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Hearn, Wilder, Finkell, Fury one call
This is an hour and 4 minutes or around that. A lot of annoying BS but some real points covered. Hearn is just like Arum, if he doesn’t want to answer a direct question he tells a story explaining rather than answer. It’s quite transparent if people aren’t stupid. Hearn says the truth when the truth works for him and tells a story when the truth doesn’t.
Basically what happens is Hearn is talking on Tha Boxing Voice, Wilder calls in to respond. Hearn tries a bit of BS so Wilder gets Finkell on the line too to clear it up, Eddie says they can meet while he’s in NY, Finkell asks for a specific day, Eddie doesn’t answer. Later Hearn says they can meet when he’s in NY again, Finkell asks when again, Hearn realizes he can’t avoid the question again so he says he has to check his schedule and he’ll email him in 2 minutes. He stayed on the line, there was no need to email, if he wasn’t being deceptive he could just say when.
Deontay goes on and on with his annoying blather but actually makes some points, mandatories are excuses, like Wilder says, you can give them step aside money.
What comes off even though Hearn says they can do it in the summer he really wants to do AJ/Fury in the summer. Can’t blame him for that, but just say it. For all the annoying talk it’s rather absurd to suggest Wilder doesn’t want the fight, he was willing to get all his people on the line to make it right then. He clearly wants it, whether he knows what he is getting into or not.
Fury joins at the end and Wilder and Fury suck each other off while bashing AJ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ4B85pkg5Q
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What Deontay, the fans phoning in and everyone on the panel was missing is - Hearn kept reiterating he has no problem making the fight next but it limits what he intended for the summer (as in stadiums and promotion), therefore Deontay won't get as much money as he wants.
I thought it was more interesting that Deontay kept calling for Joshua to come to America. He said the same thing on Showtime too. Sadly we're gonna hear Wilder has refused to come to the UK and he'll claim the money was bullshit.
You see, for all that bullshit Wilder and TBV were salivating over about AJ "ducking" him (Hearn owned them but it went over their heads - "Ducking since when? Saturday ;D), at the end of the day Wilder will only fight Joshua if he gets hugely compensated. For truth, listen to Wilder and Fury joking about each other stealing $50 million
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Hearn is an absolute cunt to try and force through a fight with Fury. They did not want to know when he was champion and now that he is fat and out of shape they want to make it in the summer.
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I know it's popular to hate Hearn but doing what a fighter wishes doesn't equate to "forcing" them into anything. Fighters employ people not the other way around, if Tyson had been with Matchroom from the start he wouldn't currently be a big fat banned bastard begging for an AJ fight.
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Regardless of the fact, why is Hearn trying to even contemplate AJ fighting the big fat banned bastard.
It is because he will be a soft touch in comparison to an active fighter like Wilder.
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Anthony Joshua set to face rival heavyweight champions Joseph Parker next, says agent
Anthony Joshua’s next fight will be against rival heavyweight champion Joseph Parker next spring, according to the Kiwi’s manager.
The claim fits in with the plans of Joshua’s promoter, Eddie Hearn, to stage a collision with American WBC belt holder Deontay Wilder later next year – should he defeat Parker.
David Higgins, manager of WBO title holder Parker, said in Auckland that Hearn had indicated to him that he wished to discuss a deal for next March or April.
“Eddie Hearn and I have exchanged e-mails,” Higgins said. “My message was that Joe would fight Joshua next – and Hearn’s message was that Joshua would fight Parker next.
“It is now a question of the deal and the money.”
"What we're saying is that Joseph Parker and Anthony Joshua have signalled that they will potentially fight next, as in March or April,"
"Our message to the Joshua camp is yes, we will take the fight. But the deal has to respect Joseph having earnt a genuine world title.
"The starting point for negotiations is obviously 50/50 but we would acknowledge that Joshua, if the fight were to happen in his home nation, he has a big fan base there.”
Parker, 25, is undefeated in 24 fights. But his most recent win was a laboured majority decision win over Britain’s Hughie Fury in Manchester in September.
Londoner Joshua, 28, holds the WBA and IBF titles.
"I want to fight Joshua. He has got two belts and I want to test his chin and put on a great show," Parker said.
Parker’s trainer Kevin Barry insisted that Joshua’s 10-round stoppage of Carlos Takam in Cardiff last month had exposed his shortcomings.
Barry said: "That Takam fight has put everything in perspective. Takam had done no sparring. He tested Joshua right to the end.
“We all saw that Joshua could not hurt Takam. That showed me he is beatable. He can’t knock you out with one punch. He is robotic.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news...cid=spartanntp
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Re: Hearn, Wilder, Finkell, Fury one call
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Master
Regardless of the fact, why is Hearn trying to even contemplate AJ fighting the big fat banned bastard.
It is because he will be a soft touch in comparison to an active fighter like Wilder.
You're in a tiny minority, a very, very tiny minority, that consists of nobody but you that doesn't want to see Joshua against Fury. And thinks Fury is a "soft touch" for AJ (:D)
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Master
Regardless of the fact, why is Hearn trying to even contemplate AJ fighting the big fat banned bastard.
It is because he will be a soft touch in comparison to an active fighter like Wilder.
You're in a tiny minority, a very, very tiny minority, that consists of nobody but you that doesn't want to see Joshua against Fury. And thinks Fury is a "soft touch" for AJ (:D)
Turning what I wrote around to suit your friend Eddie Hearn will not get away from the fact that Fury can not get back to the form he once was by summer next year.
I want to see a competitive fight and Wilder is it, even if it is a KO in a round.
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Master
Regardless of the fact, why is Hearn trying to even contemplate AJ fighting the big fat banned bastard.
It is because he will be a soft touch in comparison to an active fighter like Wilder.
You're in a tiny minority, a very, very tiny minority, that consists of nobody but you that doesn't want to see Joshua against Fury. And thinks Fury is a "soft touch" for AJ (:D)
Turning what I wrote around to suit your friend Eddie Hearn will not get away from the fact that AJ can not get back to the form he once was by summer next year.
I want to see a competitive fight and Wilder is it, even if it is a KO in a round.
Well tell your friend Tyson that, he's the one begging my friend to let him slaughter Joshua ASAP.
I'm happy to see all our friends make the best fights. Regardless.
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Anyone else see this all dragging out and no unifications actually happening anytime soon? Parker will end up fighting Browne, Wilder will fight Breazeale, AJ may face the Miller/ Wach winner if Pulev goes the WBA route. We'd be lucky if any of them clash next year.
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Anyone else see this all dragging out and no unifications actually happening anytime soon? Parker will end up fighting Browne, Wilder will fight Breazeale, AJ may face the Miller/ Wach winner if Pulev goes the WBA route. We'd be lucky if any of them clash next year.
That would be the worst case scenario because we would have to listen to them making excuses as to why the unification fights never happened.
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Right after AJ fought Parker was telling people he would get AJ because they don’t want a Wilder fight.(Hearn)
Notice on the call “you can’t connect one fighter to another” umm Hearn, you were the one that connected White and AJ by saying Wilder could earn an AJ fight through White. When called on it he changed his story.
The mandatories were an excuse, I explained why months ago, same number of belts, weaker opponent. Now that the mandatories are out of the way they still aren’t looking at Wilder. As I said months ago.
And in a few months after Parker, they will still not look at Wilder, just remember who keeps telling you their lies months and months before their true intentions come out.
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Alpha
Anyone else see this all dragging out and no unifications actually happening anytime soon? Parker will end up fighting Browne, Wilder will fight Breazeale, AJ may face the Miller/ Wach winner if Pulev goes the WBA route. We'd be lucky if any of them clash next year.
That would be the worst case scenario because we would have to listen to them making excuses as to why the unification fights never happened.
I agree, I just get the feeling everyone is posturing to avoid each other.
Wilder has the Breazeale, Whyte fights possibly in the pipeline
Parker has Browne, maybe the Haye/ Bellew winner to milk the belt a little more.
Is Pulev still inline for AJ if he does take the WBA shot? The Povetkin/ Hammer winner could also sneak in.
Sets up a nice 2019 sadly, lets hope I'm wrong.
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Master
Regardless of the fact, why is Hearn trying to even contemplate AJ fighting the big fat banned bastard.
It is because he will be a soft touch in comparison to an active fighter like Wilder.
You're in a tiny minority, a very, very tiny minority, that consists of nobody but you that doesn't want to see Joshua against Fury. And thinks Fury is a "soft touch" for AJ (:D)
Turning what I wrote around to suit your friend Eddie Hearn will not get away from the fact that AJ can not get back to the form he once was by summer next year.
I want to see a competitive fight and Wilder is it, even if it is a KO in a round.
Well tell your friend Tyson that, he's the one begging my friend to let him slaughter Joshua ASAP.
I'm happy to see all our friends make the best fights. Regardless.
Nobody can seriously suggest that Tyson Fury is anywhere close to being a contender? He needs a year at least for detox etc... lets not get silly about this.
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Fury will need a couple of tune ups if he were to come back. I wouldn't be suprised if he had a heart attack in one of those tune ups too. Bloated, drugged up mess that he is. Wilder should be next and it should be somewhere neutral like New York. I think Wilder will hurt him. Wilder has the will and has been looking to fight top opponents. Joshua has had it mostly handed on a plate only really stepping up against a Wlad who was basically middle aged and off of a poor, poor performance.
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There is just something I like about Wilder. He is a heavyweight that comes in in shape and throws punches and that is to be respected. I also think he comes across as passionate and hungry and I like that about him too. I sense something a bit manufactured and spoiled about Joshua. It was the same vibe I got from Amir Khan. I think it will go the same way when the careful matchmaking wears thin.
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To be fair AJ did pass his toughest test to date. Not with flying colors but it gave him a lot to learn from.
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Alpha
Anyone else see this all dragging out and no unifications actually happening anytime soon? Parker will end up fighting Browne, Wilder will fight Breazeale, AJ may face the Miller/ Wach winner if Pulev goes the WBA route. We'd be lucky if any of them clash next year.
Hearn signed Big Baby definitely with the intention of making him AJ's American debut opponent next year. I think the Wilder fight will happen in the summer (as they need an outdoor stadium in the UK).
Wilder-Breazeale is a good fight.
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Panic over about Hearn lying by not revealing his private affairs in public. He's meeting Al Haymon as well as Finkell... oh wait, nah, he probably lying, say anything to save himself from making humongous amounts of wonga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61cLUYEyZ_U&t=520s
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Until they're in the ring I won't hold my breath.
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Master
Regardless of the fact, why is Hearn trying to even contemplate AJ fighting the big fat banned bastard.
It is because he will be a soft touch in comparison to an active fighter like Wilder.
You're in a tiny minority, a very, very tiny minority, that consists of nobody but you that doesn't want to see Joshua against Fury. And thinks Fury is a "soft touch" for AJ (:D)
Turning what I wrote around to suit your friend Eddie Hearn will not get away from the fact that AJ can not get back to the form he once was by summer next year.
I want to see a competitive fight and Wilder is it, even if it is a KO in a round.
Well tell your friend Tyson that, he's the one begging my friend to let him slaughter Joshua ASAP.
I'm happy to see all our friends make the best fights. Regardless.
Nobody can seriously suggest that Tyson Fury is anywhere close to being a contender? He needs a year at least for detox etc... lets not get silly about this.
You and Master need to take action to save Tyson from himself, as he doesn't know what you lads know, he thinks he can fight in Feb/March and be on top of the world by the summer.
2018 Tyson Takeover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0YepjDcJsU
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Its easy to say lose 7 stone , doing it when your mind is all over the place is another thing.
Not convinced he will fight again.
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Fury sounds like an old man with a permanent cold and the meat sweats. 2 years out and I can see him getting Hatton'ed. You cannot let yourself go for 2 years like he has and come back and dominate a division. I seriously worry about his health being so big and out of shape. You don't see Wilder ballooning like that sweating and blowing his nose all the time. Could be a brutal stoppage if it happens.
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Just because fat Fury wants the fight does not mean it should happen. Hearn is deliberately going for that option because it is easier and gives fury less time to make a real go at beating AJ.
AJ is Eddies cash cow, he does not want to risk it. Eddie shit his pants when AJ got knocked down by Wlad.
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Dude, why don't you start a petition or something? Send it to the Board, to all the alphabet governing bodies. How about Fleet street? BBC? ITV? SKY (scratch SKY they love Tyson and Eddie), InfoWars, aiu?
Fighters can't fight and promoters can't promote unless Master and his little gang say so. Fact. We be knowing best. Fact.
Lets go champ!
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Hope the fight does not happen, it is a car crash fight all over it.
Floyd v Conor was the same hype of crap, just because it brings in money does not make it right.
See it for what it is.
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Exactly Master. Fury should wait until 2019 and earn his shot again. It's a joke if he can come back and fight for a title next year. Boycott.
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Master
Just because fat Fury wants the fight does not mean it should happen. Hearn is deliberately going for that option because it is easier and gives fury less time to make a real go at beating AJ.
AJ is Eddies cash cow, he does not want to risk it. Eddie shit his pants when AJ got knocked down by Wlad.
so come on then, tell me , when do YOU think Fury will "be ready" to beat AJ?
Hearn is a businessman, he's there to make money. It's not his fault that the biggest money fight out there is Joshua against a 25 stone coke addict! do you know who's fault it is? it's YOUR FUCKING FAULT AGAIN! and every deluded fucker that thinks that a 25 stone bi-polar binge drinking , drug user is going to find the mental discipline to
a. Lose 7 stone
b. lose it in a way that doesn't lose his strength.
c. sort his head out
d. stops taking drugs and drinking.
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Primo Carnera
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Master
Just because fat Fury wants the fight does not mean it should happen. Hearn is deliberately going for that option because it is easier and gives fury less time to make a real go at beating AJ.
AJ is Eddies cash cow, he does not want to risk it. Eddie shit his pants when AJ got knocked down by Wlad.
so come on then, tell me , when do YOU think Fury will "be ready" to beat AJ?
Hearn is a businessman, he's there to make money. It's not his fault that the biggest money fight out there is Joshua against a 25 stone coke addict! do you know who's fault it is? it's YOUR FUCKING FAULT AGAIN! and every deluded fucker that thinks that a 25 stone bi-polar binge drinking , drug user is going to find the mental discipline to
a. Lose 7 stone
b. lose it in a way that doesn't lose his strength.
c. sort his head out
d. stops taking drugs and drinking.
Given sufficient time and rehabilitation Tyson Fury could come back. 2 years minimum.
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Master
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Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
Master
Just because fat Fury wants the fight does not mean it should happen. Hearn is deliberately going for that option because it is easier and gives fury less time to make a real go at beating AJ.
AJ is Eddies cash cow, he does not want to risk it. Eddie shit his pants when AJ got knocked down by Wlad.
so come on then, tell me , when do YOU think Fury will "be ready" to beat AJ?
Hearn is a businessman, he's there to make money. It's not his fault that the biggest money fight out there is Joshua against a 25 stone coke addict! do you know who's fault it is? it's YOUR FUCKING FAULT AGAIN! and every deluded fucker that thinks that a 25 stone bi-polar binge drinking , drug user is going to find the mental discipline to
a. Lose 7 stone
b. lose it in a way that doesn't lose his strength.
c. sort his head out
d. stops taking drugs and drinking.
Given sufficient time and rehabilitation Tyson Fury
could come back. 2 years minimum.
Do you think with all his issues, he'll be able to do that ? and bear in mind that he will be 31 and won't have been a champion for 4 years.
To put it into perspective,That's longer than Ali when he came back to fight Frazier and Ali still lost, AND
1. Ali was younger
2. Ali was fitter
3. Ali didn't have any drink issues
4. Ali didn't have any drug issues
5. Ali didn't have any mental health issues.
Answers on a postcard please.:rolleyes:
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Primo Carnera
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Master
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
Master
Just because fat Fury wants the fight does not mean it should happen. Hearn is deliberately going for that option because it is easier and gives fury less time to make a real go at beating AJ.
AJ is Eddies cash cow, he does not want to risk it. Eddie shit his pants when AJ got knocked down by Wlad.
so come on then, tell me , when do YOU think Fury will "be ready" to beat AJ?
Hearn is a businessman, he's there to make money. It's not his fault that the biggest money fight out there is Joshua against a 25 stone coke addict! do you know who's fault it is? it's YOUR FUCKING FAULT AGAIN! and every deluded fucker that thinks that a 25 stone bi-polar binge drinking , drug user is going to find the mental discipline to
a. Lose 7 stone
b. lose it in a way that doesn't lose his strength.
c. sort his head out
d. stops taking drugs and drinking.
Given sufficient time and rehabilitation Tyson Fury
could come back. 2 years minimum.
Do you think with all his issues, he'll be able to do that ? and bear in mind that he will be 31 and won't have been a champion for 4 years.
To put it into perspective,That's longer than Ali when he came back to fight Frazier and Ali still lost, AND
1. Ali was younger
2. Ali was fitter
3. Ali didn't have any drink issues
4. Ali didn't have any drug issues
5. Ali didn't have any mental health issues.
Answers on a postcard please.:rolleyes:
Realistically No. I did write 'could'.
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Master
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Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
Master
Just because fat Fury wants the fight does not mean it should happen. Hearn is deliberately going for that option because it is easier and gives fury less time to make a real go at beating AJ.
AJ is Eddies cash cow, he does not want to risk it. Eddie shit his pants when AJ got knocked down by Wlad.
so come on then, tell me , when do YOU think Fury will "be ready" to beat AJ?
Hearn is a businessman, he's there to make money. It's not his fault that the biggest money fight out there is Joshua against a 25 stone coke addict! do you know who's fault it is? it's YOUR FUCKING FAULT AGAIN! and every deluded fucker that thinks that a 25 stone bi-polar binge drinking , drug user is going to find the mental discipline to
a. Lose 7 stone
b. lose it in a way that doesn't lose his strength.
c. sort his head out
d. stops taking drugs and drinking.
Given sufficient time and rehabilitation Tyson Fury
could come back. 2 years minimum.
Do you think with all his issues, he'll be able to do that ? and bear in mind that he will be 31 and won't have been a champion for 4 years.
To put it into perspective,That's longer than Ali when he came back to fight Frazier and Ali still lost, AND
1. Ali was younger
2. Ali was fitter
3. Ali didn't have any drink issues
4. Ali didn't have any drug issues
5. Ali didn't have any mental health issues.
Answers on a postcard please.:rolleyes:
Realistically No. I did write 'could'.
So if you do think it’ll happen, why do you give a flying fuck about what Hearn says? You should be happy because he’s wasting his time.
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Primo Carnera
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Master
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Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
Master
Just because fat Fury wants the fight does not mean it should happen. Hearn is deliberately going for that option because it is easier and gives fury less time to make a real go at beating AJ.
AJ is Eddies cash cow, he does not want to risk it. Eddie shit his pants when AJ got knocked down by Wlad.
so come on then, tell me , when do YOU think Fury will "be ready" to beat AJ?
Hearn is a businessman, he's there to make money. It's not his fault that the biggest money fight out there is Joshua against a 25 stone coke addict! do you know who's fault it is? it's YOUR FUCKING FAULT AGAIN! and every deluded fucker that thinks that a 25 stone bi-polar binge drinking , drug user is going to find the mental discipline to
a. Lose 7 stone
b. lose it in a way that doesn't lose his strength.
c. sort his head out
d. stops taking drugs and drinking.
Given sufficient time and rehabilitation Tyson Fury
could come back. 2 years minimum.
Do you think with all his issues, he'll be able to do that ? and bear in mind that he will be 31 and won't have been a champion for 4 years.
To put it into perspective,That's longer than Ali when he came back to fight Frazier and Ali still lost, AND
1. Ali was younger
2. Ali was fitter
3. Ali didn't have any drink issues
4. Ali didn't have any drug issues
5. Ali didn't have any mental health issues.
Answers on a postcard please.:rolleyes:
Realistically No. I did write 'could'.
So if you do think it’ll happen, why do you give a flying fuck about what Hearn says? You should be happy because he’s wasting his time.
That is my point! I do not think it should happen and it would be insane for people to want to see it. Fury has to jump through a lot of hurdles and I think they will be side stepped just so that the fight happens. That would be a travesty. The fact that AJ and Eddie are even contemplating it shows what they are about.
Fury is just a desperate attention seeker.
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To me what should happen is obvious:
1. Joshua fights Parker in Spring - three of the four titles unified by an undefeated winner (will be joshua easily IMO)
2. Winner of fight 1 (Joshua) then fights Wilder in summer with two undefeated fighters slugging it out to be undisputed heavyweight champ and the firs man to hold all 4 belts simultaneously. Mega fight, mega money.
3. Autumn 2018/ Spring 2019 winner of fight 2 (the undisputed, undefeated heavyweight champion) then takes on the lineal undefeated champion Tyson Fury. This would be the first time in history that there is a fight between two undisputed, undefeated heavyweight champions and will be even bigger than fight 2.
Obviously, Fury will need to get fit and then have a couple of tune up fights to make fight 3 happen - and he will have to win both of these easily to make this work but if he can do it then what a set of fights this would be. Rating the boxers compared to history or not it will in time go down as a legacy of great fights for the era. 4 undefeated world champions fighting each other one after the other to determine who is the best. it has never happened before and it may never happen again.
It will make money, it will make history and it will make the fans happy.
The only logical thing to do IMO.
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To me what should happen is obvious:
1. Joshua fights Parker in Spring - three of the four titles unified by an undefeated winner (will be joshua easily IMO)
2. Winner of fight 1 (Joshua) then fights Wilder in summer with two undefeated fighters slugging it out to be undisputed heavyweight champ and the firs man to hold all 4 belts simultaneously. Mega fight, mega money.
3. Autumn 2018/ Spring 2019 winner of fight 2 (the undisputed, undefeated heavyweight champion) then takes on the lineal undefeated champion Tyson Fury. This would be the first time in history that there is a fight between two undisputed, undefeated heavyweight champions and will be even bigger than fight 2.
Obviously, Fury will need to get fit and then have a couple of tune up fights to make fight 3 happen - and he will have to win both of these easily to make this work but if he can do it then what a set of fights this would be. Rating the boxers compared to history or not it will in time go down as a legacy of great fights for the era. 4 undefeated world champions fighting each other one after the other to determine who is the best. it has never happened before and it may never happen again.
It will make money, it will make history and it will make the fans happy.
The only logical thing to do IMO.
Sounds good, and I’m being devil’s advocate here, but why does Wilder have to wait till the summer?
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Primo Carnera
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PaulG
To me what should happen is obvious:
1. Joshua fights Parker in Spring - three of the four titles unified by an undefeated winner (will be joshua easily IMO)
2. Winner of fight 1 (Joshua) then fights Wilder in summer with two undefeated fighters slugging it out to be undisputed heavyweight champ and the firs man to hold all 4 belts simultaneously. Mega fight, mega money.
3. Autumn 2018/ Spring 2019 winner of fight 2 (the undisputed, undefeated heavyweight champion) then takes on the lineal undefeated champion Tyson Fury. This would be the first time in history that there is a fight between two undisputed, undefeated heavyweight champions and will be even bigger than fight 2.
Obviously, Fury will need to get fit and then have a couple of tune up fights to make fight 3 happen - and he will have to win both of these easily to make this work but if he can do it then what a set of fights this would be. Rating the boxers compared to history or not it will in time go down as a legacy of great fights for the era. 4 undefeated world champions fighting each other one after the other to determine who is the best. it has never happened before and it may never happen again.
It will make money, it will make history and it will make the fans happy.
The only logical thing to do IMO.
Sounds good, and I’m being devil’s advocate here, but why does Wilder have to wait till the summer?
Business reasons. Wilder brings less money to the table than Joshua so it makes sense to have a unification fight for all 4 titles in the USA once there are no more world titles out there. There is more money in a total unification fight than if Parker still has one of the titles.
It would work if Wilder fought Parker and Joshua and him came together with two titles each - but I doubt that a Wilder Parker fight would pay Parker enough and it would also mean Joshua (and Hearn) missing out on a pay day. Since a Joshua fight will make Parker more money than a Wilder fight then it makes logical sense to go this way round - but Parker could choose to fight Wilder if he wanted.
IMO both Joshua and Wilder spark Parker without any problems, but since Parker is also unbeaten the format works whoever wins or loses at any stage because we will still emerge with an unbeaten unified champion to fight the unbeaten lineal champion (Fury) in the final fight. There would be much less money in it all if that person was Parker though. Joshua brings the most money to the table, then Wilder then Parker. Fury is the wildcard but the setup only works if he is the last fight anyway. He is lineal champion so the others have to fight off to face him (for max money effect I am talking here - not necessarily because he deserves it).
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Re: Hearn, Wilder, Finkell, Fury one call
Yeah, but what if Parker and Wilder Both think they could beat each other and the Joshua fight will always be there, EXCEPT that because the winner has 2 titles and has unified ,’they’ll get a bigger slice of the pie?
Like I said, I’m being Devils advocate, but not everybody wants to jump to Hearn’s beat.