2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

Takam - Poor
Parker - Struggled to impose himself against a small and mobile fighter

Wilders the same size/reach, fluid, slick and can bang

Huge AJ fan here being a Londoner but i see Wilder being way too lively for him and Knocking him out....

Don't see anything from Josh that tells me he's got another level to go to.... has the Hype got to him?

For me a "Wlad Fit" Tyson Fury toys with the pair of them ;)

I think Wilder smokes both Joshua and Fury. Joshua early. Fury late.

I can see how it was tom-tit for anyone expecting brutal violence but from a boxing/career view it was an impressive, improved performance.

He showed tons of maturity (the Wlad fight has made a big impression), no leaving himself open by rushing-in looking for combos, no punching himself out, instead he employed a consistent Lennox-esque jab throughout (bet the stats are above average for a heavyweight), controlled the pace/distance and never gave Parker a sniff (Tyson Fury gets called a master boxer for that stuff ;)).

I saw people complaining about the scores. What? Parker didn't (couldn't) do eff-all, he "won" a couple of sympathy rounds at best. His corner were delighted at the end that he went the distance, sparring with Malik Scott all camp became apparent.

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I can see how it was tom-tit for anyone expecting brutal violence but from a boxing/career view it was an impressive, improved performance.

He showed tons of maturity (the Wlad fight has made a big impression), no leaving himself open by rushing-in looking for combos, no punching himself out, instead he employed a consistent Lennox-esque jab throughout (bet the stats are above average for a heavyweight), controlled the pace/distance and never gave Parker a sniff (Tyson Fury gets called a master boxer for that stuff ;)).

I saw people complaining about the scores. What? Parker didn't (couldn't) do eff-all, he "won" a couple of sympathy rounds at best. His corner were delighted at the end that he went the distance, sparring with Malik Scott all camp became apparent.

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I agree with the above.

Such a shame these comments are in the minority.

Wlad dominated the divison with his jab and AJ is showing another patient side to him..boring but well done.

AJ has not been wobbled like Wilder has from light punchers.

AJ has far better skills than Wilder.

Remember fans were booing Wilder against Ortiz. Selective memory from fans.

Is it me or just because the Ortiz fight ended in KO people forgot it was a "shit performance" by Wilder? Wilder looked far worse in his fight. I don't think Joshua deserves the slack he is getting for this fight. Parker is an undefeated champion, and a slick fighter who showed good skill but didn't want to engage in exchanges, for obvious reasons. I was most impressed with AJ's footwork in this fight, he is able to evade punches using only his feet, stepping in out, which is unual for a guy his size. If he fights a disciplined fight like this against Wilder he will take him.

People also forget that Widler never fought someone who can hit like AJ, While Aj has fought Wlad, who also has a monstrous right hand, which AJ took well.

I will preface by saying anything can happen in a heavyweight fight, especially with two punchers in the ring, but if i had to bet i'd say AJ becomes undisputed when they meet.

Parker for all his talk fought scared , he always had not getting hit hard on his mind when he threw punches.
118 - 110 against a young unbeaten fighter is hardly a bad performance , Joshua has had 21 fights most have been KO'S so you have to learn on your feet.
Wilder has a punchers chance against anyone.

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AJ has not been wobbled like Wilder has from light punchers.

AJ has far better skills than Wilder.

Remember fans were booing Wilder against Ortiz. Selective memory from fans.

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yeah it works both ways. Nobody can predict this fight with any certainty. Two chin years bangers. Anyone can win

Can anyone enlighten me on why people think Fury toys with AJ or even Wilder? It's all I have heard since last night. Are people actually willing to ignore 90% of Fury's career where he has looked like another plodding heavyweight.

As for AJ. He looked good last night. Boxed really well. Jabbed well. I actually think the referee hindered him by not letting him fight on the inside. He was letting some good shots go that missed by inches on the rare occasions he was able to throw.

I still think Wilder troubles him although I think the fight would be much more edgy than people think. I don't think it would be exciting. It would be a lot of posturing before probably ending in explosive fashion. Not sure who I'd pick at this stage. AJ is the much better boxer and probably has similar power but Wilder is just so unpredictable in his movements and hits so hard that you're only a second away from disaster against him.

AJ just used his jab to win Parker seemed to be worried about getting hit this fight promised
a lot but delivered very little in entertainment value.
Remember its boxing I was disappointed with the fight the right guy won as Wilder goes still fancy AJ to win.

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Can anyone enlighten me on why people think Fury toys with AJ or even Wilder? It's all I have heard since last night. Are people actually willing to ignore 90% of Fury's career where he has looked like another plodding heavyweight.

As for AJ. He looked good last night. Boxed really well. Jabbed well. I actually think the referee hindered him by not letting him fight on the inside. He was letting some good shots go that missed by inches on the rare occasions he was able to throw.

I still think Wilder troubles him although I think the fight would be much more edgy than people think. I don't think it would be exciting. It would be a lot of posturing before probably ending in explosive fashion. Not sure who I'd pick at this stage. AJ is the much better boxer and probably has similar power but Wilder is just so unpredictable in his movements and hits so hard that you're only a second away from disaster against him.

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Exactly!

I've never understood the Fury bandwagon. Other than him being the one to end Wlad's long reign, he's a one-hit wonder. The Wlad fight was the worst HW title fight in the history of boxing... and he's done nothing since, but implode. Talks a lot, like Haye, but little else. Frankly, I think he gets soundly beaten by both AJ and Wilder. For those who don't remember, Wlad threw about 4 punches per round against Fury. Don't think that would happen against either of the current champs.

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Can anyone enlighten me on why people think Fury toys with AJ or even Wilder? It's all I have heard since last night. Are people actually willing to ignore 90% of Fury's career where he has looked like another plodding heavyweight.

As for AJ. He looked good last night. Boxed really well. Jabbed well. I actually think the referee hindered him by not letting him fight on the inside. He was letting some good shots go that missed by inches on the rare occasions he was able to throw.

I still think Wilder troubles him although I think the fight would be much more edgy than people think. I don't think it would be exciting. It would be a lot of posturing before probably ending in explosive fashion. Not sure who I'd pick at this stage. AJ is the much better boxer and probably has similar power but Wilder is just so unpredictable in his movements and hits so hard that you're only a second away from disaster against him.

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Exactly!

I've never understood the Fury bandwagon. Other than him being the one to end Wlad's long reign, he's a one-hit wonder. The Wlad fight was the worst HW title fight in the history of boxing... and he's done nothing since, but implode. Talks a lot, like Haye, but little else. Frankly, I think he gets soundly beaten by both AJ and Wilder. For those who don't remember, Wlad threw about 4 punches per round against Fury. Don't think that would happen against either of the current champs.

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Fury became extremely overrated after the Wlad win. AJ is the same thing I believe. Wlad was never that great but just a product of an awful division and he was old in those fights.

I don’t see why just this fight proves anything about AJ. He looked about as impressive in this fight as he has in the rest of his fights. He isn’t a comes forward fighter really. Sure, against stiffs he will, but he has shown that he is more of a boxer. I’m not saying AJ is awful but I’m not under some delusion that he is great by any means. Maybe he will eventually prove me wrong.

My mrs was moaning after the fight saying it was shite and that AJ wasn’t very good etc... she knows FA and only watches AJ because he’s “fit as fk and I bet he has a right big cock” etc ...:rolleyes:

i said after that was a quality performance from AJ, Joseph came to lose on points and not get knocked out, all AJ could do was box him and use his jab. As folks have mentioned he’s a different animal post Wlad. Almost like he wants to be the new WLad, establish his jab, not get drawn in, defend his belts at home and make it hard for people to come to the uk and beat him. I’m ok with that, good luck to him

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My mrs was moaning after the fight saying it was shite and that AJ wasn’t very good etc... she knows FA and only watches AJ because he’s “fit as fk and I bet he has a right big cock” etc ...:rolleyes:

i said after that was a quality performance from AJ, Joseph came to lose on points and not get knocked out, all AJ could do was box him and use his jab. As folks have mentioned he’s a different animal post Wlad. Almost like he wants to be the new WLad, establish his jab, not get drawn in, defend his belts at home and make it hard for people to come to the uk and beat him. I’m ok with that, good luck to him

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You will fit in on here like a glove.:newdb: :)

AJ is not shit after 2 dull performances he was not pushed in those 2 fights and remember people he won,!!!! Fury did not look great beating Wlad but AJ did ;)
Nobody looks the dogs in every single fight chaps it's boxing end of the day the most important thing is too win Hopkins would win ugly with most of his fights but he was regarded as a master craftsman so just think long and hard.;)

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AJ is not shit after 2 dull performances he was not pushed in those 2 fights and remember people he won,!!!! Fury did not look great beating Wlad but AJ did ;)
Nobody looks the dogs in every single fight chaps it's boxing end of the day the most important thing is too win Hopkins would win ugly with most of his fights but he was regarded as a master craftsman so just think long and hard.;)

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You get confused with being impressive and being boring. Fury was impressive beating Wlad because he just shut him out easily. Doesn’t matter that it was boring. AJ beating Parker wasn’t impressive. He won the fight but didn’t look great doing it.

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AJ is not shit after 2 dull performances he was not pushed in those 2 fights and remember people he won,!!!! Fury did not look great beating Wlad but AJ did ;)
Nobody looks the dogs in every single fight chaps it's boxing end of the day the most important thing is too win Hopkins would win ugly with most of his fights but he was regarded as a master craftsman so just think long and hard.;)

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You get confused with being impressive and being boring. Fury was impressive beating Wlad because he just shut him out easily. Doesn’t matter that it was boring. AJ beating Parker wasn’t impressive. He won the fight but didn’t look great doing it.

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Never confused mate I have seen thousands of fights through the years stating facts some win ugly some impressive it's how it is,!!!! it was boring but AJ won it was not a classic.
Many fights I have waited for inantisapasion that they were going to be classics but turned out to be stinkers or simply shit.
Many fights I have watched thinking I have wasted 36 minutes of my life but I am a fan my son has boxed I help train him boxing is a great sport and I love it.
Anybody who gets in that ring should have respect the average Joe would be on his back in a pool of blood and snot in under a minute.;)

Despite Joshua's limitations becoming evident in yesterday's fight, I'd still pick him to defeat Wilder (with fair officiating).

But I do have some doubts about it now.

Wilder has even longer arms than Joshua. Can Joshua defend himself against a man Wilder's size? Wilder is a poor boxer, but he does have world-class KO power with his windmill punches. And where will the fight take place? The referee could make a difference in a close fight, and now we've seen both boxers with a corrupt referee helping them.

It's an interesting match-up. We know one thing for certain: someone will be knocked out.

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I've never understood the Fury bandwagon. Other than him being the one to end Wlad's long reign, he's a one-hit wonder. The Wlad fight was the worst HW title fight in the history of boxing... and he's done nothing since, but implode. Talks a lot, like Haye, but little else. Frankly, I think he gets soundly beaten by both AJ and Wilder. For those who don't remember, Wlad threw about 4 punches per round against Fury. Don't think that would happen against either of the current champs.

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For me, a contender for worst heavyweight title fight in history would be AJ vs Charles Martin

Does Wilder know how to maintain distance and move around?

If he can do that and land keeping Joshuas chances of getting close to minimum, then has has a chance.

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Does Wilder know how to maintain distance and move around?

If he can do that and land keeping Joshuas chances of getting close to minimum, then has has a chance.

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Wilder has the height and speed to outbox AJ for parts of the fight and certainly has the power to keep AJ respectful. Wilder has boxing skills to cause AJ problems but think as soon as AJ lands he will knock out Wilder cold.

Won't say it was shat but he definitely acted disinterested or frustrated in spots. Fact that he couldn't keep Parker pinned and cut off a ring is a red flag concerning any Wilder fight, Parker wasn't exactly missing him by a mile when he decided to sit down and time off the jab. He didn't gas and owned late rounds with better jab down stretch but when on his heels and facing quick shifts he was lumbering a bit. If he has that approach with Wilder I can see him secondary in hand speed and somewhat predictable but for sure he has a deeper tool box, composure and sturdier foundation than the one trick pony that is Wilder. What makes Wilder dangerous as much as flawed is his recklessness and unpredictability. May have just been a case of the ol 'win today and look great tomorrow'. I saw it about 116-112 closer than the absurd 119-109 but clearly Joshua wide winner.

You have a point about the unorthodox nature of Wilder, that would cause the conventional AJ a few sleepless nights.

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AJ is not shit after 2 dull performances he was not pushed in those 2 fights and remember people he won,!!!! Fury did not look great beating Wlad but AJ did ;)
Nobody looks the dogs in every single fight chaps it's boxing end of the day the most important thing is too win Hopkins would win ugly with most of his fights but he was regarded as a master craftsman so just think long and hard.;)

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You get confused with being impressive and being boring. Fury was impressive beating Wlad because he just shut him out easily. Doesn’t matter that it was boring. AJ beating Parker wasn’t impressive. He won the fight but didn’t look great doing it.

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I'm going to slightly take issue with this, mainly because I don't cut Fury any slack. I think it was more a case of timid Wlad shutting himself down, than Fury doing any shutting down of his own. If anything, Fury did his work before the fight, when he obviously got into Wlad's head. Had Wlad come out against Fury like he did against AJ, it would've been a whoooooole different story. Think Cunningham knocking down Fury. A non-catatonic Wlad would've KFTO'ed him emphatically.

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AJ is not shit after 2 dull performances he was not pushed in those 2 fights and remember people he won,!!!! Fury did not look great beating Wlad but AJ did ;)
Nobody looks the dogs in every single fight chaps it's boxing end of the day the most important thing is too win Hopkins would win ugly with most of his fights but he was regarded as a master craftsman so just think long and hard.;)

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You get confused with being impressive and being boring. Fury was impressive beating Wlad because he just shut him out easily. Doesn’t matter that it was boring. AJ beating Parker wasn’t impressive. He won the fight but didn’t look great doing it.

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I'm going to slightly take issue with this, mainly because I don't cut Fury any slack. I think it was more a case of timid Wlad shutting himself down, than Fury doing any shutting down of his own. If anything, Fury did his work before the fight, when he obviously got into Wlad's head. Had Wlad come out against Fury like he did against AJ, it would've been a whoooooole different story. Think Cunningham knocking down Fury. A non-catatonic Wlad would've KFTO'ed him emphatically.

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Fury beat Wlad in his own backyard and that deserves credit. He also deserves abuse for throwing it all away. He is a Prat.

AJ got the win and it's sometimes difficult to take a 0 off of somebody as some fighters are willing to give that 0 away at the drop of a hat and some will fight tooth and nail to keep it. This all will boil down to Wilder and AJ and how they treat their 0's....who is ready to give it up?

You have to start to wonder how much that fight vs Wlad took out of AJ. Deontay Wilder hasn't had a knock down drag out like that one, AJ proved he was the better man that day, but at what cost, it's a question that has to come up now. Also it must be asked can Wilder cope with adversity in a fight? Not many guys have stood in there with him long enough to make him answer those hard questions about himself.


I think more and more it's looking like a 50-50 fight which is good for boxing, it's good for PPV and this should indeed be a PPV fight just based on the status of it...undefeated, undisputed, heavyweight championship of the world, that's PPV regardless of what names are on the card.


I think Anthony Joshua will win, I am not really cheering for either fighter as I'm not really a fan of either guy, I'm just hoping for a good fight and most importantly that the fight happens IMMEDIATELY not in 2 years, not in 5 years, not a decade from now, but right fucking now.

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Takam - Poor
Parker - Struggled to impose himself against a small and mobile fighter

Wilders the same size/reach, fluid, slick and can bang

Huge AJ fan here being a Londoner but i see Wilder being way too lively for him and Knocking him out....

Don't see anything from Josh that tells me he's got another level to go to.... has the Hype got to him?

For me a "Wlad Fit" Tyson Fury toys with the pair of them ;)

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I've never heard anyone describe Wilder as fluid and slick.

I'm still picking Joshua. Wilderes only chance is to land big and honestly I dont think he'll take the chances to go for it. See it being a awful Joshua UD.

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AJ got the win and it's sometimes difficult to take a 0 off of somebody as some fighters are willing to give that 0 away at the drop of a hat and some will fight tooth and nail to keep it. This all will boil down to Wilder and AJ and how they treat their 0's....who is ready to give it up?You have to start to wonder how much that fight vs Wlad took out of AJ. Deontay Wilder hasn't had a knock down drag out like that one, AJ proved he was the better man that day, but at what cost, it's a question that has to come up now. Also it must be asked can Wilder cope with adversity in a fight? Not many guys have stood in there with him long enough to make him answer those hard questions about himself.I think more and more it's looking like a 50-50 fight which is good for boxing, it's good for PPV and this should indeed be a PPV fight just based on the status of it...undefeated, undisputed, heavyweight championship of the world, that's PPV regardless of what names are on the card.I think Anthony Joshua will win, I am not really cheering for either fighter as I'm not really a fan of either guy, I'm just hoping for a good fight and most importantly that the fight happens IMMEDIATELY not in 2 years, not in 5 years, not a decade from now, but right fucking now.

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Don’t give me that “not a fan of either...”. You gotta love Joshua, especially compared to Wilder’s “want a body on my record” antics as of late. Get on the AJ train with me! This was a mundane victory, but a victory nonetheless over the #4 or #5 at worst heavyweight in the world. I’d put Ortiz above Parker n maybe Povetkin. That’s a toss up. AJ will be back to knocking guys out next time out.

I think Wilder should be more worried about the preferential treatment AJ will get fighting at home. The judges scored it too wide for AJ, so Wilder will not get a decision over here. Also the ref in the Takam fight was premature in his stoppage so think the ref will be with AJ too.

Do not blame Wilder to make demands now for some equity in the fight.

Fury is a decent boxer but hasn't got the power to trouble AJ. Fury got in against Wlad who for some reason did fuck all..i can appreciate that people might say that fury didnt allow him to, or he made wlad miss but wlad didnt throw..he looked shit against Fury that night...very off.

AJ would close distance and throw a lot more against Fury..and Fury would get stopped..as AJ would not be able to outbox Fury so would just open up, close distance and blit Fury. Wilder too would stop Fury in the same manner

Fury is a fat chinny pikey :)

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I think Wilder should be more worried about the preferential treatment AJ will get fighting at home. The judges scored it too wide for AJ, so Wilder will not get a decision over here. Also the ref in the Takam fight was premature in his stoppage so think the ref will be with AJ too.

Do not blame Wilder to make demands now for some equity in the fight.

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Fine. so put in a counter offer. Like Hearn said, they ain't a fucking charity.
So AJ/Matchroom/Sky have to do the promotion , generate all the interest , bring all the fans in order to make it a stadium fight which generates all the money they want, organize the PPV , and all this so that Wilder can take half?? You and anyone else that says "it should be 50/50 , are fucking dreamers that don't live in the real World.
Tell me, if you were working alongside someone, doing all your work AND most of his work, would YOU be happy if he was on the same Dough?
Also , I don't think the scorecards were too wide. Parker just couldn't get past AJ's jab, and consequently couldn't score any points , therefore he couldn't win any rounds. AJ did enough to control and win the rounds. not by a lot, but that's how Boxing scoring is. As for Takam, yes , it was stopped early, but did it affect the result and did the right person win?

See I love all this... it's been a looooong time coming, waiting for the Heavyweight Division to finally go full circle and catch fire again... We got Punchers...we got Characters and we got some cracking matchups to be made along the way and there looks to be a pretty decent second tier of young Heavies coming through as well.
It's all good 😎

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I think Wilder should be more worried about the preferential treatment AJ will get fighting at home. The judges scored it too wide for AJ, so Wilder will not get a decision over here. Also the ref in the Takam fight was premature in his stoppage so think the ref will be with AJ too.

Do not blame Wilder to make demands now for some equity in the fight.

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Fine. so put in a counter offer. Like Hearn said, they ain't a fucking charity.
So AJ/Matchroom/Sky have to do the promotion , generate all the interest , bring all the fans in order to make it a stadium fight which generates all the money they want, organize the PPV , and all this so that Wilder can take half?? You and anyone else that says "it should be 50/50 , are fucking dreamers that don't live in the real World.
Tell me, if you were working alongside someone, doing all your work AND most of his work, would YOU be happy if he was on the same Dough?
Also , I don't think the scorecards were too wide. Parker just couldn't get past AJ's jab, and consequently couldn't score any points , therefore he couldn't win any rounds. AJ did enough to control and win the rounds. not by a lot, but that's how Boxing scoring is. As for Takam, yes , it was stopped early, but did it affect the result and did the right person win?

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According to what I've heard from most AJ fans, Joshua fills any arena in the UK just by showing up. So I doubt there's actually going to be that much tedious work involved. That being said, I don't think 50/50 is reasonable right now, given the wide gap in popularity between the two at the moment. However, they're both HW world champions with legitimate belts. I don't buy into the "I got more trinkets than you" argument Joshua used in the ring while counting off his belts. They're both champs, having won their titles in the ring. So while 50/50 may not be reasonable right now, I would also say it would be ridiculous for Hearn to offer scraps to Wilder. And as well all know, offering ridiculous splits is usually tantamount to ducking. If they really want to fight, they'll get to an agreement that isn't insulting to either of them.

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I think Wilder should be more worried about the preferential treatment AJ will get fighting at home. The judges scored it too wide for AJ, so Wilder will not get a decision over here. Also the ref in the Takam fight was premature in his stoppage so think the ref will be with AJ too.

Do not blame Wilder to make demands now for some equity in the fight.

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Fine. so put in a counter offer. Like Hearn said, they ain't a fucking charity.
So AJ/Matchroom/Sky have to do the promotion , generate all the interest , bring all the fans in order to make it a stadium fight which generates all the money they want, organize the PPV , and all this so that Wilder can take half?? You and anyone else that says "it should be 50/50 , are fucking dreamers that don't live in the real World.
Tell me, if you were working alongside someone, doing all your work AND most of his work, would YOU be happy if he was on the same Dough?
Also , I don't think the scorecards were too wide. Parker just couldn't get past AJ's jab, and consequently couldn't score any points , therefore he couldn't win any rounds. AJ did enough to control and win the rounds. not by a lot, but that's how Boxing scoring is. As for Takam, yes , it was stopped early, but did it affect the result and did the right person win?

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I said some equity, not necessarily 50% but its Wilder's perogative to ask.

Score cards were too wide. AJ hardly landed with the jab for all his "taking control".

Judges had AJ ahead against Wlad when I thought he was losing and although it made no difference the stoppage against Takem shows that protecting the knock out record was important for the organisers of the fight.

AJ is being propped up like Michael Grant was in the 90s. Scorecards were def too wide, his shining moment was beating the tentative and perhaps a step too slow Wladimir, he will never equal that performance again, perhaps Fury will suffer the same fate, both put in the performance of a lifetime in beating Klit, Wilder doesnt have that shining moment yet at all, so I think Wilder will ****SMOKE*** AJ in the mid-rounds, maybe about 7th, latest 8th round.

The Wlad he fought was several years off his best and back over a year after a pretty dire performance at a really old age. It is smoke and mirrors IMO. The last two performances tell us where Joshua really is and even against that really old Wlad he was out on his feet for several rounds. The Michael Grant comparison sounds apt. Povetkin, Wilder and Fury all beat him IMO. It makes sense that he doesn't want to go to America, he wants to stay home and try and maintain what he has. The clock is ticking already as far as I can see.

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The Wlad he fought was several years off his best and back over a year after a pretty dire performance at a really old age. It is smoke and mirrors IMO. The last two performances tell us where Joshua really is and even against that really old Wlad he was out on his feet for several rounds. The Michael Grant comparison sounds apt. Povetkin, Wilder and Fury all beat him IMO. It makes sense that he doesn't want to go to America, he wants to stay home and try and maintain what he has. The clock is ticking already as far as I can see.

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Povetkin that got knocked down by Price would beat AJ? You are crazy.

Fury is too old and fat to get back into the shape he was a few years ago.

Wilder is the biggest challenge for him and his chances are less than 50% to win.

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AJ is being propped up like Michael Grant was in the 90s. Scorecards were def too wide, his shining moment was beating the tentative and perhaps a step too slow Wladimir, he will never equal that performance again, perhaps Fury will suffer the same fate, both put in the performance of a lifetime in beating Klit, Wilder doesnt have that shining moment yet at all, so I think Wilder will ****SMOKE*** AJ in the mid-rounds, maybe about 7th, latest 8th round.

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Clueless.

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AJ is being propped up like Michael Grant was in the 90s. Scorecards were def too wide, his shining moment was beating the tentative and perhaps a step too slow Wladimir, he will never equal that performance again, perhaps Fury will suffer the same fate, both put in the performance of a lifetime in beating Klit, Wilder doesnt have that shining moment yet at all, so I think Wilder will ****SMOKE*** AJ in the mid-rounds, maybe about 7th, latest 8th round.

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He’s Back!!!!! ;D

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AJ is being propped up like Michael Grant was in the 90s. Scorecards were def too wide, his shining moment was beating the tentative and perhaps a step too slow Wladimir, he will never equal that performance again, perhaps Fury will suffer the same fate, both put in the performance of a lifetime in beating Klit, Wilder doesnt have that shining moment yet at all, so I think Wilder will ****SMOKE*** AJ in the mid-rounds, maybe about 7th, latest 8th round.

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Fantastic way to start off. "truce" my ass, what a hypocrite