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Canelo fails drugs test
Statement from Golden Boy Promotions on Canelo Alvarez’s positive drug test
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As part of the voluntary testing program that Canelo Alvarez insisted on ahead of his May 5 fight, one of his results came back positive for trace levels of Clenbuterol, consistent with meat contamination that has impacted dozens of athletes in Mexico over the last years.
As Daniel Eichner, Director of SMRTL, the WADA-accredited lab that conducted the tests stated in his letter today, “These values are all within the range of what is expected from meat contamination.”
Upon receiving this information, Golden Boy immediately notified the Nevada State Athletic Commission and Gennady Golovkin’s promoter, Tom Loeffler.
As has been planned, Canelo will immediately move his training camp from Mexico to the United States and will submit to any number and variety of additional tests that VADA deems necessary ahead of and after May 5.
Added Canelo: “I am an athlete who respects the sport and this surprises me and bothers me because it had never happened to me. I will submit to all the tests that require me to clarify this embarrassing situation and I trust that at the end the truth will prevail.”
Canelo has tested clean dozens of times over the course of his previous 12 fights.
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Canelo Alvarez Tests Positive For Banned Substance Blames Mexican Cows
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Canelo Alvarez has admitted he tested positive for a performance enhancing drug -- but he's blaming the dirty test on contaminated cow meat.
The boxer was tested in advance of his upcoming May 5 rematch against Gennady Golovkin -- and says results show he had trace levels of Clenbuterol.
FYI, Clenbuterol is a banned substance often used by athletes to cut body fat while retaining muscle mass. It's banned by every major doping agency.
But Canelo says he's NOT a cheater -- just an eater.
He believes the traces of Clenbuterol are "consistent with meat contamination that has impacted dozens of athletes in Mexico over the last years."
Canelo says he will immediately move his training camp from Mexico to the United States and will submit to any number and variety of additional tests that the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association deems necessary ahead of the fight.
"I am an athlete who respects the sport and this surprises me and bothers me because it had never happened to me," Canelo says.
"I will submit to all the tests that require me to clarify this embarrassing situation and I trust that at the end the truth will prevail."
Canelo's team notes he has tested clean dozens of times over the course of his previous 12 fights.
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So that should put Canelo's career to rest. He was much hyped early on in his career, I have to say I for one feel extremely disappointed in what he failed to achieve as a boxer and hell he's only 27 right now so he could have had many many years ahead of him in the ring, but I don't think you live this kind of thing down.
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Maybe he's telling the truth...I mean if he has been eating any cows that look like this
https://i.imgur.com/N1gepT2.gif
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We'll need more infos and a bit more investigation before getting any conclusion but one thing's for sure: on paper, it doesn't look good.
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Nothing suspicious here :S.. Clenbuterol is good for losing weight but keeping muscle mass or something along those lines......
Mexico and China are pretty famous for dosing their beef with it though, I wouldn't be surprised either way if he is guilty or not
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Seems crazy to want meat with less fat.
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Ortiz said the exact same thing. Hmm....
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Canelo gets off this easy. If I was a fighter I would train in Mexico. The fight will still go ahead, they'll test Alvarez more but nothing else will show up. Vargas situation all over again.
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Look, anyone stupid enough to eat Mexican meat deserves the consequences. :o:o:o:o
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Was Tyson Fury and Povetkin in Mexico when they ate supercows?
The dodgy burgers excuse has proven to be a great defense, just recently Luis Nery (a Mexican Bantam champion) had the exact same thing, nothing happened, they don't even get suspended any more.
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Food for thought....
Clenbuterol HCl is a beta-adrenergic agonist that is used illegally in the United States and Europe to increase the leanness and protein content of cattle, swine and horses. According to studies done by the Agricultural Research Service, consumption of meat from veal calves exposed to clenbuterol can poison humans. Also recent studies by the ARS suggest that residues in edible tissues in swine exposed to clenbuterol remain high after slaughter, despite a withdrawal period from the drug. Their research has shown that even after a seven-day withdrawal period, the residues of the drug still exceeded European maximum residue levels. In conclusion, clenbuterol use in swine and other livestock was determined to be inconsistent with human consumption standards. Often the drug is used in competitions at livestock shows, but research by the Food Safety and Inspection service has found many incidences of clenbuterol use in feedlots. This phenomenon is not one of the past despite research dating back to the early nineties that resulted in the restriction of distribution and use of the drug in livestock.
Often when ingested, animals will break the clenbuterol and other similar chemical compounds into non-toxic products. However, sometimes the chemical is broken down into a toxic product that is as toxic or even more toxic than the originally ingested clenbuterol (ARS). Most of the studies of the effects of clenbuterol are done on cattle due to the considerable usage of this chemical in the livestock industry. Also, young calves are given this drug to increase leanness and protein content as they are confined and prepared for the production of veal. According to the Agricultural Research Service, after calves are exposed to clenbuterol, the chemical is distributed throughout the body in numerous organs. Many of these organs, including the liver, kidney, muscle, and fat are edible organs that will eventually end up in the meat industry. They also stated that in tissues such as muscle and kidney, the parent clenbuterol represented 40-60% of the total residue. Their research also shows that the elimination of clenbuterol in cattle is significantly slower than in other species.
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology...1/paluska.html
Clenbuterol is commonly prescribed abroad as an inhaled bronchodilator tp treat obstructive pulmonary disorders. Reported short-term side effects in humans who accidentally "overdosed" from eating clenbuterol tainted meat include:Skeletal muscle tremors, agitation, palpitations, dizziness, nausea, muscle cramps , rapid heart rate, and headache. Despite these negative side effects, clenbuterol may benefit humans when used to treat muscle wasting (in disease), forced immobilization and aging. Unfortunately no data exists for potential toxicity levels or its efficacy or long term safety. clearly clenbuterol cannot be justified or recommended as an ergogenic aid.....
Exercise Physiology: Nutrition, Energy, and Human Performance By William D. McArdle, Frank I. Katch, Victor L. Katch (p.546)
https://books.google.com/books?id=XO...20meat&f=false
Just info I found with a preliminary search. Not sure how much any benefits may transfer but i do find it interesting that many of the overdose symptoms sound similar to those identified with roid use/ rage.
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Canelo is guilty and a cheat stop beating around the bush.
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Master
Canelo is guilty and a cheat stop beating around the bush.
I don't think anybody thinks Canelo isn't guilty. But everyone knows he'll get away with it! as this shows below.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-wba-...oncent--125945
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I wonder what the response would have been if it was Golovkin? Would Golden Boy have bought the dodgy meat line?
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Memphis
I wonder what the response would have been if it was Golovkin? Would Golden Boy have bought the dodgy meat line?
They would have cancelled the fight in disgust at this abuse and found a "suitable" replacement for the ppv event.
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http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...golovkin-fight
I've only put the link in to show the letter.
Now I'm no expert on this subject, or any other for that matter but why would VADA be suggesting that this is due to contaminated meat? Surely there job is to test, analyse and publish (to the appropriate parties), right? The question of why there is an adverse result is one for the boxer and his team isn't it?
Excuse me Mr Canelo, you've got clenbuterol in your piss but it's fine, it's probably from super cow or horse, happens all the time in Mexico. What say you?
Yeah thats right, it's the urm horse cow thing. Sorry.
The whole thing appears to suggest that no one really gives a fuck about it, nothing will be done. The ambiguity needs to be removed and responsibility for what fighters are putting in their systems needs to be put on them. This is the level, if you are over you fucked up and you're going to get fucked.
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Batman
Humans are so cruel.
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Reminds me of some kids back in the day who pleaded "sesame seeds" with a straight face when busted in piss tests :-X. It really has become the wink and nod crutch lately and allows the work around. Nery had the same thing and wbc officials held his hand. It won't be the last either. Shoe was on the other foot Golovkin would be scrutinized and treated like a lab rat.
Seems like it runs the gamut in sports as tennis players, soccer players years ago and more and more mma guys are throwing up the 'tainted meat' card.
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Clen is usually used for weight loss. Ive used it before, it killed my cardio....dropped that shit immediately
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Spicoli
Reminds me of some kids back in the day who pleaded "sesame seeds" with a straight face when busted in piss tests :-X. It really has become the wink and nod crutch lately and allows the work around. Nery had the same thing and wbc officials held his hand. It won't be the last either. Shoe was on the other foot Golovkin would be scrutinized and treated like a lab rat.
Seems like it runs the gamut in sports as tennis players, soccer players years ago and more and more mma guys are throwing up the 'tainted meat' card.
Poppy seeds bruh.....poppy seeds.....Sesame seeds? What are they testing for Chinese food?
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I'm one of those people that assumes they are all cheating in some way, shape, or form. Equally, I believe that it's a professional responsibility to stay as close to the line of "cheating" without doing so.
Further, I would love to see these entities (such as BALCO, if you remember them: Barry Bonds, Sugar Shane, et al), be allowed to operate free and clear, but put under a fiduciary agreement where the athletes can sue for damages, (much like CPA agreements).
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Spicoli
Reminds me of some kids back in the day who pleaded "sesame seeds" with a straight face when busted in piss tests :-X. It really has become the wink and nod crutch lately and allows the work around. Nery had the same thing and wbc officials held his hand. It won't be the last either. Shoe was on the other foot Golovkin would be scrutinized and treated like a lab rat.
Seems like it runs the gamut in sports as tennis players, soccer players years ago and more and more mma guys are throwing up the 'tainted meat' card.
The federal government increased the threshold of opiates a while ago as it was possible to test positive from poppy seeds. We aren't tested for the drug but for the metabolites of a drug. I don't trust all tests, some of the instant tests will pop for certain things and be cleared in confirmation tests. A lab tech in Massachusetts was arrested for reporting hundreds of court ordered urine tests positive when they were not. If it's true this beef causes the metabolites of this drug I'd like to know how many of the Mexican population (non athletes) test for this thing and if it's at levels matching canelos. I'm not sticking up for him just want the entire picture
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I don't believe a word of Team Canelos contaminate meat story, Fucks sake the guys an elite fighter and professional athlete and i don't see that many more Mexican fighters suffering the same fate?
Apparently Canelo is even on record (according to Sky Sports Spencer Oliver)saying that he doesn't even eat that much meat in his diet.
Take a look at Canelos physical transformation over the past few years and this all looks like he's guilty as fuck.
This is not Tennis where using PEDs might make your backhand more powerful, this is a brutal combat sport where having extra strength advantages can easily result in the death of your opponent.
https://i1.wp.com/www.boxingnewsandv...pg?w=729&ssl=1
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Those pictures would be evidence of a steroid body if the growth was over 3-6 months, not years. That kind of growth of years is very, very possible. With world class trainers, nutritionists, (great genetics)--you could do that in year pretty easily.
But did he cheat? They all are IMO.
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smashup
I don't believe a word of Team Canelos contaminate meat story, Fucks sake the guys an elite fighter and professional athlete and i don't see that many more Mexican fighters suffering the same fate?
Apparently Canelo is even on record (according to Sky Sports Spencer Oliver)saying that he doesn't even eat that much meat in his diet.
Take a look at Canelos physical transformation over the past few years and this all looks like he's guilty as fuck.
This is not Tennis where using PEDs might make your backhand more powerful, this is a brutal combat sport where having extra strength advantages can easily result in the death of your opponent.
https://i1.wp.com/www.boxingnewsandv...pg?w=729&ssl=1
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hfahrenheit
Those pictures would be evidence of a steroid body if the growth was over 3-6 months, not years. That kind of growth of years is very, very possible. With world class trainers, nutritionists, (great genetics)--you could do that in year pretty easily.
But did he cheat? They all are IMO.
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Originally Posted by
smashup
I don't believe a word of Team Canelos contaminate meat story, Fucks sake the guys an elite fighter and professional athlete and i don't see that many more Mexican fighters suffering the same fate?
Apparently Canelo is even on record (according to Sky Sports Spencer Oliver)saying that he doesn't even eat that much meat in his diet.
Take a look at Canelos physical transformation over the past few years and this all looks like he's guilty as fuck.
This is not Tennis where using PEDs might make your backhand more powerful, this is a brutal combat sport where having extra strength advantages can easily result in the death of your opponent.
https://i1.wp.com/www.boxingnewsandv...pg?w=729&ssl=1
I don't know, those pics are a bit Barry bonds mark McGuire like, it certainly is supicous
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After multiple tests of Mexican fighters failing, wouldn’t it be time to provide evidence that the meat does create a positive test? It would seem pretty easy to do. Also, after multiple circumstances like this, wouldn’t a nutritionist know that if you were living in Mexico you would need to be careful the kind of meat you ate? And wouldn’t it be discussed before the testing is official to claim that certain meats can give you a positive test?
I mean this is a high profile fight. I don’t buy for a second that things wouldn’t have been figured out before this all occurred.
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I have no doubt had Golovkin tested dirty the fight would be off.
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walrus
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Reminds me of some kids back in the day who pleaded "sesame seeds" with a straight face when busted in piss tests :-X. It really has become the wink and nod crutch lately and allows the work around. Nery had the same thing and wbc officials held his hand. It won't be the last either. Shoe was on the other foot Golovkin would be scrutinized and treated like a lab rat.
Seems like it runs the gamut in sports as tennis players, soccer players years ago and more and more mma guys are throwing up the 'tainted meat' card.
The federal government increased the threshold of opiates a while ago as it was possible to test positive from poppy seeds. We aren't tested for the drug but for the metabolites of a drug. I don't trust all tests, some of the instant tests will pop for certain things and be cleared in confirmation tests. A lab tech in Massachusetts was arrested for reporting hundreds of court ordered urine tests positive when they were not. If it's true this beef causes the metabolites of this drug I'd like to know how many of the Mexican population (non athletes) test for this thing and if it's at levels matching canelos. I'm not sticking up for him just want the entire picture
Didn't help us those dumb kids in 87 who knew they were dirty and given bad advice ;D. Nothing like trying to legitimize bogus field tests to run up the docket and that tech probably had a push. I don't trust instant tests and good point about confirmations after the fact. We've come along way from 'pee in this bottle'. Do they use hair follicle tests for athletes? I don't doubt that chemicals, broad term, are used in farm animals for purpose of sale and even more so less regulated outside of the U.S and can see contamination happening. Local population certainly runs the risk also. But it's not like these million dollar athletes are walking open air markets clamoring for the freshest same day cuts or limited in menu options. At some point they need to except testing dirty as testing dirty, who cares where a guy ate. The silence of promoters and commissions to actually avoid it happening and instead make excuses or near justifications yells volumes and guarantees it'll continue.
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Alpha
I have no doubt had Golovkin tested dirty the fight would be off.
For sure. It would have been an easy out. They are forced into this rematch because they got a gift draw and know that if they don’t give a rematch then they can never be taken seriously again.
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Anyone else hear the talk about Canelo loading his wraps? It just keeps getting worse for Alvarez.
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Alpha
Anyone else hear the talk about Canelo loading his wraps? It just keeps getting worse for Alvarez.
What next will come out that he has titanium in his head, paid the judges, blackmailing the ref?
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Originally Posted by
hfahrenheit
Those pictures would be evidence of a steroid body if the growth was over 3-6 months, not years. That kind of growth of years is very, very possible. With world class trainers, nutritionists, (great genetics)--
you could do that in year pretty easily.
But did he cheat? They all are IMO.
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Originally Posted by
smashup
I don't believe a word of Team Canelos contaminate meat story, Fucks sake the guys an elite fighter and professional athlete and i don't see that many more Mexican fighters suffering the same fate?
Apparently Canelo is even on record (according to Sky Sports Spencer Oliver)saying that he doesn't even eat that much meat in his diet.
Take a look at Canelos physical transformation over the past few years and this all looks like he's guilty as fuck.
This is not Tennis where using PEDs might make your backhand more powerful, this is a brutal combat sport where having extra strength advantages can easily result in the death of your opponent.
https://i1.wp.com/www.boxingnewsandv...pg?w=729&ssl=1
Of course you could, anyone could if they were an average Joe, but a fighter going up from Welterweight to Middleweight?
Not having it ;)
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Alpha
Anyone else hear the talk about Canelo loading his wraps? It just keeps getting worse for Alvarez.
Sanchez kicked off over the wrapping of Canelos hands for the first fight, accusing them of stacking. From what I can gather stacking is gauze, then tape, then gauze, then tape....and so on. I think he was just busting balls and is running with it again now that the 'tainted meat' story gives it a little more traction and puts a bit more pressure on.
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All of a sudden there's a BIG question mark hanging over Canelo, he seems to like any advantage he can get (his weight advantages in fights are criminal) and i'm now 100% convinced he's just a cheating cunt all round!
Let us consider Alvarez’s rehydration rates for bouts where his fight night weight was recorded (Alvarez has avoided stepping on HBO’s unofficial scales in his more recent bouts). In his 2013 bout with Austin Trout set at a catch-weight of 153.5 lbs. Alvarez made weight and then ballooned up to a reported 172 lbs. on fight night.
When Alvarez fought Alfredo Angulo at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas in March, 2014 the match was set at a catch-weight of 155 lbs. Alvarez again made weight and then rehydrated to a reported 174 lbs. on the night of the fight.
The trend is clear: Alvarez weighs in at a sub-middleweight level and then rehydrates to a near-light heavyweight mass before stepping in the ring.
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https://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/6472-canelo-alvarez-weight-size-power-rehydration
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Alpha
Anyone else hear the talk about Canelo loading his wraps? It just keeps getting worse for Alvarez.
What next will come out that he has titanium in his head, paid the judges, blackmailing the ref?
I'm not sure about blackmailing the ref, I have some doubts regarding the titanium thing as well but for the rest ...
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Alpha
Anyone else hear the talk about Canelo loading his wraps? It just keeps getting worse for Alvarez.
Haven’t heard about it. That’s awful if true. Too much pressure to be the main Mexican fighter in the world. Especially for not being that great.
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Alpha
Anyone else hear the talk about Canelo loading his wraps? It just keeps getting worse for Alvarez.
Haven’t heard about it. That’s awful if true. Too much pressure to be the main Mexican fighter in the world. Especially for not being that great.
Still no grounds to be a cheating cunt and potentially kill an opponent.
Titofan has always said that he has never made the weight legally.
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smashup
I don't believe a word of Team Canelos contaminate meat story, Fucks sake the guys an elite fighter and professional athlete and i don't see that many more Mexican fighters suffering the same fate?
Apparently Canelo is even on record (according to Sky Sports Spencer Oliver)saying that he doesn't even eat that much meat in his diet.
Take a look at Canelos physical transformation over the past few years and this all looks like he's guilty as fuck.
This is not Tennis where using PEDs might make your backhand more powerful, this is a brutal combat sport where having extra strength advantages can easily result in the death of your opponent.
https://i1.wp.com/www.boxingnewsandv...pg?w=729&ssl=1
What were the dates from these pics? You have to provide a context for comparison.