Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
Five reasons why Joseph Parker will be a better win for Anthony Joshua than Luis Ortiz was for Deontay Wilder:
1. Parker doesn't suffer from health conditions such as high blood pressure
2. Parker is not overweight, he's in excellent physical condition, and will not gas after a few rounds
3. Parker is in his prime at age 26, Ortiz is an old man
4. Parker is faster than Ortiz
5. Parker has a world title and several successful title defenses (including 2 wins against undefeated prime opponents)
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
5. Yeah kinda got to give you that one but the rest, Dillian Whyte was all those things, fuck me Gary Cornish is all those things.
Ortiz might be 50 years old, but he's still probably the most skilled heavy out there. He just doesn't have the legs or engine to get the job done. Maybe that little postponement was the difference between Wilder scraping through round 7 and not.
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I think they are about on par with one another the difference will be how AJ wins, IF AJ wins.
Wilder had trouble vs Ortiz, Ortiz let him off the hook...maybe that damages Wilder going forward, maybe it makes him tougher to beat as it boosts his confidence/aura of invincibility. Deontay certainly didn't fight the perfect fight, but he won and I think sometimes fighters have to deal with an off night and the greats come through as winners more often than not. Not calling Deontay a great just yet, but he's done awfully well for himself in his career. I and a lot of others thought he was brought along too slowly, but he seems to have been brought along just right.
Like with Ortiz Parker has a lot of question marks about him. How tough is he really? How hard does he punch? How good is his chin? How is his stamina? If AJ dispatches him in 2 rounds people might think Parker is just some built up tomato can. If Parker lasts the distance maybe they question AJ's power or killer instinct. If Parker wins, then well all hell breaks loose in terms of questions being asked....could Parker be the real deal?
I think Parker is a good solid fighter, I think he's a bit limited in handspeed and defense but the Kiwi boxers/martial artists of recent memory have been tough as nails and very strong so I expect more of that from Parker. I will say Parker is a better true boxer than David Tua ever was, he is able to set up his punches rather than relying on catching his opponent unawares.
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
Uh huh đ
Everyone changes their story once a fighter wins a fight.
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
Well I was really unimpressed with Parker when he fought against Andy Ruiz. Also it appears to me that Parker really doesn't have much punching power with his last 3 fights going the distance. At least we know Ortiz can hit. Also he was south paw which can be awkward for some people.
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
Wlad is a better win for AJ than Ortiz was for Wilder.
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
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Master
Wlad is a better win for AJ than Ortiz was for Wilder.
Agreed but Ortiz is for sure a better fighter than Parker. Ortiz was always seen as a threat for any HW because of his skills. Parker was always seen as the weak title holder that could easily be beaten.
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
What a dumb fucking thread/post... Ortiz doesnât suffer from being a mediocre boxer, that counts for a lot more than whatever Parkerâs strengths are.
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
Parker holds a title, so whatever that's worth these days it automatically makes it a better win in that sense. Ortiz has skills but no one believes he's 38. The thing I will give Parker credit for is being clean :-X
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
If a guy can avoid nearly getting ko'd and score impressive ko it usually means they win big. It's been used more negative in case of AJ but with Wilder I've heard people talking like he stormed the beach because he simply survived a test. Consistency and breaking opponent down ending in unification is a far better win for a fighter.
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgCepMEDVZe/?hl=en
How slim does Joshua look here? Could be the camera, angle, light, but he looks 'skinny'
I dont have a problem with Parker, he's a decent bloke who tries really hard but I dont see him having any chance whatsoever. Assuming Joshua doesnt completely blow up or loose a leg mid fight. I just dont see what Parker does that causes Joshua a problem.
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Memphis
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgCepMEDVZe/?hl=en
How slim does Joshua look here? Could be the camera, angle, light, but he looks 'skinny'
I dont have a problem with Parker, he's a decent bloke who tries really hard but I dont see him having any chance whatsoever. Assuming Joshua doesnt completely blow up or loose a leg mid fight. I just dont see what Parker does that causes Joshua a problem.
I saw that vid last night. I wasnât bothered about his weight, all I could think was the last time somebody posted hand speed like that on social media, they got schooled by George Groves.
Seriously, what a meaningless load of bollocks that is. Tell me the last time anyone threw a combination like that in a ring?
If I was his coach, Iâd tell him to stop fucking about and get back to the serious business of training for a fight!
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
How foolish are you going to look when he lands that exact combo on Parker? ;D
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
Joshua will become the first in many years to unify ALL the heavyweight titles, if Wilder fights him.
Although I think Wilder and his management are very afraid of Joshua, the potential money is so much that eventually they'll probably the fight and cash out.
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Memphis
How foolish are you going to look when he lands that exact combo on Parker? ;D
I know.;D I can see the report now. âIn the 7th Round, Parker was beginning to press , and it appeared like he was getting the upper hand , but in the space of 10 seconds, the whole fight was turned on his head as Joshua unleashed a 124 punch combination consisting completely of uppercuts!
The fastest hands that have ever been seen in a ring from a heavyweight, making Muhammad Ali look like George Foreman by comparison!â ;D;D
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
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Freedom
Joshua will become the first in many years to unify ALL the heavyweight titles, if Wilder fights him.
Although I think Wilder and his management are very afraid of Joshua, the potential money is so much that eventually they'll probably the fight and cash out.
They WILL eventually fight, barring any bumps along the way with one getting beat, too much potential money on the line and Wilder will always carry that punchers chance. So he will definitely roll the dice.
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Freedom
Joshua will become the first in many years to unify ALL the heavyweight titles, if Wilder fights him.
Although I think Wilder and his management are very afraid of Joshua, the potential money is so much that eventually they'll probably the fight and cash out.
Afraid? Wilder has been calling out AJ forever. Whether or not he wins doesnât matter. Nothing Wilder has done makes me believe he is afraid.
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
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Freedom
Joshua will become the first in many years to unify ALL the heavyweight titles, if Wilder fights him.
Although I think Wilder and his management are very afraid of Joshua, the potential money is so much that eventually they'll probably the fight and cash out.
Afraid? Wilder has been calling out AJ forever. Whether or not he wins doesnât matter. Nothing Wilder has done makes me believe he is afraid.
Wilder talks a lot, but it's just talk. He priced himself out against Joshua, and demanded the fight be in the USA where it would make less money, which means he had no intentions of fighting him. Joshua's management offer four times Wilder's highest payday to date, but Wilder demanded more.
He's carefully avoided all the decent heavyweights for years.
On the way up a few years, he was matched against guys he could easily KO, usually much smaller men. He fought old former middleweights and light heavyweights who became fat with middle age. Even Kevin Johnson said Wilder refused to fight him, and instead chose a chinny journeyman at the time! Wilder's WBC title defenses continue the pattern: he fought poor completely shot Arreola, old Stiverne, old overweight Ortiz (whom he ducked 3 years ago and again in 2017 before finally getting up the courage to fight the old man this year) and chinny Szpilka while avoiding decent prime guys like Takem, Parker, Whyte, Miller, and Povetkin, as well as physically fit older fighters like Klitschko and Mansour.
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Freedom
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powerpuncher
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Freedom
Joshua will become the first in many years to unify ALL the heavyweight titles, if Wilder fights him.
Although I think Wilder and his management are very afraid of Joshua, the potential money is so much that eventually they'll probably the fight and cash out.
Afraid? Wilder has been calling out AJ forever. Whether or not he wins doesnât matter. Nothing Wilder has done makes me believe he is afraid.
Wilder talks a lot, but it's just talk. He priced himself out against Joshua, and demanded the fight be in the USA where it would make less money, which means he had no intentions of fighting him. Joshua's management offer four times Wilder's highest payday to date, but Wilder demanded more.
He's carefully avoided all the decent heavyweights for years.
On the way up a few years, he was matched against guys he could easily KO, usually much smaller men. He fought old
former middleweights and light heavyweights who became fat with middle age. Even Kevin Johnson said Wilder refused to fight him, and instead chose a chinny journeyman at the time! Wilder's WBC title defenses continue the pattern: he fought poor completely shot Arreola, old Stiverne, old overweight Ortiz (whom he ducked 3 years ago and again in 2017 before finally getting up the courage to fight the old man this year) and chinny Szpilka while avoiding decent prime guys like Takem, Parker, Whyte, Miller, and Povetkin, as well as physically fit older fighters like Klitschko and Mansour.
Haha. Wilder did fight very weak competition his first however many years but the past few years he has fought decent competition (for HW standards). Stiverne, Arreola, Szpilka, and Ortiz are basically the best the division has had to offer for the past decade. AJ hasnât fought better competition if you take out the Wlad fight. Takam and Whyte are on the same level as Stiverne and Arreola. None are good.
Just admit that the division is awful and neither has fought good competition.
Re: Parker will be a better win for Joshua then Ortiz was for Wilder
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ninjaspy3
Well I was really unimpressed with Parker when he fought against Andy Ruiz. Also it appears to me that Parker really doesn't have much punching power with his last 3 fights going the distance. At least we know Ortiz can hit. Also he was south paw which can be awkward for some people.
Parker got a hometown decision in that fight. Ruiz Jr. won that to me.
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Freedom
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powerpuncher
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Freedom
Joshua will become the first in many years to unify ALL the heavyweight titles, if Wilder fights him.
Although I think Wilder and his management are very afraid of Joshua, the potential money is so much that eventually they'll probably the fight and cash out.
Afraid? Wilder has been calling out AJ forever. Whether or not he wins doesnât matter. Nothing Wilder has done makes me believe he is afraid.
Wilder talks a lot, but it's just talk. He priced himself out against Joshua, and demanded the fight be in the USA where it would make less money, which means he had no intentions of fighting him. Joshua's management offer four times Wilder's highest payday to date, but Wilder demanded more.
He's carefully avoided all the decent heavyweights for years.
On the way up a few years, he was matched against guys he could easily KO, usually much smaller men. He fought old
former middleweights and light heavyweights who became fat with middle age. Even Kevin Johnson said Wilder refused to fight him, and instead chose a chinny journeyman at the time! Wilder's WBC title defenses continue the pattern: he fought poor completely shot Arreola, old Stiverne, old overweight Ortiz (whom he ducked 3 years ago and again in 2017 before finally getting up the courage to fight the old man this year) and chinny Szpilka while avoiding decent prime guys like Takem, Parker, Whyte, Miller, and Povetkin, as well as physically fit older fighters like Klitschko and Mansour.
Câmon man, Iâve seen your name on here far too many times to believe you are this naive to the business. This is boxing deception 101. You have to know this. Big fights donât go on a number, they go on a percentage. You have to remember the years of PAC/Mayweather BS over percentages. Because they go on percentages.
Wilder would be a dolt to accept a career high payday and get robbed as it sold big.
Everyone knows this, you have to know this. Donât be a part of the deception. Or donât be so darned gullable. I canât believe you are this gullable. So I really mean donât be part of the deception.
These are grown ass men getting rich, they donât need people lying for them.(I get that the facts are true but itâs still a lie if itâs obviously BS and itâs obviously BS)
