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Gennady Golovkin’s next fight: Ryota Murata named as frontrunner for Japan bout
GGG will likely return to the ring between March and May 2019
Japanese middleweight Ryota Murata has emerged as an unlikely frontrunner for Gennady Golovkin’s next fight.
The former unified middleweight king suffered the first defeat of his career by close, majority decision to Canelo Alvarez in September, and the pair will go their separate ways for the time being.
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With Canelo now set to fight Rocky Fielding in December and signed exclusively to fledgling US streaming service DAZN, GGG’s team are instead looking at potential alternative opponents for his next bout.
His promoter Tom Loeffler told ESPN: “Murata fights this weekend and he is a very attractive option if he beats Rob Brant. That fight seems like it is very makeable.
“Gennady has always enjoyed fighting internationally.
“We know what GGG brings to the table and Murata brings monster ratings in Japan and he is very popular.
“I would say he has distinguished himself as the frontrunner if he can win on Saturday night.”
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Murata is a London 2012 Olympic gold medallist who has risen to become WBA ‘regular’ middleweight champion as a professional.
He has a record of 14-1 and avenged his sole defeat (which was widely considered a robbery) by knockout.
The proposed fight would take place at the Tokyo Dome in Murata’s native Japan – the same arena in which Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson back in 1990.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/4...-ryota-murata/
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Re: Gennady Golovkin’s next fight: Ryota Murata named as frontrunner for Japan bout
If Canelo is getting a breather with Fielding, and Charlo's looking at Sulecki, then a money fight with Murata for a 'belt' is a good move for GGG.
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Can’t blame a guy for getting paid but I would prefer a more talented opponent. Is what it is. If you all say it is exciting I will check it out on YouTube
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Can’t blame a guy for getting paid but I would prefer a more talented opponent. Is what it is. If you all say it is exciting I will check it out on YouTube
With Charlo looking at Sulecki what is he supposed to do? Murata gets him a good payday, probably in front of millions, also gets him a belt to bring to negotiations.
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Ron Swanson
Can’t blame a guy for getting paid but I would prefer a more talented opponent. Is what it is. If you all say it is exciting I will check it out on YouTube
With Charlo looking at Sulecki what is he supposed to do? Murata gets him a good payday, probably in front of millions, also gets him a belt to bring to negotiations.
He could show interest in a Charlo fight and see what happens. Charlo posted a picture of him and GGG a while back, further indications like the countless times he has said he wants GGG that he wants GGG. He could say he will drop the petition to avoid and take the eliminator. Maybe Charlo doesn’t really want GGG. We don’t know because he’s never had the option.
Or he can get paid. I don’t really care anymore. Sulecki just gave Jacobs fits. I’m intrigued by a Sulecki fight. We’ll have a better understanding of if Charlo is who we think he is.
Like I said, I’m not hating on GGG getting paid. Is Sulecki considered another eliminator? I don’t think the WBC will ever enforce his mandatory spot now that Canelo has the belt, I’m just curious.
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Alpha
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Ron Swanson
Can’t blame a guy for getting paid but I would prefer a more talented opponent. Is what it is. If you all say it is exciting I will check it out on YouTube
With Charlo looking at Sulecki what is he supposed to do? Murata gets him a good payday, probably in front of millions, also gets him a belt to bring to negotiations.
He could show interest in a Charlo fight and see what happens. Charlo posted a picture of him and GGG a while back, further indications like the countless times he has said he wants GGG that he wants GGG. He could say he will drop the petition to avoid and take the eliminator. Maybe Charlo doesn’t really want GGG. We don’t know because he’s never had the option.
Or he can get paid. I don’t really care anymore. Sulecki just gave Jacobs fits. I’m intrigued by a Sulecki fight. We’ll have a better understanding of if Charlo is who we think he is.
Like I said, I’m not hating on GGG getting paid. Is Sulecki considered another eliminator? I don’t think the WBC will ever enforce his mandatory spot now that Canelo has the belt, I’m just curious.
Not sure if it's an eliminator or not, just a name I heard was in the mix, along with Monroe Jr previously. Charlo doesn't seem to be showing much interest in GGG either.
Personally I think Murata is a more talented opponent than Sulecki or Monroe Jr. He also holds a belt, will get GGG double the money and will bring a huge audience.
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Alpha
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Ron Swanson
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Alpha
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
Can’t blame a guy for getting paid but I would prefer a more talented opponent. Is what it is. If you all say it is exciting I will check it out on YouTube
With Charlo looking at Sulecki what is he supposed to do? Murata gets him a good payday, probably in front of millions, also gets him a belt to bring to negotiations.
He could show interest in a Charlo fight and see what happens. Charlo posted a picture of him and GGG a while back, further indications like the countless times he has said he wants GGG that he wants GGG. He could say he will drop the petition to avoid and take the eliminator. Maybe Charlo doesn’t really want GGG. We don’t know because he’s never had the option.
Or he can get paid. I don’t really care anymore. Sulecki just gave Jacobs fits. I’m intrigued by a Sulecki fight. We’ll have a better understanding of if Charlo is who we think he is.
Like I said, I’m not hating on GGG getting paid. Is Sulecki considered another eliminator? I don’t think the WBC will ever enforce his mandatory spot now that Canelo has the belt, I’m just curious.
Not sure if it's an eliminator or not, just a name I heard was in the mix, along with Monroe Jr previously. Charlo doesn't seem to be showing much interest in GGG either.
Personally I think Murata is a more talented opponent than Sulecki or Monroe Jr. He also holds a belt, will get GGG double the money and will bring a huge audience.
It’s not a real belt.
And I haven’t seen anything as impressive from Murata as the fight Sulecki gave Jacobs.
Maybe I’m remembering it wrong but my recollection was he gave him all he could handle.
Will watch it again now because I don’t trust my memory
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Ron Swanson
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Alpha
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Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by
Alpha
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
Can’t blame a guy for getting paid but I would prefer a more talented opponent. Is what it is. If you all say it is exciting I will check it out on YouTube
With Charlo looking at Sulecki what is he supposed to do? Murata gets him a good payday, probably in front of millions, also gets him a belt to bring to negotiations.
He could show interest in a Charlo fight and see what happens. Charlo posted a picture of him and GGG a while back, further indications like the countless times he has said he wants GGG that he wants GGG. He could say he will drop the petition to avoid and take the eliminator. Maybe Charlo doesn’t really want GGG. We don’t know because he’s never had the option.
Or he can get paid. I don’t really care anymore. Sulecki just gave Jacobs fits. I’m intrigued by a Sulecki fight. We’ll have a better understanding of if Charlo is who we think he is.
Like I said, I’m not hating on GGG getting paid. Is Sulecki considered another eliminator? I don’t think the WBC will ever enforce his mandatory spot now that Canelo has the belt, I’m just curious.
Not sure if it's an eliminator or not, just a name I heard was in the mix, along with Monroe Jr previously. Charlo doesn't seem to be showing much interest in GGG either.
Personally I think Murata is a more talented opponent than Sulecki or Monroe Jr. He also holds a belt, will get GGG double the money and will bring a huge audience.
It’s not a real belt.
And I haven’t seen anything as impressive from Murata as the fight Sulecki gave Jacobs.
Maybe I’m remembering it wrong but my recollection was he gave him all he could handle.
Will watch it again now because I don’t trust my memory
No you are right that Sulecki gave Jacobs a tough fight. Doesn't mean he's better than Murata.
And the belt is real enough to bring to negotiations and put him right below Canelo's WBA belt.
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Alpha
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Ron Swanson
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Alpha
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by
Alpha
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
Can’t blame a guy for getting paid but I would prefer a more talented opponent. Is what it is. If you all say it is exciting I will check it out on YouTube
With Charlo looking at Sulecki what is he supposed to do? Murata gets him a good payday, probably in front of millions, also gets him a belt to bring to negotiations.
He could show interest in a Charlo fight and see what happens. Charlo posted a picture of him and GGG a while back, further indications like the countless times he has said he wants GGG that he wants GGG. He could say he will drop the petition to avoid and take the eliminator. Maybe Charlo doesn’t really want GGG. We don’t know because he’s never had the option.
Or he can get paid. I don’t really care anymore. Sulecki just gave Jacobs fits. I’m intrigued by a Sulecki fight. We’ll have a better understanding of if Charlo is who we think he is.
Like I said, I’m not hating on GGG getting paid. Is Sulecki considered another eliminator? I don’t think the WBC will ever enforce his mandatory spot now that Canelo has the belt, I’m just curious.
Not sure if it's an eliminator or not, just a name I heard was in the mix, along with Monroe Jr previously. Charlo doesn't seem to be showing much interest in GGG either.
Personally I think Murata is a more talented opponent than Sulecki or Monroe Jr. He also holds a belt, will get GGG double the money and will bring a huge audience.
It’s not a real belt.
And I haven’t seen anything as impressive from Murata as the fight Sulecki gave Jacobs.
Maybe I’m remembering it wrong but my recollection was he gave him all he could handle.
Will watch it again now because I don’t trust my memory
No you are right that Sulecki gave Jacobs a tough fight. Doesn't mean he's better than Murata.
And the belt is real enough to bring to negotiations and put him right below Canelo's WBA belt.
You’re right. It doesn’t prove anything in regards to Sulecki vs Murata. Just saying between the 2 the best performance I have seen is Sulecki’s loss to Jacobs. But I rate losses higher than most. I think getting in with a top guy and performing at that level shows far more than destroying lesser fighters.
Edit-getting frustrated I can’t find that fight
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Alpha
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Ron Swanson
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Alpha
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by
Alpha
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
Can’t blame a guy for getting paid but I would prefer a more talented opponent. Is what it is. If you all say it is exciting I will check it out on YouTube
With Charlo looking at Sulecki what is he supposed to do? Murata gets him a good payday, probably in front of millions, also gets him a belt to bring to negotiations.
He could show interest in a Charlo fight and see what happens. Charlo posted a picture of him and GGG a while back, further indications like the countless times he has said he wants GGG that he wants GGG. He could say he will drop the petition to avoid and take the eliminator. Maybe Charlo doesn’t really want GGG. We don’t know because he’s never had the option.
Or he can get paid. I don’t really care anymore. Sulecki just gave Jacobs fits. I’m intrigued by a Sulecki fight. We’ll have a better understanding of if Charlo is who we think he is.
Like I said, I’m not hating on GGG getting paid. Is Sulecki considered another eliminator? I don’t think the WBC will ever enforce his mandatory spot now that Canelo has the belt, I’m just curious.
Not sure if it's an eliminator or not, just a name I heard was in the mix, along with Monroe Jr previously. Charlo doesn't seem to be showing much interest in GGG either.
Personally I think Murata is a more talented opponent than Sulecki or Monroe Jr. He also holds a belt, will get GGG double the money and will bring a huge audience.
It’s not a real belt.
And I haven’t seen anything as impressive from Murata as the fight Sulecki gave Jacobs.
Maybe I’m remembering it wrong but my recollection was he gave him all he could handle.
Will watch it again now because I don’t trust my memory
No you are right that Sulecki gave Jacobs a tough fight. Doesn't mean he's better than Murata.
And the belt is real enough to bring to negotiations and put him right below Canelo's WBA belt.
You’re right. It doesn’t prove anything in regards to Sulecki vs Murata. Just saying between the 2 the best performance I have seen is Sulecki’s loss to Jacobs. But I rate losses higher than most. I think getting in with a top guy and performing at that level shows far more than destroying lesser fighters.
Edit-getting frustrated I can’t find that fight
Murata fought the solid N'Jikam twice, he should have won both. Jacob's is obviously the better of the 2 opponents but Murata is a very decent fighter.
Here we go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IHbgTu2jwQ
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Murata can fight a bit. Facing a top guy in the division sweeping trinkets into the bin and facing off in Japan, I'm actually ok with that.
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Murata is a top 5 middleweight who is totally overlooked because he's Japanese. Barring the obvious top two, Jacobs and Saunders nobody else really has any form to surpass him. Great matchup.
And the very fact they plan to hold it the Tokyo Dome says it all. Canelo is the only other middleweight who can pack a 60,000 stadium.
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Murata is a top 5 middleweight who is totally overlooked because he's Japanese. Barring the obvious top two, Jacobs and Saunders nobody else really has any form to surpass him. Great matchup.
And the very fact they plan to hold it the Tokyo Dome says it all. Canelo is the only other middleweight who can pack a 60,000 stadium.
Also if the fight is in Japan it would be on DAZN JPN. This could bring a Canelo trilogy much closer.
It would be probably be shown in the US on ESPN.
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Murata can fight a bit. Facing a top guy in the division sweeping trinkets into the bin and facing off in Japan, I'm actually ok with that.
So am I.
Murata can thank his lucky stars the "Vegas fight" came out the way it did. It was the ONLY way he was going to get to fight a top-notch middleweight willing to travel to Japan.
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Murata is a top 5 middleweight who is totally overlooked because he's Japanese. Barring the obvious top two, Jacobs and Saunders nobody else really has any form to surpass him. Great matchup.
And the very fact they plan to hold it the Tokyo Dome says it all. Canelo is the only other middleweight who can pack a 60,000 stadium.
Curious, who downgrades Murata because he’s Japanese?
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If he were a fellow from Kenya, I’d think much more highly of him.
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Murata can fight a bit. Facing a top guy in the division sweeping trinkets into the bin and facing off in Japan, I'm actually ok with that.
So am I.
Murata can thank his lucky stars the "Vegas fight" came out the way it did. It was the
ONLY way he was going to get to fight a top-notch middleweight willing to travel to Japan.
He's done well with some U.S exposure and Top Rank tv dates for a few fights now. Vegas has the 'pop' flare wise but truth be told the Brant defense will hold just a fraction of what they can pull in over in Japan. They don't play ;D. The belt and Gold medal help. Have to hand it to Golovkin or any elite who just packs a suitcase and travels too. Much better than some who tuck into their comfort zone and have challengers bused in.
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Spicoli
Murata can fight a bit. Facing a top guy in the division sweeping trinkets into the bin and facing off in Japan, I'm actually ok with that.
So am I.
Murata can thank his lucky stars the "Vegas fight" came out the way it did. It was the
ONLY way he was going to get to fight a top-notch middleweight willing to travel to Japan.
He's done well with some U.S exposure and Top Rank tv dates for a few fights now. Vegas has the 'pop' flare wise but truth be told the Brant defense will hold just a fraction of what they can pull in over in Japan. They don't play ;D. The belt and Gold medal help. Have to hand it to Golovkin or any elite who just packs a suitcase and travels too. Much better than some who tuck into their comfort zone and have challengers bused in.
In regards to that last part about fighter travelling, it can go both ways. If a guy like Inoue (he has already fought outside Japan) decided to stay at home but have top quality opponent shipped in, it would be understandable. The guy is a superstar over there. If they offered him more money to travel, he would (this is just an example).
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Murata can fight a bit. Facing a top guy in the division sweeping trinkets into the bin and facing off in Japan, I'm actually ok with that.
So am I.
Murata can thank his lucky stars the "Vegas fight" came out the way it did. It was the
ONLY way he was going to get to fight a top-notch middleweight willing to travel to Japan.
He's done well with some U.S exposure and Top Rank tv dates for a few fights now. Vegas has the 'pop' flare wise but truth be told the Brant defense will hold just a fraction of what they can pull in over in Japan. They don't play ;D. The belt and Gold medal help. Have to hand it to Golovkin or any elite who just packs a suitcase and travels too. Much better than some who tuck into their comfort zone and have challengers bused in.
In regards to that last part about fighter travelling, it can go both ways. If a guy like Inoue (he has already fought outside Japan) decided to stay at home but have top quality opponent shipped in, it would be understandable. The guy is a superstar over there. If they offered him more money to travel, he would (this is just an example).
Very true. Thats why his one and done trip over here for Superfly left new found fans wanting more when hbo couldn't pony up. But played smart and more fan base with follow up defenses back home. Bit like Wangek recently too. Guess I was directing more to guys stateside who won't leave for what is a much more Global sport than it was. If you can pull them in and dictate most terms then by all means, but opponent always matters. There's just a level of respect for someone leaving their comfort zone once in awhile.
Seems like more guys are doing it regionally now. Crawford and those Nebraska turn outs are deep!
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Stop making sense you two, it doesn’t provide enough material. The only good fighters are from wherever!
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Murata is a top 5 middleweight who is totally overlooked because he's Japanese. Barring the obvious top two, Jacobs and Saunders nobody else really has any form to surpass him. Great matchup.
And the very fact they plan to hold it the Tokyo Dome says it all. Canelo is the only other middleweight who can pack a 60,000 stadium.
Curious, who downgrades Murata because he’s Japanese?
The average western boxing media/fan.
Murata's last fight got 17 million TV viewers in Japan, it wasn't even shown in America or the UK. Most people on this forum who consider themselves "hardcore" probably think "who the funk is Murata?" when reading this thread title, his fights don't even get a mention (barring the odd few of us).
And to answer the post you deleted...
Murata's two wins over N'Dam is better form at 160 than anything Charlo, Andrade and Derevyanchenko have done. He has a WBA title and is a former Olympic Gold Medalist. He has credentials.
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Stop making sense you two, it doesn’t provide enough material. The only good fighters are from wherever!
;D great now I can't get 'Psycho Killer out of my head.
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Ron Swanson
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Fenster
Murata is a top 5 middleweight who is totally overlooked because he's Japanese. Barring the obvious top two, Jacobs and Saunders nobody else really has any form to surpass him. Great matchup.
And the very fact they plan to hold it the Tokyo Dome says it all. Canelo is the only other middleweight who can pack a 60,000 stadium.
Curious, who downgrades Murata because he’s Japanese?
The average western boxing media/fan.
Murata's last fight got 17 million TV viewers in Japan, it wasn't even shown in America or the UK. Most people on this forum who consider themselves "hardcore" probably think "who the funk is Murata?" when reading this thread title, his fights don't even get a mention (barring the odd few of us).
And to answer the post you deleted...
Murata's two wins over N'Dam is better form at 160 than anything Charlo, Andrade and Derevyanchenko have done. He has a WBA title and is a former Olympic Gold Medalist. He has credentials.
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So much for the Tokyo Dome ;D
Never count your chickens.
Ron will be happy... for once.
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GGG is probably upset at this one. Could have gone to Japan and gotten an easy win and a big payday. He probably doesn’t fight Brant
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Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Murata is a top 5 middleweight who is totally overlooked because he's Japanese. Barring the obvious top two, Jacobs and Saunders nobody else really has any form to surpass him. Great matchup.
And the very fact they plan to hold it the Tokyo Dome says it all. Canelo is the only other middleweight who can pack a 60,000 stadium.
Curious, who downgrades Murata because he’s Japanese?
The average western boxing media/fan.
Murata's last fight got 17 million TV viewers in Japan, it wasn't even shown in America or the UK. Most people on this forum who consider themselves "hardcore" probably think "who the funk is Murata?" when reading this thread title, his fights don't even get a mention (barring the odd few of us).
And to answer the post you deleted...
Murata's two wins over N'Dam is better form at 160 than anything Charlo, Andrade and Derevyanchenko have done. He has a WBA title and is a former Olympic Gold Medalist. He has credentials.
That post didn’t stand up for long
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Charlo still is available, just saying
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Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Murata is a top 5 middleweight who is totally overlooked because he's Japanese. Barring the obvious top two, Jacobs and Saunders nobody else really has any form to surpass him. Great matchup.
And the very fact they plan to hold it the Tokyo Dome says it all. Canelo is the only other middleweight who can pack a 60,000 stadium.
Curious, who downgrades Murata because he’s Japanese?
The average western boxing media/fan.
Murata's last fight got 17 million TV viewers in Japan, it wasn't even shown in America or the UK. Most people on this forum who consider themselves "hardcore" probably think "who the funk is Murata?" when reading this thread title, his fights don't even get a mention (barring the odd few of us).
And to answer the post you deleted...
Murata's two wins over N'Dam is better form at 160 than anything Charlo, Andrade and Derevyanchenko have done. He has a WBA title and is a former Olympic Gold Medalist. He has credentials.
That post didn’t stand up for long
Admittedly got it from BoxRec, but it seems one of those fights with N'Dam was a LOSS. Aside from that, just a bunch of no-names in a short, unremarkable pro career.
I'm all for giving Japanese fighters their due. Just not leaping overboard while doing it.
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Murata is a top 5 middleweight who is totally overlooked because he's Japanese. Barring the obvious top two, Jacobs and Saunders nobody else really has any form to surpass him. Great matchup.
And the very fact they plan to hold it the Tokyo Dome says it all. Canelo is the only other middleweight who can pack a 60,000 stadium.
Curious, who downgrades Murata because he’s Japanese?
The average western boxing media/fan.
Murata's last fight got 17 million TV viewers in Japan, it wasn't even shown in America or the UK. Most people on this forum who consider themselves "hardcore" probably think "who the funk is Murata?" when reading this thread title, his fights don't even get a mention (barring the odd few of us).
And to answer the post you deleted...
Murata's two wins over N'Dam is better form at 160 than anything Charlo, Andrade and Derevyanchenko have done. He has a WBA title and is a former Olympic Gold Medalist. He has credentials.
That post didn’t stand up for long
Still stands up over Charlo.
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Murata is a top 5 middleweight who is totally overlooked because he's Japanese. Barring the obvious top two, Jacobs and Saunders nobody else really has any form to surpass him. Great matchup.
And the very fact they plan to hold it the Tokyo Dome says it all. Canelo is the only other middleweight who can pack a 60,000 stadium.
Curious, who downgrades Murata because he’s Japanese?
The average western boxing media/fan.
Murata's last fight got 17 million TV viewers in Japan, it wasn't even shown in America or the UK. Most people on this forum who consider themselves "hardcore" probably think "who the funk is Murata?" when reading this thread title, his fights don't even get a mention (barring the odd few of us).
And to answer the post you deleted...
Murata's two wins over N'Dam is better form at 160 than anything Charlo, Andrade and Derevyanchenko have done. He has a WBA title and is a former Olympic Gold Medalist. He has credentials.
That post didn’t stand up for long
Admittedly got it from BoxRec, but it seems one of those fights with N'Dam was a LOSS. Aside from that, just a bunch of no-names in a short, unremarkable pro career.
I'm all for giving Japanese fighters their due. Just not leaping overboard while doing it.
Sorry to point this out but the irony can't be ignored.
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Murata is a top 5 middleweight who is totally overlooked because he's Japanese. Barring the obvious top two, Jacobs and Saunders nobody else really has any form to surpass him. Great matchup.
And the very fact they plan to hold it the Tokyo Dome says it all. Canelo is the only other middleweight who can pack a 60,000 stadium.
Curious, who downgrades Murata because he’s Japanese?
The average western boxing media/fan.
Murata's last fight got 17 million TV viewers in Japan, it wasn't even shown in America or the UK. Most people on this forum who consider themselves "hardcore" probably think "who the funk is Murata?" when reading this thread title, his fights don't even get a mention (barring the odd few of us).
And to answer the post you deleted...
Murata's two wins over N'Dam is better form at 160 than anything Charlo, Andrade and Derevyanchenko have done. He has a WBA title and is a former Olympic Gold Medalist. He has credentials.
That post didn’t stand up for long
Admittedly got it from BoxRec, but it seems one of those fights with N'Dam was a LOSS. Aside from that, just a bunch of no-names in a short, unremarkable pro career.
I'm all for giving Japanese fighters their due. Just not leaping overboard while doing it.
Sorry to point this out but the irony can't be ignored.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone..." ;) ;)
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Murata is a top 5 middleweight who is totally overlooked because he's Japanese. Barring the obvious top two, Jacobs and Saunders nobody else really has any form to surpass him. Great matchup.
And the very fact they plan to hold it the Tokyo Dome says it all. Canelo is the only other middleweight who can pack a 60,000 stadium.
Curious, who downgrades Murata because he’s Japanese?
The average western boxing media/fan.
Murata's last fight got 17 million TV viewers in Japan, it wasn't even shown in America or the UK. Most people on this forum who consider themselves "hardcore" probably think "who the funk is Murata?" when reading this thread title, his fights don't even get a mention (barring the odd few of us).
And to answer the post you deleted...
Murata's two wins over N'Dam is better form at 160 than anything Charlo, Andrade and Derevyanchenko have done. He has a WBA title and is a former Olympic Gold Medalist. He has credentials.
That post didn’t stand up for long
Still stands up over Charlo.
Charlo had a real belt at 154. Ryota will never get a real belt
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Great pace set by Brant. Murata was one dimensional and just tried to land the big right. Fight was closer than the cards tho. Clear win for Brant. 116-112 is what I had it.
Shows how underrated Braehmer's win over Brant is.
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Great pace set by Brant. Murata was one dimensional and just tried to land the big right. Fight was closer than the cards tho. Clear win for Brant. 116-112 is what I had it.
Shows how underrated Braehmer's win over Brant is.
Exactly. With hindsight Brant has one loss against a brilliant veteran at 168, we over looked him not overestimated Murata, as the boxrec boys will claim.
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Great pace set by Brant. Murata was one dimensional and just tried to land the big right. Fight was closer than the cards tho. Clear win for Brant. 116-112 is what I had it.
Shows how underrated Braehmer's win over Brant is.
Exactly. With hindsight Brant has one loss against a brilliant veteran at 168, we over looked him not overestimated Murata, as the boxrec boys will claim.
Top 5 right? That’s what you said isn’t it? Curious where you rate Brant?
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Great pace set by Brant. Murata was one dimensional and just tried to land the big right. Fight was closer than the cards tho. Clear win for Brant. 116-112 is what I had it.
Shows how underrated Braehmer's win over Brant is.
Exactly. With hindsight Brant has one loss against a brilliant veteran at 168, we over looked him not overestimated Murata, as the boxrec boys will claim.
Top 5 right? That’s what you said isn’t it? Curious where you rate Brant?
Good question. Murata was ranked no.6 with N'dam no.9 (Ring). So technically Brant has formlines over two top 10 guys and is 24-0 at 160. That's stronger form at 160 than any other middleweight outside the obvious top 4. I guess there's a case for him being no.5
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Great pace set by Brant. Murata was one dimensional and just tried to land the big right. Fight was closer than the cards tho. Clear win for Brant. 116-112 is what I had it.
Shows how underrated Braehmer's win over Brant is.
Exactly. With hindsight Brant has one loss against a brilliant veteran at 168, we over looked him not overestimated Murata, as the boxrec boys will claim.
Top 5 right? That’s what you said isn’t it? Curious where you rate Brant?
Good question. Murata was ranked no.6 with N'dam no.9 (Ring). So technically Brant has formlines over two top 10 guys and is 24-0 at 160. That's stronger form at 160 than any other middleweight outside the obvious top 4. I guess there's a case for him being no.5
I would have had Murata around #7 going in. You can see by my 160 rating in the forum voted rankings thread that he wasn't in my top 5. But definitely top 10 entering the fight.
I'd put Brant at #8 after the win. Where do you rate Brant now, or are you going to keep that secret, like your predictions.
