Floyd's chin

Everyone seems to think that Floyd can't take Zab's punches.

You're wrong. Omar Weiss don't have "D" like Floyd, or the chin. Did Zab KO him? No. Mickey Ward is a tough a**, but took all of Zab's shots. Gatti dropped Ward. Floyd didn't fall to Gatti's shot's. Castillo hit's as hard, and has at least as good of chin as Tszyu. Floyd took his shots, but it was Zab that couldn't take the punches.

I know, I know, Floyd is the best talent that won't fight anyone. But, picking Zab? Yes the ability is there. But, to act like Floyd can't take his shots? You people are ridiculous. That's right, you heard it here.
If Zab wins a decision, good for him. But, Floyd won't get KOd. He's not a pu**y like Spinks.

As simple as that. :coolclick:

Ummm. I don't see the PBF taking Gatti's shots being a very good argument. How many punches did he land? 2? Floyd must have hit him 30,000 times. The only time Gatti went down was when he was looking at the ref asking him if he saw the third Lord of the Rings.

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Originally Posted by Entragian

Ummm. I don't see the PBF taking Gatti's shots being a very good argument. How many punches did he land? 2? Floyd must have hit him 30,000 times. The only time Gatti went down was when he was looking at the ref asking him if he saw the third Lord of the Rings.

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The argument is a whole. Alot of people on this site seem to think that Floyd can't handle Zab's power. You're right, Gatti couldn't land because of Floyd's "D", and his punch output. But, the point is, Gatti did land, and Castillo landed, and alot of people. And everyone says Zab's power is too much for Floyd. Well, he don't hit much harder than Gatti, seeing is how, Gatti dropped Ward, and Zab didn't. Castillo hits at least as hard as Zab. corrales hits close to Zab. Why would anyone think that Zab can floor Floyd?

Corley wobbled him so there's still that slight question mark aint there?

Thing is with Floyd it doesn't matter at this stage in his career if his chin is in fact suspect...cos he's so fast that no one even gets near it anyway!!

bollocks gatti landed on floyd. nothing clean and nothing that would have droped any light welter at the time. dont try and make out that floyd can take a shot when he has never actually been hit clean. corrales didnt really conect, neither did gatt. zabs chin is in question because he has taken shots and it has been tested. with mayweather's chin its still unknown.

Corley hurt him badly. Real badly.

Maaan, I have not seen Floyd-Corley, I have PBF'S career but that fight does not work, was Floyd badly hurt?? Also, I agree with your argument unknowndonor but Castillo does not hit as hard as Tszyu,if you mean one punch power.

To be honest, Corley landed a pretty good shot on Floyd that basically stunned him. His legs didn't turn to rubber and he wasn't falling all over the place. He actually handled it quite well. I just think it was kind of a "oh shit" moment for Floyd. He just stiffened up and fell back. Corley didn't really have anything to finish it off. My point is, if Zab lands that same shot then he definitely follows it up. This fight is not a sure thing. Zab has a helluva shot IMO.

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/5473660

I suppose we will find out on sat!!!Unless of course Zab cant get close enough to land a good punch ;D

Yea bullshit Corley hurt him BADLY ::**... He hurt him like any fighter ever wobbles anyone, and it was a weird looping punch Floyd didn't see.. He actually recovered very quickly and went back to his corner smiling, then went on to deliver a beat down for 8 rounds never being bothered again.. don't make a big deal out of it anyone can be wobbled by a punch they don't see. Perhaps the best shot ever landed on Floyd was a left hook from Emanuel Augustus, at least imo and if you watch the replay his head snaps way back... And it didn't do shit. Castillo hit him with a couple good left hooks but his shoulder partially blocked the one that looked like it landed big imo, and he certainly never wobbled Floyd although he probably hits alot harder than Corle. But I don't agree with this thread either, Zab has legitimate power that could concern Floyd, if he is able to land.. That's the question, theres no doubt Zab will have the power to hurt Floyd if he can find a way to use it. Castillo does not hit as hard as Judah like you say, there's no way.. And Gatti, well maybe on a punch for punch basis but that's only when he wings his punches from miles away against mediocre fighters. PLus Zab fought Ward a long time before Gatti did, Micky was old by the time he fought Gatti and that was after their first fight that he was dropped in the 2nd or 3rd. Seriously, it would only take one great left hand from Judah, or an uppercut like Corley landed, and he could hurt PBF. But I don't see it happening.

Exactly. If Floyd can't knock Zab out we're in for a real treat. Zab is bound to land. He's more than fast enough. My real fear (being a Zab fan) is that Floyd has enough power to stun him repeatedly. If Zabs legs turn to rubber this fight is over. No way Floyd lets a moment like that pass.

I'm looking forward to this one, personally I think it could be one hell of a fight.

Judah Baldmoir has zero relevance to me, Judah was dreadful on the night but that wasn't the best of him by a long way.

If, and it really is an if, he can come in focused and mentally prepared then Judah could turn this into a war. My biggest concern with Judah is not his fitness or his chin, it's how he will cope mentally if he is hurt. We have seen against Tzsyu and more recently in that terrible 7th round with Baldomir that Judah tends to go crazy when he is hurt.

If he does that on Saturday night then it's fight over, but if he can keep a cool head he has a better chance of ending Mayweather's reign as best p4p than anybody.

I dont think its a matter of IF Floyd lands its when he lands. He is just to accurate with his shots, he does not go out there and just winging shots at people. He is very deliberate in what he throws and how he throws them. My biggest fear is that this will turn into a Hopkins/Taylor type of fight, where neither fighter wants to be the first to throw. Zab has said he is going to press the fight from the first bell. So it could turn into a good fight.

Ya never know if a boxer like Floyd has a chin or not coz he skillfully evades most shots pretty well. But that's exactly why he doesn't need a good chin in the first place - coz he simply doesn't get hit, unlike boxers like Barrera, Morales and Pacman who just go banging in and get hit and hit in return. In their case, it's the survivor of the fittest chin. But even for Floyd, having a good chin helps a lot too, like an extra insurance; who knows, maybe he does have one.

Floyd's chin was a bit sus, but even I think he could take the punches of a mere Welterweight. ;)

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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Everyone seems to think that Floyd can't take Zab's punches.

You're wrong. Omar Weiss don't have "D" like Floyd, or the chin. Did Zab KO him? No.

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that was after the 6 monts lost due to nady's incompetence

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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Everyone seems to think that Floyd can't take Zab's punches.

You're wrong. Omar Weiss don't have "D" like Floyd, or the chin. Did Zab KO him? No. Mickey Ward is a tough a**, but took all of Zab's shots. Gatti dropped Ward. Floyd didn't fall to Gatti's shot's. Castillo hit's as hard, and has at least as good of chin as Tszyu. Floyd took his shots, but it was Zab that couldn't take the punches.

I know, I know, Floyd is the best talent that won't fight anyone. But, picking Zab? Yes the ability is there. But, to act like Floyd can't take his shots? You people are ridiculous. That's right, you heard it here.
If Zab wins a decision, good for him. But, Floyd won't get KOd. He's not a pu**y like Spinks.

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Castillo doesn't hit all that hard... Floyd Mayweather dropped Corrales with less punches than Castillo... The thing that Castillo has is good stamina, and punishing punches, but in no way shape or form is Castillo a "knockout puncher" despite his record.

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Everyone seems to think that Floyd can't take Zab's punches.

You're wrong. Omar Weiss don't have "D" like Floyd, or the chin. Did Zab KO him? No.

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that was after the 6 monts lost due to nady's incompetence

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Incompetence? You can't tell me you'd let anyone else either than your beloved Zab fight if they did his dance when he got up... It looked like he just polished off a 26.

he WAS up again before the count would have even reached 5 i believe

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ85Xrm8X...=tszyu%20judah

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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Everyone seems to think that Floyd can't take Zab's punches.

You're wrong. Omar Weiss don't have "D" like Floyd, or the chin. Did Zab KO him? No. Mickey Ward is a tough a**, but took all of Zab's shots. Gatti dropped Ward. Floyd didn't fall to Gatti's shot's. Castillo hit's as hard, and has at least as good of chin as Tszyu. Floyd took his shots, but it was Zab that couldn't take the punches.

I know, I know, Floyd is the best talent that won't fight anyone. But, picking Zab? Yes the ability is there. But, to act like Floyd can't take his shots? You people are ridiculous. That's right, you heard it here.
If Zab wins a decision, good for him. But, Floyd won't get KOd. He's not a pu**y like Spinks.

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Castillo doesn't hit all that hard... Floyd Mayweather dropped Corrales with less punches than Castillo... The thing that Castillo has is good stamina, and punishing punches, but in no way shape or form is Castillo a "knockout puncher" despite his record.

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Do you think Zab would beat Castillo? Or would Castillo KO him?

Castillo would definitely ko Zab, but thats not the point I'm trying to make... What I am saying is Castillo doesn't hit as hard as Tszyu... not even close IMO. As for Sal are you trying to condemn yourself or what? Your clip proves my point.. he was in no shape to continue... Nady made the right move.

castillio had trouble landing headshots on PBF, he wouldnt KO judah with body shots, judah would win by decision

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

castillio had trouble landing headshots on PBF, he wouldnt KO judah with body shots, judah would win by decision

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:lol: Castillo hits as hard as Ward, and is more relentless. Ward dropped Zab with a body shot. Castillo had trouble landing head shots, because Floyd has "D", Zab's is questionable.

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

castillio had trouble landing headshots on PBF, he wouldnt KO judah with body shots, judah would win by decision

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Tszyu diddn't have trouble landing head shots on Zab in the second round... he figured him out in one round. Castillo could fight Zab completely then how he fought PBF just because Zab has no inside skills... He just hopes to overwhelm with speed ,but Castillo doesn't let opponents get off combinations if he doens't want them to(like he did against Mayweather).

whatever...

saturday is fast approaching :)

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

whatever...

saturday is fast approaching :)

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I left a thread for you last night during the fights, you were offline, and it got pushed back to the 2nd page.

Thread title is=For Sal The Butcher

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

whatever...

saturday is fast approaching :)

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I left a thread for you last night during the fights, you were offline, and it got pushed back to the 2nd page.

Thread title is=For Sal The Butcher

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i think i WAS offline during the fights, but my name ALLWAYS says offline,

i utilize the hidden option because i am like a ninja 8)

floyd's chin is just amazing, i'm sure i could run up to floyd from the other side of the room and hit him square in the chops as hard as i can and he would just laugh, and then hit me back about 375 times in a second, yeah thats right 1 SECOND. and yes that was sarcastic. floyd at the moment is looking good, but i'm gonna coompare this situation with the one we had with roy jones jr not so long ago, oh i remember it like it was yesterday. everyone thought jones was looking amazing when he was on form, untill he actually got hit clean and got knocked clean out (TWICE). it was a shock cos we hadn't really seen him hit properly or in trouble. my point is this can happen and the two situations are not a whole lot different.

Mayweather has a pretty solid beard. Good two fisted power,and blinding speed.C'mon Hatton or Margarito.