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If you could be any boxer, which boxing style would you have?
Mines would be Terry Norris.
The speed, combinations, power, footwork and all round confidence/cockiness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPTnonLfjME
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Roy Jones.
Looks flashy..and the flying hooks, flying uppercuts and triple hooks are out of a cartoon..in his prime he had no defense because his speed and reflexes were so unique they were his defense.
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Marvin Hagler. Great boxing skills backed up by murderous punching power, great stamina/endurance, cast iron chin, and a legit mean streak. Evander Holyfield, Mike McAllum, BHop, and James Toney are all right there also.
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I wouldn't want to have to depend on my chin to get me through, so although Hagler is a definite ATG, no Hagler for me. I'd go with Jones Jr., or a SRL, although Norris is a fabulous choice as well. Leonard is close to a TBE for me... so probably him. He fought the best and beat the best. He only got KO'd when he kept fighting beyond his years, as many have done. He was the consummate boxer, but could summon the power when needed. He also retired with all his faculties. ;D
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Leonard and Roy are great picks, and as usual Master makes a solid and for me the most interesting pick with Terry Norris. When I competed I was never blessed with the athleticism of those types of fighters, so I’ve always gravitated to the guys who had to make their way on toughness and work ethic. That being said, I love the beauty of, and am at times slightly jealous of, the things guys like Roy, Ray, and Terry can/could do in the ring.
Terry Norris is fascinating to me, because he was such a great boxer but at the same time was vulnerable due to his chin and fighters mentality. Much like Tommy Hearns, Terry was so damn fast and good that he could box circles around you, but the guy had a mean streak and craved the ko. He often would get himself in trouble only after he had the other guy ready to go.
I always wished Terry had gotten the Tito, JCC, Oscar...etc. fights like he wanted. Great fighter and interesting pick.
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You also made me think of Hagler.
What if he had the silver spoon treatment Leonard had? I know Hagler resented how Sugar Ray had the red carpet treatment whereas Marvin was a blue collar worker who had to fight hardest opponents out there just to get a title shot.
If Marvin had it easier he would have fought on for longer and held a title far earlier. Marvin was a beautiful boxer who had speed and skill and only relied on his chin later in his career to walk through his opponents.
Hagler may have been the ultimate ATG.
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Master
You also made me think of Hagler.
What if he had the silver spoon treatment Leonard had? I know Hagler resented how Sugar Ray had the red carpet treatment whereas Marvin was a blue collar worker who had to fight hardest opponents out there just to get a title shot.
If Marvin had it easier he would have fought on for longer and held a title far earlier. Marvin was a beautiful boxer who had speed and skill and only relied on his chin later in his career to walk through his opponents.
Hagler may have been the ultimate ATG.
Hagler was definitely a great boxer and had underrated speed. You make a great point about Marvin getting a shot earlier and the impact that would’ve had on his status/legacy. I wonder if Hagler didn’t need his experiences and disappointments though to fuel his fire and develop the skills and mindset that made him who he was. Basically, would he have been as great as he was without that giant chip on his shoulder...?
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Master
You also made me think of Hagler.
What if he had the silver spoon treatment Leonard had? I know Hagler resented how Sugar Ray had the red carpet treatment whereas Marvin was a blue collar worker who had to fight hardest opponents out there just to get a title shot.
If Marvin had it easier he would have fought on for longer and held a title far earlier. Marvin was a beautiful boxer who had speed and skill and only relied on his chin later in his career to walk through his opponents.
Hagler may have been the ultimate ATG.
Hagler was definitely a great boxer and had underrated speed. You make a great point about Marvin getting a shot earlier and the impact that would’ve had on his status/legacy. I wonder if Hagler didn’t need his experiences and disappointments though to fuel his fire and develop the skills and mindset that made him who he was. Basically, would he have been as great as he was without that giant chip on his shoulder...?
Good question but I think he would have been great but may have retired earlier with so much money in the bank.
The same question could be asked of your other favourite fighter B Hop. :)
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I'll always think Hagler must regret the way he fought the Leonard fight. It was mystifying to see someone with that kind of granite chin, decide not to just walk Leonard down and see whether Ray could trade shots with him. Granted, we're talking about one of the best, if not THE best of all time..... but Hagler had his opportunities. It's telling that this was his last fight in boxing. Blame the refs all you want, Marvin..... but you left a lot of things undone in there. He had to know better than that. Not taking any credit away from Leonard, who for me has absolutely one of the very best resumes in boxing history. But Hagler definitely must have wanted that one back as a "do over".
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TitoFan
I'll always think Hagler must regret the way he fought the Leonard fight. It was mystifying to see someone with that kind of granite chin, decide not to just walk Leonard down and see whether Ray could trade shots with him. Granted, we're talking about one of the best, if not THE best of all time..... but Hagler had his opportunities. It's telling that this was his last fight in boxing. Blame the refs all you want, Marvin..... but you left a lot of things undone in there. He had to know better than that. Not taking any credit away from Leonard, who for me has absolutely one of the very best resumes in boxing history. But Hagler definitely must have wanted that one back as a "do over".
I think Hagler's biggest mistake was fighting in an orthodox stance which he did for about 5 rounds.
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TitoFan
I'll always think Hagler must regret the way he fought the Leonard fight. It was mystifying to see someone with that kind of granite chin, decide not to just walk Leonard down and see whether Ray could trade shots with him. Granted, we're talking about one of the best, if not THE best of all time..... but Hagler had his opportunities. It's telling that this was his last fight in boxing. Blame the refs all you want, Marvin..... but you left a lot of things undone in there. He had to know better than that. Not taking any credit away from Leonard, who for me has absolutely one of the very best resumes in boxing history. But Hagler definitely must have wanted that one back as a "do over".
I think Hagler's biggest mistake was fighting in an orthodox stance which he did for about 5 rounds.
To my point. He never did that against anybody else. Why the "experimental pussy-footing" around against someone who's obviously going to get the nod from the judges if the fight is anywhere near close??
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Looking back at Hagler career he did lose some early fights which he later avenged but could he have lived with Jose Napoles, Rodrigo Valdes and Carlos Jonson in the mid to late 1970's?
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how about moves? there was a move michael spinks used to do a lot. instead of parrying a jab, he'd just jerk his head away, sort of off to the side from it, like this.
https://i.imgur.com/FIgiezG.gif
he explained in an interview that wherever he put his head is where he knew you'd put your jab. so since he already knew where your jab would go, since he was the one who put it there, all he had to do was move his head some place else. no trainer in the world will teach you that move. but when you think about it, its so simple, you'd do the same move if somebody threw something at your head without even thinking about it. thats why trainers dont want you to do it. because in the end if boxing is mostly just instincts, what do you need a trainer for?
heres another one. i love this move. willie pep did it all the time. heres willie pastrano doing it.
https://i.imgur.com/SGeKfU2.gif
when you're circling to your right you feel ok about his right hand since youre circling away from it. but when youre circling to your left, which you'll be doing most often, you'll get a little anxious about getting too close to his right hand. but if you get into your skip, and skip to your left as a southpaw, you create a lot of space from his right hand instead of feeling like youre circling right into it. a lot of guys have that problem. so what happens is they just stop and stand still or panic instead of continuing to turn him. i see that happen so much.
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Kirkland Laing
What happened to this guy..drink or drugs?
https://youtu.be/oY_1iNtpb1E
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Kirkland Laing must be drugs, all the talent but takes a lot of hard work and easier to take a spliff.
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Both. Boxing got in the way of his drink and drug intake for a few years but then he retired and dedicated himself to the life.
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Yuzo
how about moves? there was a move michael spinks used to do a lot. instead of parrying a jab, he'd just jerk his head away, sort of off to the side from it, like this.
https://i.imgur.com/FIgiezG.gif
he explained in an interview that wherever he put his head is where he knew you'd put your jab. so since he already knew where your jab would go, since he was the one who put it there, all he had to do was move his head some place else. no trainer in the world will teach you that move. but when you think about it, its so simple, you'd do the same move if somebody threw something at your head without even thinking about it. thats why trainers dont want you to do it. because in the end if boxing is mostly just instincts, what do you need a trainer for?
heres another one. i love this move. willie pep did it all the time. heres willie pastrano doing it.
https://i.imgur.com/SGeKfU2.gif
when you're circling to your right you feel ok about his right hand since youre circling away from it. but when youre circling to your left, which you'll be doing most often, you'll get a little anxious about getting too close to his right hand. but if you get into your skip, and skip to your left as a southpaw, you create a lot of space from his right hand instead of feeling like youre circling right into it. a lot of guys have that problem. so what happens is they just stop and stand still or panic instead of continuing to turn him. i see that happen so much.
Sorry meant to like your post, good stuff
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Yuzo
how about moves? there was a move michael spinks used to do a lot. instead of parrying a jab,
he'd just jerk his head away, sort of off to the side from it, like this.
https://i.imgur.com/FIgiezG.gif
he explained in an interview that wherever he put his head is where he knew you'd put your jab. so since he already knew where your jab would go, since he was the one who put it there, all he had to do was move his head some place else. no trainer in the world will teach you that move. but when you think about it, its so simple, you'd do the same move if somebody threw something at your head without even thinking about it. thats why trainers dont want you to do it. because in the end if boxing is mostly just instincts, what do you need a trainer for?
https://i.imgur.com/SGeKfU2.gif
Meldrick taylor used to do that too and followed it with a counter-jab. A nice move.
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goti71
Meldrick taylor used to do that too and followed it with a counter-jab. A nice move.
yeah thats right. and lots of other guys.
https://i.imgur.com/zvxSA9C.gif
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https://i.imgur.com/OVjuiMi.gif
https://i.imgur.com/kQzQa6o.gif
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theres lots of fancy things you can do to take a guys jab away. none easier or simpler than just craning your neck off to the side.
you'll recognize thats how floyd throws his pull counter. he has a special way of doing it. he'll lean in at you. that lets him shorten up your jab and place it exactly where he wants it to be.
thats what makes a guy slick. if you can use your head to place a guys punches to go where you want them to go, youre slick.
https://i.imgur.com/ks88nSk.gif
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Pryor, Hamed
No one wants windmills?
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Stevie ongen ferdinanduses
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Oh, I only read the second part of the question.
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I'll take Mike Tyson's style any day of the week. Make the most of it while you're young and retire undefeated.
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Loma, of course. Either that or I'd be a figure skater or ballet dancer. :o:o
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Walked into another look at Frankie Randall in first Chavez fight. Really liked that boxer puncher style. He was on point with long combinations early, tight inside work after Chavez storm and killer work rate. Randall epitomized the mentality of a confident aware fighter there.
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Spicoli
Walked into another look at Frankie Randall in first Chavez fight. Really liked that boxer puncher style. He was on point with long combinations early, tight inside work after Chavez storm and killer work rate. Randall epitomized the mentality of a confident aware fighter there.
Randall fought beautifully against Chavez both times, forgot how great those fights were. Two fighters at the top of their game.
