Bellew v Haye 2 - 5/5/18 - O2 London

Think Haye will box on the back foot and win this pretty comfortably, maybe by stoppage.
You can bet your life he'll box the complete opposite to what he did in the first fight where Bellew failed to really impose himself on a one legged man for 5 rounds.
Should be interesting this.

• TONY BELLEW VS DAVID HAYE
  12 x 3 mins Heavyweight contest
  
• PAUL BUTLER VS EMMANUEL RODRIQUEZ
  12 x 3 mins vacant IBF World Bantamweight Championship
  
• LENROY THOMAS VS JOE JOYCE
  12 x 3 mins Commonwealth Heavyweight Title
  
• MARTIN JOSEPH WARD VS JAMES TENNYSON
  12 x 3 mins European & WBA International Super-Featherweight Championship
  
• JOHN RYDER VS JAMIE COX
  12 x 3 mins Super-Middleweight contest

Haye will be smart and take his time..

Bellow will always look to counter.

This rematch will decide Hayes future in boxing.

Haye looked horrible even before his foot exploded, as much as I dislike him if he has anything left and doesn't fight like an idiot he wins.

Having said that Bellew will be well up for this and he will feel like he already knows what Haye has to offer based on the first few rounds of their last fight.

Two tremendously unlikable characters, I don't really care who wins, I'll watch it if I can find a stream for it, I'm guessing it's PPV

Yes PPV and been advertising it for 6 months.

Haye looks serious and will win.

I'd love a double knockout and be rid of these clowns.

Bellew can't beat him unless something goes on his body again - probably his knob this time - which I expect to happen.

Haye has potentially massive pay days waiting for him after this and I reckon he has five rounds before his body starts to fail him. Mind you even if both his arms go I think bellew will still struggle to finish him.

Poop card for PPV, poop main event, Bellew to win , there must be a part of his body that Haye wants to injure during the fight

It’s a bad Ppv of course, and I don’t care who wins, but think everything points to bellew. Haye hasn’t beat a decent opponent in over 6 years, retired for much of that time due to injuries and looked muscle bound and cumbersome in his comeback “fights”, neither going long enough to know whether his body will likely hold up in any kind of a contest, the first between these two certainly casting doubt on that. bellew has had a good run in the same stretch of time. Nothing remarkable, but solid and he carried the weight alright. Of course nobody gave him a prayer last time, a guy who got smashed by Adonis Stevenson beating what had been a good hw. Is haye close to that any more though? He seemed to have started training as if he was a fitness model and not a fighter, and if a guy goes that route when he’s injury prone and pushing 40, I dunno. Certainly wouldn’t shock me if some rest did him good and he was able to make this an early blowout, but boxing off the back foot in a long fight seems highly unlikely.

Haye should have recovered from his injury with the amount of time he has been given and should win it even if it by a decision.

Bellew would count that as a moral victory and Sky would try and sell a 3rd PPV fight because they are cunts.

Joshua Buatsi added to the card

http://www.skysports.com/haye-vs-bel...770/11336697/1

I've no issues with the fight. Both are past their best and know they cannot compete with the elite, so why not have a domestic fight again. The first one was fun and this one might be too.

Haye wins simply because he has to. There is nothing left if he loses this fight even if its due to another injury. He was awful the first fight but credit to Bellew he took some shots that Haye thought he couldn't. Haye will fight a much more measured intelligent fight this time and will wait for his opening to end it rather than trying to force it.

I expect Haye to win by stoppage around half way - then get a shot at one of the big guys and get retired for good.

Haye had his shot against Wlad back in the day and he didn't quite measure up. Haye belongs in the past along with the Wlads and the Briggs and within two... maximum three.... fights that's exactly where he will be.

If Haye wins then I am sure AJ will want to fight him because it would be an easy win. Haye would get demolished in a couple of rounds, he is too small and old now.

If Haye wins it would be more fun if he fights Briggs, Whyte and Wilder et al to earn the right to face AJ.

Haye earn the right, that’s funny. Haye has shown no interest in earning anything ever. He wants to milk the public, same as ever. Have to give him credit for the long con though.

Haye does not look that confident here, loads of fake coughing and blinking and often lost for words
1-0 Bellew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBgq1hxrT7Q

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I'd love a double knockout and be rid of these clowns.

Bellew can't beat him unless something goes on his body again - probably his knob this time - which I expect to happen.

Haye has potentially massive pay days waiting for him after this and I reckon he has five rounds before his body starts to fail him. Mind you even if both his arms go I think bellew will still struggle to finish him.

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Yeah I don't want either guy to win. A draw wouldn't be satisfying. I wish there was a scenario where they could both lose...

having said aid that I think I dislike Haye less. I found myself pulling for him in those last 5 rounds even though he deserved to lose for his arrogance.

hayes gotta go into this fight with a 12 rounds strategy. Look to score points and land shots not necessarily with power but work his way into the fight first. Be elusive but not overly athletic given his frail body,do everything by the book. Bellew made him miss a lot first time because hate was so wild. I know he can't throw a straight right anymore but if he's more controlled I can see him winning enough rounds this time.

Is Haye fooling us all that he’s not confident.

Or as he already fooled us all into one last pay day and doesn’t give a shit....

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Haye does not look that confident here, loads of fake coughing and blinking and often lost for words
1-0 Bellew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBgq1hxrT7Q

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No win situation for Haye in this type of interview - he made an arse of himself saying what he was going to do in the first fight and then lost. I don't think it's lack of confidence I think it's more him biting his tongue trying not to respond in the usual over the top way he would.

Bellew is without doubt in the P4P rankings for being able to wind people up :)

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If Haye wins then I am sure AJ will want to fight him because it would be an easy win. Haye would get demolished in a couple of rounds, he is too small and old now.

If Haye wins it would be more fun if he fights Briggs, Whyte and Wilder et al to earn the right to face AJ.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see even an old Haye knock Joshua out in 2 actually. I cannot believe how high on Joshua you all are. His best win is a 40 year old Wlad fresh off of being outboxed by.....Tyson Fury.

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If Haye wins then I am sure AJ will want to fight him because it would be an easy win. Haye would get demolished in a couple of rounds, he is too small and old now.

If Haye wins it would be more fun if he fights Briggs, Whyte and Wilder et al to earn the right to face AJ.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see even an old Haye knock Joshua out in 2 actually. I cannot believe how high on Joshua you all are. His best win is a 40 year old Wlad fresh off of being outboxed by.....Tyson Fury.

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AJ is the best current heavyweight, no one should deny that.

Haye is past his best no one can deny that either.

Tony Bellew: David Haye will not last eight rounds in our rematch

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cp...haye_getty.jpg

Tony Bellew says he will stop David Haye inside eight rounds in their rematch and insists his rival "should have stayed clear" of him.

The pair meet at heavyweight in London on 5 May, 14 months after Bellew stopped an injured Haye in round 11.

Bellew, 35, insists he would have beaten Haye even when the Briton dominated the cruiserweight division, holding three world titles in 2008.

"I'll beat David Haye no matter what day of the year it is," he said.

"I'm faster than anyone he's ever faced, I'm someone who can dictate, I'm someone who can make him miss, I'm someone who's got enough pop in his punch to make him think twice about engaging.

"I'm not saying I'm better than any fighter he's faced because he's faced much better fighters than me - Wladimir Klitschko is far better than me - but he can't do the things that I can do."

Many observers expected Haye to retire in the aftermath of his shock defeat to Bellew, who was fighting at heavyweight for the first time as a professional.

The 37-year-old, who has also held a world heavyweight title, underwent surgery on the Achilles injury he suffered midway through the bout and later had to postpone a rematch in order to have an operation on a bicep injury.

Haye has stated defeat would likely end his career but believes he is in better shape than 14 months ago having now linked up with renowned Cuban trainer Ismael Salas.

The rivals have not yet engaged in the kind of heated exchanges which led up to their first bout but Liverpudlian Bellew - himself a former world champion at cruiserweight - said: "I've got a good boxing brain and I can adapt and adjust to any situation.

"If I use my brain and I make the right adjustments at the right times I'll have rid of David Haye before the eighth round.

"Quite simply it's styles make fights. My style is just wrong for David Haye and he should have stayed well clear of me."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/43892833

Actually looking forward to this rematch, the first fight was pure drama and Haye was winning up until the injury on all the cards.

That was the worst version of Haye i have ever seen, swinging/missing by miles and using zero boxing skills.

The fact that Bellew struggled to put a one legged man to sleep only added to the drama.

Surely Haye will go back to basics and actually box this time.

It's an intriguing albeit meaningless rematch for me, but Haye as always will probably be knocking on the door of a title shot or at least a final eliminator should he win this.

agreed Smash - although I don't see either as relevant going forward and no time for either I'm quite looking forward to how it unfolds.

if Haye hasn't got him by 5th though i think he he'll fold and maybe quit .

roll on 5th May

I am convinced Haye came in injured before the fight and thought he could knock out Bellew early and go home.

Bellew showed courage to stand toe to toe against Haye and think he has enough experience to not get caught by the right hand.

Once Haye realises that he can not stop Bellew he will win the rounds and take the decision.

Notice Haye, Bellew and Sky have contrived together and not mention the injury.

Maybe he was carrying something into the fight whence the timing, but it definitely snapped proper during the fight. The early rounds were very different to the later rounds. It was a good fight and I am curious about this one.

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If Haye wins then I am sure AJ will want to fight him because it would be an easy win. Haye would get demolished in a couple of rounds, he is too small and old now.

If Haye wins it would be more fun if he fights Briggs, Whyte and Wilder et al to earn the right to face AJ.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see even an old Haye knock Joshua out in 2 actually. I cannot believe how high on Joshua you all are. His best win is a 40 year old Wlad fresh off of being outboxed by.....Tyson Fury.

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Utterly agree and Deontay Wilder is too skinny and fast and will knock the living piss out of AJ

Liverpool presser live....will Haye bite? ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-tINTALtZ8&feature=push-lsb&attr_tag=BwesD5ycWIXCTtM6-6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyXTKswNet4

What did Haye's injury in the first fight and up being?

Admittedly I don't like Hate and never paid close attention

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What did Haye's injury in the first fight and up being?

Admittedly I don't like Hate and never paid close attention

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Haye's achilles snapped during the fight and as a result he lost. Bellew was still not able to stop him and was tired mid way into the fight as he put on too much weight.

​Yes, it was fairly dramatic ..... but nonetheless a poor quality contest between a Has Been and a Never Was

The obvious failing of his body aside, Haye looked like dogshite in the first fight. No timing, no power, a complete lack of or abandonment of boxing fundamentals. Even when his leg fell off his only retort was to back away, cover up a bit and swing the occasional arm punch.

He knows how Bellew will play it, he'll be playing the waiting game giving Haye every opportunity to do the work for him and fall apart. Haye is either going to have to be equally as patient, or he's going to have to dig a proper laser guided right hand out of the vault.

If Haye's body holds up and he wins this fight with ease then I suggest we all go vegan immediately.

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The obvious failing of his body aside, Haye looked like dogshite in the first fight. No timing, no power, a complete lack of or abandonment of boxing fundamentals. Even when his leg fell off his only retort was to back away, cover up a bit and swing the occasional arm punch.

He knows how Bellew will play it, he'll be playing the waiting game giving Haye every opportunity to do the work for him and fall apart. Haye is either going to have to be equally as patient, or he's going to have to dig a proper laser guided right hand out of the vault.

If Haye's body holds up and he wins this fight with ease then I suggest we all go vegan immediately.

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This is exactly why i'm thinking this could well be a very cagey fight or at least cagey first half of the fight, the only way i see Haye winning is to sit back and counter like he did against Enzo Maccarinelli.

Problem is that's Bellews game so i can see them both just circling each other for ages until things heat up.

I also don't think Haye can throw that right hand Hayemaker effectively in a straight line anymore due to his shoulder injury which is why he was missing Bellew by miles with those huge looping/lunging right hooks.

Somewhere down the line this will catch fire as Haye could well be in desperation mode and need a KO later on to save his career.

One thing this fight should guarantee is drama at some stage but i think we'll see a cagey opening unlike last time where it was a shoot out from the off.

In the real world , I couldn’t give 2 shits about this fight. But in “Saddo prediction championship” World, I’m really concerned that Haye is gonna lose me my titles.
You don’t have the injuries that Haye has had at his age and come back strong.
I’ve just watched the behind the ropes programme and Haye doesn’t do any running or mobility work, he doesn’t appear to do any sparring, then he thinks he can go in the ring on fight night and the timing will just come.
It didn’t last time and it won’t this time.
What fucking annoys me most, is that this all makes Bellew look like a decent fighter. Never have I seen anybody over achieve by as much as he has.
To think he became a World Champion, and earned mega bucks , whereas Herrol Graham for example never really disappoints me.
No doubt I’m gonna get slated for this , but fuck it.

I think he was missing with those shots in the first fight because he had no legs from the off. Whatever was plaguing him finally went during the fight making it even worse. You don't come out with bad footwork like that out of nowhere. I think Haye thought it would be an easy nights work and thought he could go in there and bomb his man out. Not to be. Hopefully he is healed and can give a good fight.

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What fucking annoys me most, is that this all makes Bellew look like a decent fighter. Never have I seen anybody over achieve by as much as he has.
To think he became a World Champion, and earned mega bucks , whereas Herrol Graham for example never really disappoints me.

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Mate, you are spot on.

No slagging off coming from me on that one.

Haye insulted everyone including himself turning up out of shape (in every way) in that first fight.

Lets see if he learnt from that.

Haye has to go back to basics and respect Bellew.

Haye must use his natural size, boxing skills, speed and the win will come. He does not have to look for the knock out. Bellew is too good to try and smash up.

Haye looks like he knows this and is taking Bellew very seriously.

Bellew is trying to play "mind games" and try to get in Haye's head because that is the only way he knows he can win.

Just watched the public workout, Bellew looks fast as fuck and Haye looks slim... 15.5 stone thin and in great shape, also was pissing sweat and breathing heavy after a 10 minute pad session.
Looks really flat footed Haye as well.
I'm looking forward to Joshua Buatsi in his first 8 rounder and I hope Sky stick him on live tv unlike last time where he was on about 5.30pm on the YouTube stream.
Quartey/Hagler/Holyfield all rolled into one this kid and he's going far.

Haye actually put up his own posters today 😂
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing...-what-12466356

I try not to put too much into public workouts but fuck me Haye looked terrible. His mechanics looked awful. He looked like a bloke who used to box 20 years ago and has just stuck a pair of gloves on for the first time.