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What if Povetkin pulls off the upset?
AJ's the heavy favorite but....... what happens if Povetkin pulls off the upset?
What effect, if any, would this have on the scheduled Wilder-Fury fight? Would it still go off as scheduled?
Is there a rematch clause in the AJ-Povetkin contract?
This may all be acadamic, as AJ may very well polish off Povetkin within the distance. But boxing is the theater of the unexpected.
Let's say Povetkin pulls off the huge upset, and by knockout no less. He gets all of AJ's belts. My assumption is there is a rematch clause and AJ will want a shot at getting his belts back. But would any of this have an effect on Fury and Wilder? I'm hoping the fight goes off as scheduled in December, with no shenanigans from either side. HW has been too littered with bum calves, split eyelids, and other mysterious reasons as to why championship fights need to be postponed. But let's continue the assumption and say the fight occurs. Would Povetkin's upset further motivate both fighters, thinking they have more of a chance to get those belts from Povetkin than they would from AJ? Would it motivate one more than the other? Who knows. The heavyweight division is more of a soap opera than any of the other divisions put together.
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Warren has scheduled the Press Conference to announce The Fury/Wilder fight for Monday. He says to avoid the Matchroom Joshua/Povetikin promo stuff but I think the stall has something to do with the outcome of that fight.
If Povetkin wins all bets are off. I think he is more likely to end up unconscious on his back but he cannot be written off. For a smaller heavyweight he is dangerous for all 12 rounds.
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If Povetkin wins at all I'd imagine an immediate rematch or if AJ is badly KO-ed then I'd imagine there would be talks with Wilder and or Fury.
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If Povetkin pulls off the upset, the look on Eddie's face will be a golden moment.
Wilder-Fury should still go ahead but both would fancy their chances against Povetkin.
There should be a rematch clause in the AJ-Povetkin contract as Eddie will cover all his bases. So Fury v wilder will happen
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There will undoubtedly be a rematch clause.
Despite being a multiple drug cheat, Povetkin has always been a decent fighter .... but he is too small, too slow and too old to beat Joshua in the UK. Walking forward and trying to fight up close (which is Povetkins only tactic, ever) is a recipe for disaster against a bigger, taller, stronger fighter who controls distance well.
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What does it say about AJ/Povetkin that people care more about how it affects Wilder/Fury than anything else about the fight? Hahaha, Eddie, tell me again how Wilder will face Breazeale
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I'd actually like to see AJ get beat, if he got beat and then worked his way back to the top and won back the belts then it could go a long way towards getting rid of this stigma of the all important 0
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Yea delaying the Wilder/Fury announcement until after the AJ fight seems like a ploy to wait on the outcome.
Hearn probably has Povetkin tied to a rematch clause but it will turn all the attention to the Wilder/Fury fight to see who emerges as the winner and the new #1 heavyweight.
I don't think many would rank Povetkin #1 if he wins.
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Alpha
Yea delaying the Wilder/Fury announcement until after the AJ fight seems like a ploy to wait on the outcome.
Hearn probably has Povetkin tied to a rematch clause but it will turn all the attention to the Wilder/Fury fight to see who emerges as the winner and the new #1 heavyweight.
I don't think many would rank Povetkin #1 if he wins.
I don't think there's a true #1 in the division right now....AJ, Wilder, Fury all have claim to be the best. They need to all fight each other.
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Wlad will come back and whip them all
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El Kabong
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Alpha
Yea delaying the Wilder/Fury announcement until after the AJ fight seems like a ploy to wait on the outcome.
Hearn probably has Povetkin tied to a rematch clause but it will turn all the attention to the Wilder/Fury fight to see who emerges as the winner and the new #1 heavyweight.
I don't think many would rank Povetkin #1 if he wins.
I don't think there's a true #1 in the division right now....AJ, Wilder, Fury all have claim to be the best. They need to all fight each other.
You're right, and there aren't many fighters considered the true #1 in most divisions.
Agree that they all need to fight.
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Ron Swanson
What does it say about AJ/Povetkin that people care more about how it affects Wilder/Fury than anything else about the fight? Hahaha, Eddie, tell me again how Wilder will face Breazeale
I think that says more about some fans than the fight. The AJ/Povetkin mandatory is happening while the Fury/Wider fight has not even been announced. If it were not for Fury, Wilder could well be fighting Breazeale. HaHaHa
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If Povetkin did win, why shouldn’t he be seen as #1? If he were to win, because of his age, it won’t shake up the division for too long. But it does put a massive dent in the Matchroom/Sky/AJ Hype bandwagon.
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Primo Carnera
If Povetkin did win, why shouldn’t he be seen as #1? If he were to win, because of his age, it won’t shake up the division for too long. But it does put a massive dent in the Matchroom/Sky/AJ Hype bandwagon.
I'm not sure many would rank him over Wilder, although the argument could be justified.
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I would probably just chuckle randomly throughout the day. As for Povetkin, a scrap with Wilder would be next. He wouldn't run away and make any excuses.
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AJ isn't going to get the credit he deserves for winning because Povetkin is overshadowed by the two big mouths Wilder and Fury, even though in reality Povetkin is at the very least the equal of those two, possibly even a more dangerous style for AJ, who struggled several times in the amateurs with fundamentally rock solid stocky Eastern Europeans.
Should AJ lose he'll get unjustly slaughtered by all the muppets who'll claim they said all along Wilder and Fury would have ruined him (that's the common logic of div boxing fans).
Povetkin winnning pays a massive compliment to the Wlad era.
Povetkin winning will earn me a good few bob too.
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Povetkin has no chance of winning.
Joshua-Povetkin will be very much like Hrgovic-Mansour: young bigger guy in his home country facing an old smaller guy.
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Fenster
AJ isn't going to get the credit he deserves for winning because Povetkin is overshadowed by the two big mouths Wilder and Fury, even though in reality Povetkin is at the very least the equal of those two, possibly even a more dangerous style for AJ, who struggled several times in the amateurs with fundamentally rock solid stocky Eastern Europeans.
Should AJ lose he'll get unjustly slaughtered by all the muppets who'll claim they said all along Wilder and Fury would have ruined him (that's the common logic of div boxing fans).
Povetkin winnning pays a massive compliment to the Wlad era.
Povetkin winning will earn me a good few bob too.
It's a bit of a long shot though isn't it? At 38 very few HW's are able to sustain anything impressive, especially a smaller swarmer kind of fighter. Povetkin is good, but probably akin to how GGG would be at 38 fighting the best at SMW. It's a bit of a stretch at that age with that style. That's one reason why I think it would be quite funny. I always egg on the underdog.
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If that happens then I'm going to frame the look on Eddie Hearn's face and hang it in the living room.
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Gandalf
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Fenster
AJ isn't going to get the credit he deserves for winning because Povetkin is overshadowed by the two big mouths Wilder and Fury, even though in reality Povetkin is at the very least the equal of those two, possibly even a more dangerous style for AJ, who struggled several times in the amateurs with fundamentally rock solid stocky Eastern Europeans.
Should AJ lose he'll get unjustly slaughtered by all the muppets who'll claim they said all along Wilder and Fury would have ruined him (that's the common logic of div boxing fans).
Povetkin winnning pays a massive compliment to the Wlad era.
Povetkin winning will earn me a good few bob too.
It's a bit of a long shot though isn't it? At 38 very few HW's are able to sustain anything impressive, especially a smaller swarmer kind of fighter. Povetkin is good, but probably akin to how GGG would be at 38 fighting the best at SMW. It's a bit of a stretch at that age with that style. That's one reason why I think it would be quite funny. I always egg on the underdog.
I think Povetkin would iron Wilder out everyday of the week, however, granted he's getting on a bit and it will be disappointing if Joshua can't use his size and youth.
Ignoring the Russian meat there's a reason Povetkin is an Olympic/World amateur champion and only ever lost once in the paid ranks.
The only reason people are not hyped for this fight is Povetkin isn't a trash talker. Skills don't sell fights big mouths do.
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Gandalf
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Fenster
AJ isn't going to get the credit he deserves for winning because Povetkin is overshadowed by the two big mouths Wilder and Fury, even though in reality Povetkin is at the very least the equal of those two, possibly even a more dangerous style for AJ, who struggled several times in the amateurs with fundamentally rock solid stocky Eastern Europeans.
Should AJ lose he'll get unjustly slaughtered by all the muppets who'll claim they said all along Wilder and Fury would have ruined him (that's the common logic of div boxing fans).
Povetkin winnning pays a massive compliment to the Wlad era.
Povetkin winning will earn me a good few bob too.
It's a bit of a long shot though isn't it? At 38 very few HW's are able to sustain anything impressive, especially a smaller swarmer kind of fighter. Povetkin is good, but probably akin to how GGG would be at 38 fighting the best at SMW. It's a bit of a stretch at that age with that style. That's one reason why I think it would be quite funny. I always egg on the underdog.
It is a bit of a long shot, but possible. It’s easier for a 38 year old HW to retain his strong points than it is for a MW or SMW. A HW pressure fighter doesn’t have to retain as much mobility as a MW.
And they do say the last thing you lose is your power.
One punch changes everything in the heavies.
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I can't find anything better than 8-1 odds for a Povetkin KO win.
He was 14-1 about 3-4 weeks ago.
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smashup
I can't find anything better than 8-1 odds for a Povetkin KO win.
He was 14-1 about 3-4 weeks ago.
I'm having a fiver on :
Campbell - points
Okolie - ko
Pov- ko
£5 gets a return of £148
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Primo Carnera
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Gandalf
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Fenster
AJ isn't going to get the credit he deserves for winning because Povetkin is overshadowed by the two big mouths Wilder and Fury, even though in reality Povetkin is at the very least the equal of those two, possibly even a more dangerous style for AJ, who struggled several times in the amateurs with fundamentally rock solid stocky Eastern Europeans.
Should AJ lose he'll get unjustly slaughtered by all the muppets who'll claim they said all along Wilder and Fury would have ruined him (that's the common logic of div boxing fans).
Povetkin winnning pays a massive compliment to the Wlad era.
Povetkin winning will earn me a good few bob too.
It's a bit of a long shot though isn't it? At 38 very few HW's are able to sustain anything impressive, especially a smaller swarmer kind of fighter. Povetkin is good, but probably akin to how GGG would be at 38 fighting the best at SMW. It's a bit of a stretch at that age with that style. That's one reason why I think it would be quite funny. I always egg on the underdog.
It is a bit of a long shot, but possible. It’s easier for a 38 year old HW to retain his strong points than it is for a MW or SMW. A HW pressure fighter doesn’t have to retain as much mobility as a MW.
And they do say the last thing you lose is your power.
One punch changes everything in the heavies.
just takes 1 punch and as old as Povetkin is, you're right the last thing you lose is power. Let's see how cautious Joshua starts. If he hurts POV like Klitschko did he's got the youth to finish it.
