the closest I've seen to Floyd losing. DLH had success with the jab but I doubt Mac can emulate that and Judah boxed we'll from the southpaw stance early but is way more skilled than McGregor could ever hope to be. A pressure, grinding approach using his size and power has to be the logical game plan doesn't it?

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Logical game plan? Yeah. But it would be totally alien to the way he fights, so no different than asking Floyd to force the fight if nothing is happening.

Mc wins a moral victory if he goes the distance. The "best boxer in the world" - TBE - can't stop a UFC champion having his boxing debut, yet EVERYONE on earth knows Floyd wouldn't last three minutes in Mc's world.

He'll probably get frustrated and do what you say but I'd expect a few rounds of posing before anything happens.

Boxing is foreign to the way McGregor fights so anything he does in that ring is going to be alien I guess.

Who has Floyd legitimately knocked out the size of McGregor? Back in '05 and 140 pounds was the last time Floyd was stopping people.

Unless McGregor is exhausted late in the fight (a very real possibility) I see it going the distance. Floyd has fought safety first since moving to welter and I don't see that changing now.

Exactly, Floyd doesn't give two shits about how boring the fight is, he'll just do what he always does. You won't be surprised by Floyd boxing a 12 round shutout but there's loads and loads of "experts" expecting a massacre let alone the general boxing fan.

Mc can't lose unless he's flattened.

All the boxing fans will say "typical boring Floyd fight," the MMA fans will say "boring runner was terrified to trade with Mc" and the general sports fans will say "that was a boring waste of money, they should have let the Irish dude kick and stuff"

You think they would have learnt after Floyd/ Pac.

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People keep assuming Mc is gonna be a face first pressure fighter, but that's not his game. Why would a super highly skilled MMA fighter turn into a thick brawler knowing that's exactly what Floyd wants? The boooos are gonna be deafening.

And Floyd is probably the "dirtiest" fighter Mc will have faced - elbow, forearm, holding, low blows, feigning injury. From the little MMA i've seen those bods are far more disciplined than boxers (generally) when it comes to breaking rules.

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What other chance does he have? He won't out box Floyd or get him coming forward. Floyd is going to fight his fight. Mac is going to get frustrated sooner or later at swinging and missing, then getting countered. What would you advise him to do that 49 other boxers haven't already tried? Physical pressure fights like Castillo and Maidana are the closest I've seen to Floyd losing. DLH had success with the jab but I doubt Mac can emulate that and Judah boxed we'll from the southpaw stance early but is way more skilled than McGregor could ever hope to be. A pressure, grinding approach using his size and power has to be the logical game plan doesn't it?

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Logical game plan? Yeah. But it would be totally alien to the way he fights, so no different than asking Floyd to force the fight if nothing is happening.

Mc wins a moral victory if he goes the distance. The "best boxer in the world" - TBE - can't stop a UFC champion having his boxing debut, yet EVERYONE on earth knows Floyd wouldn't last three minutes in Mc's world.

He'll probably get frustrated and do what you say but I'd expect a few rounds of posing before anything happens.

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I would give Floyd a way better chance to beat Conor in MMA than I would give Conor to beat Floyd in a boxing matchup. You can say what you want about floyds punching power but his punches obviously have sting on them. That's why his opponents quit throwing punches after a round or two. Because his counter punches are hurting.

Floyd will definitely KO Conor if he wants to (which I'm assuming he will). MMA fighters don't get nearly the leverage on punches that boxers do. Floyd won't have to worry about getting hit by a big shot for two reasons. One, Conor will not be able to land. Floyd is such a good defensive fighter and has avoided his opponents shots well. No way Conor can box his first fight and actually land anything of significance. Second, even if he does land, Conor in no way hits harder than anybody Floyd has ever fought at welter. His punch won't be that hard comparatively. Conor will easily be worse than a normal sparring partner.

I'm shocked that anybody who watches boxing would think that Conor has any chance whatsoever. I mean even if Floyd couldn't hurt Conor for whatever reason, he will be so tired by the late rounds that his power will be about gone and Floyd can easily land tons of punches at will and Conor would at least fall from exhaustion.

What weight is McGregor then, is it going to be a huge difference?

Has anyone actually gone and watched a number of his mma matches and stand up? When you realize Conner has roughly less than 60 minutes of in ring/cage over entire career the thought of pacing and lasting full 12 rounds strikes me as laughable to be honest. mma basically wear fingerless gloves and he'll be wearing 10 oz pillows on his hands compared.

I think Mc's stamina is a massive question mark too? Have no idea how the energy exerted in an MMA fight compares with boxing but they sure do look to rapidly run out of steam.

If he was fighting a top drawer pressure fighter (boxer) I wouldn't give him a hope in hells of lasting a few rounds, absolutely certain he would get slaughtered. However, it's Floyd.

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

I would give Floyd a way better chance to beat Conor in MMA than I would give Conor to beat Floyd in a boxing matchup.

Floyd will definitely KO Conor if he wants to (which I'm assuming he will).

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"He'll stop him if he wants to" is cliche nonsense (imo). I grew up believing that too, however, the only real reason a fighter seemingly in a postition to KO their opponent doesn't is because they can't. They don't want to risk opening themselves up, tiring out. It's purely about a fighters mindset. 99.9% of them orgasm when they hurt/buzz/wobble their opponent and instinctively attempt to render them unconcious immediately.

So Floyd will definitely KO Conor if he can, if he doesn't it's because he wasn't capable.

Floyd wouldn't have a hope in hells of beating a highly skilled expert in kicking, kneeing, elbowing (he'd be good at that mind), wrestling, tripping and twisting arms and legs off. Floyd is fighting a man that has to be severely handicapped to make the crossover event viable.

MMA experts make boxers look primitive.

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I would give Floyd a way better chance to beat Conor in MMA than I would give Conor to beat Floyd in a boxing matchup.

Floyd will definitely KO Conor if he wants to (which I'm assuming he will).

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"He'll stop him if he wants to" is cliche nonsense (imo). I grew up believing that too, however, the only real reason a fighter seemingly in a postition to KO their opponent doesn't is because they can't. They don't want to risk opening themselves up, tiring out. It's purely about a fighters mindset. 99.9% of them orgasm when they hurt/buzz/wobble their opponent and instinctively attempt to render them unconcious immediately.

So Floyd will definitely KO Conor if he can, if he doesn't it's because he wasn't capable.

Floyd wouldn't have a hope in hells of beating a highly skilled expert in kicking, kneeing, elbowing (he'd be good at that mind), wrestling, tripping and twisting arms and legs off. Floyd is fighting a man that has to be severely handicapped to make the crossover event viable.

MMA experts make boxers look primitive.

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I don't know fen I watch mma and I see the flailing on the floor and I think they make boxing look more beautiful

For sure, I mean for practical reasons though.

And I specifically mean the very best practitioners of MMA, not just any old joe soap.

Floyd would knock half the UFC bods his size spark out with a jab if allowed to wear the knuckle dusters. Effing scary to think what would happen if sicko boxing bangers would do in the knuckle dusters. Frightening.

Actually rethinking this - Floyd's footwork and reflexes are a huge factor in what makes him such a great fighter, he could easily feint/slip and flush a righthand/lefthook straight onto an MMA bods bonce. With the knuckle dusters it would be goodnight irene before they knew what hit them.

Yeah, Floyd-Mc in a cage isn't really much different a mismatch as it is under boxing rules.

Fact.

The only difference is that Boxing is a Sport! anything where you can Elbow your opponent, hit him with virtually bare fists and Punch the fucker when he is down on the floor , is glorified Street fighting thuggery! you can't call it a Sport.