According to fat Dan they have agreed to the fight. December 16th is the date I think. Good fight. Let’s see if Lemieux can make a Saunders fight exciting or if Saunders can make a Lemieux fight boring.
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According to fat Dan they have agreed to the fight. December 16th is the date I think. Good fight. Let’s see if Lemieux can make a Saunders fight exciting or if Saunders can make a Lemieux fight boring.
Good interesting fight, where is it?
The rumour is it's gonna be in Canada. Couple of thoughts.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
1. Although he probably never had a choice in the opponent if he wanted to keep his title, props to Saunders that he's actually fighting Lemieux.
2. Yet again, old Frankie baby has decided not to back his man with his wallet to get him home advantage.
I really think it could be crucial in this fight. If it's in Canada, Lemieux wins , without a doubt.
If it's in the U.K. , Saunders might get a hometown robbery decision.
Saunders wins an easy decision. Lemieux is shit and he won't land a glove on Saunders.
Always weary of the one brick sluggers but I think Lemieux will catch him. Monroe spent half a fight standing in front of him just posing and BJ actually thought he was in Golovkin-Canelo sweepstakes after.
Lemieux has a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
Lemiuex knocks Saunders's BLOCK clean off.... smooooottttthhhhhh out of his boxing shoes. Saunders will think he can box, but he will realize that he had better run at around the 3rd round. Then it is just a wait and see until Lemmy connects and then it is lights out.
I don't think Saunders beat Eubank cleanly. It could have gone either way, with Saunders tiring at the end.
Fuck Frank Warren!
I think people (not here as such) are getting carried away with Lemieux's punching power and jumping to the conclusion that Saunders is getting flattened.
I still dont like the fucker but for me, Saunders stands him on his head.
This post sums it up for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Saunders will make it boring to win and Lemieux the other way round.
I believe Saunders is a better boxer and want him to win in style.
Yeah, he can punch a bit but he won’t land clean and even if he does Saunders chin doesn’t seem that bad. It’ll be a shut out for the far better boxer against a very overrated puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
This is Saunders chance to back up all the talk, Lemieux is a solid challenger and a tough outing in his own back yard I don't like Saunders at all but if he pulls of a good win fair play to him. Tbh I think Saunders looses a close points 12 rounder.
I actually agree with GayMo on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMoYeah, he can punch a bit but he won’t land clean and even if he does Saunders chin doesn’t seem that bad. It’ll be a shut out for the far better boxer against a very overrated puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
BJS has a decent chin and I think he'll take a few big shots but ultimately will win on points after outboxing Lemmy
Then you’re getting smarter in your old age ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Saunders wins this and he has his GGG or Canelo fight next year..
We haven't seen the best of BJS.
I think Saunders just has to make it through the first few rounds and then it probably becomes his fight. He took some decent shots from Lee and kept himself out of the wheelhouse. He's a better boxer than Lemieux, so presumably if he doesn't pork up between fights and keeps himself sharp, he just uses his jab and footwork to play bullfighter the first few rounds.
Lemieux tends to load up which is a big tell. After he blows his wad in the first few, his shots become a lot easier to see because the wind up is slower and easier to spot. If Saunders keeps his back off the ropes, stays out of the corners, jabs and doesn't go straight back... he can put lemieux behind on the cards and Lemieux's desperation means he'll start loading up even more.
Lemieux could land a shot conceivably if he uses his jab and backs Saunders up and loops one over the top or sneaks one underneath on the left side on a panic stricken Saunders. For me the pro Saunders situation is easier to fathom because its not as much of a stretch for Saunders against a plodder. Lemieux working on his head movement and learning to deflect with his shoulders to create opportunities for himself on the inside before Saunders makes his exit, would up my stock in Lemieux for this fight.
The x factors are of course:
- The hometown advantage
- The weight issue, both fighters have a tendency to bloat, Lemieux tends to get stronger at the cost of endurance and Saunders just gets pudgy winded and looks disinterested overall.
- Whether enough Saunders Jab has enough on it to get lemieux thinking or just have him reset.
Going fucking senile more likeQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMoThen you’re getting smarter in your old age ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
I’ll get you a key finder for your birthday along with some viagra ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanGoing fucking senile more likeQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMoThen you’re getting smarter in your old age ;)Quote:
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Just put a bullet in my head, I'm about ready for the glue factory I reckonQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMoI’ll get you a key finder for your birthday along with some viagra ;)Quote:
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Originally Posted by Batman
He will need to box his ears off to win in Canada.
It's like frank warren is cashing out.
They will just moan about a dodgy decision and then move up and chase Eubanks?
Surely they would have made more money in England..?
Can Saunders KO this guy?
NoQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
He can outbox him but I don't think he gets the decision...Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanNoQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
He will beats it won’t be close.Quote:
Originally Posted by impHe can outbox him but I don't think he gets the decision...Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanNoQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
He may beats, but he may not get decisionQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMoHe will beats it won’t be close.Quote:
Originally Posted by impHe can outbox him but I don't think he gets the decision...Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanNoQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
Run rings around him, may he do, but Canucks on the score cards , shaft him they mightQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanHe may beats, but he may not get decisionQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMoHe will beats it won’t be close.Quote:
Originally Posted by impHe can outbox him but I don't think he gets the decision...Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanNoQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
He will because it’ll be so wide and obviousQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanHe may beats, but he may not get decisionQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMoHe will beats it won’t be close.Quote:
Originally Posted by impHe can outbox him but I don't think he gets the decision...Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanNoQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
Lots of interesting scenarios in this one. BJS is the better boxer no doubt but I doubt he can hurt Lemieux. Lemieux has struggled to make 160 in the past and Saunders has been known to fade late. Saunders can't wait and needs to get off first and keep Lemieux moving. If Lemieux keeps up aggressive pressure and dictates the pace I see him taking the decision.
I wouldn't be surprised if Saunders stopped Lemmy. He's a not a big puncher but certainly not a powderpuff one. Lee was turned into a drunk because he couldn't see where the punches were coming from, he stopped that Aussie fella (Jared?) a few rounds quicker than Jacobs did and prevented plenty of strong punchers from walking through him - Eubank Jr, Spike, Ryder, Hall etc.
He doesn't have to sparko Lemmy, he can bust his eyes/boat up. Seen many a one dimensional banger get stopped after spending all night swinging violently at thin air whilst getting gut sickeningly countered. Remember when Benn was out on his feet against Galvano who couldn't crack an egg.
Certainly a possibility but if Saunders is tentative and waiting I don't see it happening. Lemieux could punch himself out early swinging for the fences.
I don't respect Saunders's boxing ability all that much. I figure him to be ok, but he cannot run for 12 rounds and David will connect. I don't think Saunders has a weak chin, but I just don't think he has the capacity to keep David off of him. So, while boxing class goes to Saunders- we have 12 rounds to wait for the inevitable in my estimation. The inevitable being a Lemiuex left hook that puts Saunders on queer street and the fight changes at about the 3 to 5th round.
So many people on here sucking off Lemieux like he’s a world class fighter with the punch power of Tyson! The guy got put out by Rubio for fuck sake and he’s already been out boxed in his own backyard by some other bum. People are ranking Lemieux so highly based on what? Losing every round and getting stopped by Golovkin in a shitty performance. Saunders will win every round against this bum.
Nobody on here is sucking off Lemieux , they don't rate him that highly . It's just that you are bumming Saunders like he's some kind of boxing genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
Saunders has decent skills, but his stamina is shocking due to how he lives his life between camps.
He's hardly set the World alight. He beat a disinterested Monroe last time out, got his title by beating a journeyman (albeit a game one) and as for the Eubank fight, if he was conditioned well , he would've made Eubank look like a novice for 12 rounds , not just 6. He tired and made Eubank look better than he was.
In between all that, he has had some shockers.
Lemieux isn't brilliant, but he brings pressure and when Saunders tires, I'm not saying he KO's Saunders, but he can make him look pretty ragged and poor.
Saunders couldn't even win every round against Akavov.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
@Primo Carnera what are you reading!? Plenty on here with David’s dick down their throat. I fucking hate Saunders! He’s a cunt and his last fight was the worst I’ve sat through this year (Lara’s last is up there) but let’s be real, Lemieux was out boxed by Joachim Alcine for fuck sake! Angelo and Macklin both banged out Alcine in a round. He also got knocked out by Rubio (another whipping boy) Saunders will box rings around a fighter like Lemieux who relies on his power and has little else.
Lemieux couldn’t even beat Alcine! He couldn’t even go the distance with RubioQuote:
Originally Posted by AlphaSaunders couldn't even win every round against Akavov.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
I'm not saying Lemieux is elite but neither is Akavov.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMoLemieux couldn’t even beat Alcine! He couldn’t even go the distance with RubioQuote:
Originally Posted by AlphaSaunders couldn't even win every round against Akavov.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
Mate, I have just gone through every post in this thread, and the most complimentary thing I can find on Lemieux is "Solid Challenger!" It's hardly making him out to be the next Tyson!Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
The problem is that Saunders can't be trusted to do it right. It's about how he makes the weight, how he trains, how he conditions himself. It's to his advantage that this time , he won't have been out of the gym too long between camps.
If he had home advantage, he would've probably got the decision. Over there, it's a big ask.
It was probably in one of the Alvarez-Golovkin threads then. We were comparing their wins and everyone seemed to think Lemieux was some sort of killer. A middleweight version of George Foreman with a fancy haircut! Hope it happens so Saunders can prove me right although I’d actually rather Lemieux won because I can’t stand Saunders at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraMate, I have just gone through every post in this thread, and the most complimentary thing I can find on Lemieux is "Solid Challenger!" It's hardly making him out to be the next Tyson!Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
The problem is that Saunders can't be trusted to do it right. It's about how he makes the weight, how he trains, how he conditions himself. It's to his advantage that this time , he won't have been out of the gym too long between camps.
If he had home advantage, he would've probably got the decision. Over there, it's a big ask.
Looks like you're In a bit of a dilemma then! 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMoIt was probably in one of the Alvarez-Golovkin threads then. We were comparing their wins and everyone seemed to think Lemieux was some sort of killer. A middleweight version of George Foreman with a fancy haircut! Hope it happens so Saunders can prove me right although I’d actually rather Lemieux won because I can’t stand Saunders at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraMate, I have just gone through every post in this thread, and the most complimentary thing I can find on Lemieux is "Solid Challenger!" It's hardly making him out to be the next Tyson!Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
The problem is that Saunders can't be trusted to do it right. It's about how he makes the weight, how he trains, how he conditions himself. It's to his advantage that this time , he won't have been out of the gym too long between camps.
If he had home advantage, he would've probably got the decision. Over there, it's a big ask.
All joking aside, I respect that you don't let emotion cloud your judgement and you can make a solid case for someone you can't stand. I try to do that, but find that a lot of people on here struggle with that. 👍
That wraps up the irony of the week comp. (:D)Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraLooks like you're In a bit of a dilemma then! 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMoIt was probably in one of the Alvarez-Golovkin threads then. We were comparing their wins and everyone seemed to think Lemieux was some sort of killer. A middleweight version of George Foreman with a fancy haircut! Hope it happens so Saunders can prove me right although I’d actually rather Lemieux won because I can’t stand Saunders at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraMate, I have just gone through every post in this thread, and the most complimentary thing I can find on Lemieux is "Solid Challenger!" It's hardly making him out to be the next Tyson!Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
The problem is that Saunders can't be trusted to do it right. It's about how he makes the weight, how he trains, how he conditions himself. It's to his advantage that this time , he won't have been out of the gym too long between camps.
If he had home advantage, he would've probably got the decision. Over there, it's a big ask.
All joking aside, I respect that you don't let emotion cloud your judgement and you can make a solid case for someone you can't stand. I try to do that, but find that a lot of people on here struggle with that. 👍