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They both earned a lot of money tonight..that will soften the blow..the main issue for Haye is the guy that beat him.
Haye loosing to Bellew in this fashion will hurt him for a long time..expect Haye to have another farewell fight so he doesn’t leave the sport on a loss.
Would Haye ever pimp himself out some more for a few more fights?..or does he stick to promoting?
What would you do?
Haye injures himself when he shadow boxes. :mad:
That was one of the worst performances I have seen in a while. Haye was completely off balance from the start. Again. Then as soon as he was down, he had no coordination at all. Did Haye land a meaningful punch? He won the first two by being busier, but his punches were again very, very sloppy. Once the knockdown happened he was back to that bizarre throwing at air thing he was doing in the last fight. It was quite odd.
I think that is the end of David Haye. He will never again be able to convince anyone he is an any state to enter a boxing ring. His legs are totally gone.
I think you should look at his record.
Started at 22, declared that he would be a world champion by 30 and retire, duly did that with undisputed Cruiserweight and wba heavyweight, didn't retire, milked Warren etc. by smashing Macaroni, Harrison, Chisora etc, continuing to make good money, but injury caught up with him . Not a bad innings I'd say and one of our more successful boxers both in titles and financial acheivements. Remeniscent of Billy Walker in terms of fan appeal (but Billy never won a title), and not scratching around at the Albert Hall for Levine every month like Cooper/Bodell/London/Prentiss etc. Not a bad career.
I agree. He has had a good career. It's a bad way to go out though. The first time you could say that maybe he got injured and you can give him the benefit of the doubt, but it leaves a sour taste when he comes in with exactly the same problem. The fight was almost a rerun of the last one except the referee decided he wanted a role too. Fair enough getting sparked by Wilder or what have you, but to lose twice in a row to Bellew probably stings a lot. If he knew he was injured then he should just have said as much and called it a day rather than bothering with this. Haye obviously lied about his condition and those who commented on his heavy bag work were right. It wasn't a performance, that was really where he was at. I hope he calls it a day and does something else. He is smart and can do other things. But now people will be saying 'Tony Bellew you out. Hahaha!' and that isn't a very nice thing.
Haye is an actual fighter not a fan. Different mentality. He didn't spend months training everyday to fight someone he didn't respect (regardless of what is said in the pre-fight sell), there's a reason Bellew is a former decorated amateur, British, Commonwealth, European and WBC world champion.
Fans bums and fighters bums are something entirely different.
As Haye said himself, if he can not beat someone like Bellew then he has no right to fight for the top heavyweights and the title.
Now that he has lost he should retire. He is shot, his body is falling apart and he looks rubbish in the ring after 2 rounds.
Call it a day David.
Let’s say he fights Whyte..and beats him..what does that mean.?
Haye will not finish on a loss.
Haye can only beat anyone decent if he lands a bomb in first two rounds.
Bellew said after first two rounds he was telling the referee to stop it. Didn’t see this happen so maybe cameras didn’t catch it.
If Bellew beats Whyte then he is a legitimate heavyweight contender. Bellew is not a legitimate heavyweight contender which is why he wants to fight Andre Ward. There is no way Bellew will fight Tyson Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Haye's been conning the public for a few years now.
He knew he was finished when he came back, hence why he fought 2 car crash dummies & seriously entertained the idea of fighting 97 year old Shannon Briggs, who is probably even more shot than he is.
He fought Bellew because he thought it would be an easy knock-over of a fat cruiserweight whilst at the same time padding his retirement fund.
Unfortunately for him, the Gorilla tape that is holding his body together unravelled & he was exposed & laid bare.
It would be sad to see him continuing because he clearly has nothing to offer at the top of the HW division & he's had such a good career that seeing him as a gatekeeper/punchbag would be even sadder.
If I was advising him, I'd tell him to quite whilst he still has his wealth, health, looks & faculties intact.
I honestly don't care if he continues or not after last night, if he quite at least I won't have to see or hear from the cunt anymore, if he continues then at least I'll get to see him KTFO every time he is in with someone decent.
In fact I kind of hope he carries on just so my hatred for him doesn't wane.
He doesn’t have a lot of choice though. If he loses to Bellew , he loses to any of the World’s top 20 HW’s. Bellew is not a HW and not a good HW .Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
So for him to get an opponent that he can end on a win, the quality of opponent won’t pay him enough.
And Haye has PROVED that would rather lose than earn shit money.
Ok..as we know styles make fights.
I agree that Haye should retire but let’s pretend that he decides to fight one more time.
Parker said he would entertain both..what happens in each situation.
I saw it on the repeat. After Bellew knocked Haye down, I think for the second time at the end of the round he saw Haye had injured his ankle and was pleading with the ref to stop the fight as Haye was injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Haye should have tweaked his style many years ago but those two plums he fought in his comeback fights gave him false hope..
David Haye sold his legacy in the last 2 fights. We might not have known that he had deteriorated so badly, BUT HE DID! everybody knows their own body.
Haye knew this, but still had to take the money, that’s how desperate he was. He needed the money and he sold his soul to get the money.
This desperation leads me to one thought. He’s earnt megabucks and he’s had to come back.
That avenue of earning is now over. So over the next 5 or 10 years , his lifestyle is going to make him leech money, he’ll make some bad business decisions and at the end of that he won’t have the safety blanket of making a comeback. Guaranteed he will end up SKINT!!!
I don’t say this with any joy, a few years ago , I thought the World of him, but he is so so far away from that, and he shouldn’t even be trying to fight.
I’m the same. Big fan a few years back.
Steve Bunce got it spot on when saying Haye realised he didn’t have another ten rounds in him after second round and then just stopped caring.
I have a bit more respect for a Bellew after this fight who alnowledged all this from the get go and afterwars rather than make out he beat a peak Haye.
Haye will end up skint. Maybe he’ll get a couple of ok pay days against the likes of Price and Hughie Fury but he’ll be there only because he needs to be.
Sad to see if that happens.
Well Haye was shocking bellend is not that good both made shit load of money.
Winners Dick and Doom loosers mugs like us paying for that £20.
LOL couldn't happen to a nicer guy ;D
You might say that Haye "Bellew his opportunity"
Hold on....
You might say that Haye "Bellew his opportunity"
There, better