Looks like Garcia will take the mandatory. The good thing about this is that it means that Garcia is serious about making a Loma fight.
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Looks like Garcia will take the mandatory. The good thing about this is that it means that Garcia is serious about making a Loma fight.
I'm good with this, if it leads to the Loma unification.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI'm good with this, if it leads to the Loma unification.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Hope it gets done without this waiting years BS that has become a thing with top fighters.
There was never any reason to question Garcia wanting Loma, the only question was will Bob allow it. Glad to see this fight being made, step on throats Mikey.
And may the best fighter between Garcia/Loma win, the fans win either way.
I never questioned whether or not Garcia wanted the fight. I just questioned if he thought it was worth the hassle to have to fight with Bob for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Alright alright this is a step in the right direction for Garcia who has honestly been a bit all over the place. But this is an indicator on target Loma as well as fulfilling a credible mandatory defense.
Commey is a very solid fighter. No shame in this fight, especially as it's a mandatory and keeps Mikey at 135.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
The problem now is the WBC ordering Campbell as Garcia's mandatory.
The WBC ordering the mandatory is no hindrance unless someone wants it to be a hindrance like AJ using it to avoid Wilder before this time he used fake negotiation.
If Arum wants the fight to happen it will happen, if Arum doesn’t it won’t. There really is no other factor
There's more to it than that, and at the end of the day, it takes 2 to tango. Mikey needs to forget everyone else (Spence), defend the title, while saying he wants to unify the division. Loma is already talking that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
The fight is big either way, but without the WBC title involved, it takes some of the shine off.
The WBC is not going to strip someone headed to PPV(whoever wins between Mikey and Loma becomes a regular PPV fighter) to hand it to be fought in a vacancy fight between people making a fraction and thus paying a fraction in fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaThere's more to it than that, and at the end of the day, it takes 2 to tango. Mikey needs to forget everyone else (Spence), defend the title, while saying he wants to unify the division. Loma is already talking that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
The fight is big either way, but without the WBC title involved, it takes some of the shine off.
Garcia/Loma is simple to make because Garcia/Loma call the shots in and around their weight class. Seriously, if Bob wants the fight nothing stops it from happening
I would hope they don't strip Garcia but I have no faith in the sanctioning bodies. Hopefully they make Campbell vs TBA for an interim title or something like that, to allow a full unification bout to take place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonThe WBC is not going to strip someone headed to PPV(whoever wins between Mikey and Loma becomes a regular PPV fighter) to hand it to be fought in a vacancy fight between people making a fraction and thus paying a fraction in fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaThere's more to it than that, and at the end of the day, it takes 2 to tango. Mikey needs to forget everyone else (Spence), defend the title, while saying he wants to unify the division. Loma is already talking that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
The fight is big either way, but without the WBC title involved, it takes some of the shine off.
Garcia/Loma is simple to make because Garcia/Loma call the shots in and around their weight class. Seriously, if Bob wants the fight nothing stops it from happening
As much as I like unification the belts are just belts. Garcia and Loma are beyond them at LW IMO. If they were stripped of all belts to make I would still want it. 2 guys the same size at the same time and same age at the top of their division, that’s my kind of party.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI would hope they don't strip Garcia but I have no faith in the sanctioning bodies. Hopefully they make Campbell vs TBA for an interim title or something like that, to allow a full unification bout to take place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonThe WBC is not going to strip someone headed to PPV(whoever wins between Mikey and Loma becomes a regular PPV fighter) to hand it to be fought in a vacancy fight between people making a fraction and thus paying a fraction in fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaThere's more to it than that, and at the end of the day, it takes 2 to tango. Mikey needs to forget everyone else (Spence), defend the title, while saying he wants to unify the division. Loma is already talking that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
The fight is big either way, but without the WBC title involved, it takes some of the shine off.
Garcia/Loma is simple to make because Garcia/Loma call the shots in and around their weight class. Seriously, if Bob wants the fight nothing stops it from happening
I agree, the belts are insignificant here, but like I said, it takes the shine (possibly even money) of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonAs much as I like unification the belts are just belts. Garcia and Loma are beyond them at LW IMO. If they were stripped of all belts to make I would still want it. 2 guys the same size at the same time and same age at the top of their division, that’s my kind of party.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI would hope they don't strip Garcia but I have no faith in the sanctioning bodies. Hopefully they make Campbell vs TBA for an interim title or something like that, to allow a full unification bout to take place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonThe WBC is not going to strip someone headed to PPV(whoever wins between Mikey and Loma becomes a regular PPV fighter) to hand it to be fought in a vacancy fight between people making a fraction and thus paying a fraction in fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaThere's more to it than that, and at the end of the day, it takes 2 to tango. Mikey needs to forget everyone else (Spence), defend the title, while saying he wants to unify the division. Loma is already talking that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
The fight is big either way, but without the WBC title involved, it takes some of the shine off.
Garcia/Loma is simple to make because Garcia/Loma call the shots in and around their weight class. Seriously, if Bob wants the fight nothing stops it from happening
Lots of forward motion by then with Loma very likely to have Pedrazas tin by then and should Garcia shine v Commey he'll have then beaten wbc #2 and all the pieces align for a super fight fans require. I can't see Garcia jumping through hoops to face Campbell if a Loma match is even closer and I don't put anything past the wbc be it strip or Mikey dropping the trinket to grab real legacy. Belts are temporary and shouldn't be treated like anchors.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaCommey is a very solid fighter. No shame in this fight, especially as it's a mandatory and keeps Mikey at 135.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
The problem now is the WBC ordering Campbell as Garcia's mandatory.
Cheap shot at AJ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliLots of forward motion by then with Loma very likely to have Pedrazas tin by then and should Garcia shine v Commey he'll have then beaten wbc #2 and all the pieces align for a super fight fans require. I can't see Garcia jumping through hoops to face Campbell if a Loma match is even closer and I don't put anything past the wbc be it strip or Mikey dropping the trinket to grab real legacy. Belts are temporary and shouldn't be treated like anchors.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaCommey is a very solid fighter. No shame in this fight, especially as it's a mandatory and keeps Mikey at 135.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
The problem now is the WBC ordering Campbell as Garcia's mandatory.
Say huh ???. Not as cheap as trying to take one at AJ in a conversation he's not involved in ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonCheap shot at AJ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliLots of forward motion by then with Loma very likely to have Pedrazas tin by then and should Garcia shine v Commey he'll have then beaten wbc #2 and all the pieces align for a super fight fans require. I can't see Garcia jumping through hoops to face Campbell if a Loma match is even closer and I don't put anything past the wbc be it strip or Mikey dropping the trinket to grab real legacy. Belts are temporary and shouldn't be treated like anchors.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaCommey is a very solid fighter. No shame in this fight, especially as it's a mandatory and keeps Mikey at 135.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
The problem now is the WBC ordering Campbell as Garcia's mandatory.
HahaQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSay huh ???. Not as cheap as trying to take one at AJ in a conversation he's not involved in ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonCheap shot at AJ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliLots of forward motion by then with Loma very likely to have Pedrazas tin by then and should Garcia shine v Commey he'll have then beaten wbc #2 and all the pieces align for a super fight fans require. I can't see Garcia jumping through hoops to face Campbell if a Loma match is even closer and I don't put anything past the wbc be it strip or Mikey dropping the trinket to grab real legacy. Belts are temporary and shouldn't be treated like anchors.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaCommey is a very solid fighter. No shame in this fight, especially as it's a mandatory and keeps Mikey at 135.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
The problem now is the WBC ordering Campbell as Garcia's mandatory.