Dan Rafael: HBO doubleheader on March 3
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Don’t know anything about the guy Kovalev is fighting. It’s interesting that Barrera turned down the Kovalev fight but is fighting Bivol instead.
Maybe barrera thinks he has a better chance and is getting more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
He probably does think that, but I wouldn't be so sure. It's almost a case of "choose your poison!". I'm mega impressed with Bivol, but he hasn't had many fights . Barrera is a top fighter with loads of experience. The division pecking order will take shape after these fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMaybe barrera thinks he has a better chance and is getting more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
You won't get many better doubleheaders than this.
I feel the same way. Barrera I think loses to both. Kovalev has proven to be a legit top fighter but Bivol is heading that way. So Barrera is probably hoping that Bivol is more hype.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraHe probably does think that, but I wouldn't be so sure. It's almost a case of "choose your poison!". I'm mega impressed with Bivol, but he hasn't had many fights . Barrera is a top fighter with loads of experience. The division pecking order will take shape after these fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMaybe barrera thinks he has a better chance and is getting more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
You won't get many better doubleheaders than this.
Main event looks a bit of a mismatch on paper. Dont know much about Mikhalkin but lost to a really poor fighter (Clerverly flattened him) and took 3 goes to convincingly beat Ngumbu who isnt bad but nowhere near Kovalev standard. Easy night for Kov.
Think Bivol flattens Barrera too
Barrera probably hoping that he can take Bivol now before he becomes more experienced. He's taking less money to face Bivol, I guess if he wins a belt he'll be able to use it as a bargaining chip to earn more when the for a Kov fight.
Igor Mikhalkin isn't bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
He may have had an off night against Kuziemski back in 2010, but he's been on a ten-fight winning streak since then. He was the first to beat
Thomas Oosthuizen who was 27-0 at the time. The BoxRec computer has Mikhalkin ranked at #11 at light heavyweight.
Mikhalkin has earned his world title shot. Barrera turned down the fight with Kovalev, but then agreed to fight the inexperienced Bivol for less money.
Barrera claimed the kovalev fight offer wasn't for the a world title at the time and that's why he turned it down, the title was added in pretty late for that one.
Anyway Barrera has a pretty bad habit of being knocked down early on i. Fights, Ukrainian fellow put him down, Joe Smith Jr had him down in round one, valera nearly kod him in round one last time out, and even ward knocked him down fairly early..... Bivol seems pretty strong and aggressive I think this one won't last long.
But recently, he AGAIN turned down a fight with Kovalev, this time on March 3, 2018, and instead has decided to fight Bivol for less money.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
Always hesitant to jump on a hype express, as far as hbo, but have a feeling Bivol will blow Barrera out. Barrera may have let that opportunity pass him by and has been looking pretty chinny as of late.
Bivol has confirmed he's enrolled for VADA testing.
I’m excited for this card.
A mini tournament of sorts.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Hopefully networks time each other out so we don't blink and miss Wilder -Ortiz on showtime.
think about that it's not only networks these two cards are both NY same night ???. What a few miles apart?
Just three days to go.
A very good Saturday of boxing coming up, with this and the Ortiz-Wilder event.
What are the chances the main events being on at the same time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Quite possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhat are the chances the main events being on at the same time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
But I hope the two most interesting fights - Bivol-Barrera and Wilder-Ortiz - are not on at the same time.
Kovalev-Mikhakin is an okay matchup, but not as interesting as Bivol-Barrera which is a true 50-50 matchup (people tend to overrate Bivol who is talented but inexperienced, and to underestimate Barrera who is actually a very good fighter).
This in on boxnation and sky have the Wilder fight. Brook will be on earlier. A lot of boxing, going to be a late night. @Batman you up for this?
@Master yup I'm bang up for it, I'm down the villa as well so the boxing will start shortly after I get back from that, I'll have to find the time to get me a pizza as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
You will freeze your bollocks off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman@Master yup I'm bang up for it, I'm down the villa as well so the boxing will start shortly after I get back from that, I'll have to find the time to get me a pizza as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm really excited for Bivol/ Barrera, Bivol looks the goods and has some solid wins but no one on the level of Barrera. Barrera always looks vulnerable but he has fought very good opposition. I think Bivol's chin holds out longer and he eventually takes Barrera out after a firefight. Definitely expect a few knockdowns in this one.
No @Master likes frozen pizza
@MasterQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou will freeze your bollocks off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman@Master yup I'm bang up for it, I'm down the villa as well so the boxing will start shortly after I get back from that, I'll have to find the time to get me a pizza as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Proper football fan ain't I, bit of cold, nothing a nice cup of Bovril can't cure...ive already said that if the weather is like this they can get yo fuck I'm staying at home.
Sounds like a good weekend of boxing. Perfect. Hopefully some of it will be on the TV. That's why I skip fight threads a lot, it's a lottery which fights get covered. Streams are touch and go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Is it free on the TV channels you watch?Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSounds like a good weekend of boxing. Perfect. Hopefully some of it will be on the TV. That's why I skip fight threads a lot, it's a lottery which fights get covered. Streams are touch and go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Bivol has himself a nice cut dripping in 2nd. Both having moments ring center.
Barrera looks a lot bigger than Bivol, am I right in thinking he was a light heavyweight previously?
I need this to go 12
This is the first time I can remember seeing Bivol and so far he's not living up to the hype.
Is he winning though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Not scoring it but he's definitely won the last couple. Round five just started.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanIs he winning though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Fuck sake 12th round and Bivol decides to kill my bet, wanker
Bivol proved to be legit, but he also showed that he isn’t at the top level yet. I still think that Kovalev beats him pretty soundly.
I thought bivol looked very good, he jabs well, countered very well and was moving well too. Barrera is a very good opponent too, bivol looks great to me, of course Ward and kovalev are from another planet but very good from bivol, Barrera had 12% connected punches. :S
Bivol is very good and I really enjoy his style. I think he has the kind of style to go all the way in the division. Might be a bit early for Kovalev, but I can still see him winning. He has an excellent engine.
Slaughter. The guy was belled from his eyes, nose and mouth---from wherever...;D
Gvozdyk is my guy at 175 but Bivol is excellent. Lets hope they continue matching these top guys against one another.
Barrera should have taken the Kovalev fight for more money.