They both have crap resumes apart from Ortiz and Wlad.
Can Wilder knock out Fury?
I will be very shocked if he can.
Fury is just a better boxer and he won’t let Wilder anywhere near him.
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They both have crap resumes apart from Ortiz and Wlad.
Can Wilder knock out Fury?
I will be very shocked if he can.
Fury is just a better boxer and he won’t let Wilder anywhere near him.
Maybe that was the truth if it was the Tyson Fury 3 years ago when he fought Wlad but this version will tire and get stopped mid way into the fight.
Tyson Fury will never get knocked out ever
I am sure Wilder can land a right hand like Cunningham did.
As Master says the Fury of 3 years ago I would put my house on to win this by lopsided UD - maybe even late stoppage as his size drains Wilder.
This version of Fury I'm not so sure
Tyson KO 8
I think Fury will do well early on. But Wilder is a cold shark like athlete. He will launch his attacks when the seal is in position and that is one seriously big blubbery seal. Once the blubber is torn the seal is to be consumed in a bloody rampage.
Tyson Fury is not a seal Tyson Fury is an eel
Way too slippery for an off-balance windmill swinging amateur
Tell that to Calzaghe, Don Quixote!
Would love to see this fight with George Foreman commentating. Wilder down 11 rounds, George hollers, yeah but it only takes one shot with the big boys.;D
Casual :pQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
To my mind Fury points is the best bet, BUT....
How will US judges score Wilders Wildly (excuse the pun) missing airshots against Tysons jab? How will they penalise Tyson for grabbing, holding, fouling and making the fight a stinker?
My opinion now is to save your betting money, there is no way US judges will let Tyson take that title away from the US after a scrappy fight.
It will however be controversial and guarantee a rematch, thus freezing out AJ for another few months.
Sorry to sit on the fence
Totally agree Tyson on points. Wilder just cannot box at all to save his life
Charlie zelenoff got in 2 body shots in that gym War they had
Hang on a minute. Up till now , Fury was gonna KO Wilder in 7?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Either fury or wilder will win on points, one of them will win by stoppage, it will end on a cut, be a draw, or one of them will get disqualified. Brock and I are pooling together our life savings to bet on it, we have an inside source who works security at the Barclays centre.
This seal is a much better swimmer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
This seal is a Leopard seal.
The blubber will help fury deflect the weak jabs and average movement from Wilder..Fury will drag the polar bear deep to serious depths where the pain and stress of global warming and no easy prey has diminished his skills to climb above the water level for that extra gasp of air.
Fury via easy decision.
Imp is correct. Primo carnera and pound-for-pound King have about 75% of the story straight. I have been very clear that Tyson Fury will knockout Deontay Wilder in the seventh front with a tremendous uppercut. I'm not going to say how tremendous because I could get in trouble again like when I first mentioned it last month about the force of that uppercut from the Giant. just now when I said easy decision on points I was only saying it to show that that is the very least that will happen at the very least it will be a decision on points but that that is if Fury somehow misses that uppercut in the 7th round which he will not miss but if he misses it then pound-for-pound King and Primo carnera are all pulling together I'll money to bet on one of those two outcomes either points easy decision on points for Tyson Fury or stone cold uppercut from hell and the 7th round ending Deontay Wilder
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Originally Posted by p4pking
You can do that..... and Brock will STILL get it wrong.
Tyson Fury NC {no contest} round 7Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
You can do that..... and Brock will STILL get it wrong.
Hahah I forgot no contest too. Maybe Tyson has been eating more boar meat, that’s actually not a highly unlikely outcome even if Brock’s original pick comes true:p
I can see a scenario where he dirty boxes Wilder makes it ugly but effective. But at some point Wilders speed will catch up, Tyson will get nailed and try to bluff through but he'll get caught. Can't see Wilder letting it go 12, be himself clumsily draped over the rope being waved off or yelling like a lunatic after he sleeps Tyson.
Ók, let me get this straight. You want to bet either of your 2 scenarios against 2 scenarios of mine? Or do you want to bet your 2 scenarios against any other scenarios?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Either way , I’m happy to take the bet, just let me know .
Another reason I give the edge to Wilder, this one probably not shared by many though...... fight plan preparation.
From Fury's side, what's he gonna do? He's already a better boxer than Wilder. He knows Wilder can be wild. He knows about the punching power. Fury will be Fury. He'll try to confound Wilder with his awkwardness, making the fight ugly, trying to avoid the bombs. Does he have something special in store for Wilder that Wilder hasn't already seen on tape, if his team is doing its homework? No.
How 'bout Wilder? Does anyone really think Wilder's team is going to just let him go out there and throw his "windmills" at someone who will be as unorthodox as any Wilder has faced? That the possibility that Wilder is getting ready for a different fight hasn't been incorporated into the fight plan by now? Wilder himself must know he's not going in there against someone who's going to trade with him. Sure, there are things that are ingrained in Wilder's boxing nature. Tiger ain't going to change his stripes. But my point is Wilder has more to gain by preparing for Fury than the other way around.
It's a bit of a strange way of thinking.... but IMO it's possible.
Head games I throw out the window. Wilder has looked like a terrible trash-talker next to Fury, but believe me that will have ZERO bearing on the fight.
Sugar Ray Leonard defeated Marvin Hagler by using head games. Muhammad Ali defeated George Foreman by using head games. Tyson Fury defeated Wladimir Klitschko by using head games.
breaking news from one of my security guard Friends at Barclays Center in Brooklyn. Tyson Fury is going to eat contaminated meat and takes his urine test right before the fight he will not be allowed into the ring. They will be a double controversy to try to balance it out and Wilder will get caught using some kind of substance inside of his gloves either that or on the hand wraps. They will be a big brawl outside the ring maybe in one of the dressing rooms someone will get severely injured. The police will be called in. This is going to be more of a scene than Tyson Holyfield 2 @TitoFan @p4pking @Alpha @Primo CarneraQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
this is serious the security guard has been working at Barclays Center since 1993 and he has a lot of inside knowledge because since he is in with the security crowd in Vegas as well as in New York he has a lot of very high confidential connections with the security guards and of course they have to orchestrate something and be ready for a pre-planned kind of false flag event and this is going to be really big he said
But that's ok. We all know Y.D.K.S.A.B.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustbreaking news from one of my security guard Friends at Barclays Center in Brooklyn. Tyson Fury is going to eat contaminated meat and takes his urine test right before the fight he will not be allowed into the ring. They will be a double controversy to try to balance it out and Wilder will get caught using some kind of substance inside of his gloves either that or on the hand wraps. They will be a big brawl outside the ring maybe in one of the dressing rooms someone will get severely injured. The police will be called in. This is going to be more of a scene than Tyson Holyfield 2 @TitoFan @p4pking @Alpha @Primo CarneraQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
this is serious the security guard has been working at Barclays Center since 1993 and he has a lot of inside knowledge because since he is in with the security crowd in Vegas as well as in New York he has a lot of very high confidential connections with the security guards and of course they have to orchestrate something and be ready for a pre-planned kind of false flag event and this is going to be really big he said
Stick to threads about shit and anuses.
Goddam Tito, WTF, how is one out of three so bad?
Plus furthermore, wait for it,.....
H.D.L.G.F.P.
Just making my point that the other two weren't due to head games and, furthermore.... just 'cause Fury psyched out Timid Wlad doesn't mean he'll automatically do the same to Wilder.
If he beats him he beats him..... fine. It won't be because Wilder cowers and throws 4 punches a round.
okay I'm actually going to be middle of the road on this maybe I learned it from you ;-) but 50% now I have to agree with you that all the trash talkin and all the psyching out probably goes mostly out the window at the opening bell and the butterflies in the stomach and you throw a couple of punches and you use a little footwork and you get hit with a shot or two and it's just probably right back to business and boxing Basics and there are hardly anything probably left over in your mind about the side jobs and the trash talks
but on the other hand Tito you have to remember that in the ring they can also say stuff to each other like Ali used to do whisper stuff in people's ears and say stuff while you're hitting him but after he hits you you say is that all you got etc etc the trash talk and doesn't stop at the opening bell and neither does the psych job. Do you remember the faces that Tyson Fury was making all night long in the ring against Klitschko. You could see it visibly get under Klitschko skin round by round so yes it's still occurs during the fight as well
Also quit posting in the boxing thread Tito and stick to your specialty which is beef and beef and more beef you know the tainted kind 😎😋
Well.... Fury is very likely to shake his head at Wilder like Benavidez was doing last night against Crawford, in the classic "you can't hurt me" taunt. (We all know how THAT turned out). And who knows..... Wilder might let that get him mad and a bit out of control. But it won't be fear nor hesitance. Out of control rage is more like it. But Wilder's corner, if worth anything at all, should prepare him for that. Fury will continue to shake his head until Wilder floors him with a right and then he'll probably say.... "Damn..... this ain't no Cunningham."
So , how we gonna do this bet , Mr. Super BBB? Come on now, don’t getting cold feet on me, what’s it gonna be? How’s this bet gonna work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraÓk, let me get this straight. You want to bet either of your 2 scenarios against 2 scenarios of mine? Or do you want to bet your 2 scenarios against any other scenarios?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Either way , I’m happy to take the bet, just let me know .
for starters the bet has to be that I say Tyson Fury wins and I guess you will be supporting Wilder to get the win? Let's start thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo , how we gonna do this bet , Mr. Super BBB? Come on now, don’t getting cold feet on me, what’s it gonna be? How’s this bet gonna work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraÓk, let me get this straight. You want to bet either of your 2 scenarios against 2 scenarios of mine? Or do you want to bet your 2 scenarios against any other scenarios?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Either way , I’m happy to take the bet, just let me know .
Well for starters the bet has to say that you say Tyson Fury wins “in round 7 from a stone cold uppercut from hell” or an “easy decision on points” and for the avoidance of doubt , I would say “easy” is 6 Clear rounds on each judges scorecard. Once we get that established, I’ll make my picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustfor starters the bet has to be that I say Tyson Fury wins and I guess you will be supporting Wilder to get the win? Let's start thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo , how we gonna do this bet , Mr. Super BBB? Come on now, don’t getting cold feet on me, what’s it gonna be? How’s this bet gonna work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraÓk, let me get this straight. You want to bet either of your 2 scenarios against 2 scenarios of mine? Or do you want to bet your 2 scenarios against any other scenarios?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Either way , I’m happy to take the bet, just let me know .
I can say that Tyson Fury wins in round 7 from an uppercut but it doesn't have to be a stone-cold uppercut and it doesn't have to be from hell but just from a regular uppercut. Will you at least agree to that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell for starters the bet has to say that you say Tyson Fury wins “in round 7 from a stone cold uppercut from hell” or an “easy decision on points” and for the avoidance of doubt , I would say “easy” is 6 Clear rounds on each judges scorecard. Once we get that established, I’ll make my picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustfor starters the bet has to be that I say Tyson Fury wins and I guess you will be supporting Wilder to get the win? Let's start thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo , how we gonna do this bet , Mr. Super BBB? Come on now, don’t getting cold feet on me, what’s it gonna be? How’s this bet gonna work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraÓk, let me get this straight. You want to bet either of your 2 scenarios against 2 scenarios of mine? Or do you want to bet your 2 scenarios against any other scenarios?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Either way , I’m happy to take the bet, just let me know .
I can also agree to an easy decision on points but I don't agree to your definition of easy many six rounds as that would just be a split decision
1. Yes I will concede and agree to that.
2. What do you class as an easy points decision?
1. I'm not backing out of this but if it's not an uppercut but rather some type of a hook or straight right hand we will have to count that as well and I will pick the 7th round but you have to give me plus or minus one around there meaning it could happen anywhere from the 6th to the 8thQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
2. Well I call an easy points decision at the very least something like all three judges and or unanimous or at least two of the three judges scoring at the very least for Tyson Fury 115-112
Quack Quack! :chick07mj8:
So, I’m guessing you’ve changed your mind then ? #bottlejobQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust1. I'm not backing out of this but if it's not an uppercut but rather some type of a hook or straight right hand we will have to count that as well and I will pick the 7th round but you have to give me plus or minus one around there meaning it could happen anywhere from the 6th to the 8thQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
2. Well I call an easy points decision at the very least something like all three judges and or unanimous or at least two of the three judges scoring at the very least for Tyson Fury 115-112
Lets make it easy and just say who they think will win. I'm guessing you are both taking opposite sides?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo, I’m guessing you’ve changed your mind then ? #bottlejobQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust1. I'm not backing out of this but if it's not an uppercut but rather some type of a hook or straight right hand we will have to count that as well and I will pick the 7th round but you have to give me plus or minus one around there meaning it could happen anywhere from the 6th to the 8thQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
2. Well I call an easy points decision at the very least something like all three judges and or unanimous or at least two of the three judges scoring at the very least for Tyson Fury 115-112
Can we get a poll on one of these threads to see what the general thinking of the forum is?