Jacobs signs for Matchroom. Jacobs-Arias/Miller-Wach/Benn-MexRS (SKY/HBO)

Interesting news this. I believe this is a big statement of intent from Jacobs. He wants the GGG rematch or Canelo or anyone else. (Although very little chance of BJS growing a pair, seeing as they're on different networks.)
The point is , for all those people who say "Jacobs isn't a big enough name or high profile " , this changes everything.
I think that highlights what a load of bollocks that all is.

So what does this mean for Jacobs? What matchroom fighters can be made for him?

Jacobs signs for Matchroom?

It'll be funny when he gets beat by Linares.

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So what does this mean for Jacobs? What matchroom fighters can be made for him?

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It's not about Matchroom fighters, it's about having the clout behind you to get the big fights with nobody avoiding him. Like your mate in a rematch for example.

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So what does this mean for Jacobs? What matchroom fighters can be made for him?

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It's not about Matchroom fighters, it's about having the clout behind you to get the big fights with nobody avoiding him. Like your mate in a rematch for example.

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We would have made sense to sign for K2 for GGG rematch and Oscar for Canelo.

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So what does this mean for Jacobs? What matchroom fighters can be made for him?

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It's not about Matchroom fighters, it's about having the clout behind you to get the big fights with nobody avoiding him. Like your mate in a rematch for example.

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We would have made sense to sign for K2 for GGG rematch and Oscar for Canelo.

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Yeah, in your World.
1. K2 may not want to sign him if they don't want the rematch.
2. Why sign a rival to your top man? Lose, lose.
If GGG wins, you've signed someone with less future earning potential and if Jacobs wins, you've blown your top earner!
Time for a rethink?

He signed with HBO and Matchroom.

Jacobs, backed by HBO, Fast Eddie and Al. Kicking off this next chapter of his career by wasting his time against some bloke no ones ever heard of. #takingover

If anything looks like it gets him main event status. With Jarrell Miller :-X. Not exactly an A+ card for hbo. Saw him originally on undercard of Wilder v Ortiz a week later.

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Jacobs, backed by HBO, Fast Eddie and Al. Kicking off this next chapter of his career by wasting his time against some bloke no ones ever heard of. #takingover

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Better he should just fight Lemieux right? Maybe get a gun, a contract and a pen and go make him sign right? Damn Jacobs for being turned down by all the top guys, cowardly of him to be turned down.

He's fighting Arias in November. That's a pretty good fight.

Arias ain't no warm up, be surprised if that's legit (could well be a short lived partnership if so). Listening to Hearn it sounded like Jacobs was getting a gimme before Lemmy (clearly who Hearn wants) whilst waiting for Golovkin/Canelo to repeat what we've already seen.

At least Jacobs hasn't any excuses now - landed himself a top promoter who deals with all the top American outfits without silly politics getting in the way and a HBO deal. And in Britain we're guaranteed his fights/cards live on Sky (result)

What I find interesting about this decision from Jacobs and Haymon is that there are just as many fighters Jacobs could have faced on Showtime as there are on HBO. Showtime has a number of middleweights in Charlo and Derevyanchenko. BJS can also fight on on Showtime and HBO. They made it sound like most of the middleweights were at HBO. The truth is that Jacobs had options on Showtime. The only reason he is leaving the PBC is that money must have dried up. Right?

Hearn has exactly one American fighter. He's never put on a US show but now wants to move into the US market. What promoters are going to help him by making fights with him? All these people trying to get into the market have the same problem. There have been two rappers signed a couple of fighters and found they were struggling to make any fights. One managed Ward against Kovalev but only because Kovalev was with a second tier promoter.

The last guy to move into the US market in a big way as a promoter was Oscar and he was the biggest thing in boxing at the time and had Hopkins, Mosley, half a dozen other names and a bunch of top prospects which created something HBO couldn't ignore. Then you had Haymon who isn't a promoter and tried his own thing and so far has managed to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. So how does this work for Hearn? Guys like Arum and Oscar are going to be queuing up to help him take their business?

I wouldn't mind Jacobs vs Canelo.....I like seeing Canelo lose, it's getting kind of fun. I mean sure he """"Drew"""" with GGG but let's be honest folks, he got his ass beat the majority of that fight. He had a few moments, but not half of the moments.....half of the moments wasn't a thing he had or could be accused of having. Canelo is found completely innocent of holding half of the moments in that fight.


Charlo vs Jacobs eventually needs to happen, that is the one that piques my interest the most.

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Hearn has exactly one American fighter. He's never put on a US show but now wants to move into the US market. What promoters are going to help him by making fights with him? All these people trying to get into the market have the same problem. There have been two rappers signed a couple of fighters and found they were struggling to make any fights. One managed Ward against Kovalev but only because Kovalev was with a second tier promoter.

The last guy to move into the US market in a big way as a promoter was Oscar and he was the biggest thing in boxing at the time and had Hopkins, Mosley, half a dozen other names and a bunch of top prospects which created something HBO couldn't ignore. Then you had Haymon who isn't a promoter and tried his own thing and so far has managed to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. So how does this work for Hearn? Guys like Arum and Oscar are going to be queuing up to help him take their business?

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Young Edward isn't starting from scratch he has an impressive track record and a loaded stable bursting at the seems. Surely the important bit is HBO love him - three dates already and counting.

Burnett-ZZ (unification)
Bivol (undercard - Chisora, Quigg and McDonnell "world" title fight)
Jacobs (undercard - Big Baby-Wach *** ***)

Tom Loeffler did a terrific job getting Golovkin out there which led to getting HBO dates for Chocolatito and the whole superfly stuff. The Arum's and Oscar's weren't scared about their business being stolen, an independent just made it easier to do business. The biggest problem the rappers seemed to have was - more money than sense. They paid fighters a fortune for shit mismatches and attempted to flog it to the "wrong" demographic.

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Hearn has exactly one American fighter. He's never put on a US show but now wants to move into the US market. What promoters are going to help him by making fights with him? All these people trying to get into the market have the same problem. There have been two rappers signed a couple of fighters and found they were struggling to make any fights. One managed Ward against Kovalev but only because Kovalev was with a second tier promoter.

The last guy to move into the US market in a big way as a promoter was Oscar and he was the biggest thing in boxing at the time and had Hopkins, Mosley, half a dozen other names and a bunch of top prospects which created something HBO couldn't ignore. Then you had Haymon who isn't a promoter and tried his own thing and so far has managed to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. So how does this work for Hearn? Guys like Arum and Oscar are going to be queuing up to help him take their business?

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Young Edward isn't starting from scratch he has an impressive track record and a loaded stable bursting at the seems. Surely the important bit is HBO love him - three dates already and counting.

Burnett-ZZ (unification)
Bivol (undercard - Chisora, Quigg and McDonnell "world" title fight)
Jacobs (undercard - Big Baby-Wach *** ***)

Tom Loeffler did a terrific job getting Golovkin out there which led to getting HBO dates for Chocolatito and the whole superfly stuff. The Arum's and Oscar's weren't scared about their business being stolen, an independent just made it easier to do business. The biggest problem the rappers seemed to have was - more money than sense. They paid fighters a fortune for shit mismatches and attempted to flog it to the "wrong" demographic.

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HBO might be short of options now Arum left so they're buying up the rights to foreign cards but I'm not sure Hearn can do much actually in America with American fighters. He can bring his guys over and co promote some fights but he was doing that anyway. I think Yafai might end up on the next superfly bill from what the HBO people are saying and there are other fights that can be made like that but promoting big cards means signing up a bunch of big name fighters. He could bring Joshua over for a fight at some point but I read Joshua is going to be on his way soon anyway.

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Hearn has exactly one American fighter. He's never put on a US show but now wants to move into the US market. What promoters are going to help him by making fights with him? All these people trying to get into the market have the same problem. There have been two rappers signed a couple of fighters and found they were struggling to make any fights. One managed Ward against Kovalev but only because Kovalev was with a second tier promoter.

The last guy to move into the US market in a big way as a promoter was Oscar and he was the biggest thing in boxing at the time and had Hopkins, Mosley, half a dozen other names and a bunch of top prospects which created something HBO couldn't ignore. Then you had Haymon who isn't a promoter and tried his own thing and so far has managed to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. So how does this work for Hearn? Guys like Arum and Oscar are going to be queuing up to help him take their business?

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Young Edward isn't starting from scratch he has an impressive track record and a loaded stable bursting at the seems. Surely the important bit is HBO love him - three dates already and counting.

Burnett-ZZ (unification)
Bivol (undercard - Chisora, Quigg and McDonnell "world" title fight)
Jacobs (undercard - Big Baby-Wach *** ***)

Tom Loeffler did a terrific job getting Golovkin out there which led to getting HBO dates for Chocolatito and the whole superfly stuff. The Arum's and Oscar's weren't scared about their business being stolen, an independent just made it easier to do business. The biggest problem the rappers seemed to have was - more money than sense. They paid fighters a fortune for shit mismatches and attempted to flog it to the "wrong" demographic.

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HBO might be short of options now Arum left so they're buying up the rights to foreign cards but I'm not sure Hearn can do much actually in America with American fighters. He can bring his guys over and co promote some fights but he was doing that anyway. I think Yafai might end up on the next superfly bill from what the HBO people are saying and there are other fights that can be made like that but promoting big cards means signing up a bunch of big name fighters. He could bring Joshua over for a fight at some point but I read Joshua is going to be on his way soon anyway.

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Interesting. Any more on this?

Thats been a whisper for years. It's a no brainer that Joshua will at some point set up AJ promotions.

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Thats been a whisper for years. It's a no brainer that Joshua will at some point set up AJ promotions.

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I think that's the only way he leaves the Hearn/Sky model. Maybe Sky deal with him direct.
But he'll need somebody special to set that up. And it has to be someone he trusts implicitly with very deep wallets or backers.
Could cause massive rumblings in British Boxing.

AJ has a current deal with Showtime, he won't be on HBO anytime soon although without doubt their longterm goal is to get him, that's why they fought so hard for a piece of the Wlad fight. Both companies, obviously, consider him a potential massive PPV star in America.

As Memphis said - AJ leaving Hearn is not only inevitable but Hearn has never made a secret about it from day dot. You can pull up dozens of IFL interviews with Hearn joking about AJ giving him a job and explaining exactly why AJ Promotions will stand alone in the not too distant future.

Also AJ already has a big management firm that doesn't just deal with his own affairs but also manage a bunch of top prospects - Buatsi, Okolie, Olympians etc..

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Hearn has exactly one American fighter. He's never put on a US show but now wants to move into the US market. What promoters are going to help him by making fights with him? All these people trying to get into the market have the same problem. There have been two rappers signed a couple of fighters and found they were struggling to make any fights. One managed Ward against Kovalev but only because Kovalev was with a second tier promoter.

The last guy to move into the US market in a big way as a promoter was Oscar and he was the biggest thing in boxing at the time and had Hopkins, Mosley, half a dozen other names and a bunch of top prospects which created something HBO couldn't ignore. Then you had Haymon who isn't a promoter and tried his own thing and so far has managed to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. So how does this work for Hearn? Guys like Arum and Oscar are going to be queuing up to help him take their business?

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Young Edward isn't starting from scratch he has an impressive track record and a loaded stable bursting at the seems. Surely the important bit is HBO love him - three dates already and counting.

Burnett-ZZ (unification)
Bivol (undercard - Chisora, Quigg and McDonnell "world" title fight)
Jacobs (undercard - Big Baby-Wach *** ***)

Tom Loeffler did a terrific job getting Golovkin out there which led to getting HBO dates for Chocolatito and the whole superfly stuff. The Arum's and Oscar's weren't scared about their business being stolen, an independent just made it easier to do business. The biggest problem the rappers seemed to have was - more money than sense. They paid fighters a fortune for shit mismatches and attempted to flog it to the "wrong" demographic.

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HBO might be short of options now Arum left so they're buying up the rights to foreign cards but I'm not sure Hearn can do much actually in America with American fighters. He can bring his guys over and co promote some fights but he was doing that anyway. I think Yafai might end up on the next superfly bill from what the HBO people are saying and there are other fights that can be made like that but promoting big cards means signing up a bunch of big name fighters. He could bring Joshua over for a fight at some point but I read Joshua is going to be on his way soon anyway.

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Interesting. Any more on this?

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I think it was the Daily Mail. Joshua didn't mention Hearn in the list of people he thanked after the last fight, there's been some issues behind the scenes and apparently when his contract is up he's off.

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Hearn has exactly one American fighter. He's never put on a US show but now wants to move into the US market. What promoters are going to help him by making fights with him? All these people trying to get into the market have the same problem. There have been two rappers signed a couple of fighters and found they were struggling to make any fights. One managed Ward against Kovalev but only because Kovalev was with a second tier promoter.

The last guy to move into the US market in a big way as a promoter was Oscar and he was the biggest thing in boxing at the time and had Hopkins, Mosley, half a dozen other names and a bunch of top prospects which created something HBO couldn't ignore. Then you had Haymon who isn't a promoter and tried his own thing and so far has managed to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. So how does this work for Hearn? Guys like Arum and Oscar are going to be queuing up to help him take their business?

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Young Edward isn't starting from scratch he has an impressive track record and a loaded stable bursting at the seems. Surely the important bit is HBO love him - three dates already and counting.

Burnett-ZZ (unification)
Bivol (undercard - Chisora, Quigg and McDonnell "world" title fight)
Jacobs (undercard - Big Baby-Wach *** ***)

Tom Loeffler did a terrific job getting Golovkin out there which led to getting HBO dates for Chocolatito and the whole superfly stuff. The Arum's and Oscar's weren't scared about their business being stolen, an independent just made it easier to do business. The biggest problem the rappers seemed to have was - more money than sense. They paid fighters a fortune for shit mismatches and attempted to flog it to the "wrong" demographic.

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HBO might be short of options now Arum left so they're buying up the rights to foreign cards but I'm not sure Hearn can do much actually in America with American fighters. He can bring his guys over and co promote some fights but he was doing that anyway. I think Yafai might end up on the next superfly bill from what the HBO people are saying and there are other fights that can be made like that but promoting big cards means signing up a bunch of big name fighters. He could bring Joshua over for a fight at some point but I read Joshua is going to be on his way soon anyway.

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Interesting. Any more on this?

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I think it was the Daily Mail. Joshua didn't mention Hearn in the list of people he thanked after the last fight, there's been some issues behind the scenes and apparently when his contract is up he's off.

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That would be brilliant to see. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKdUBlDX0AAZu0Q.jpg

Arias it is, good fight. Arias looks a small middleweight (especially compared to the LH Jacobs) and isn't a dynamite puncher (that is their reasoning if i'm their matchmaker). I thought Arias was impressive on the undercard of one of the big recent fights.

I reckon many fans/media/boxing folk are currently overrating Jacobs a tad on the back of giving Golovkin a decent argument (Incidentally I thought he was underrated before Golovkin). Now i'm not one to write a fighter off after one bad sparko/loss but it wasn't long ago that Jacobs was stinking the joint out and getting dumped on his arse by Mora.

Bookies are too scared to price this up.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4VWdYAxYJA

Jacobs says he can knockout Canelo, I say he gets knocked out himself even if he weighs 180lbs.

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You may not like this but if GGG can not knock out Jacobs weighing as a light heavy then Canelo would not either.

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Jacobs says he can knockout Canelo, I say he gets knocked out himself even if he weighs 180lbs.

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You may not like this but if GGG can not knock out Jacobs weighing as a light heavy then Canelo would not either.

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Faster hands and he’ll throw shots that Jacobs doesn’t see. You can see everything GGG does because it comes so slowly

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Jacobs says he can knockout Canelo, I say he gets knocked out himself even if he weighs 180lbs.

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You may not like this but if GGG can not knock out Jacobs weighing as a light heavy then Canelo would not either.

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Faster hands and he’ll throw shots that Jacobs doesn’t see. You can see everything GGG does because it comes so slowly

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Dreaming about your fighter again. :)

Arias is 6/1 (general), McGregor was over twice as likely to beat Floyd (UFC fans ;D)

Wach is 8/1 to outplod Fat Baby.

Arias is 6/1 (general), McGregor was over twice as likely to beat Floyd (UFC fans ;D)

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So what does this mean for Jacobs? What matchroom fighters can be made for him?

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It's not about Matchroom fighters, it's about having the clout behind you to get the big fights with nobody avoiding him. Like your mate in a rematch for example.

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How does Matchroom give you more clout?

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So what does this mean for Jacobs? What matchroom fighters can be made for him?

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It's not about Matchroom fighters, it's about having the clout behind you to get the big fights with nobody avoiding him. Like your mate in a rematch for example.

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How does Matchroom give you more clout?

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With the financial backing of Sky/Matchroom , fights can be made easier. They had enough financial muscle to tempt GGG to fight in the UK against a guy 2 weights below, so it's feasible that they can push through fights against Canelo or GGG imo.
until now, it's been all too easy for Canelo and GGG to ignore Jacobs and push him out of the picture, waiting on the sidelines for sometime never.

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So what does this mean for Jacobs? What matchroom fighters can be made for him?

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It's not about Matchroom fighters, it's about having the clout behind you to get the big fights with nobody avoiding him. Like your mate in a rematch for example.

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How does Matchroom give you more clout?

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With the financial backing of Sky/Matchroom , fights can be made easier. They had enough financial muscle to tempt GGG to fight in the UK against a guy 2 weights below, so it's feasible that they can push through fights against Canelo or GGG imo.
until now, it's been all too easy for Canelo and GGG to ignore Jacobs and push him out of the picture, waiting on the sidelines for sometime never.

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Speaking of ignoring Jacobs, throw Charlo in. And Charlo/Jacobs is quickly getting talk as I said months ago it would, knowing GGG, Canelo, Lemieux and BJS would have no interest in fighting 6'1 guys with power in both hands. Jacobs said he wants the top guys and was the first one to say Charlo's name without "I won't fight" attached. Charlo fired back that he's down. I'm rather sure we all suspect Canelo will go after BJS/Lemieux winner, if GGG won't fight Jacobs or Charlo that leaves those 2 to fight. Any way you slice it MW suddenly has many good possibilities between

BJS
Lemieux and the good fighters

GGG
Jacobs
Charlo
Canelo

Sucks Canelo is completely in charge of who fights whom.

I don't recall anyone calling out Derevyanchenko.

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I don't recall anyone calling out Derevyanchenko.

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Probably because they can't pronounce his name! ;)

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I don't recall anyone calling out Derevyanchenko.

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Probably because they can't pronounce his name! ;)

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Nice.

Well. Shit :-X. Seldin all over Ortiz dropping him twice!

Celdin throwing his right hand like a baseball.

Ortiz gets nailed with the first one chucked ;D

Do me a favour

Both looked hurt there, Seldin wobbled back. Real free for all early.