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Why was Tyson able to beat Spinks so quickly? Was it because Spinks was afraid, or was Tyson just a bad style match-up for him?
I honestly don't know if it would haven been much different if Spinks weren't afraid. Tyson was bigger and stronger than him
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Originally Posted by VG_Addict
Yes and yes.
Spinks came in a career heavy so had planned to take it to Tyson.
Spinks did panic when he got hit, but his plan was to take Tyson to the later rounds. If that happened then he would have had a slim chance.
Basically Spinks met a real and prime heavyweight. I think Spinks would have lost to Tucker and the other fighters he avoided and gave up his title.
If I remember correct Spinks wasnt interested in aTyson fight until he saw Tucker take tyson the distance
Like everybody Tyson fought, Spinks was shit scared of him. But there’s different types of scared.
1. Being scared and avoiding him.
2. Being scared and going into self-preservation mode.
3. Being scared and thinking “fuck it, I’m gonna get smashed , but I’m gonna try and smash the cunt!”
People like Spinks and Berbick to be fair , thought “fuck it, I’m scared, but I’m gonna have a go!” Unfortunately for them , the reality was that there was good reason for their concern.
You could see how frustrated Berbick was for example, when he just couldn’t fucking stand up.
Spinks was interested in fighting Tyson because that was where the money was and he was holding out for a big offer. A bit like Wilder and AJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
Because Spinks had never been hit that hard before and his limitations became immediately obvious. He had been carefully matched at heavyweight to set up this big payday (Tyson got paid $22 Million for 91 second 1st round KO, and Spinks got $13.5 Million)Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
3 things stuck out about the fight though.
1) Tyson's entrance music : Tyson entrance music to this fight was without question the best entrance music to a fight that I've ever heard. Just really intimidating. Cold. It sounded like Coil-Time Machines
2) The fight was on a Monday night : From what I've read the reason for that was because the promoters wanted all gamblers to keep on gambling throughout the weekend, and by Monday, they would have more money to place bets.
3) The first knockdown : Tyson 1st knockdown punches of Spinks were two of the best punches I've seen, the uppercut then the body shot. Just perfect.
I never knew it was on a monday? this would be cos was delayed viewing on uk tv so presumed had been the previous saturday
Tyson was one of the best ever the first 3/4 rounds as well. Before he fatigued, his head movement stopped and his punches became telegraphed.
when Tyson was champ it was exciting times :) everyone knew who he was. as kids we thought no one had a chance against him. infact most people on the planet thought no one had a chance.
I seem to recall the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
Was this one on ITV over here ? Vague memories but think it was pre Sky taking over
I am sure it was Saturday/Sunday morning as I stayed up and it was on ITV. The delay to the fight was when Spinks asked Tyson to put his boxing gloves on again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKOI seem to recall the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
Was this one on ITV over here ? Vague memories but think it was pre Sky taking over
If I'm right after the tucker fight, Spinks & Butch Lewis were interviewed and were ranting & raving. pretty sure ITV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKOI seem to recall the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
Was this one on ITV over here ? Vague memories but think it was pre Sky taking over
I missed the spinks/tyson fight as I was out with me mates up to no good probably as a kid and then remembered I had not set the video recorder Noooooooooooooooooooooo
Damn schoolboy error
Think my dad recorded it for me on Scotch Videotape.
Every recording was as good as the first you know.
Re record not fade away. Re record not fade away. Re record not fad............etc
I think Michael Spinks had never fought someone who he felt wanted to do him legitimate harm...Larry Holmes said Tyson was the first guy he fought that had that aura about him so I reckon it was similar for Spinks.
I swear if they fought 100 times I think Tyson would end up winning 110 times ;D, the styles were not good and Spinks' best attributes were negated by Tyson's style. Spinks' style was about drawing someone in and sticking and moving, Tyson's style was about chasing down a fighter, avoiding their desperation punches, and landing power shots in devastating fashion. So Spinks' style allowed for aggression only Tyson's style gave him no opportunity to stick and move, in fact the "sticking" was helpful to Tyson as it opened up windows for his power punches.
;D I remember that ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
They took up so much bloody room them damn tapes.
I always got the Scotch Videotape, they were slightly more expensive but lifetime guarantee. Still have mines and they work and are relatively clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
I had Tyson Holyfield 1 and 2 the post fight interviews and I did not see those post fight interviews on YouTube until about 2005 I was the only one who had it recorded on VHS
Man I had all the tyson fights in order on VHS (except the spinks one :( from berbick to lewis
I have them but recorded over the Bonecrusher one (which I regret) as it was a boring fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
Do u know what i dont think ive ever watched the whole of the bonecrusher one, didnt he just spoil the fight with holding?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI have them but recorded over the Bonecrusher one (which I regret) as it was a boring fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
Yes but the last 30 seconds Smith throws everything and lands a big right hand that hurts Tyson. Best part of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by DragoDo u know what i dont think ive ever watched the whole of the bonecrusher one, didnt he just spoil the fight with holding?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI have them but recorded over the Bonecrusher one (which I regret) as it was a boring fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
Man the crazy thing is that with all the other hitters that Spinks ever fought he was not once put down on the canvas before that. Spinks was not really heavyweight I am surprised he did as well against Holmes as he did even old Larry was better then most people to fight at Heavyweight. Spinks was at Heavyweight because he was unbeatable at LHW and cleared out the division with 11 title defence and there was no where else for him to go but up.
Good old Bonecrusher....great nickname AND from Magnolia, NC gotta love it when the hometown guy makes it big :thumb: ...also the first heavyweight champ with a college degree. he was also mighty late to boxing starting at 28 years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYes but the last 30 seconds Smith throws everything and lands a big right hand that hurts Tyson. Best part of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by DragoDo u know what i dont think ive ever watched the whole of the bonecrusher one, didnt he just spoil the fight with holding?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI have them but recorded over the Bonecrusher one (which I regret) as it was a boring fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
I remember bone crusher destroying frank bruno and giving him his 1st loss.
He probably offloaded on tyson cos he knew the fight was virtually over and was pretty safe
The Bone Crusher waited until 30 seconds left in the last round and landed a really thunderous Right Hand That Shook Mike Tyson and I remember the announcer saying what in God's name did Bonecrusher wait until now for to throw that punch?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI have them but recorded over the Bonecrusher one (which I regret) as it was a boring fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
That's a coincidence bcuz we just ate at Our Crepes a brunch here in Wilmington, NCQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongGood old Bonecrusher....great nickname AND from Magnolia, NC gotta love it when the hometown guy makes it big :thumb: ...also the first heavyweight champ with a college degree. he was also mighty late to boxing starting at 28 years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYes but the last 30 seconds Smith throws everything and lands a big right hand that hurts Tyson. Best part of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by DragoDo u know what i dont think ive ever watched the whole of the bonecrusher one, didnt he just spoil the fight with holding?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI have them but recorded over the Bonecrusher one (which I regret) as it was a boring fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago