Selling off the UK rail franchise has been a disaster

It does not seem to have worked in any tangible way. I speak from a region frequently cut off when the sea washes away the track at Dawlish meaning the whole of Devon and Cornwall lose the rail connection to London, Brum and the rest of the country. For businesses here it can be very damaging. I can rarely justify it. If I have a job in London It's never long enough notice to avoid paying astronomical prices for a poor service.


https://buyingbusinesstravel.com/new...ail-franchises

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...system-say-mps

Tory ideology is to privatise the public sector whereas Labour want to renationalise it and it would pay for itself. Sensible and logical.

The UK rail system is scarily bad. I was shocked when I discovered it was something like 25-30 pounds to get from the airport to my hometown. It's not a long journey by any stretch of the imagination. Fair enough the train was in good condition and it wasn't overcrowded but it left a bad impression. I was thinking 'Is this country going to bankrupt me?' It is cheaper to travel to other countries than get to far flung parts of the UK by train. Traveling to the UK sucks because of the transport costs and also hotel costs. It is all very unreasonable and the quality of hotels is usually fairly poor. Unless you pay 250 pounds a night as I did once in London having got a bus there by mistake. A reasonable part of London where the people are rich and few of the people working in thd area could ever afford to live there. If I write a best seller and have Amazon get the word out I might go back to that hotel and take the train instead of the bus.

Chris Grayling is a fuck wit of a minister who privatised every department he goes into including employment with work programmes, probation and continue to keep the piss poor franchise that run the trains. He is an evil bastard and waiting in the wings to become prime minister.

Off topic but I took a train in China from a small city to Beijing. It was a 19hr trip. The train had those sleeping cars, looked like our trains I see in the movies from the fifties. Dinner service to your room. Really cool way to travel

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Bet it was cheap as chips to ride on it.

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Bet it was cheap as chips to ride on it.

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Cheap as chips, good one. Yes, with the western conversion you don’t need much money to live like a king in China as long as you are not scared to leave the spots that cater to westerners. Master if u are looking for real cheap living I can recommend a few spots in Afghanistan

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Cheap as chips, good one. Yes, with the western conversion you don’t need much money to live like a king in China as long as you are not scared to leave the spots that cater to westerners. Master if u are looking for real cheap living I can recommend a few spots in Afghanistan

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I have my backup place. India. 29p for a haircut and that is with a tip.

Ironically foreigners cannot buy property in India which is kind of unfair considering how many Indians own property in the UK. I have thought about retreating to somewhere cheap and reclusive, but it's temp contracts, restrictions and uncertainty. Impossible to do a Robinson Crusoe anymore.

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I think you can cheat that law by paying someone to use their name.

In Saudi Arabia I think it is the same?

It's hardly comparable though Master. Don't be an apologist for unfair policies towards countries full of white people. Walrus cannot build his church in Saudi Arabia and I cannot buy a house in India. Yet millions of Indians and Middle Easterns own property and exercise their religious rights in the West. Then some have the gall to say 'We don't like it. We want our own laws too'.

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It's hardly comparable though Master. Don't be an apologist for unfair policies towards countries full of white people. Walrus cannot build his church in Saudi Arabia and I cannot buy a house in India. Yet millions of Indians and Middle Easterns own property and exercise their religious rights in the West. Then some have the gall to say 'We don't like it. We want our own laws too'.

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Then Trump should sort that out the church issue with Saudi Arabia when he is negotiating arms deals with their royal family.

Just because some brown people say they want their laws here, you stereotype the whole community as ungrateful. There is a word for that.

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Labour had the chance under Tony B.Liar , they did nothing , its all talk from the opposition fuck all will happen as usual.
Politian's are all fucking spineless.

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Labour had the chance under Tony B.Liar , they did nothing , its all talk from the opposition fuck all will happen as usual.
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So we stick with this lot? They are worse.

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Then Trump should sort that out the church issue with Saudi Arabia when he is negotiating arms deals with their royal family.

Just because some brown people say they want their laws here, you stereotype the whole community as ungrateful. There is a word for that.

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At University we rented a home and the Indian chap was making an absolute fortune from us who had all taken on loans to pay our rental costs. Yet, I cannot go to India and behave like this. It's hardly racism, it is a home truth and a valid comparison and has nothing to do with Donald Trump. 4 bedrooms cost us something like 800 pounds a month between us and you are talking a long time ago. I cannot remember exactly, but it was a lot. Now after years of immigration property prices are beyond reach for most and to go to Uni the debt levels are much higher. It is opportunism. Even if you could buy a house in India, you couldn't make the same in rent you can in the UK. How many properties are owned by foreigners in the UK? It is one reason prices are so high. Where can a Brit buy? He can move to China and marry a Chinese person and he is not even entitled to work. He can go to India and not be allowed to buy property. Foreigners going to the UK have it made.

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Then Trump should sort that out the church issue with Saudi Arabia when he is negotiating arms deals with their royal family.

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At University we rented a home and the Indian chap was making an absolute fortune from us who had all taken on loans to pay our rental costs. Yet, I cannot go to India and behave like this. It's hardly racism, it is a home truth and a valid comparison and has nothing to do with Donald Trump. 4 bedrooms cost us something like 800 pounds a month between us and you are talking a long time ago. I cannot remember exactly, but it was a lot. Now after years of immigration property prices are beyond reach for most and to go to Uni the debt levels are much higher. It is opportunism. Even if you could buy a house in India, you couldn't make the same in rent you can in the UK. How many properties are owned by foreigners in the UK? It is one reason prices are so high. Where can a Brit buy? He can move to China and marry a Chinese person and he is not even entitled to work. He can go to India and not be allowed to buy property. Foreigners going to the UK have it made.

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Multi millionaires foreigners buying property here is a problem no matter their race/nationality.

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It's hardly comparable though Master. Don't be an apologist for unfair policies towards countries full of white people. Walrus cannot build his church in Saudi Arabia and I cannot buy a house in India. Yet millions of Indians and Middle Easterns own property and exercise their religious rights in the West. Then some have the gall to say 'We don't like it. We want our own laws too'.

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Then Trump should sort that out the church issue with Saudi Arabia when he is negotiating arms deals with their royal family.

Just because some brown people say they want their laws here, you stereotype the whole community as ungrateful. There is a word for that.

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At University we rented a home and the Indian chap was making an absolute fortune from us who had all taken on loans to pay our rental costs. Yet, I cannot go to India and behave like this. It's hardly racism, it is a home truth and a valid comparison and has nothing to do with Donald Trump. 4 bedrooms cost us something like 800 pounds a month between us and you are talking a long time ago. I cannot remember exactly, but it was a lot. Now after years of immigration property prices are beyond reach for most and to go to Uni the debt levels are much higher. It is opportunism. Even if you could buy a house in India, you couldn't make the same in rent you can in the UK. How many properties are owned by foreigners in the UK? It is one reason prices are so high. Where can a Brit buy? He can move to China and marry a Chinese person and he is not even entitled to work. He can go to India and not be allowed to buy property. Foreigners going to the UK have it made.

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I bring up race because we are making direct comparisons between India and the UK and the reality is there are a lot of Indian people with property in the UK and none who own property in India. That seems like an unfair relationship. That's why I brought up China too, it goes beyond race and they too have their China towns everywhere, yet you marry one of their women and you are denied the opportunity to work. It's kind of off.

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Then Trump should sort that out the church issue with Saudi Arabia when he is negotiating arms deals with their royal family.

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At University we rented a home and the Indian chap was making an absolute fortune from us who had all taken on loans to pay our rental costs. Yet, I cannot go to India and behave like this. It's hardly racism, it is a home truth and a valid comparison and has nothing to do with Donald Trump. 4 bedrooms cost us something like 800 pounds a month between us and you are talking a long time ago. I cannot remember exactly, but it was a lot. Now after years of immigration property prices are beyond reach for most and to go to Uni the debt levels are much higher. It is opportunism. Even if you could buy a house in India, you couldn't make the same in rent you can in the UK. How many properties are owned by foreigners in the UK? It is one reason prices are so high. Where can a Brit buy? He can move to China and marry a Chinese person and he is not even entitled to work. He can go to India and not be allowed to buy property. Foreigners going to the UK have it made.

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I bring up race because we are making direct comparisons between India and the UK and the reality is there are a lot of Indian people with property in the UK and none who own property in India. That seems like an unfair relationship. That's why I brought up China too, it goes beyond race and they too have their China towns everywhere, yet you marry one of their women and you are denied the opportunity to work. It's kind of off.

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Yes, totally racist.

We agree that India is racist. Excellent. We are making progress. Now, let's close the borders to them until they show balance in the relationship.

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Good idea. Problem is there are too many of them here. What do we do about that, Tommy?

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We agree that India is racist. Excellent. We are making progress. Now, let's close the borders to them until they show balance in the relationship.

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Good idea. Problem is there are too many of them here. What do we do about that, Tommy?

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Immediately open the borders to India and let the same number of us work and buy property there.

I want to retire somewhere cheap and the truth is it isn't easy outside of the EU. Yet it seems everyone can go there. I am not an open borders guy actually, but do think if you marry into the culture and learn the language then you expect a few rights.

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I gave you the example of China for that. Do you support racist policies against majority white countries? Master, that is very disrespectful considering all the benefits you have been given in a new country. You could simply say 'Yes, this is wrong', but instead you just want to call the white man a racist.

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I gave you the example of China for that. Do you support racist policies against majority white countries? Master, that is very disrespectful considering all the benefits you have been given in a new country. You could simply say 'Yes, this is wrong', but instead you just want to call the white man a racist.

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When did I say that?

You have failed to condemn India for exporting their people but deny equal rights to the white man.

You have called me racist for giving an example of how Indians have profited from this unfair exchange.

You called me Tommy which in mainstream media parlance means 'Nazi'.

Furthermore, you are nominated in a thread asking who most hates the white man.

As I have argued, I just want a cheap place to retire and don't see why I cannot buy a house in India.

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You have failed to condemn India for exporting their people but deny equal rights to the white man.

You have called me racist for giving an example of how Indians have profited from this unfair exchange.

You called me Tommy which in mainstream media parlance means 'Nazi'.

Furthermore, you are nominated in a thread asking who most hates the white man.

As I have argued, I just want a cheap place to retire and don't see why I cannot buy a house in India.

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You can use my name for free but I do not want you living next to me.

Miles unless I am mistaken Master was born in Britain in England. He is therefore English and British and older than you. So by any measure he is way more English than you having been born and spending his life here.

You are a third Korean and two thirds American/English? And you are telling Master he should be grateful? For what? He has paid more tax in the UK than you. Having lived and worked here longer than you. Done more for the UK CJS than you. Done more in the English community than you.

But you are supposedly not a racist? 😂

I am saying his parent country denies me access to property and my own country allowed his family everything. I am saying that is racist. Master is racist because he is in the poll and called me a racist, you racist.

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I am saying his parent country denies me access to property and my own country allowed his family everything. I am saying that is racist. Master is racist because he is in the poll and called me a racist, you racist.

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Well apparently everybody is racist so by that measure even real racists like you can't be racists. If you are a resident then you can buy property in India. Are you saying that even Indian immigrants who move to the UK permanently and are UK citizens should not be able to buy property or just Indians?

Your country allowed his family everything? ;D


Do you not think they may have had to work harder than you like many of their generation, white, black or green?

You are the biggest racist on the forum, Beanz. Let's count the harsh words you have given to Denilson and compare them with the harsh words you have given to Walrus. Yet who has been the most racist among them?

I am saying that many countries have restrictions on who can buy property and it is YOU who have complained about London being bought up by foreigners. Don't be a hypocrite.

Miles is right that UK/US are far more open to immigration from India than vice versa.

That is definitely racist of India not to allow us to buy a house and retire there.

Eye opening thread indeed.
https://britishexpats.com/forum/goa-...beware-435930/

So basically, you are seemingly very misguided on being able to buy property in India, Beanz though you could go for it and expect to lose your money. Meanwhile millions of Indians have been welcomed into the West. Yet I am the racist one? It's very funny how you are always able to spin it like you do. ;D

India is extremely racist towards non-indians my own Indian students have told me that. I have absolutely no chance to buy any property in India or get any job offers in India it is very very rare. Also I went through Cox & Kings here in New York City who is handling all of the Visa applications now for the country of India. Cox & Kings makes it so difficult to fill out the application that I with a master's degree could barely way through over 14 pages of visa application questions written in what I would call a very substandard English which contains many contradictions in the meaning of the sentences when you go to answer questions about your purpose of going and none of the situations actually match a mirror tourist kind of thing. Many of those things are rejected 210 US dollars!!!!!

That thread is full of angry people who just wanted to go somewhere and retire and got scammed. I think it is right that a country protect its borders, but when you export so many people who also then send money home I think you are having your cake and eating it a bit.

Isn't your wife Indian Brock? Can you stay there? Is that an option for you?

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It's hardly comparable though Master. Don't be an apologist for unfair policies towards countries full of white people. Walrus cannot build his church in Saudi Arabia and I cannot buy a house in India. Yet millions of Indians and Middle Easterns own property and exercise their religious rights in the West. Then some have the gall to say 'We don't like it. We want our own laws too'.

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Then Trump should sort that out the church issue with Saudi Arabia when he is negotiating arms deals with their royal family.

Just because some brown people say they want their laws here, you stereotype the whole community as ungrateful. There is a word for that.

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At University we rented a home and the Indian chap was making an absolute fortune from us who had all taken on loans to pay our rental costs. Yet, I cannot go to India and behave like this. It's hardly racism, it is a home truth and a valid comparison and has nothing to do with Donald Trump. 4 bedrooms cost us something like 800 pounds a month between us and you are talking a long time ago. I cannot remember exactly, but it was a lot. Now after years of immigration property prices are beyond reach for most and to go to Uni the debt levels are much higher. It is opportunism. Even if you could buy a house in India, you couldn't make the same in rent you can in the UK. How many properties are owned by foreigners in the UK? It is one reason prices are so high. Where can a Brit buy? He can move to China and marry a Chinese person and he is not even entitled to work. He can go to India and not be allowed to buy property. Foreigners going to the UK have it made.

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Multi millionaires foreigners buying property here is a problem no matter their race/nationality.

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I bring up race because we are making direct comparisons between India and the UK and the reality is there are a lot of Indian people with property in the UK and none who own property in India. That seems like an unfair relationship. That's why I brought up China too, it goes beyond race and they too have their China towns everywhere, yet you marry one of their women and you are denied the opportunity to work. It's kind of off.

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I hear u miles. We have a bunch of those from India here in the US. They love to buy gas stations and tobacco stores. Same with Pakistan’s immigrants. They are very hard workers and I know a few personally and they bought beautiful homes and ended up with three or four stores. They came here legally so no issue. If we allow that it should go both ways. I know it’s not the people running the stores here it’s the government but it don’t seem right

Why haven't you bought property in the UK then Miles? You could have made a lot of money on your investment.

Too complicated and expensive. I haven't always had the money. Ended up investing here. Lost 30 grand so far. Yay overbuilding in low birthrate paradise.

I know someone who bought 30 years ago. Rents it out and a steady income overseas. Mortgages were well cheap then.