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Canelo and his fortunate scorecards
just looking through some of his previous scorecards on BoxRec
Mayweather completely shut him out yet he got a 114-114
Austin Trout was a close fight (I'm not debating the winner here just saying it was close) and he got a 109-118
Erislandy Lara won the fight yet Canelo got cards of 115-113 and 117-111 whilst Lara had one card go his way at 115-113
GGG won (in a lot of peoples opinion) a very close fight yet Canelo scraped a draw because of a 118-110
4 strange score cards in 4 years
is there anyone else as 'fortunate' as Canelo, not only does he look like an Irishman he has the luck of one as well
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Re: Canelo and his fortunate scorecards
Titofan has been saying this for years, that Canelo is a protected fighter and even when Khan was out boxing him some judge had him level/winning.
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The only fighter I can think of that gets better cards was rocky Juarez. For some reason they really tried to push him.
I had him losing to trout but beating Lara. Both fights were close so the decisions weren't robberies but I agree with the wide scoring. It's like these judges filled out the cards the day before.
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118-110 was wrong but she was still going to score the match for Canelo.
It was not a robbery.
Roy Jones loosing at the olympics was a robbery.
The scorecard was pathetic but it still would have been a draw.
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imp
118-110 was wrong but she was still going to score the match for Canelo.
It was not a robbery.
Roy Jones loosing at the olympics was a robbery.
The scorecard was pathetic but it still would have been a draw.
I think a draw was fortunate for Canelo but not a robbery. Kind of like when Ward got the decision over Kovalev in their first fight. Just fortunate scoring for Ward but not a robbery. It's just that about 99% of people thought that GGG won so take out the corrupt scorecard and replace it with someone else and GGG wins the fight.
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Seriously the way you lot talk, it's as if Canelo has never actually won a fight and is completely incapable. Against Lara, Canelo landed 88 power punches to only 52 for Lara.Against Trout, Alvarez landed 95 of his power punches to 96 for Lara but Canelo scored a knockdown in the fight. Against Golovkin, Canelo landed 114 power punches to 110 for Golovkin. Alvarez landed at a higher connect percentage in all of those fights meaning he was more accurate and had the better defence.
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powerpuncher
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imp
118-110 was wrong but she was still going to score the match for Canelo.
It was not a robbery.
Roy Jones loosing at the olympics was a robbery.
The scorecard was pathetic but it still would have been a draw.
I think a draw was fortunate for Canelo but not a robbery. Kind of like when Ward got the decision over Kovalev in their first fight. Just fortunate scoring for Ward but not a robbery. It's just that about 99% of people thought that GGG won so take out the corrupt scorecard and replace it with someone else and GGG wins the fight.
I can happily say I'm a massive Ward fan (not the greatest to watch) but I had Kovalev edging the first fight.. but it could have went either way!
There's no way Ward deserved to take that mans belt on that performance.. but it was no robbery!
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It seems canelo has been protected since day one. Groomed for the gate and ppv. Ever since the trout fight, which canelo lost, I have disliked him
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walrus
It seems canelo has been protected since day one. Groomed for the gate and ppv. Ever since the trout fight, which canelo lost, I have disliked him
The corporations and establishment need a ppv star to peddle their business model and he has to keep winning to bring in the money.
Canelo normally has the judge's, home venue, alphabet bodies and size to beat his opponents. Saul is a good fighter but not a great one which is what they have to try and make him.
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imp
118-110 was wrong but she was still going to score the match for Canelo.
It was not a robbery.
The scorecard was pathetic but it still would have been a draw.
Exactly all you idiots complaining about the 118 to 110 card just say that card had been 1:15 to 1:13 for Canelo.... it still would have been a draw
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
imp
118-110 was wrong but she was still going to score the match for Canelo.
It was not a robbery.
The scorecard was pathetic but it still would have been a draw.
Exactly all you idiots complaining about the 118 to 110 card just say that card had been 1:15 to 1:13 for Canelo.... it still would have been a draw
Well I haven't at any point said it was a robbery and I have said several times that I would have been absolutely fine with a 115/113 card and a draw.
I can't understand how you can be happy with such an inept fucking judge though, the mind fucking boggles.
The only fucking idiots who are happy to accept a corrupt fucking scorecard as long as their man gets the result.
Again for all the fucking idiots who struggle to comprehend this "it wasn't a robbery, a draw is a fair result, adalaide byrd is either completely and utterly inept at a job that she has been doing for years or she is fucking corrupt" and looking at some of Canelos previous cards it would suggest the latter.
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I will go on record saying I feel it was a robbery. A draw is bullshit triple g won the fight. I think shit like this keeps boxing in the background how can you have faith in such a corrupt sport when the loser wins
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
imp
118-110 was wrong but she was still going to score the match for Canelo.
It was not a robbery.
The scorecard was pathetic but it still would have been a draw.
Exactly all you idiots complaining about the 118 to 110 card just say that card had been 1:15 to 1:13 for Canelo.... it still would have been a draw
You no fuck all about boxing.;D
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
imp
118-110 was wrong but she was still going to score the match for Canelo.
It was not a robbery.
The scorecard was pathetic but it still would have been a draw.
Exactly all you idiots complaining about the 118 to 110 card just say that card had been 1:15 to 1:13 for Canelo.... it still would have been a draw
And still would have been a robbery as the man that 95% of the world saw win didn't.
So far on Saddo's 4 people have claimed Golovkin lost.
Brocktonblockbum
Impflomo
Gamotroll
YajkhjkljhfdjIQof50
Four great boxing minds there.
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
imp
118-110 was wrong but she was still going to score the match for Canelo.
It was not a robbery.
The scorecard was pathetic but it still would have been a draw.
Exactly all you idiots complaining about the 118 to 110 card just say that card had been 1:15 to 1:13 for Canelo.... it still would have been a draw
And still would have been a robbery as the man that 95% of the world saw win didn't.
So far on Saddo's 4 people have claimed Golovkin lost.
Brocktonblockbum
Impflomo
Gamotroll
YajkhjkljhfdjIQof50
Four great boxing minds there.
Fenster,
Give me a break..I'm 50-0 correct on Floyds career.
I can't get everything right...lol
There's many more Supporting Canelo on this forum.. but their too scared to get flamed..
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
imp
118-110 was wrong but she was still going to score the match for Canelo.
It was not a robbery.
The scorecard was pathetic but it still would have been a draw.
Exactly all you idiots complaining about the 118 to 110 card just say that card had been 1:15 to 1:13 for Canelo.... it still would have been a draw
And still would have been a robbery as the man that 95% of the world saw win didn't.
So far on Saddo's 4 people have claimed Golovkin lost.
Brocktonblockbum
Impflomo
Gamotroll
YajkhjkljhfdjIQof50
Four great boxing minds there.
Imp I don't remember being a particular bad/controversial poster. He never seemed like a troll. The other 3 are though. So I would say that Imp is the only normal poster who had Canelo winning
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walrus
I will go on record saying I feel it was a robbery. A draw is bullshit triple g won the fight. I think shit like this keeps boxing in the background how can you have faith in such a corrupt sport when the loser wins
Yes a draw was not a fair or unbiased result. It was a calculated and damage control based decision. GGG won more rounds and thus the fight. We all know it.
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powerpuncher
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
imp
118-110 was wrong but she was still going to score the match for Canelo.
It was not a robbery.
The scorecard was pathetic but it still would have been a draw.
Exactly all you idiots complaining about the 118 to 110 card just say that card had been 1:15 to 1:13 for Canelo.... it still would have been a draw
And still would have been a robbery as the man that 95% of the world saw win didn't.
So far on Saddo's 4 people have claimed Golovkin lost.
Brocktonblockbum
Impflomo
Gamotroll
YajkhjkljhfdjIQof50
Four great boxing minds there.
Imp I don't remember being a particular bad/controversial poster. He never seemed like a troll. The other 3 are though. So I would say that Imp is the only normal poster who had Canelo winning
Imp is cool and all... if the worst thing that can be said about you is that you love Floyd too much you're not doing too bad.
As for the others, a band of trolls all on the same page, what a surprise (:rolleyes:)
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I have not yet seen the fight. :o Yeah..... that's right.
But I did see Teddy Atlas blow a gasket on national TV after the fight, along with Stephen A. Smith. At no other time have I seen Atlas so agitated. He called boxing corrupt (so what else is new.... :rolleyes: ). I saw on another thread where 97% of polled viewers that watched the fight saw GGG winning. 97 f*cking percent. PLUS...... the 3% was made up of DLH and probably Canelo's mom.
I'll see the replay, but will shut if off before the decision is announced.
It's yet another black eye for boxing.
....and yes... @Master is right. I've been saying this shit for years. Canelo is the protected golden goose of GBP and even boxing itself. The corrupt machinery Atlas was blowing a gasket about is the same machinery that will NEVER allow Canelo to lose a decision. He'll never venture out of Vegas, so what's the point.
F*ck this shit.
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TitoFan
the same machinery that will NEVER allow Canelo to lose a decision.
Canelo has lost a decision :confused:
The (so called) middleweight champion couldn't beat Canelo as convincingly as a 36 year old super featherweight could and that says more about Golovkin than it does the judges. People just can't admit their golden boy destroyer wasn't the fighter they all made him out to be and they can't accept that he's one dimensional and overrated.
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GaMo
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TitoFan
the same machinery that will NEVER allow Canelo to lose a decision.
Canelo has lost a decision :confused:
The (so called) middleweight champion couldn't beat Canelo as convincingly as a 36 year old super featherweight could and that says more about Golovkin than it does the judges. People just can't admit their golden boy destroyer wasn't the fighter they all made him out to be and they can't accept that he's one dimensional and overrated.
GGG did not have to beat Canelo convincingly. Canelo had to win the title which he failed to do. GGG has the belts.
Canelo can hide and try an avoid a rematch for another 18 months.
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Master
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GaMo
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TitoFan
the same machinery that will NEVER allow Canelo to lose a decision.
Canelo has lost a decision :confused:
The (so called) middleweight champion couldn't beat Canelo as convincingly as a 36 year old super featherweight could and that says more about Golovkin than it does the judges. People just can't admit their golden boy destroyer wasn't the fighter they all made him out to be and they can't accept that he's one dimensional and overrated.
GGG did not have to beat Canelo convincingly. Canelo had to win the title which he failed to do. GGG has the belts.
Canelo can hide and try an avoid a rematch for another 18 months.
Golovkin at 35 and fighting in his own weight division couldn't even replicate what a 36 year old super featherweight did before him. Floyd was a year old and naturally 30lbs lighter yet he was able to beat Canelo and GGG was not! It just shows the level of these guys.
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GaMo
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Originally Posted by
Master
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GaMo
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
the same machinery that will NEVER allow Canelo to lose a decision.
Canelo has lost a decision :confused:
The (so called) middleweight champion couldn't beat Canelo as convincingly as a 36 year old super featherweight could and that says more about Golovkin than it does the judges. People just can't admit their golden boy destroyer wasn't the fighter they all made him out to be and they can't accept that he's one dimensional and overrated.
GGG did not have to beat Canelo convincingly. Canelo had to win the title which he failed to do. GGG has the belts.
Canelo can hide and try an avoid a rematch for another 18 months.
Golovkin at 35 and fighting in his own weight division couldn't even replicate what a 36 year old super featherweight did before him. Floyd was a year old and naturally 30lbs lighter yet he was able to beat Canelo and GGG was not! It just shows the level of these guys.
That is dumb logic which I can only expect from you.
Floyd would shit his pants if he ever got in the ring with GGG.
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Master
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GaMo
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
GaMo
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
the same machinery that will NEVER allow Canelo to lose a decision.
Canelo has lost a decision :confused:
The (so called) middleweight champion couldn't beat Canelo as convincingly as a 36 year old super featherweight could and that says more about Golovkin than it does the judges. People just can't admit their golden boy destroyer wasn't the fighter they all made him out to be and they can't accept that he's one dimensional and overrated.
GGG did not have to beat Canelo convincingly. Canelo had to win the title which he failed to do. GGG has the belts.
Canelo can hide and try an avoid a rematch for another 18 months.
Golovkin at 35 and fighting in his own weight division couldn't even replicate what a 36 year old super featherweight did before him. Floyd was a year old and naturally 30lbs lighter yet he was able to beat Canelo and GGG was not! It just shows the level of these guys.
That is dumb logic which I can only expect from you.
Floyd would shit his pants if he ever got in the ring with GGG.
Golovkin wouldn't lay a glove on Floyd, he could barely hit Canelo with a clean punch so how's he coming to touch one of the bests to ever do it? No chance.
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GaMo
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Master
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GaMo
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Originally Posted by
Master
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GaMo
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
the same machinery that will NEVER allow Canelo to lose a decision.
Canelo has lost a decision :confused:
The (so called) middleweight champion couldn't beat Canelo as convincingly as a 36 year old super featherweight could and that says more about Golovkin than it does the judges. People just can't admit their golden boy destroyer wasn't the fighter they all made him out to be and they can't accept that he's one dimensional and overrated.
GGG did not have to beat Canelo convincingly. Canelo had to win the title which he failed to do. GGG has the belts.
Canelo can hide and try an avoid a rematch for another 18 months.
Golovkin at 35 and fighting in his own weight division couldn't even replicate what a 36 year old super featherweight did before him. Floyd was a year old and naturally 30lbs lighter yet he was able to beat Canelo and GGG was not! It just shows the level of these guys.
That is dumb logic which I can only expect from you.
Floyd would shit his pants if he ever got in the ring with GGG.
Golovkin wouldn't lay a glove on Floyd, he could barely hit Canelo with a clean punch so how's he coming to touch one of the bests to ever do it? No chance.
At 160lb GGG would just need to catch the pretty boy once. We all know Floyd has no punch power so will run for 12 rounds.
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Floyd didn't totally shut Canelo out
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Master
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GaMo
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Master
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Originally Posted by
GaMo
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
GaMo
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
the same machinery that will NEVER allow Canelo to lose a decision.
Canelo has lost a decision :confused:
The (so called) middleweight champion couldn't beat Canelo as convincingly as a 36 year old super featherweight could and that says more about Golovkin than it does the judges. People just can't admit their golden boy destroyer wasn't the fighter they all made him out to be and they can't accept that he's one dimensional and overrated.
GGG did not have to beat Canelo convincingly. Canelo had to win the title which he failed to do. GGG has the belts.
Canelo can hide and try an avoid a rematch for another 18 months.
Golovkin at 35 and fighting in his own weight division couldn't even replicate what a 36 year old super featherweight did before him. Floyd was a year old and naturally 30lbs lighter yet he was able to beat Canelo and GGG was not! It just shows the level of these guys.
That is dumb logic which I can only expect from you.
Floyd would shit his pants if he ever got in the ring with GGG.
Golovkin wouldn't lay a glove on Floyd, he could barely hit Canelo with a clean punch so how's he coming to touch one of the bests to ever do it? No chance.
At 160lb GGG would just need to catch the pretty boy once. We all know Floyd has no punch power so will run for 12 rounds.
He wouldn't catch him once and even if he somehow did, Floyd has never been on the canvas so his chin would hold up plus I think we have all seen now that GGG has decent but not spectacular power. He couldn't hurt Alvarez who was coming up in weight.
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Floyd has been wobbled many times Corley, Manny and Shane and down by Judah.
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All those guys have great hand speed, Golovkin would be Floyd's slowest opponent. Seriously you still consider GGG a puncher? He couldn't even drop Kell Brook so there's no chance he floors Floyd. Mayweather would be four steps ahead of him.
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GaMo
All those guys have great hand speed, Golovkin would be Floyd's slowest opponent. Seriously you still consider GGG a puncher? He couldn't even drop Kell Brook so there's no chance he floors Floyd. Mayweather would be four steps ahead of him.
In reality GGG would wipe away Floyd who is too small. If those guys can wobble Floyd then GGG would decapitate him.
GGG busted Brook's eye socket, that is power.
GGG record speaks for itself.
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STOP TALKING ABOUT FLOYD
Fucks sake
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Master
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GaMo
All those guys have great hand speed, Golovkin would be Floyd's slowest opponent. Seriously you still consider GGG a puncher? He couldn't even drop Kell Brook so there's no chance he floors Floyd. Mayweather would be four steps ahead of him.
In reality GGG would wipe away Floyd who is too small. If those guys can wobble Floyd then GGG would decapitate him.
GGG busted Brook's eye socket, that is power.
GGG record speaks for itself.
You can't hurt what you can't hit. Mayweather isn't Brook
He doesn't quit or lose for that matter ;)
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GaMo
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Master
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GaMo
All those guys have great hand speed, Golovkin would be Floyd's slowest opponent. Seriously you still consider GGG a puncher? He couldn't even drop Kell Brook so there's no chance he floors Floyd. Mayweather would be four steps ahead of him.
In reality GGG would wipe away Floyd who is too small. If those guys can wobble Floyd then GGG would decapitate him.
GGG busted Brook's eye socket, that is power.
GGG record speaks for itself.
You can't hurt what you can't hit. Mayweather isn't Brook
He doesn't quit or lose for that matter ;)
can one of the mods set up a section of the forum dedicated to Floyd for the people who are more interested in him than the sport he competes in?
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I actually think this is a really really good idea
really good
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Master
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GaMo
All those guys have great hand speed, Golovkin would be Floyd's slowest opponent. Seriously you still consider GGG a puncher? He couldn't even drop Kell Brook so there's no chance he floors Floyd. Mayweather would be four steps ahead of him.
In reality GGG would wipe away Floyd who is too small. If those guys can wobble Floyd then GGG would decapitate him.
GGG busted Brook's eye socket, that is power.
GGG record speaks for itself.
So did Spence. are you saying Spence has the power of GGG? if so, you would have to believe that Spence would beat GGG as he is slicker and has the same power?
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erics44
I actually think this is a really really good idea
really good
yeah, you say that and then if there was a section, you and @Master would be on it 24/7. ;D
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Primo Carnera
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Master
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GaMo
All those guys have great hand speed, Golovkin would be Floyd's slowest opponent. Seriously you still consider GGG a puncher? He couldn't even drop Kell Brook so there's no chance he floors Floyd. Mayweather would be four steps ahead of him.
In reality GGG would wipe away Floyd who is too small. If those guys can wobble Floyd then GGG would decapitate him.
GGG busted Brook's eye socket, that is power.
GGG record speaks for itself.
So did Spence. are you saying Spence has the power of GGG? if so, you would have to believe that Spence would beat GGG as he is slicker and has the same power?
no when you break one part of your body then other similar parts of your body are prone to the same injury
its called empathy syndrome
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Primo Carnera
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erics44
I actually think this is a really really good idea
really good
yeah, you say that and then if there was a section, you and @
Master would be on it 24/7. ;D
no its for people who get erections when anyone mentions the words Floyd or Maywather
like yourself :)
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Batman
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GaMo
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Master
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GaMo
All those guys have great hand speed, Golovkin would be Floyd's slowest opponent. Seriously you still consider GGG a puncher? He couldn't even drop Kell Brook so there's no chance he floors Floyd. Mayweather would be four steps ahead of him.
In reality GGG would wipe away Floyd who is too small. If those guys can wobble Floyd then GGG would decapitate him.
GGG busted Brook's eye socket, that is power.
GGG record speaks for itself.
You can't hurt what you can't hit. Mayweather isn't Brook
He doesn't quit or lose for that matter ;)
can one of the mods set up a section of the forum dedicated to Floyd for the people who are more interested in him than the sport he competes in?
We're just comparing Floyd's performance against Alvarez to GGG's showing against him :confused: I don't know what the problem is and if you don't like it then simply don't respond to it.
