Wilder-Ortiz set for March 3

It looks like it's a done deal. Sources close to negotiations have told RingTV that Deontay Wilder has come to terms with Luis Ortiz to defend his WBC heavyweight title on a March 3rd Showtime card at Brooklyn's Barclays Center.

If the headline sounds vaguely familiar, it's because Wilder had previously been scheduled to take on Ortiz back in November, but a failed drug test from Ortiz would force that fight to be canceled as the fight neared. Ortiz asserted the banned substances he tested positive for were only to treat his hypertension, and the WBC eventually dropped the issue, clearing him to be reinstated.

Ortiz was once thought to be a serious threat to Wilder's title reign, but at age 38 many wonder if he's too long in the tooth to really make a run at the top of the division. Ortiz can punch, though, and it's not like Wilder's resume is all that deep — so Ortiz still might prove to be his toughest test to date.



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Don’t like this fight at all. I get it why Wilder wants it still but Ortiz shouldn’t be able to fight.

I think I'm done with Ortiz. He can fight and on pure skill level props to Wilder for finally achieving a threating opponent. All else though guy should be nowhere near a prominent stage and chance to make history. The way they, camps promoters and sanctioning body toads winked and scraped this match up into the dust pan for resale is pretty shat. Don't get me wrong someone is definitely getting ktfo but feels risk-reward heavy for Wilder.

Good on Wilder for pushing for this match. Huge balls.

As much as I'd like to see this fight, I'd rather have seen it after Joshua - Wilder.

There is a much higher chance of Wilder taking an L here than any of his other fights. Which kind of ruins the two heavyweight undefeated stars going into the ring.

To be honest, I reckon this is perfect for Wilder and he knows it. That's why he's been so hellbent on fighting Ortiz despite him failing a drugs test.
Ortiz has this big rep, but I have to say in his last couple of fights, he's looked like a fat lump of shit.

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Donald Crumpet

Wilder in 8.

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As much as I'd like to see this fight, I'd rather have seen it after Joshua - Wilder.

There is a much higher chance of Wilder taking an L here than any of his other fights. Which kind of ruins the two heavyweight undefeated stars going into the ring.

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Should Ortiz win, a fight with AJ would still be between 2 undefeated title holders. Possibly a better fight if Ortiz can get back to form.

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To be honest, I reckon this is perfect for Wilder and he knows it. That's why he's been so hellbent on fighting Ortiz despite him failing a drugs test.
Ortiz has this big rep, but I have to say in his last couple of fights, he's looked like a fat lump of shit.

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Ortiz is ancient and hasn't looked sharp, Wilder has been feasting on limited opposition. I'm going out on an early limb and thinking Ortiz pulls of the win in this one.

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As much as I'd like to see this fight, I'd rather have seen it after Joshua - Wilder.

There is a much higher chance of Wilder taking an L here than any of his other fights. Which kind of ruins the two heavyweight undefeated stars going into the ring.

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Should Ortiz win, a fight with AJ would still be between 2 undefeated title holders. Possibly a better fight if Ortiz can get back to form.

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To be honest, I reckon this is perfect for Wilder and he knows it. That's why he's been so hellbent on fighting Ortiz despite him failing a drugs test.
Ortiz has this big rep, but I have to say in his last couple of fights, he's looked like a fat lump of shit.

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Ortiz is ancient and hasn't looked sharp, Wilder has been feasting on limited opposition. I'm going out on an early limb and thinking Ortiz pulls of the win in this one.

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Yeah thats true, but Ortiz doesn't quite have the star status. As a purist I love to see anyone of these guys with AJ. But with marketing in mind, it doesn't draw nowhere near as many eyes as Wilder vs AJ.

Deontay Wilder to fight Luis Ortiz in New York on 3 March

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WBC world heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder will defend his title against Luis Ortiz on Saturday, 3 March at the Barclays Center in New York.

November's original fight was postponed after Ortiz failed a drug test.

Ortiz was fined $25,000 (£18,497) but not banned from the sport as the World Boxing Council said the Cuban took the drugs for high blood pressure.

American Wilder has won all 39 of his professional fights, all but one inside the distance. Ortiz has won all 28.

Britain's Anthony Joshua, who holds the IBF and WBA world heavyweight belts, is in talks with WBO champion Joseph Parker of New Zealand over a potential fight at Cardiff's Principality Stadium on 31 March.

No boxer has simultaneously held the WBC, IBF, WBA and WBO world heavyweight belts, and Wilder is a future target for Joshua.

When the original fight with 38-year-old Ortiz was postponed, Wilder then defended his WBC title against fellow American Bermane Stirmane and won with a first-round knockout.

On Thursday, it was announced that Wilder was ordered to do 60 hours of community service after being found guilty of misdemeanour marijuana possession after he was arrested in Alabama last June.

He received a 30-day suspended sentence and two years of probation and has to perform the community service at a local YMCA.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/42670773

Deontay Wilder to do community service for misdemeanour marijuana possession

WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder was ordered to do 60 hours of community service after being found guilty of misdemeanour marijuana possession.

The 32-year-old American - who has been linked with a 2018 title unification bout with Britain's Anthony Joshua - was arrested in Alabama last June.

He received a 30-day suspended sentence and two years of probation.

Wilder, who defends his title against Luis Ortiz on 3 March, has to perform the community service at a local YMCA.

"We respect the court's ruling. Of course we were hoping a dismissal would be granted," Wilder's lawyer, Paul Patterson, said.

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I’m just frustrated that Ortiz is even allowed to fight. The marijuana misdemeanor for Wilder is a joke.

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I’m just frustrated that Ortiz is even allowed to fight. The marijuana misdemeanor for Wilder is a joke.

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Yep, Povetkin wasn't treated as well as Ortiz has been.

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I’m just frustrated that Ortiz is even allowed to fight. The marijuana misdemeanor for Wilder is a joke.

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Yep, Povetkin wasn't treated as well as Ortiz has been.

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Pays to have connections, literally. Really Ortiz never left and arguably hasn't suffered from slap on the wrist. He kept his ranking, promotion kept his name circulating in shows and the wbc all but rolled out the red carpet making excuses. Wilder went from taking the high road and dismissing him as unworthy drug cheat to now doing staged confrontations ring center and clamoring all for a single relevant name.

Ignoring that Ortiz is an ancient, inactive drug cheat... technically/experience wise he's much better than anyone Wilder has faced.

He looked fine on his latest outing, nothing has changed, same southpaw jab/left hook, straight left hand/looping body shot. It all looks a bit repetitive, however, nobody looks good against spoilers like Allen and Scott, unless you blast them out, and Ortiz has typical Cuban syndrome, just fights to the level of his comp. He's floored/stopped everyone he's been in with.

Wilder can sparko anyone, for sure. But apart from an early punchers chance I don't see a lot more going for him. He needs to use his terrific athleticism to stop the geriatric from setting a comfortable plodding pace, however, that will leave his own mettle to be tested.

We haven't seen Wilders chin tested yet. Maybe Ortiz is that man.

Ortiz fits the mold for Wilder. He's a sitting duck shuffling in the middle of the ring looking for something to counter while Wilder circles on the outside dropping long one twos. The straight right is natural weapon against southpaws and noone has more range with it than wilder. Oritiz doesn't have fast feet, has bad head movement. In the past couple of fights, he hasn't really worked any angles that would allow him to close in on wilder, get within range and land his shots without being pulled in, smothered and leaned on. He's also not the big george type that will cross block his way through a firestorm and club you to death. Ortiz will probably look to parry the jab and loop one over the top and counter as an approach but will (like stiverne arreola and others) find himself about 4-6 inches short of the mark.

There is the odd chance ortiz lands at mid-range and maybe too his favor, Wilder has been filming too much reality tv and has slacked off, but I don't think so at this point. There's too many ways for wilder to win this cleanly and in the same sloppy fashion we've seen before. I see wilder windmilling and flailing his way through a walmart parking lot scrap in less than 6, maybe getting buzzed along the way....

Ortiz was supposedly born in 1971.

Is this really the best opponent of today's heavyweights?!

Wilder is dreaming if he thinks he could take Tyson in his prime..

I expect Wilder to win within 4 rounds.

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Ortiz was supposedly born in 1971.

Is this really the best opponent of today's heavyweights?!

Wilder is dreaming if he thinks he could take Tyson in his prime..

I expect Wilder to win within 4 rounds.

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47? He looks old but not that old surely.

I can see why wilder is on odds on, he's faster, in his prime and has great power. He "should" be able to win this comfortably on points if he uses his jab and moves. We saw ortiz struggles to cut the ring off when he fought Malik Scott.

Despite this I'm actually going to put a few quid on Ortiz. The odds are tempting. He's the better schooled fighter in a toss up fight. Wilder hasn't perfected his technique and he leaves himself wide open but his level of comp haven't been able to exploit this. Ortiz can. He's a natural counterpuncher who has the longer reach and fight ending power. Jennings wasn't hurt by wvladimir but was regularly hurt by Ortiz before getting knocked out so that tells me Ortiz can hurt deontaywhen he catches him.

if luis Ortiz was in his prime he defo wins IMO only concern now is his age.

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Ortiz was supposedly born in 1971.

Is this really the best opponent of today's heavyweights?!

Wilder is dreaming if he thinks he could take Tyson in his prime..

I expect Wilder to win within 4 rounds.

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Being born in 1971 does not make you old :-\ ...well maybe if you are boxing ;D

I was watching fox business news today and wilder was being interviewed by Stuart Varney. I didn't expect that one. Part of the interview was about reviving the heavyweight division and having these guys become household names again. Varney mentioned Wilder was getting 50 million for the fight, anyone know if that is the right figure? It sounds very high. Wilder stumbled over a few big words he tried to use but he seemed very pleasant. Say what you will Wilder is fun to watch. I'm going to miss the fight live as I'm working, this could be to quick of a fight to justify the night off. It is very good to see some movement in the HW division, hats off to Wlad but damn I was sick of him

Is Ortiz still with Matchroom?

I'm at the point with Wilder where I just want to see him hit hard square on the chin and shake it off. It's insane that for a heavyweight near 40 fights the question is still unanswered. Closest I think was Eric Molina causing him a stagger and Harold Sconiers dropping him a lifetime ago. Yesterday Ortiz was using "if I preform...." ??? but today he's trying to muster the tough talk. Fact is he will have to stand in and trade, punch between the windmill of Wilder to land his own lumber very early on and not sold that he's willing to do that.

I can't stand Wilders big mouth antics, or his terrible form inside the ring. I'm hoping Ortiz' medication can pull him through this big time.

The way Wilder acts he does come off as a little bit 'touched'. And who names themselves after a Bronze medal ;D:-X.

Derevyanchenko on undercard really being fed a no hoper. Wonder if they are prepping for a Monroe Jr fight.

Joshua should avoid the pair of them, he is squeaky clean, no shit history like these two, why should he give them a payday? Besides that Wilder is absolute hyped up shite and there are probably 3 or 4 European heavyweights who would do him.

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The way Wilder acts he does come off as a little bit 'touched'. And who names themselves after a Bronze medal ;D:-X.

Derevyanchenko on undercard really being fed a no hoper. Wonder if they are prepping for a Monroe Jr fight.

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Bronze is more PC than Brown I suppose :-X

I think they're just keeping Derevyanchenko busy after Andrade pulled out of a December fight I think and then out of the negotiations entirely.

This is the annoying part, you have Derevyanchenko, Jacobs, Charlo, Saunders and Murata all fighting roughly a month apart of each other but none are fighting each other. This tip toeing through the tulips stuff needs to stop.

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The way Wilder acts he does come off as a little bit 'touched'. And who names themselves after a Bronze medal ;D:-X.

Derevyanchenko on undercard really being fed a no hoper. Wonder if they are prepping for a Monroe Jr fight.

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Bronze is more PC than Brown I suppose :-X

I think they're just keeping Derevyanchenko busy after Andrade pulled out of a December fight I think and then out of the negotiations entirely.

This is the annoying part, you have Derevyanchenko, Jacobs, Charlo, Saunders and Murata all fighting roughly a month apart of each other but none are fighting each other. This tip toeing through the tulips stuff needs to stop.

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Very true ;D. Wilder would be laughed out of the ring naming himself after a legend. Disappointed in Jacobs just considering Sulecki is coming up again. He killed his momentum off Golovkin in a fight where he proved he belonged and arguably won, just keeping his seat warm here though. I honestly don't see Andrade doing much at 160 but is proving he is very good at pulling out of big fights.

and now have Tiny Tim stuck in my head. Thanks bud ;D.

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The way Wilder acts he does come off as a little bit 'touched'. And who names themselves after a Bronze medal ;D:-X.

Derevyanchenko on undercard really being fed a no hoper. Wonder if they are prepping for a Monroe Jr fight.

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Bronze is more PC than Brown I suppose :-X

I think they're just keeping Derevyanchenko busy after Andrade pulled out of a December fight I think and then out of the negotiations entirely.

This is the annoying part, you have Derevyanchenko, Jacobs, Charlo, Saunders and Murata all fighting roughly a month apart of each other but none are fighting each other. This tip toeing through the tulips stuff needs to stop.

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Very true ;D. Wilder would be laughed out of the ring naming himself after a legend. Disappointed in Jacobs just considering Sulecki is coming up again. He killed his momentum off Golovkin in a fight where he proved he belonged and arguably won, just keeping his seat warm here though. I honestly don't see Andrade doing much at 160 but is proving he is very good at pulling out of big fights.

and now have Tiny Tim stuck in my head. Thanks bud ;D.

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Lol sorry boss but it seemed appropriate to describe the delicacy with which these elite middleweights are dancing around each other.

It's not possible that Ortiz will win because then it will derail the AJ fight. Too much money involved to sacrifice.

I don't know what to make of Wilder. I hated him at first and then sort of was in all of his power then I hated him again and now I am wondering if he is a nut job just like Tyson Fury and that he has psyched himself into never losing ever and therefore he may really be in here for the Long Haul but I think he will go into Hollywood movies in the next two to three years after making a hundred million in boxing and retiring undefeated

Wilder weighs in only 214 lb. Very light for such a tall fighter.

Ortiz looks deadly serious.

I thought Wilder would win this easy. Maybe it will be a closer fight.

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Wilder weighs in only 214 lb. Very light for such a tall fighter.

Ortiz looks deadly serious.

I thought Wilder would win this easy. Maybe it will be a closer fight.

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Imo wilder is going in with the same mindset as the 1st Stiverne fight. He knows he can't box with a guy with Ortiz' skills so he has to use his superior speed and movement.
Ive jus watched an old interview with wilder where he was saying you have to beat Ortiz by moving and not standing with him. Judging by wilders weight it's obvious this is what he's going to do. He also mentioned the Scott fight and Ortiz inability to cut off the ring. That was two years ago too.

Ortiz was a little heavy and I can see him struggling to close the distance in this fight, However I'm gonna go for the underdog to pull off the upset. And the new....

Prediction: Wilder will win by KO/TKO in the 7th to 9th round.

Ortiz is too old, too slow, is shorter with a shorter reach, and is an easy target because he doesn't have good footwork any more. Besides, Haymon's officials including the referee will be there to help Wilder if needed. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a too-quick stoppage in favor of the American.

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Prediction: Wilder will win by KO/TKO in the 7th to 9th round.

Ortiz is too old, too slow, is shorter with a shorter reach, and is an easy target because he doesn't have good footwork any more. Besides, Haymon's officials including the referee will be there to help Wilder if needed. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a too-quick stoppage in favor of the American.

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ortiz is listed as having the longer reach

then again he is also listed as being 38 years old

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Prediction: Wilder will win by KO/TKO in the 7th to 9th round.

Ortiz is too old, too slow, is shorter with a shorter reach, and is an easy target because he doesn't have good footwork any more. Besides, Haymon's officials including the referee will be there to help Wilder if needed. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a too-quick stoppage in favor of the American.

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That sounds racist when u say American like that, this is a formal complaint

Wilder at 214 shows he wants to use a lot of movement, that's his best option. Can Ortiz cut off the ring?

It’s crazy that he is only 214. He is very tall and that is very light for that weight. He is probably about the weight of some cruiserweights. I still think he wins pretty easily. He will use his jab and Ortiz won’t throw much and Wilder will stop him in the later rounds.

I don't know guys, i think Ortiz can pull this off. He steps in and out great, and just like that right hand down the middle is dangerous for a southpaw, that left down the middle is dangerous for an orthodox fighter. IF he steps out on a wild right from Deontay, he can catch him with straight left, right hook combos all night. And it may be sneaky, but the Kong got power.

Ortiz hasn't looked impressive in his last couple of fights, Wilder getting outboxed by Washington and Szpilka has to be concerning for Wilder backers. Wilder fought a perfect fight against Stiverne the first time but we haven't seen that form since. Coming in lite shows Wilder wants to box but I think he has fallen in love with his power and his skills have suffered for it.